Deletion of Forum Posts

[Mubox]

Removed by OP as a courtesy to dual-boxing.com ...

[Mubox]

Removed by OP as a courtesy to keyclone author ...

[Mubox]

Removed by OP as a courtesy to dual-boxing.com visitors ...

[EaTCarbS]

hmm... I fail to see what the problem is. Why delete his posts?

[falsfire3401]

Look at your edited signature. The mod edited your signature to say "No unapproved advertising". Doesn't mean no advertising is allowed, it just has to be approved first. Give it some time.

It's just that this community has seen its share of ripoff software scams advertised and sold through it and that's why the admins reserve the right to first review the software being advertised before allowing it to be promoted on this site.


Give it some time. Personally I've never heard of Mubox. Doesn't mean it isn't legit, but I frequent these forums and community daily, so chances are the admins haven't heard of it either and just want to check it out first.

[Svpernova09]

A lot of your posts WERE deleted. Because they were Unapproved advertising. I was the schmuck who removed them and didn't bother to send you a message, because frankly, you didn't contact any of the admins to even ASK for permission to advertise, NOR did you even bother to read the rules about advertising. So since you blatantly disrespected the site not once, but TWICE, I didn't feel obligated to message you telling you thanks for giving me something to do this morning.

We're COMPLETELY open to new stuff, as contrary as that may seem, but we do NOT tolerate unapproved advertising from someone that has NO credibility here.


Keyclone does not own this site. I do not own this site. You need to speak with Ellay about advertising if that's what you want to do. Otherwise, lets work together on you NOT spamming your links all over our community.

kkthks.




Protip: It's not usually in your best interests to call the mods/admins of a site you're shamelessly spamming your links around names.

[Catamer]

it's funny how quickly people pushing new un-vetted software squeal... sounds kind of like my hunter team all with pigs named SPAM.
relatively speaking most of the stuff talked about here is free except for keyclone and innerspace and we are pretty sure they follow the rules.

good luck getting your free advertising on a website that owes you nothing.

[keyclone]

Is this site owned by keyclone? !#@$! 8|

if i did, do you think there would be any of the other software multibox apps posted here? i think there are 5 others now. seriously, what total bs. (and i'm supposed to stay quiet when people make statements like this... tim/evilseed/wowhead/pwnboxer/etc made these type of statements)

i've only been helping people learn to multibox for the last 2 years on this site. thanks for stopping by and trying to kick me in the nuts on your first day. you're a real peach to have a around.

[Svpernova09]

Is this site owned by keyclone? !#@$! 8|

if i did, do you think there would be any of the other software multibox apps posted here? i think there are 5 others now. seriously, what total bs. (and i'm supposed to stay quiet when people make statements like this... tim/evilseed/wowhead/pwnboxer/etc made these type of statements)

i've only been helping people learn to multibox for the last 2 years on this site. thanks for stopping by and trying to kick me in the nuts on your first day. you're a real peach to have a around.The only person we kick in the nuts around here is Gurb.

[keyclone]

The only person we kick in the nuts around here is Gurb. yea... and the smile it gives him always weirds me out :D

[Ellay]

*!!dum dadda dum!!*
(they play trumpets when I stroll in)

I was looking over your application, do you have anymore screenshots / possible video tutorial, how similar is it to the foundation of "Multibox" which has been an abandoned app that sort of functions the same way, each pc uses a client the main launches a server.

[Gurblash]

The only person we kick in the nuts around here is Gurb. yea... and the smile it gives him always weirds me out :DYou guys are assholes!

[keyclone]

:D

(link ('http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=kick+in+nuts&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=') )

[Svpernova09]

All I'm saying is...


where the hell are *my* trumpets!?

[Tonuss]

I thought the mods here were all keycloned bots. 8|

[Marathon]

Someone said trumpets :D

[Effex]

I thought the mods here were all keycloned bots. 8|

I have a sneeking suspision your all bots and Im the only RL bugger here and this is some wierd uni experiment

[Marathon]

I thought the mods here were all keycloned bots. 8|

I have a sneeking suspision your all bots and Im the only RL bugger here and this is some wierd uni experiment

Lawlz

[keyclone]

I have a sneeking suspision your all bots and Im the only RL bugger here and this is some wierd uni experimenti see. tell me about your bots and about this uni experiment.

/my-best-lisa

[Tonuss]

I wouldn't mind some strumpets whenever I show up.

