Ultimate IWIN button finally perfected (Elemental Shaman EM+Trink+FS+LvB)

[asonimie]

There have been a few macros posted to accomplish the EM+FS+LvB kill button in arena. Some using focus target, some not. After tinkering this week here it is. The perfect one.

#showtooltip Elemental Mastery
/assist <***>
/use 13
/cast elemental mastery
/castsequence [target=focus, exists, nodead][] reset=8 flame shock, lava burst, chain lightning

line 1: (keep track of important cooldown)
line 2:(*** = insert your assist system)
line 3: (I use platinum disks of sorcery (best clickable SP trinket for arena) instead of pyro rocket, if you use engineering pyro rockets, just replace this line with /use rockets)
line 4: this is the great part. Its both a target AND focus based macro, if your focus is set to someone, and they're alive... it will fire on the focus. If the focus is dead, OR hasn't been assigned yet (no focus), it will default to and fire on your current target. Awesome for focus gibbing your first target in arena, then using it again as a normal FS+LvB combo against new targets... without having to re-assign focus). Also works as my instant gib in WG/Bgs, where I never stop to assign focii.


UPDATE: Some new information on assigning focus, and casting hex.

Assigning a focus kill target: I still use this same system. In arena I found that "select enemy + clones assist + assign focus" to be very slow and somewhat revealing. I use NUM1 through NUM5 on my keyboard numpad to assign kill targets will Gladius(has to be running on all toons of course). NUM1 = keybound to "right click gladius enemy 1", NUM2 = enemy 2, etc. I also reserved "-" on the numpad for /clearfocus(in case my assigned focus decides to sit back while all the other potential targets run by - sometimes I like not assigning and just selecting my kill target too). This system is super quick and can be changed on the fly.

How to use Hex in arena without using focus: When blizzard added the native "arena frames" to the game, they also added the ability to macro arena enemies directly... which is frickin awesome on so many levels. I now have a single button that will cast split Hex on 4 potential enemies with no focus, and no targeting.

Shaman 1 Macro: /cast [target=arena1] hex
Shaman 2 Macro: /cast [target=arena2] hex
Shaman 3 Macro: /cast [target=arena3] hex
Shaman 4 Macro: /cast [target=arena4] hex

ANOTHER UPDATE: Wind Shear tricks: Automatic SPLIT wind shear macro.

Amazing way to make use of wind shear in 5v5... or any boxed arena.

Basically I've placed a wind shear at the beginning of all my opener spells, which are Flameshock, LB, and CL (spells cast first). Except theres a twist, each shamans wind shear targets a different arena enemy... causing 4 people to be stealth interrupted every 6 seconds. It's not a game breaker, but its great because it requires NO thought or attention by the boxer.

Example:

Shaman 1:
/cast [target=arena1,exists,nodead,harm] wind shear
/cast lightning bolt

Shaman 2:
/cast [target=arena2,exists,nodead,harm] wind shear
<assist system here>
/cast lightning bolt

etc etc...

Enjoy!

[emesis]

So, casting an instant cast spell (Flame Shock) doesn't consume the next spell instant cast effect of Elemental Mastery? I just assumed it would . . .

[asonimie]

EM, Natures swiftness etc are ONLY consumed by spells that require cast time. you can pop EM, the purge and shock all you want its not going anywhere :thumbup:

PS: I used this macro all week and its working flawlessly, or I wouldn't post it for others :P

[Kruschpakx4]

mhm i use focus for hex and purge

/cast [target=focus] Hex
/cast [target=focus] purge

every shaman has another focus target so i can purge and hex 4 people at the same time, sometimes even those retarded hunters comming closer than 20yard to me

anyway as soon as you flame shock someone, everyone who's 2k+ rated will react fast enogh, i dont use focus to nuke people (but that could also be the reason why I'm always fucking around 1800-1900 :P)

can't get higher atm because every fucking team has a fucking warlock fucking shadow furying me to the ground -> wah remove that range stun

and the 2nd problem, shaman is one of those retarded classes which can die in one global cooldown even when 4 ele shamans and one holypala are spamming heal on him

[Gares]

The assist part is the only part that kind of makes me wonder....I guess the only reason for it is for it is to keep whatever target you have and smash your focus with no target.

[asonimie]

mhm i use focus for hex and purge

/cast [target=focus] Hex
/cast [target=focus] purge

every shaman has another focus target so i can purge and hex 4 people at the same time, sometimes even those retarded hunters comming closer than 20yard to me

anyway as soon as you flame shock someone, everyone who's 2k+ rated will react fast enogh, i dont use focus to nuke people (but that could also be the reason why I'm always fucking around 1800-1900 :P)

can't get higher atm because every fucking team has a fucking warlock fucking shadow furying me to the ground -> wah remove that range stun

and the 2nd problem, shaman is one of those retarded classes which can die in one global cooldown even when 4 ele shamans and one holypala are spamming heal on himCompletely wrong.

