Multibox Naxxramas

[Theradin]

Naxx encounters fully multi-boxed. If anybody's curious, I'm more than happy to share macros and tactics. If I can find the time, I'll upload some higher-quality versions.


Kel'Thuzad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXPReIAja2I

This fight is far and away the most intense fight in the instance. There's such a tremendous potential for things to go wrong.


Sapphiron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4XJtxClnI0

For my first Sapphrion kill I relied on four healers in a fight that lasted over 10 minutes. This two healer kill is much quicker, but because it was a new setup I made some pretty glaring errors including not having an innervate prepared, nor shadowfiends, nor a proper decurser.


Grobbulus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAQ-Sw2V8EA


4 Horsemen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHREPuVHufg

What you generally can't see is that I'm using two restoration shaman on the back end, each with a one-button macro to keep them alive, though I still need to dodge void zones and swap sides. Because the restoration shaman are perpetually attacked, thanks to water shield they have near-infinite mana. When I first made this kill, I instead used a pair of druids on the back end. Restoration shaman are much better.


Heigan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWQ6T3tnHUc

Nothing really special about this attempt save that I let Heigan get a bit too close to my group a few times slowing down DPS.


Gothik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GHZtIsbw94

Unfortunately this video doesn't show what's happening on the live side, which might be of more interest to people.


Thaddius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erks3SX_4mI

This one was pretty messy and the camera isn't well placed. On this attempt I also missed ledge jumps with two characters.

**Edit: I apologize for my UI in some of the videos. I recently changed much of my setup and there were still a few kinks to work out. Unfortunately the video captured some of those kinks.

[David]

Just omg, you did it all. I`ll be watching the video`s this evening. Had a quick peek at Thaddius. Amazing how the you did the first positioning. Really looking forward to watch the whole movie and all the others.

For now I`m pretty curious what your hardware specs are including numbers of mouses, keyboards and other tools.

[Theradin]

"For now I`m pretty curious what your hardware specs are including numbers of mouses, keyboards and other tools.
Mouse
A single, simple Everglide G-1000 mouse. It's nothing special, a mid-range gaming mouse.

Keyboard
I use a Wolfking Warrior, it puts a great many keys within easy reach. One drawback is that the alt key isn't in a useful position. To get around that I had to remap input keys in my computer's registry and tab is now forever where alt is, and vice-versa. If you can live with that, I'd recommend it.

Software
Something I threw together myself. It has numerous bugs, but I needed more versatility than what current software offered and this was the only way to get that.

Computers
I play on two computers. One computer has a Q9550 CPU with a Radeon 4970. It can handle up to about 7 accounts, at which point it starts to hit a bottleneck somewhere. The other computer is an Asus m50sv notebook which has a Core 2 T9300 and GeForce 9500m. When I started out in Naxx, I was running on the Q9550 alone. Only recently was I able to add the laptop into the setup as it required pretty heavy modification of my software.

I hope that helps! :)

[Dzonatan]

OMG! get a life! (joke) Kudos to you dude... although I have no freakin idea how the hell you manage to do fights that takes nonstop caring over multiply things like:

- Anubrhekan (Offtank the add)
- Grand Window (Offtank and pull the add at right time)
- Maexenna (keep it clean through all fight with the rotations of her skills)

- Noth (imo easy since I dont see a problem with tank and spank and ocasional adds)
- Heigan ( this one is beyond me since you must kite him, safety dance and postion ranged and heals on the platform and probably /focus name /follow when he ports there.)
- Loatheb (a DPS race IMO but gotta watch everyones HP from experience as a Lock from this encounter I know how annoying that class may be in this encounter)

- Patchwerk (DPS race)
- Grobullus (Moving, decursing, add, kite all at the same time... damn!)
- Gluth cant say much abaut this encounter since I did it only once but I do remember something abaut taking down adds qucikly)
-Thaddius ( 2 tanks, moving all to the platform, and watching over everyone polarity... sheer imposobility IMO)

- Instructor Rezuvius (2 tanks and switching between them, refreshing MC)
- Gothik (watching over 2 parties and cleaning adds)
- 4 Horsemen ( doing 4 at a time... crap!)