[zanthor]

We are aware that Multicast in WoW won't let you type commands out to all clients, e.g. "/tar Foo", it's assumed at this point that this is an anticheat feature of WoW, as such there is NO PLAN to work around the issue. If you need helpers such as /follow etc then you should pick up a good Interface Add-On to do what you need (e.g. "FollowMe", "AssistMe" etc) and bind a series of Macros to keypresses, this approach should keep you compliant with Blizz/WoW TOS. There shouldn't be anything that stops you from typing /follow or /target in a multicaster... works in hardware, keyclone, hotkeynet, and innerspace from my personal testing.


I am also the author of Mubox, a Multiboxing application used by over 3000 people. I'm curious where you got the 3,000 users... maybe it's egotistical of me to think I'd have heard of the app by now if you did have 3k users.

[Marathon]

I wouldn't mind some strumpets whenever I show up.

I am telling you trumpets would be awesome :thumbup:

[keyclone]

could be downloads.

hehehe..... should i post that number?? # downloads == # users

LOL

[Dorffo]

I was just thinking downloads as well...

[Effex]

maybe hes got 2999 accounts and a friend ?

[zanthor]

I was just thinking downloads as well...~500 downloads on codeplex.

[keyclone]

# of downloads has nothing to do with # of users

[keyclone]

and a lot of keyloggers/trojans/zombie-bots/etc

[falsfire3401]

Okay, I was trying to be polite to Mubox on my earlier post. But after reading through everybody else's posts and seeing the general attitude this community has to a one-post user posting a link to software, I just feel like saying a little something:

"Tried to be a hero, ended up a zero".


And I'm hearing a Queen song in my head now..."...and another one bites the dust..."
(will we be hearing anything more from Mubox in this thread? :) )

[Gurblash]

(will we be hearing anything more from Mubox in this thread? :) ) Unlikely lol. They hardly ever come back to defend themselves.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

LOL. Thread had me laughing, especially the google images page. :P

[Mubox]

I want to apologize for my outburst this morning, I was mostly frustrated because, for the most part, I want to help people and I felt like I was being mistreated simply because I've authored an alternative Multiboxing tool.

I re-read my original posts, and they were terse. I think I owe an apology to everyone who wasted their time reading my responses, especially the admin who was doing his job in keeping these forums clean.

For the record, I'm not here to spam, but I simply can't help tagging my signature with a link to the software I've written. I do see that one of my posts were retained so I appreciate that each deletion was at least a reviewed deletion and not a blanket removal of everything I've posted here.

That said, I did read the rules, and I saw the section concerning no advertising, I apologize again for not contact admins/operators for persmission, but in defense I truley believed I didn't need to. When I read the no advertising rule my belief was that this was to combat people pushing things like gold and powerlevelling sites/services. Being that this is a forum/site targeting dualboxers I didn't think posting a link in my signature would be a violation.

Also, some of my other posts may have been deleted because I was directing users to the Mubxo download page as part of a response to answer questions for users. For example, I had a post in the "Symbolic Linking in XP" thread, I noted some of the benefits of symbolic linking such as improvde load times due to NT Cache Manager being able to read-cache files that multiple processes (WoW) were reading. The offending bit, I believe is I also noted along the lines that "some tools, such as Mubox's Game Isolation feature, will handle this for you", again aside from attempting to provide some useful information I also "advertised" a product. My intent wasn't to advertise, so much as make readers aware that, as stated, Mubox has a feature that will symlink/junction WoW for you (e.g. a hassle-free experience.)

Again, my apologies to everyone.

What is the process of getting "approved" for advertising? I'd like to note I don't really want to advertise, per-se, but if there is a feature within Mubox that would help a user solve a particular problem I'd like to at least mention it. For example, in the Scripts and AddOns forum there was a thread about questing both master and slaves. I recently added full quest support to Mubox, and so provided a link to download the AddOn as well as some helpful info about how to use it (e.g. key-bindings and gameplay tactics.) Again, I didn't intend to advertise, my goal was to help. Prior to reading the post I didn't provide the AddOn for download, but I figured it would be helpful to anyone who wanted the behavior it offers and so I uploaded it and submitted a forum post.

Thanks guys,
Shaun Wilson :pinch:

[Gurblash]

What is the process of getting "approved" for advertising?

I'd PM Ellay with your intents and he should get back to you with how you should proceed :)

[Svpernova09]

What is the process of getting "approved" for advertising?

I'd PM Ellay with your intents and he should get back to you with how you should proceed :)This, and go easy on your signature if it is approved, and you'll see people warm up to you. Take a lot at the other developers and see how they handle advertising, most are VERY, VERY cautious about how they handle suggesting their products in unrelated threads. The developers you want to look for would be Keyclone, Lax, and Freddie, each bringing a unique product to the community and each have proven themselves to be for the greater good of the community.