I'm now at 2k in a highly competitive BG, and gladiator teams do NOT react fast enough to my focus kills. In fact, with a clear LOS, I have actually killed 100% of my targets with my focus macro (been running it for 6 days now). AND they are usually hunters, mages, pallies and druids, and some 34khp warriors too... 4 of which have 1 button instant immunity. What IS true however, is that without a focus based kill button, a 2k+ healer will shield and pre heal your new target before the lava leaves your hand.

How can you say that healers are TOO fast for a no target 1 second kill.... yet they are slow enough for you to target... wait .5 seconds to account for assist lag... and then fire off a 1.5 second combo..... you contradict yourself and you should take a look at your setup. And btw.. there are decently dependable ways to launch 1-3 hexes... without using focus.

[asonimie]

The assist part is the only part that kind of makes me wonder....I guess the only reason for it is for it is to keep whatever target you have and smash your focus with no target.Read what I explained in the first post.

The macro also works on regular targets when your focus is dead or unassigned. The /assist portion of the macro is so it behaves like a normal macro in these situations. Riding through wintergrasp, mounted enemy druid runs by... click and boom... dead - no focus assigned, so it went off like normal. Also, when you use the kill button on a focus target in arena.... your actual target should be elsewhere anyway... else whats the point. Your "hard" target is more or less a distraction/split dps/whatever, which makes your unknowing focus target relaxed... they tunnel vision on CC/DPSing you... and 1 second later they are dead.

I hate to be so frank... but if people don't see the ridiculous value this system has against high rated, talented teams... then gladiator is far out of reach anyway, and they won't see 2k rating in any competitive BG.

Oh and by the way, I went 10-0 against 2200+ teams tonight, including one of the top 3 teams in our battlegroup. When used patiently, and smartly, It works.... a little too well.

[Gares]

Yeah I was trying it out tonight with mixed results. I think its more the way I assign focus with my assist. I have to streamline it anyways. Never the less I did burn some fools down with it!!

Thanks for the good macro!

Back to getting my 440 res better!

[asonimie]

Glad it worked for you. I have been looking for a quicker way to assign focus as well. I wish gladius had a keybinding for "focusenemy1,2,3" etc... but nothing. 97% of matches (not ROV) start with 10 secs minimum of pillar humping... so I click a target, hit my LB or CL (1 or 2) causing them to assist, then i assigned a free keybinding to a "/focus target" macro, simple but it works. As soon as i hit assign focus my shamans target themselves again, so youre not running around with 3 shamans pointing at your "secret" focus.

I'll think of a better way but for now it works fine.

And also, in ROV, or when you get rushed in any arena, its not worth assigning a focus anyway.. usually. But just click someone and BOOM it works just fine without a focus as well.

[Gares]

Yeah ROV was a burn for me tonight (Gear and just plain old lack of experience in the arena. Haven't done it since S3 as a lock to 2k) Anyways yeah I still gotta work on it cause I wasn't sure if it was working correctly or maybe my guys were targetting the burn target. I'm not sure but I was doing it the same you have but I think I need a macro to /assist and /focus and /cleartarget all at the same time.

[asonimie]

Yeah ROV was a burn for me tonight (Gear and just plain old lack of experience in the arena. Haven't done it since S3 as a lock to 2k) Anyways yeah I still gotta work on it cause I wasn't sure if it was working correctly or maybe my guys were targetting the burn target. I'm not sure but I was doing it the same you have but I think I need a macro to /assist and /focus and /cleartarget all at the same time.Do what I did. I ungrouped my shamans, went to Nagrand and rode into the OUTDOOR arena (not the one you queue for!! lol), and had each shaman test on his buddies. Focus one hostile shaman, then target a different hostile shaman. When you hit your IWIN button, make sure to check that ALL 3 spells go to the non-selected focused shaman. Keep attacking with the IWIN button until the focus dies (sad I know, but for the cause). Once he is dead, and you are still targeting the original, unfocused, live shaman, check to see that the IWIN button spells NOW start hitting him.

If it behaves as stated above, then you copied correctly and it works fine. The /assist <***> should be whatever system you usually use to assist all your spells. Mine is FTL, some use party1, some use character name, etc.

I'm not using any /cleartarget, it shouldn't be necessary at all. If you are hard targeting a decoy... its GOOD for the enemy to see you targeting so don't /clear it. If youre taking time to assign focus... then hard targeting that focus before using the focus macro... then I'm sorry you just wasted your time and aren't fooling any healers:P

[Kruschpakx4]

Completely wrong.