- Sapphiron never had the chance to do this one)
- Kel'thuzad (adds at first, watching over fissure, tank the adds agian, MC the chained ones, Mana Bomb)

I just ask this one question... do you happen to have 2 heads and a another set of hands?!

[David]

A single, simple Everglide G-1000 mouse. It's nothing special, a mid-range gaming mouse. Doesn`t look really like a comfortable gaming mouse but then again, I`m using a real shitty old one which suits me good (tho speed and precision are bad)
I really like the mouses that Wolfking has to offer. Might look into those.


I use a Wolfking Warrior, it puts a great many keys within easy reach. One drawback is that the alt key isn't in a useful position. To get around that I had to remap input keys in my computer's registry and tab is now forever where alt is, and vice-versa. If you can live with that, I'd recommend it. I assume you have the normal Warrior and not the Extreme version. Does your normal keyboard still works since the website says it should.


Something I threw together myself. It has numerous bugs, but I needed more versatility than what current software offered and this was the only way to get that. What kind of extra functionality were you looking for?


I play on two computers. One computer has a Q9550 CPU with a Radeon 4970. It can handle up to about 7 accounts, at which point it starts to hit a bottleneck somewhere. The other computer is an Asus m50sv notebook which has a Core 2 T9300 and GeForce 9500m. When I started out in Naxx, I was running on the Q9550 alone. Only recently was I able to add the laptop into the setup as it required pretty heavy modification of my software. I`m wondering how much RAM the computer has since it was able to run 10x wow and how much harddisks.

[David]

As reply to the movies:

Thaddius
Loved the way you got the adds in position while the fight started. Sadly the POV of the paladin doesn`t show it perfectly :-(

4 Horsemen
How did you handle switching the tanks on the caster side? I see them running around the same time. You just turn them around and set auto run, the do the same on the second and then go back to the first to stop him?

And on the melee side. Did you have a healer on the second tank or does he keep himself alive untill the first one is burned down. I also noticed that you popped heroism at the second boss. Seems kind of a waste since you kill the boss in less then 30seconds. Could have done it earlyer. Guess you don`t do it at the start of the fight because of the debuffs once you get to the second one?

Heigan
All I can say on the dancing is that it "fits" perfectly.

Sapphiron
Seems like a pretty straight forward tank and spank fight for boxers with a LOT of healing.

Kel'Thuzad
The movie makes it look easy. I allways thought that the fight required 2 tanks.

What is the exact group setup of your raid? I seen some shamans, 2 paladins, 1 boomkin and atleast 1 priest and mage.

Also wondering about your tank macro on the paladin. Mind sharing it?I know I ask a lot:D :rolleyes:

[Theradin]

First - Gratz to your success!

Second - I'd like to know more about this. Why custom? What's custom about it that sets it apart from the (numerous) other solutions currently available?Thanks!

What I wanted in my program was stronger support for keymapping along with an easier and more organized and dynamic way to switch between keymap profiles such that establishing complex keymaps, tweaking those keymaps on an encounter by encounter basis and then switching between them is as straightforward as possible. "Versatility" was probably the wrong word to use when describing why I wrote it. As a whole it doesn't do anything that KeyClone doesn't do, it just does it very differently and in a way that suits my 10-box needs a whole lot more.

[Theradin]

I assume you have the normal Warrior and not the Extreme version. Does your normal keyboard still works since the website says it should.

What kind of extra functionality were you looking for?
I have the normal version, it does work with a normal keyboard. At least I haven't had any problems with such.

My computer makes use of 2 harddisks and it has 8gb of RAM, although with 10 accounts loaded total physical memory used is a bit less than 6gb.

[Theradin]

4 Horsemen
How did you handle switching the tanks on the caster side? I see them running around the same time. You just turn them around and set auto run, the do the same on the second and then go back to the first to stop him?

And on the melee side. Did you have a healer on the second tank or does he keep himself alive untill the first one is burned down. I also noticed that you popped heroism at the second boss. Seems kind of a waste since you kill the boss in less then 30seconds. Could have done it earlyer. Guess you don`t do it at the start of the fight because of the debuffs once you get to the second one? That's it exactly it, auto-run and switching between windows to stop and start. I start the run every second or third void zone depending on how busy I am with the front side. Most of my attention goes to the back end, though.