[not5150]

Welcome to the board... I'm curious, how do you like multiboxing your warlocks? I'm toying around with 5X Warlocks or 5X Hunters just for annoyance factor.

[Marathon]

What happened to trumpets :?:

[Freddie]

Hi Shaun. I looked at your website and the Mubox pages on CodePlex. I think it's obvious that you're a good guy who's trying to create a good program.

I also downloaded your source code, since you give it away free. When I get a chance I'll look at it.

From time to time somebody posts here wishing there was a good all-around open-source multiboxing program. Now you come along and you're publishing an open-source multiboxing program. Seems to me that's a reason why people here would want to welcome you.

I wish you luck.

[Mubox]

*!!dum dadda dum!!*
(they play trumpets when I stroll in)

I was looking over your application, do you have anymore screenshots / possible video tutorial, how similar is it to the foundation of "Multibox" which has been an abandoned app that sort of functions the same way, each pc uses a client the main launches a server.

I wish, I tried doing a video demo/toturial (5 times now) and I always seem to Bork it. I really suck at making vids. I have a really crappy video on my webserver, but I no longer post the link to it since people sent e-mail complaining about the codec used (xvid/divx) the lack of audio, and that it didn't really show how to use Mubox. If you want, you can view it @ http://www.mrshaunwilson.com/Mubox/mbx_amateur_vid.avi like I said, my video-making skills are "teh suck". Also, worth noting, this video shows the UI circa V1.1.0.4 just after Multicasting was ironed out, so some of the UI looks different now and there is no system tray icon yet. It's otherwise the same thing.

Since most of my time has gone into bettering the tool (and actually using it to play) I haven't spent much time trying to generate "Help" content. I get a lot of e-mail requesting these things (vids, screenshots, step-by-step instructions) and I usually write each and every user directly addressing their problems. So far it has worked well, I've only had to answer about 100 e-mails so far.

I've never used "Multibox". To be fair, I didn't even know it existed until about a week ago. I started "Multiboxing" through trial and error, I ran two instances of WoW locally and alt-tabbed, hammered spells, alt-tabbed back, hammered more spells. I felt like a master of alttab-cast-alttab-cast-alttab-cast! I would manually type in "/follow" for for the LONGEST time. Through this approach I pulled a destro lock and a holy priest up to L72.

Once I hit 72, I wanted something more. My goal is 5x locks, and a hpriest on standby. I obviously can't alttab all of them ;) (yes, i tried, miserable failure to say the least.)

I checked out wowwiki and they listed Synergy as well as a few other tools. I checked out synergy, but it still wasnt what I wanted, and I also didn't want to pay for anything (after all, I'm a programmer, why pay for what you can write yourself is my mentality) I also didn't want to use one of the "free and abandoned" tools.

So, not looking at any other options, I went with what I wanted and got to writing code. Within 2 days I had a janky app of my own, that did what I wanted it to do. I shared it with friends at home and work, and as I got feedback I made changes.

Mubox is a single application that installs itself as a tray icon, where you can launch a "Server" which acts as an ALT-TAB switcher for your clients. You can also launch one or more "Clients" from the systray ucon, each handles the process of launching your Game, multiplexing input, and so-on.

I guess in this way yes it is similar to "Multibox".

Mubox also ships with an AddOn I named "Muboxer", it is an optional component, similar to Jamba I think (again, I have no experience with Jamba, and only learned about it recently, I don't know how similar they are.)

I'll try and update the CodePlex mainpage with more screenshots, I've been trying to get feedback from people about a "step-by-step" guide I didn't have the time to put together until last night. http://www.mrshaunwilson.com/Mubox/Pages/QuickStartWarcraft.aspx ('http://www.mrshaunwilson.com/Mubox/Pages/QuickStartWarcraft.aspx')

My website isn't really conducive to promoting a product, so I have limited space to implement things like help topics. Thus, most help subjects are themed for display inside Mubox in a "Help Window". If you would like to review them without installing/running Mubox, they are all linked from this page: http://www.mrshaunwilson.com/Mubox/Pages/ ('http://www.mrshaunwilson.com/Mubox/Pages/')

So far I have a quick start, two topics covering server and client configuration, a quick and dirty FAQ and a detailed page that explains how to use the "Game Isolation" feature. I know these pages all look like dookie in a browser, like I said, these are themed for display within Mubox's Help Window because I didn't want to turn my website (a blog site) into a product promotion website. If you need more help reviewing Mubox for legitimacy don't hesistate to e-mail or PM me. The e-mail address I registered on dual-boxing.com is the same I use for collecting User Feedback on CodePlex.

Sorry for the Miniature Novel, I just wanted to provide you with as much info as possible,
Thanks Ellay!