I'm now at 2k in a highly competitive BG, and gladiator teams do NOT react fast enough to my focus kills. In fact, with a clear LOS, I have actually killed 100% of my targets with my focus macro (been running it for 6 days now). AND they are usually hunters, mages, pallies and druids, and some 34khp warriors too... 4 of which have 1 button instant immunity. What IS true however, is that without a focus based kill button, a 2k+ healer will shield and pre heal your new target before the lava leaves your hand.

How can you say that healers are TOO fast for a no target 1 second kill.... yet they are slow enough for you to target... wait .5 seconds to account for assist lag... and then fire off a 1.5 second combo..... you contradict yourself and you should take a look at your setup. And btw.. there are decently dependable ways to launch 1-3 hexes... without using focus.
yeah ok I'm just trying that at the moment

are you using hex in arena?

[asonimie]

I am planning on using a new hex system starting this week. I don't really like using hex in 5v5, but ignoring a core class ability bothers me too. I'm going to find a way to effectively use it.

I was running a "/cast [target=mouseover] hex" macro ONLY on my main character until this week, for 2 distinct reasons. Using mouseover targeting will not affect my clones target, whereas clicking to hex.. and 2 seconds later your clones nuke that same target would be fail. Up until now "split" targeting for hex has been a roadblock for me. Running /targetenemy, whether stacked/staggered across characters or not, and /casting hex on 4 guys WILL fail 99% of the time. The reason? (which most of you already know) - because most of the time our characters are semi-aligned and equidistant from enemies, wow client will usually return the same target to all shamans using these macros. Therefore when you cast multiple hexs, 2+ of them will land on the same target and immediately trigger full diminishing returns... ie you just wasted ~2 seconds to cast a 1-2 second hex (max).

I was brainstorming for a way to use gladius targeting for hex, and to be honest was too stupid to think of looking under the keybindings menu (until Mcgee pointed it out yesterday on some post, THANK YOU mcgee). Yesterday I ran Gladius on all 4 shams, tested some skirmishes to ensure enemies are listed in the same order across all shamans(which they are woot). Basically I am going to run a gladius target based /hex on 3-4 shamans this week and see how I like it. The redeeming quality about hex's stupidly short range... is that after you cast it, you're pretty much guaranteed that the remaining unhexed targets will be ranged 20+ yards away... which is who you should be nuking anyway.. so it has potential for that reason.

How/When to use hex? I have to do some testing this week to make sure I like it, but theorycrafting would tell me that the best strat would be, to begin the match by still killing 1 soft target off the bat before I start thinking about using hex. With 5 enemies alive there is too much dmg/cc/spell interupt pressure to be wasting 2 seconds of dps on a gimmicky CC. Plus, waiting til that first target is dead means my priest has surely dropped scream, I have EB'd them, and 95% chance their trinkets are down by that time. Most teams fighting a good quad shaman are very very scared and will trinket at the first sign of snare/fear to run for LOS.

[Gares]

ok I tried to perfect this and found that my main works fine like the macro should but none of my slaves do...They cast the flame shock and thats it....hmmm

Edit: Ok got it to work when its focus but not as no focus...hmm

[asonimie]

make sure you have that SECOND set of empty brackets in there. Check to make sure they all read:

[target=focus,exists,nodead][] .....

[Gares]

Yeah I got that..still not sure why it only works with focus and not normal targetting. I copied the macro from here exactly. The only thing I can think of is that my slaves are assisting properly. Which is very strange cause I have a general macro I use for my normal LvB that I just /click from.

Ahh I get it its because I don't have a keymap for each char for the proper targetting to occur.

[Dominian]

I havent tested this but my burst macro was a 90% kill a few weeks ago, now it seems like only 2-3 Flameshocks lands and i have no idea what is causing this. (No not enemy gorundings)

I suspect the enemies to chain silence/stun random toons to stop the burst comming from 4 chars and they are doing pretty well at it.

My macro looks like this: (not that i got a seperate burst button trough focus and one that burst my current target)

#showtooltip Elemental Mastery
/use trinketname
/cast blood fury
/cast elemental mastery
/castsequence [target=focus,harm] reset=8 flame shock, lava burst, chain lightning

Is there any weakness in this macro?

When i passed 1850 im suddenly unable to kill anything even with 130 more spelldamage (furiouse dagger and shield)

Teams seems to somehow eat my burst no matter what i do.

[Otlecs]

I can't believe I didn't think of using focus to stop the other team seeing who I was about to nuke....

/facepalm

[asonimie]

I havent tested this but my burst macro was a 90% kill a few weeks ago, now it seems like only 2-3 Flameshocks lands and i have no idea what is causing this. (No not enemy gorundings)

I suspect the enemies to chain silence/stun random toons to stop the burst comming from 4 chars and they are doing pretty well at it.

