To Theradin - Please share your 10 box Flame Levathan Strat

[Deekhay]

Just saw your video... Awesome! Gratz to you mate!
Would you mind to give details about that fight? It seems so clumsy when you do it in normal 10m raids and it seemed sooo easy on your 10 boxing.

Thank you so much!

[kadaan]

It looks like he split the siege engines and demolishers up with one of each in opposing corners. 66% chance at each switch to target the opposite corner. I couldn't see the choppers in the video, but you'd probably want them near the middle to drop the tar to slow down FL. I'm curious what his setup is like to get targetting to work. You'd obviously need all 10 windows visible to see if your shots are hitting the boss and quickly adjust when you see you're missing.

The main reason it feels clumsy when you do it is most people have no idea what they're supposed to do. People don't shoot down pyrite, demo's don't roll their stacks, choppers try to dps with sonic horn, etc. You can 4man him with all the towers down pretty easily with just the 2 demolishers.

[Dzonatan]

huh?! so someone dares to do Ulduar solo now?! thats crazy!but then agian... I'm looking foward to it xD

[Theradin]

Just saw your video... Awesome! Gratz to you mate!
Would you mind to give details about that fight? It seems so clumsy when you do it in normal 10m raids and it seemed sooo easy on your 10 boxing.

Thank you so much!Sure, I don't mind sharing my strategy, but I should caution that this is in no way optimal for a normal 10 man fight.

In a nutshell, for my strategy there are three important points on the map:

Northwestern Corner
Southeastern Corner
Center

Everybody starts in the southeastern corner as Flame Leviathan can't quite reach the vehicles in that corner on normal mode. The vehicle Flame Leviathan first targets will then tuck into this corner as far as possible. Meanwhile the rest of the group moves into the middle of the area.

From here on it's pretty straightforward. When Flame Leviathan targets somebody, that person retreats into the corner farthest from Flame Leviathan and the person previously targetted returns to the middle. As a result, Flame Leviathan runs back and forth between the northwestern and southeastern corners.

You can kite her like this until she reaches around 15 stacks of her movement buff. At this point she'll be able to cover the entire diagonal that you'll be running back and forth along and the kiting will break down. If you start my movie at about 2:15, you can watch as this happens to me, killing off one of my vehicles. ( It was an error on my part, I meant to have somebody on top of Flame Leviathan DPSing turrets a bit earlier, but a few things conspired against me. )

One important thing -- if you do happen to stun Flame Leviathan, you'll want everybody to return to the middle, ready to run to the appropriate corner.

I hope that answers your question adequately. If you have any question about a particular detail, feel free to ask away!

[Theradin]

I'm curious what his setup is like to get targetting to work. You'd obviously need all 10 windows visible to see if your shots are hitting the boss and quickly adjust when you see you're missing.
My setup works on two monitors, a 28" and a 26". I've attached a screenshot of the way I have accounts arranged on the 28". Though I have a pair of 22" monitors I could also add to this mix, I prefer smaller windows that allow me to keep everything in my periphery. When targeting using this setup, you guessed it - looking at who's missing and then adjusting for it. I mostly focus on the two siege engines and count on the demolishers to hit by virtue of being lined up along the diagonal I'm using to kite FL. The exception to this is when I'm firing pyrite or if I have some free time.

[Deekhay]

Thank you so much Theradin. Certainly worth trying. I've bookmarked your youtube page. Please keep us posted with your progress and tactics.

Cheers,
Deekhay

[Niley]

might be a bit easier this way.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=58624.msg964510;topicseen#new

[Theradin]

might be a bit easier this way.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=58624.msg964510;topicseen#newThat' s quite impressive. I'll have to try it once I get a higher tier of gear.