[Prepared]

Hi Shaun. I looked at your website and the Mubox pages on CodePlex. I think it's obvious that you're a good guy who's trying to create a good program.

I also downloaded your source code, since you give it away free. When I get a chance I'll look at it.

From time to time somebody posts here wishing there was a good all-around open-source multiboxing program. Now you come along and you're publishing an open-source multiboxing program. Seems to me that's a reason why people here would want to welcome you.

I wish you luck.

/agreed

I also welcome you Shaun. I downloaded both source and the installer after searching on google for Mubox since the links were taken off of here.

In looking at some of your information, I wasn't exactly sure why you mentioned that / commands in WoW don't propagate to the clients. I'm currently using Octopus (which isn't being updated any longer) and it allows me to type in / commands from the server to all clients. Other than one screen shot on your web site, I couldn't find a lot of information and documentation about how to configure Mubox. I'm willing to give it a try, but it's late for me right now so I will probably try it out this weekend.

[Mubox]

Hi Shaun. I looked at your website and the Mubox pages on CodePlex. I think it's obvious that you're a good guy who's trying to create a good program.

I also downloaded your source code, since you give it away free. When I get a chance I'll look at it.

From time to time somebody posts here wishing there was a good all-around open-source multiboxing program. Now you come along and you're publishing an open-source multiboxing program. Seems to me that's a reason why people here would want to welcome you.

I wish you luck.

/agreed

I also welcome you Shaun. I downloaded both source and the installer after searching on google for Mubox since the links were taken off of here.

In looking at some of your information, I wasn't exactly sure why you mentioned that / commands in WoW don't propagate to the clients. I'm currently using Octopus (which isn't being updated any longer) and it allows me to type in / commands from the server to all clients. Other than one screen shot on your web site, I couldn't find a lot of information and documentation about how to configure Mubox. I'm willing to give it a try, but it's late for me right now so I will probably try it out this weekend.

Aye, in light of this info I reviewed the code and sure enough I wasn't sending the correct input arguments. While multicast was working, it appears WoW doesn't rely on keydown/keyup alone for textboxes (makes perfect sense.)

I have a pending change, but have not rebuilt/republished the fix. By this time tomorrow I'll be removing that little comment as it will no longer be true.

Also, once launched the Main Window is essentially a Help File. I didn't have a better place to submit help pages, since I use a blog engine on my personal website.

Thanks!

[Simulacra]

Hi Mubox, I'll try anything and have tried this - I'm having problems getting this to work in windows 7 - multicasting doesn't work - tried running as admin as well as xp compatibility mode. Just a thing about the help, is there anyway to stop it from being context sensitive as I like to look around and play and the damn help keeps on being intuitive and changing lol, when I try to go back to the previous page it sometimes won't so I have to relaunch.

[Mubox]

Hi Mubox, I'll try anything and have tried this - I'm having problems getting this to work in windows 7 - multicasting doesn't work - tried running as admin as well as xp compatibility mode. Just a thing about the help, is there anyway to stop it from being context sensitive as I like to look around and play and the damn help keeps on being intuitive and changing lol, when I try to go back to the previous page it sometimes won't so I have to relaunch.

Interesting. The help isn't context sensitive. It does load a corresponding Help Topic when you "Start Server" or "Create New Client", but at no other time (except for the default topic when you first start Mubox) does a help topic load "automatically".

If you see help topics loading while you're playing, something is definitely wrong.

As for Windows 7, I haven't testing on Windows 7 because I don't have any hardware with W7 installed. It should work the same, as I don't know of any feature of Windows (except for privileged user interface "locking") that would break what has been a standard model for Windows since 16-bit Windows released. For privileged UI blocks ot occur, Blizzard would have to implement them.

I assume, of course, that you have "Enable Multicast" checked either in the "Configure Multicast" dialog, or on the systray menu. If you don't enable it, it doesn't work. Also, verify that the keys you are trying to multicast are not blocked (this is done from the Configure Multicast button found on the Server UI when you ALT-TAB.)

Ah, only other thing I can think of. When you first start Mubox there are no clients, and so there is no Input Capture. Once you have started a client (or two or ten) you need to ALT-TAB to force a selection, which enables Input Capture. If you don't do this, then Multicasting/etc will not work.

Let me know if any of this resolved your problem, I'd like to work with you to implement a fix if something is broken. You're the first W7 user I've had respond.

Thanks!

[Mubox]

If you need assistance with Mubox please PM me or start a support thread in the correct forum ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Board&boardID=35'). This is not a support forum, and this thread really needs to die or be locked/deleted by an admin.

Thanks.