My macro looks like this: (not that i got a seperate burst button trough focus and one that burst my current target)

#showtooltip Elemental Mastery
/use trinketname
/cast blood fury
/cast elemental mastery
/castsequence [target=focus,harm] reset=8 flame shock, lava burst, chain lightning

Is there any weakness in this macro?

When i passed 1850 im suddenly unable to kill anything even with 130 more spelldamage (furiouse dagger and shield)

Teams seems to somehow eat my burst no matter what i do.The focus part of your macro is exactly the same as mine obviously. So your first kill should go off the same. However, if your match lasts 3 minutes (which believe it or not they do in Blades Edge, when your EM is ready a second time, unless you're using gladius focusing hotkeys, you wont be able to use the BOOM a second time. Also you should add "nodead" conditional to the macro so they don't sit there trying to fire on a corpse(might wanna just copy mine, its only a little different).

@not getting 4 nukes off - I competely know what you mean. Glad. teams KNOW that any of their players can survive 3xLavas... so if they are smart, which those teams are, they will sit a rogue on one of your shamans and just chain kick him. If theres a resto druid on their team, which there commonly is, he will just rotate continuous cyclones between your guys... so now you're down 2.

The answer to these comps? Perfect play on our part.. it sucks but its true. You have to chain your TS macro perfectly... meaning you get full use out of all 4 knockbacks. If you hear the rogue COS the thunderstorms, wait/TS him 1 more time, and drop his ass with the focus macro. Other than that, heavy caster teams CC will be really bad, if they're smart and you dont redrop groundings, your healer has the potential to be permenantly locked out... and I mean not 1 second free from cc (we once just sat and watched a glad team chain CC on my priest for over 90 seconds... their dmg wasnt as high... but um... omfg.) Heavy melee teams are just as bad with pummels/kicks etc. The answer.. and its a tough answer, to all these dps lockdown issues.. .is thunderstorm chain.. and wait for that perfect moment when you see your focus in front of you.. and melee are clear 5-20 ft away. If youre not sure if one of ur shams is stunned... dont chance it - trinket+boom if you have to.

[Kruschpakx4]

thanks very much asonimie :>

I have tried your focus makro in arena today and played 8-1 to 1850+. .. game on again :>

also pwnd a well ranked gladiator team 4 times in a row, just focused the shit out of them :>

[asonimie]

Glad its helping! I myself am having a bad day so far but oh well. Man.. losing cause I button mashed TS.. or made a stupid mistake and a noob team got rezs off... sure makes me wanna quit lol. ARGHHHH

[Gares]

Glad its helping! I myself am having a bad day so far but oh well. Man.. losing cause I button mashed TS.. or made a stupid mistake and a noob team got rezs off... sure makes me wanna quit lol. ARGHHHH

I do the button mashing way too often still...lol

[Kruschpakx4]

yep thunderstorm rotation is useful but everytime i nuke a melee i blow all ts ...

i need some rl intellect gems

[asonimie]

yep thunderstorm rotation is useful but everytime i nuke a melee i blow all ts ...

i need some rl intellect gemsI'm sure my priests would both agree I need them too.

[Multibocks]

For hex why dont you use the built in tab targetting mechanic. Im too lazy to look it up but basically it was like targetenemy1 so it was like you hit tab twice. That way all your shaman can get seperate targets. ie targetenemy, targetenemy1, targetenemy2, etc. Don't quote me on the exact name, but it was in the Hex thread a while ago when people were trying to come up with a use for it. I still think its a fail spell.

edit: forgot to mention the obvious: If they are pillar humping, chances are good that the tab targetting will only get 1-2 people. I believe it is LOS limited. :cursing:

[emesis]

For hex why dont you use the built in tab targetting mechanic. Im too lazy to look it up but basically it was like targetenemy1 so it was like you hit tab twice. That way all your shaman can get seperate targets. ie targetenemy, targetenemy1, targetenemy2, etc. Don't quote me on the exact name, but it was in the Hex thread a while ago when people were trying to come up with a use for it. I still think its a fail spell.

edit: forgot to mention the obvious: If they are pillar humping, chances are good that the tab targetting will only get 1-2 people. I believe it is LOS limited. :cursing:

Nope, "/targetenemy" tabs through hostile targets, while "/targetenemy1" reverse-tabs through hostile targets. There is no "/targetenemy2", etc. Don't know why they used that syntax, it is kind of confusing.

Thread here: Emergency CC macros? ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=20164')

[asonimie]

I am instituting a hex macro using Gladius based targeting. This ensures split targeting 100% of the time. I only see this as extremely useful on cleave comps, as they provide the largest number of close targets (mucho melee).