I do lose a bit of time on the heroism, but often there's some distraction on the back side such that I don't get to pull Rivendare immediately after Thane. I usually have the most trouble with burning Rivendare down before the marks reach an unmanageable level and so I want heroism for as much of that engagement as possible.


Seems like a pretty straight forward tank and spank fight for boxers with a LOT of healing. And a lot of frost resistance. :( Getting my characters spaced is still important, as is using prayer of mending. When I made my first attempts at Sapphiron, I tried having my team eat all blizzards, but even with full frost resistance suits, they still die very quickly.


What is the exact group setup of your raid? I seen some shamans, 2 paladins, 1 boomkin and atleast 1 priest and mage.

Also wondering about your tank macro on the paladin. Mind sharing it?I know I ask a lot:D :rolleyes: In the movies, I use 2 paladins, 1 druid, 2 priests, 1 mage and 4 shaman in the movies, all of them with 10 man and heroic gear only. When I first started and completed Naxx ( save Kel'Thuzad ) I was using the same group, but replace 1 priest with a druid and 1 paladin with a death knight. I'm much happier with the new arrangement.

As for the macro, it's embarassingly simple. I don't mind sharing it, but it's not impressive at all:

/castsequence reset=8 Shield of Righteousness, Hammer of the Righteous, Consecration, Holy Shield, Judgement of Wisdom

Consecration isn't glyphed and judgement is talented. As a whole I get about 3.5k - 4k tps.

[Youngceo]

Awesome videos man, watched every single one of them.

I've 5boxed the first 2 wings in naxx with my guildies help however I was wondering about some of the other fights, mainly thaddius however it looks like it took you absolutely ages to start dpsin him down so that gives me a bit more confidence.

[Theradin]

I've 5boxed the first 2 wings in naxx with my guildies help however I was wondering about some of the other fights, mainly thaddius however it looks like it took you absolutely ages to start dpsin him down so that gives me a bit more confidence.There's a lot of leeway in the Thaddius fight. I'd say as long as you can break 2k DPS you will have enough time to manually position everybody and ignore polarity shifts. The harder part of the fight is dealing with Feugan and Stalagg while giving your party some initial spacing and keeping everybody alive. If you can do that, you should be set.

[puppychow]

gratz man thats insane!!! Are you gonna be hitting ulduar next?

[Kalahan]

Congrats on clearing it, loved the vids, especially the Saphiron one, that battle reminds me a bit of Onyxia from back in the day..

[Kang]

Great vids! The classical scores set a great mood for the fights. The waltz on Heigan was great!

[Sandwich]

I'm curious how you heal. Do you use the same general macros or does it switch from fight to fight?

[Sandwich]

In the movies, I use 2 paladins, 1 druid, 2 priests, 1 mage and 4 shaman in the movies, all of them with 10 man and heroic gear only. When I first started and completed Naxx ( save Kel'Thuzad ) I was using the same group, but replace 1 priest with a druid and 1 paladin with a death knight. I'm much happier with the new arrangement.

As for the macro, it's embarassingly simple. I don't mind sharing it, but it's not impressive at all:

/castsequence reset=8 Shield of Righteousness, Hammer of the Righteous, Consecration, Holy Shield, Judgement of Wisdom

Consecration isn't glyphed and judgement is talented. As a whole I get about 3.5k - 4k tps.Did you place a healing priest with a healing druid? Or a dps priest with a dps druid? Death Knight tank?

[Theradin]

gratz man thats insane!!! Are you gonna be hitting ulduar next?Already there. I only started making some attempts last week, but here's my first 10-box FL kill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkvx4RVUfZM

[Theradin]

I'm curious how you heal. Do you use the same general macros or does it switch from fight to fight?I use a few general macros for the most part. There are a few fights where I use more general macros, but there aren't many: Malygos, Four Horsemen ( for the back characters ), Sapphiron ( though not in the video I posted ) - I have some specific macros for them all. I also use some other tricks such as binding a 'cleanse tank' onto the same key as my DPS during Maexxna and Heigan in order to keep my tank clear of diseases and poisons.


