Hey Stoat

[Svpernova09]

Wasn't trying to "crap on workable solutions" man, Just explaining why we thought no dedicated healer was a bad idea, and why survivability that a dedicated healer gives your group > brute forcing and having to STOP DPS to heal. So sorry if you thought we were crapping on what works for you, hell, if it works for you who is anyone else to tell you any different? We're just talking shit between boxers. It's all good.


and if you think d-b is shit why are you even here?

[Gurblash]

/hikes up his skirt and defecates all over the topic.

[stoat]

Someone has to keep the misinformation in check, I'd hate to have people not chaining RAF based on your wrong advice.

And I meant the IRC version was crap, still plenty of good stuff here.

[Svpernova09]

But we weren't talking about RAF? If we were, I'm seriously hammered for this time of day.

[Gurblash]

But we weren't talking about RAF? If we were, I'm seriously hammered for this time of day.Its never to early to start.

[stoat]

Shrug, that's why I stuck around til now, to keep any further errors from being propagated down the line.



[12:45:35] (@Svpernova) You're booster can't be associated via RAF
[12:45:37] (+stoat) recruit one with the main then make a chain from there
[12:45:43] (@Svpernova) No
[12:45:47] (+stoat) yes it can, they just need to be rafed to each other
[12:45:49] (@Svpernova) Then that 1 won't get RAF
[12:45:52] (+ronghail_) ok so basically you can't get a 5 team with boosting
[12:45:57] (+stoat) negative, as like as it's chained it's fine
[12:46:13] (+stoat) it doesn't preclude you from getting the xp, it just has to be referred down the line
[12:46:17] (@Svpernova) If your booster account referes one, that account won't get raf.
[12:46:25] (+stoat) you are misinformed




[12:49:09] (@Gurblash) ... boosting with unlinked will give 300% xp...
[12:49:15] (+Vecter_Work) ill do that when I get home...both boosters are 74
[12:49:15] (@Gurblash) boosting with linked no bonus
[12:49:19] (@Svpernova) ^^
[12:49:21] (@Svpernova) What gurb said
[12:49:24] (@Svpernova) Thats hwo mine worked.
[12:49:30] (@Gurblash) thats how it STILL works
[12:49:38] (@Gurblash) nothings changed


Quality information from both posters in this thread.

[Svpernova09]

Wow, way to pull out old logs? But I wasn't even talking about that. I was talking about TODAY. So put on your big boy pants and come on back whenever you're ready to realize not everyone agrees with you (and thats perfectly fine)



Edit: The logs you're posting are from 5/13. lol.

[Tonyx]

To me Gurblash and Svpernova are right.

You know linked account won't get triple xp if they are not within 4 levels of each other? That's why you need an unlinked booster (who is likely 80).

[stoat]

To me Gurblash and Svpernova are right.

You know linked account won't get triple xp if they are not within 4 levels of each other? That's why you need an unlinked booster (who is likely 80).

Worked fine for me, have you personally verified that you can't? I have verified that you can.
edit: the issue is that the low levels need to be linked to eachother, it doesn't matter if the booster happens to also be linked to one if they are also linked to one of the other low levels.

I'll be back in awhile, it will take me some time to gather the toys I have flung out of the pram.

[Tonyx]

I did verified it, but honestly I have to say it was back in October. Maybe it has been changed?

So you have 5 toon chain linked, with one being 80 and the other under lvl 60, and the lowbies get triple xp? That's good to know. May I ask for a screenshot of it?

[Kayley]

To me Gurblash and Svpernova are right.

You know linked account won't get triple xp if they are not within 4 levels of each other? That's why you need an unlinked booster (who is likely 80).

Worked fine for me, have you personally verified that you can't? I have verified that you can.


I have done the same.

[Svpernova09]

Bottom line, No hard feelings. I really, really like what we've got going in IRC and I don't wanna turn people away, but it's ok to argue and disagree.

[Kayley]

Wanna post why you think a dedicated healer is a good idea? For normals/heroics you'd be suprised at how often they do nothing. :/
In a world all about min/maxing :P

[Darelik]

Wanna post why you think a dedicated healer is a good idea? For normals/heroics you'd be suprised at how often they do nothing. :/
In a world all about min/maxing :Paye. 4x LHW > 1xLHW|HW|CL. jmtc :)

[Svpernova09]

Wanna post why you think a dedicated healer is a good idea? For normals/heroics you'd be suprised at how often they do nothing. :/
In a world all about min/maxing :PI have a well geared tank, and my healer was FAR from doing nothing in h-UK.