Basically first button is keybound to the following on each shaman:
Shaman#1 > Gladius Targetenemy 1
Shaman#2 > Gladius Targetenemy 2
Shaman#3 > Gladius Targetenemy 3
Shaman#4 > Gladius Targetenemy 4

Keypress 2 : /cast hex (basically)

You're never going to get 4 perfect hexs off... but at least with this you aren't overlapping and causing instant DRs.

[Kruschpakx4]

Basically first button is keybound to the following on each shaman:
Shaman#1 > Gladius Targetenemy 1
Shaman#2 > Gladius Targetenemy 2
Shaman#3 > Gladius Targetenemy 3
Shaman#4 > Gladius Targetenemy 4

Keypress 2 : /cast hex (basically)


mhm that doesn't work :/

/cast [target=Gladius Targetenemy 1] Hex ?

[asonimie]

I wasn't implying it was a macro command, that was just shorthand for explaining what I intended.

The first keypress is bound in default keybindings to gladius commands (not in a macro). The second press casts hex.. and thats where the macro goes.

[Multibocks]

So have you tried it out yet? Any good results or still a crap spell?

[heyaz]

I used random targeting, but managed to get 2-3 hexes off on close melee targets. I never really got any results off of it, 1 second later it's dispelled or trinketed and then I get cleaved to death in 7 seconds. Peoples' reaction time in this season is mind blowing. I'm seeing warriors and druids intercept in mid air when they get thunderstormed, hunters pop deterrance instantly when flame shock lands, and shaman dropping a grounding totem during lava burst travel time after an instant cast.

I could be wrong, but given this jedi-like reaction time on everyone over a 1000 rating, I get the feeling hex isn't going to slow much down. Must also consider:
1. Rogues, DK's, and Feral Druids are mostly likely going to be immune to it
2. Ret paladins can bubble out of it
3. If you are running with a paladin you lack an aoe cc which would make them blow trinkets - in which case they have a fresh trinket to get out of your hex, then it's on CD for 45 sec.
4. Healers are usually not within 20 yards, and they'll dispell it

[Dominian]

I used random targeting, but managed to get 2-3 hexes off on close melee targets. I never really got any results off of it, 1 second later it's dispelled or trinketed and then I get cleaved to death in 7 seconds. Peoples' reaction time in this season is mind blowing. I'm seeing warriors and druids intercept in mid air when they get thunderstormed, hunters pop deterrance instantly when flame shock lands, and shaman dropping a grounding totem during lava burst travel time after an instant cast.

I could be wrong, but given this jedi-like reaction time on everyone over a 1000 rating, I get the feeling hex isn't going to slow much down. Must also consider:
1. Rogues, DK's, and Feral Druids are mostly likely going to be immune to it
2. Ret paladins can bubble out of it
3. If you are running with a paladin you lack an aoe cc which would make them blow trinkets - in which case they have a fresh trinket to get out of your hex, then it's on CD for 45 sec.
4. Healers are usually not within 20 yards, and they'll dispell it

1. Feral druids will be immune, however rogues and dks needs to use cooldown to be immune.
2. Then he has to use didive shield without much reson and reduce his own damage with 50% for 10 seconds wich is GREAT.
3. Getting someone stuck in a full hammer of justice while you can dps is also great, but its best with a priest who forced them to trinket fear.
4. It cant be dispelled, only decursed.. 9/10 teams wont decurse it, even then a druid,resto shaman have to stop healing (if you flameshock them first they have to los and cant decurse) if its a mage he lose 1 or maybe 2 global cooldowns on decursing.

[Eloxy]

Started using this macro and its PWN thx alot.

Do anybody use this macro combined with rocket gloves? i tried to implement it myslef but it fekked up the cast sequence.

[asonimie]

Glad its working for you Eloxy!!

With rocket launcher keep in mind - you cant use any clickable trinkets with the rocket - they trigger each others CD

[Eloxy]

Hmm yeah item cd was killing what i tried.
I have binded the rockets to another button now (still based on the nuke macro) so it will shoot my target or fucus if i have one.

Leveled all my proffs up and have JC and engineering on all slaves now, pluss i switched to FTL setup going.
Gonna do some serious arena next season, so im fine tuning everything. Hoping for Fok nerf though ;)

[asonimie]

Don't worry about the FOK nerf, its final and concrete(interrupt portion anyway, they may tune the dmg nerf but who cares). It will be live in 2 weeks for the start of season 7. Time to put my ass kickin boots on. As requested, I plan on releasing videos of footage this coming season as well, so hopefully that will help newer arena boxers.

