Fried...

[Judge001]

Good afternoon,

I screwed up...

I have a q6600 and have been reading a lot about how people have been successfully overclocking them...Well, I noticed my idle temps were too high based on those of others and so I took apart everything to check overflow, that the HS was properly seated, etc. Well, once I confirmed all that (thought I did) I decided to test it out and check out the bios. Once in the bios the heat warning sound started up. I had a chance to see that it read 89 C before shutting everything down and once again checking that the heat sink was sitting properly. Now, it won't post at all and I get no error sounds. The only thing I can think is that I fried the cpu.

The HS fan will turn for nearly a second before the system shuts down. I can't get it to do anything other than that after having removed various components, everything, etc.

I figure many of you know a lot more than me about this stuff? What do you think? Is it fried? Do I need to order another q6600 through Newegg and be done with it? Any chance I screwed up my motherboard as well? I have a GA P35-DS3L motherboard and I would hate to have to replace both.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

[Sajuuk]

Did you reapply thermal paste before reseating your HSF?

[Judge001]

Yes, I cleaned the old off as instructed at Arctic Silver then applied new paste.

[Starbuck_Jones]

Check your mb documentation on how to clear the NVRAM with jumpers and reseat the cpu again. If it still wont fire up, its all tost.

[Judge001]

I used the jumper to clear the cmos. I also took out the battery and followed the steps of some of the guides available online. No luck. When you say it's all toast, do you have a reason to believe the motherboard might be bad as well?

One more observation... If the cpu is out, the fans will run and just keep running. If the cpu is in, the system attempts to get started for nearly a second, and then turns off. I hope it's just the cpu and not the motherboard as well....don't really want to spend the cash right now.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Some boards will shut down if the cpu fan speed is not enough rpms. Use a smaller size fan.

But if have cleared the cmos, and you get no beep codes well ...... time to swap out parts.

I would think if one frys it saves the other from frying ... so its not likely that you have both damaged.

I never overclock, if you want a faster processor then buy one.

[zhenyalix]

I never overclock, if you want a faster processor then buy one.

Q.F.T. the slight performance gain is def not worth the risks

[genocyde]

I would think if one frys it saves the other from frying ... so its not likely that you have both damaged.
I'm an electronics technician as well as a computer enthusiast. Every time I've seen a Pentium chip fry it takes out the MB or nearest device. The last one, a co-worker of mine replaced his CPU in the same board to check if that was the problem and the apparently damaged MB took out the new processor instantly on power up. Your luck will probably be better than his but I would suggest you contact someone of the computer tech field to diagnose your problem. Could save you money in the long run but will surely save you peace of mind.

Also, overclocking is never worth the risks unless designated by manufacturer. The chips are rated how fast they are by how much the factory knows they can handle....

[Judge001]

Thanks for all the feedback. I'll stop by Fry's on the way home and test the old chip out on a new motherboard to see if it was the motherboard and not the chip that got fried. A new chip is already on it's way from Newegg.

I've been reading more and apparently it's really hard to fry one of these chips, as the chip is supposed to shut itself off if it gets too hot. Either that didn't happen, it did happen and the chip still got fried, or the motherboard went bad.

As I said, thanks for the feedback. It's appreciated.

[Drecan]

food for thought. i've been overclocking computers since i learned how to do it. first this never do it with a OEM CPU fan. they sometimes will cover the heat increase but most of the time its safer to with a after market bigger fan if you can fit in your case. since getting my computer set up i've formated 3 times due to invalid overclock/tweeks that i've done in vista/bios and using my ASUS and AMD overclock software that run in windows and pretty much makes a virtual 'turbo' button on your computer. I've gotten my AMD 940 3.0 overclocked to 3.8 but of course vista would not boot for some reason. The highest i've gotten windows to but was 3.69 (CPU-Z validator page seen here http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=566189) but I run it at 3.5 and it idles at 30 celcius and while running 3 wow's its about 37-38.

[Sajuuk]

Food for thought: As far as I can tell the OP wasn't trying to overclock his processor. He was simply trying to see if his airflow was okay as he was having highish idle temperatures. He checked the HSF and reseated it, then the problems began.

Feel free to correct me.

[Judge001]

That's correct Sajuuk, and hopefully it's just the motherboard or the cpu, and not both or some other issue.

[Drecan]

oh my bad i misread the original post lol. anyways what tower, video card and mother board are you using out of curiosity, cause those could lead to your high cpu temp as well. a friend of mine from work bought the same computer that i was going to buy (spend 7 months on newegg and various benchmark sites trying to come up with a bang for buck computer) and the only differences between the 2 was i got 8 gigs of ram and a bigger cpu fan. before i went into catalyst and adjusted his fan speed his cpu was running at approx 45 celcius once i was done helping with that his processor idle temp when down to 36 celcius and his gpu(s) temps went down from 61 celcius to 41 celcius on both of them.

My temps: Idle CPU is 30 celcius and with 3 WoW's going it goes up to about 36 celcius
Video Card idle anywhere from 35 celcius all the way down to 31 celcious with the WoWs x3 going runs from 41 to 45 celcius.

Edited: to add my temps for temp comparison

[Judge001]

At work, but...

Video Card: 8800 GTS
Case: Some Antec Case with what should be decent airflow
Heat Sink: Thermaltake V1