Did you place a healing priest with a healing druid? Or a dps priest with a dps druid? Death Knight tank? Sorry, I should've been more clear.

Old Party: 1 paladin, 1 DK, 2 druids, 4 shaman, 1 mage, 1 priest
New Party: 2 paladins, 1 druid, 4 shaman, 1 mage, 2 priests

[Taliesin]

Truly awesome. Can't wait to see more of the vids on how you cleared the other wings. I'd like to be able to start running my full group through at least some of the content with the help of friends (only 2-boxed there at best). I don't think I'll ever be working on doing 10-mans solo, though. 5 toons seems to be my happy medium.

[MiRai]

Nice Theradin...quite the accomplishment. When I get my people to 80....maybe I'll be able to justify 10 accounts :) I went 5....why not 10? :)
Can't wait to see more of the vids on how you cleared the other wings.http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=theraedrimar&view=videos

All bosses of Naxx are on his page as well as the new Flame Leviathan.

[Basilikos]

If my employment situation would correct itself, I'd SO be 10 boxing right now. I'm not quite done leveling the second 5-man team, but they're getting there. Until then, I'll have to keep content with the theory crafting. But gratz are in order since this is no easy feat.

[Frappuccino]

Grats.. incredible stuff

I'm curious with how you go about healing with regards to your key bindings. For my group I use 1-5 based on the order it appears (at least before 3.1..) on my tanks screen. Do you use like 1-0 or something? Seperate keys to heal for each healer?

[daviddoran]

I'm curious as to the Heigan fight. From the looks of it, you have 2 /follow macros, one for the main tank and another for another toon. From the video it looks like you have the whole raid minus the MT follow one toon over to zone 1, then all follow the MT, dance dance dance, then when its over, 8 toons follow the same other toon (OT?) back to the platform?

And on phase 1 of Thaddius, how did you manage targeting during the tank swap? I'm guessing you all targeted based off someone other than the 2 tanks?

I'm starting to learn that standard targeting, following and moving isn't gonna cut it for multiboxing raids. I need to start setting up more advanced keybinds for myself.

And Grats btw!

[Theradin]

I'm curious as to the Heigan fight. From the looks of it, you have 2 /follow macros, one for the main tank and another for another toon. From the video it looks like you have the whole raid minus the MT follow one toon over to zone 1, then all follow the MT, dance dance dance, then when its over, 8 toons follow the same other toon (OT?) back to the platform?

And on phase 1 of Thaddius, how did you manage targeting during the tank swap? I'm guessing you all targeted based off someone other than the 2 tanks?

I'm starting to learn that standard targeting, following and moving isn't gonna cut it for multiboxing raids. I need to start setting up more advanced keybinds for myself.

And Grats btw!You're close. I use two macros for the Heigan fight.

Macro 1: Everybody follows the main tank.
Macro 2: Everybody but the main tank follows the off-tank.

When I'm running to and from the platform, I'm making use of macro 2. When I'm doing the dance I make use of macro 1.

On Thaddius, I make use of a special target macro. For example the people on the Feugen side use:

/targetexact Thaddius
/targetexact Feugen

And thanks. :)

[Theradin]

Grats.. incredible stuff

I'm curious with how you go about healing with regards to your key bindings. For my group I use 1-5 based on the order it appears (at least before 3.1..) on my tanks screen. Do you use like 1-0 or something? Seperate keys to heal for each healer?I follow a similar principle. Because I'm making use of a Wolfking Warrior for my gaming keyboard, I'm using a slightly different set of keys, but like you I have basic heals bound to keys that are placed in the same order as my party. I use 4 - 7 for party 1 and alt 4 - 7 for party 2. I then use O and B along with various alt/shift/ctrl modifiers for healing the tanks. Because I'm using keymaps, the healer that responds to a keybind sometimes depends on the particular fight I'm in. Mostly though I'm lazy in Naxx and leave individual party member healing to only one of my two priests. I then have various AoE heals attached to the "," and "." keys. ( My key choices may sound odd, but they'll make more sense if you Google for an image of the Warrior. )

I can get away with the in-order keybinds due to using Pitbull unit frames - it allows me to keep my raid sorted such that raid members are in the same order across all clients.