[Ualaa]

A lot of things like Hex from a shammy or Cheap Shot/Kidney Shot from a rogue... force a trinket use or bubble etc. There are limited resources. If the opponent uses one of theirs, they have less resources for later in the match, and are more vulnerable for a time.

So they have to balance between eating a polymorph/hex, if they and their team will survive, or blowing the cooldown to get out now. If the players automatically blow their cooldowns, then they're dead against a good team because there will be no way out of the next predicament.

Sucks when they're a one-trick pony, which trinkets out of whatever and continues to run at you for AoE spam like Bladeflurry etc.

[Multibocks]

Does this button still work? Seriously weird, but I have a cast time for LvB....

[asonimie]

UPDATE: Some new information on assigning focus, and casting hex.

Assigning a focus kill target: Still use this system. In arena I found that "select enemy + clones assist + assign focus" to be very slow and somewhat revealing. I use NUM1 through NUM5 on my keyboard numpad to assign kill targets will Gladius(has to be running on all toons of course). NUM1 = keybound to "right click gladius enemy 1", NUM2 = enemy 2, etc. I also reserved "-" on the numpad for /clearfocus(in case my assigned focus decides to sit back while all the other potential targets run by - sometimes I like not assigning and just selecting my kill target too). This system is super quick and can be changed on the fly.

How to use Hex in arena without using focus: When blizzard added the native "arena frames" to the game, they also added the ability to macro arena enemies directly... which is frickin awesome on so many levels. I now have a single button that will cast split Hex on 4 potential enemies with no focus, and no targeting.

Shaman 1 Macro: /cast [target=arena1] hex
Shaman 2 Macro: /cast [target=arena2] hex
etc.

Enjoy! (also added to original post)

[shaeman]

I use focus for my follow, and I've been looking for a way to have the iwin button not based on focus.

I could modify the hex to be an iwin button - it would be 5 macros on 4 characters so not ideal....
So macro 1 would use arena1 on all shamans, macro 2 would use arena 2 on all shamans.....
I suppose I could use modifiers to reduce the number of macros.

I may have to just rebuild my whole setup - but thanks for posting this, really useful to know.

[Ellay]

Damn, I learned a lot from this too thanks for the bump :)

[Ellay]

I feel like I'm an old guy I refuse to change my ways and make a FTL setup, haha. I just don't have the keybinds to make it happen.

[Fat Tire]

Thanks Asonimie!!!

Great stuff

[asonimie]

I feel like I'm an old guy I refuse to change my ways and make a FTL setup, haha. I just don't have the keybinds to make it happen.

Software key translations FTW.

[Gares]

Wow that one button Hex macro is the bomb, I think I'm going to try it out when I get home from vacation tomorrow.

[Meathead]

with the hexing whats the best time to do it right before you are about to nuke someone?

[asonimie]

To be honest I haven't been using the hex setup yet, although I do use the [target=arena1] for other purposes.

I plan on using the hex system soon, and have been thinking about it. I believe you need to relieve some pressure before stopping to hex, so 1 target needs to die before you waste time hexing. The best situation might be for melee cleave or anyone else who is hard to target.... drop that first noob and then hex to relieve some healing pressure on your healer.

[asonimie]

UPDATED AGAIN - MORE OF MY SECRETS!!

You guys are gonna absolutely love this one. I have been using it since 3.2 came out... and it works flawlessly.

Wind Shear huh? could be useful...

My offensive casting in arena consists mostly of the following kill combos(not in any order): EM+FS+LvB, FS+LvB, LB+CL+FrS, Nova+CL+TSx4. These are all capable of killing any target (except destros of course, who require about 60k damage to kill). So the first spell cast is either FlameShock, LB, or CL.. pretty simple.

Soooo, everyone was talking about how to best use wind shear in boxed 5v5... and I believe I've found it lol.

At the beginning of my shamans LB, CL, and Flameshock (both the EM kill button... and normal FS+LvB - I have 2), there is a Wind Shear macro'd to go off first.... except...... its split across 4 targets with the above mentioned [target=arena1] targeting system.

In short - every 6 seconds, 4 different toons on the enemy team get spell interrupted... and it requires absolutely zero thought or attention on my part lol.

I can't tell you how funny it is against caster teams when they rush, and 3-4 people get hit with a little green animation... interrupted... and start backpedaling wondering what the hell just hit them, meanwhile I've launched 8-12 spells at them already.

EXAMPLE

Shaman 1:
/cast [target=arena1,exists,nodead,harm] wind shear
/cast lightning bolt

Shaman 2:
/cast [target=arena2,exists,nodead,harm] wind shear
<assist system here>
/cast lightning bolt

etc etc.

(Updated on initial post)


Sticky Worthy yet?? :P Maybe call it arena macro magic.