PS gurb is mean.

PSS:


[09:44] <+keyclone_> now, officially, the main stream media is the state run media ala the USSR
[09:47] <@Gurblash> sounds like KC injected propaganda imo.
[09:48] <@Svpernova> in soviet russia, KEYCLONE MULTIBOXES YOU
[09:48] *** keyclone_ has left #dual-boxing.com
[09:48] <@Gurblash> \o/
[09:48] <@Svpernova> I WIN!
[09:48] <@Gurblash> BOYA

[Gurblash]

aye. 4x LHW > 1xLHW|HW|CL. jmtc :)On a heroic fight I'd like to know how often you have to stop DPS to heal... what every 5 seconds or so? I don't really have to crunch the numbers to realize how not efficient this is. If you have 3 dedicated dps that don't stop the entire fight, and have 1 dedicated healer that is able to focus on just healing... If the two teams setups were racing on a boss, I'd put all my money on the 'trinity' team.

[Jubber]

Assuming you are daisy chaining your account. You can get raf xp on your lowbies with a linked 80. So for example if you have A(80)->B->C, A recruited B who recruited C. If you only ever run A and B then no you will not get raf exp if B is more than 4 levels lower. If you include C in the party. B still has a valid link with C so it will still get the 3x exp. I think this is what Stoat was getting at which would be correct regarding the RAF situation.

A dedicated healer is nice but not necessary for heroics if you are running 4 shamans. I have my shamans alternate LHW on my tank and for heavy oh sh*t moments I have a macro for 2 of my shamans to stop what hey are doing and both do a LHW which is usually more then enough to get my tank out of harms way, leaving room for the alternating LHWs to continue to bring my tank back up to full health.

I only started using this method cuz I felt the healer was only fully utilized when I was undergeared. But once you get to a point where your healer is semi geared he tends to do very little unless it was AOE heavy fights. so I figured it would be better to utilize her to dps and throw the tank alternating heals. I started off with alot of overhealing and getting close to ooming on my shamans but have since found a nice rotation that works so far.

[Tonyx]

I have a dedicated healer, but also a "healer dps" key that I spam whenever the fight is easy, so I get the best of both worlds.

[Gurblash]

I have a dedicated healer, but also a "healer dps" key that I spam whenever the fight is easy, so I get the best of both worlds. Winner. No one ever said the dedicated healer can't dps when allowed.

[Marathon]

You guys are funny. Everytime i come back to the site someone else has posted on this thread. Its like almost every 5 minutes someone has posted something new.

[Gurblash]

its static irc :D

[Svpernova09]

its static irc :Dmultiplayer notepad

[Kayley]

aye. 4x LHW > 1xLHW|HW|CL. jmtc :)On a heroic fight I'd like to know how often you have to stop DPS to heal... what every 5 seconds or so? I don't really have to crunch the numbers to realize how not efficient this is. If you have 3 dedicated dps that don't stop the entire fight, and have 1 dedicated healer that is able to focus on just healing... If the two teams setups were racing on a boss, I'd put all my money on the 'trinity' team.

I have them all elemental, one will heal if needed (like the healer dps button, only I hit harder :P).

Quickly opened some of my first boss kills in H-UK (since Supernova mentioned H-UK) 23k tank. Nothing special. Shamans are at 1300sp unbuffed (around 2k buffed etc).
(x4 shamans 1 paladin)

First Boss. Prince Keleseth - No heroism. I healed 6 times with one shaman. 1 heal with two shamans. (I messed up :love: ) - 64 second fight.
Second Bosses. Skarvold and w/e :P - No heroism. I healed 7 times with 1 shaman. (groundings eat most of the damage) - 68 second fight.
Third boss. Ingvar - Heroism (finally) - healed 8 times with 1 shaman. 1 heal with two shamans. - 131 second fight.

That is why I say 'eh?' in regards to a dedicated healer. From my PoV it really isn't needed and my healer used to sit there doing very little. I film most of my stuff and run my combat through 'parsing websites' so I can see what is happening.

Doubt you guys really care but meh.

p.s two and a half men came on and I was lured away from my keyboard ;(

[Jubber]

I have them all elemental, one will heal if needed (like the healer dps button, only I hit harder :P).




This. lol. only I rotate my heals amongst my shaman.

[MiRai]

its static irc :Dmultiplayer notepadHahaha I just read through those quotes yesterday :)