[Ellay]

Now I was looking at the Gladius keys to enter on here, is this the same one? Or do these need to be each shaman's focus target?
Either way it sounds badass.

I think answering my own question looking previously, these are default in the game? Blahh simple answer I know just wondering what it is.

[asonimie]

Neither gladius nor focus.

Ya they are "default" commands, altho I suspect you may need to leave blizz arena frames enabled for them to work... maybe not but I'm guessing the "target=arena1" calls upon blizz arena frames... havent tried turning them off I should do that.

They basically are default macro commands that fit in the "target variable" position of the macro. Use them the same as any other /target XXX or [target=XXX] type call. Options are: arena1, arena2, arena3, arena4, arena5.

Who knows, maybe theres some use for /assist arena1 that I haven't thought of yet. Theres prolly some other way to use this, I'll think of it :P

[thedreameater]

line 2:(*** = insert your assist system)


What does this mean? I've tried /assist focus, even /assist name - doesn't work.

[Reglar]

If you want to use a focus based assist system, I believe the command is:

/assist [target=focus]

If you just want to assist a person, they must be in your party or raid, and its:

/assist toonname

If you are using a Follow The Leader or Focus-less/Target-less system, you'd insert the assist line there.

[Reglar]

Neither gladius nor focus.

Ya they are "default" commands, altho I suspect you may need to leave blizz arena frames enabled for them to work... maybe not but I'm guessing the "target=arena1" calls upon blizz arena frames... havent tried turning them off I should do that.

They basically are default macro commands that fit in the "target variable" position of the macro. Use them the same as any other /target XXX or [target=XXX] type call. Options are: arena1, arena2, arena3, arena4, arena5.

Who knows, maybe theres some use for /assist arena1 that I haven't thought of yet. Theres prolly some other way to use this, I'll think of it :P

Just a note that arena1..arena5 are valid unitids that don't require using Blizz's UI.

If you're curious, all the unitids are documented at: http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitId

[asonimie]

Just a note that arena1..arena5 are valid unitids that don't require using Blizz's UI.

If you're curious, all the unitids are documented at: http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitId

I suspected as much. Turned off my blizz frames this week. Thanks for the info!

[heyaz]

UPDATED AGAIN - MORE OF MY SECRETS!!

You guys are gonna absolutely love this one. I have been using it since 3.2 came out... and it works flawlessly.

Wind Shear huh? could be useful...

My offensive casting in arena consists mostly of the following kill combos(not in any order): EM+FS+LvB, FS+LvB, LB+CL+FrS, Nova+CL+TSx4. These are all capable of killing any target (except destros of course, who require about 60k damage to kill). So the first spell cast is either FlameShock, LB, or CL.. pretty simple.

Soooo, everyone was talking about how to best use wind shear in boxed 5v5... and I believe I've found it lol.

At the beginning of my shamans LB, CL, and Flameshock (both the EM kill button... and normal FS+LvB - I have 2), there is a Wind Shear macro'd to go off first.... except...... its split across 4 targets with the above mentioned [target=arena1] targeting system.

In short - every 6 seconds, 4 different toons on the enemy team get spell interrupted... and it requires absolutely zero thought or attention on my part lol.

I can't tell you how funny it is against caster teams when they rush, and 3-4 people get hit with a little green animation... interrupted... and start backpedaling wondering what the hell just hit them, meanwhile I've launched 8-12 spells at them already.

EXAMPLE

Shaman 1:
/cast [target=arena1,exists,nodead,harm] wind shear
/cast lightning bolt

Shaman 2:
/cast [target=arena2,exists,nodead,harm] wind shear
<assist system here>
/cast lightning bolt

etc etc.

(Updated on initial post)


Sticky Worthy yet?? :P Maybe call it arena macro magic.

Will it get stuck on the first cast if wind shear is on cooldown?

[Eloxy]

Will it get stuck on the first cast if wind shear is on cooldown?

does it?
If it doesent im gonna sooo use this. But how is the mana efficency on it? and how does it work if the mob is out of range of the shock but not the LB?

[asonimie]

does it?
If it doesent im gonna sooo use this. But how is the mana efficency on it? and how does it work if the mob is out of range of the shock but not the LB?


It doesn't get stuck by anything (out of range, on cooldown, facing wrong way etc). I've been using it for about a month now and I've never had a LB or CL stall. Probably cause it's two different /cast calls... instead of a castsequence. I was worried about mana efficiency in the beginning too... and to be honest the difference isn't very noticable. Season6 I would drink once in a while... feels about the same now. Its hax :)

[asonimie]

What does this mean? I've tried /assist focus, even /assist name - doesn't work.

It means that's where your assist system goes. When focus for the macro hasn't been declared yet, it will rely on good old /assist system targeting to pick a target - just like any other multiboxed spellcast..
Different types of Follow/Assist control setups, and corresponding macro example:

Group leader setup (/assist party1),
Specific toon leader setup (/assist Frank),
FTL system (/assist [mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift] Toon1; [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift] Toon2; [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt] Toon3)
Focus Leader System: (/assist focus)

If you are using a focus leader setup... then half this thread will be unusable to you(focus needs to be available for targeting), and for arena purposes I would recommend going group leader or specific toon leader before using focus leader. If you are confused what I'm talking about, then this thread is honestly over your head and you need to read more on introductory multiboxing setup.

Hope this helps.

[Gares]

Anyone know if I could add the windshear part if I use a /cast sequence macro for my main nuke with the /click method?

IE:
cast [target=arena1,exists,nodead,harm] wind shear
/castsequence flame shock reset=8 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


???

My other ones are fine because its a normal /cast macro but for my main nuke I use the /click method from the PVE threads in PVP still

[asonimie]

I would think the wind shear could go just about anywhere, as it's free to use whenever since it is off the GCD.

I'm not terribly familiar with how you're using /click, but maybe this will help.
You can add target specifications to a /castsequence just like you can add to a /cast macro.

example(my clones entire EM+LvB macro):

#showtooltip elemental mastery
/assist [mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift] Taj; [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift] Maj; [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt] Haj
/cast [target=focus,exists,nodead][] furious gladiator's mail gauntlets
/cast [target=arena3] wind shear
/cast elemental mastery
/castsequence [target=focus,exists,nodead][] reset=8 flame shock,lava burst,chain lightning

as you can see, you can add targeting information to a /castsequence as well... hopefully that will help as well.

[Eloxy]

WORKING!

I implemented both the hex and windshear macros this morning and i must say i am most pleased :) U imideatly can feel the pressure on you vs a caster team is realy reduced =)

And half of the time those heals ure thinking "crap... i got him to 10% and now hes getting healed" the heals dont come off due the the 6 sec interupt ;)

I can feel the mana is slightly faster gone, but i finish the games faster to so its gg ;)
I recomend this to anyone doing arenas!

thx asonimie!

(ps. sticky this)

[remanz]

i am having some mana issues implementing this method as a couple games I have 3 shamans + 1 healer left where my shamans are just out of mana. The other team has 1 dps + 1 healer left. and they just pick me apart 1 by 1. kinda frustrating to lose it that way.

I wonder if it is worth taking the mana regen talent in elemental tree over lightning overload as i didn't get many LB out anyway.

[asonimie]

With max'd out pvp gear and water shield up the whole match, I do really well on mana. If this is a strain on your gear then remove it until your gear improves. It works really well for me in max gear tho, so I would eventually recommend this to everyone.

[remanz]

hmm, let me try water shield. was using lightning shield lol. what was i thinking. I guess cleave teams really got to my head. The wind sheer macro is great. I just couldn't keep up with the mana.

[Clovis]

I've got this little guy bound to everything now, I can't wait to try some 5s games with it :) It should make wizard cleave a hell of a lot easier.

[modhackmaster]

line 1: (keep track of important cooldown)
line 2:(*** = insert your assist system)
line 3: (I use platinum disks of sorcery (best clickable SP trinket for arena) instead of pyro rocket, if you use engineering pyro rockets, just replace this line with /use rockets)
line 4: this is the great part. Its both a target AND focus based macro, if your focus is set to someone, and they're alive... it will fire on the focus. If the focus is dead, OR hasn't been assigned yet (no focus), it will default to and fire on your current target. Awesome for focus gibbing your first target in arena, then using it again as a normal FS+LvB combo against new targets... without having to re-assign focus). Also works as my instant gib in WG/Bgs, where I never stop to assign focii.


Here is the dilemma for me:
The pyro rocked will hit instantly to the Main's target, or, shoot random enemy if there is NO target assigned...the end result is: it won't hit the "focus" target that I want. In order to make it hit the "focus" target, Line 3 need to be changed to something like "/use [@focus] 10". However, it seems still not working for me 100%. Certainly, I could put "/tar areanX"before using the rocket, but it defeats the main purpose of stealth focus target.
Wondering anyone has a work around?

Update:

Never mind: I think I have found the answer from asonimie:

#showtooltip elemental mastery
/assist [mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift] Taj; [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift] Maj; [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt] Haj
/cast [target=focus,exists,nodead][] furious gladiator's mail gauntlets
/cast [target=arena3] wind shear
/cast elemental mastery
/castsequence [target=focus,exists,nodead][] reset=8 flame shock,lava burst,chain lightning

Need to learn reading full threads first.. my bad. :P