Moonkin Cast macros

[DLoweinc]

Can I see what people are using? My moonkin falls behind my mage and elemental shaman in dps by a large margin (he does like 2200dps on bosses compared to consistantly over 3k on my shaman and mage). I would love to squeeze out more dps

I saw the one in the /click thread but for some reason it isn't working for me (using bartender4).

My current one is something like:

/cast [nostance:4] moonkin form (or whatever the spelling is)

/assist party1

/use 13

/use 14

/castrandom wrath, wrath, wrath, wrath, wrath, wrath, starfire, starfire, starfire, starfire, starfire, starfire, insect swarm, faerie fire

[wowphreak]

using Glyph of Moonfire,Glyph of Insect Swarm

/castsequence reset=target/combat faerie fire ,null
/castsequence reset=target/combat insect swarm,moonfire,Starfire,Starfire,Starfire, Starfire,

depending on how much haste yeh have you and whether or not yeh took nature splendor yeh will have to add more starfires so you dont clip yer moonfire dot.
Depending on how much haste yeh got yeh might have to much haste for wrath its only a 2 second cast time spell and if yeh picked up startlight wrath its 1.5
So if yer haste would reduce it below 1 sec it would be better to cast starfire. If yeh picked up nature grace there's even more reason to go with starfire

Moonfire does a good amount of damage.

no idea what yer specced but improved faire fire is something yeh really want increases to hit for the entire party and 3% crit for the moonkin.

[DLoweinc]

So with the macro you posted what kind of dps do you do? (and approximate gear lvl).


For comparison my guy is in full iLvl 200 gear from heroics half blues half epics

[Poetry]

Interesting timing on this since I had just started to make a similar post. I recently dual spec'd my resto druid to moonkin. I keep hearing that moonkin single target dps can be really good but my moonkin brings up the bottom of the meter every time (doesn't help that her hit is a little low but still). I'm way too busy with my other toons to watch for eclipse procs so my rotation has been trying to play the odds. It's like, fingers crossed that eclipse will proc on one of the first three starfires. Unfortunately it doesn't work out that way very often. Here is my current castsequence:


/castsequence [nochanneling:Hurricane] reset=combat Moonfire,Insect Swarm,Starfire,Starfire,Starfire,Insect Swarm,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath

My moonkin is glyphed for Moonfire, Insect Swarm, and Starfire. Her gear is mostly heroic/Naxx but I'm often getting under 2K dps. I obviously have the formula wrong :(
This is my build Moonkin ('http://us.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=11&tal=5032003125331303213305301031000000000000000000 000000000000205003212000000000000000000')

[DLoweinc]

Well I think that perhaps we can create a thread where we post talent build, glyphs, macros and dps (perhaps a gear score too) so people can easily play new casters in their groups?

I know 4 elemental shaman + 1 paladin was the original and many people are still playing that, but a lot have moved toward mixed class groups as well. Perhaps if there is enough response we can make a formal thread and put it into the wiki or something

[Clone]

Interesting timing on this since I had just started to make a similar post. I recently dual spec'd my resto druid to moonkin. I keep hearing that moonkin single target dps can be really good but my moonkin brings up the bottom of the meter every time (doesn't help that her hit is a little low but still). I'm way too busy with my other toons to watch for eclipse procs so my rotation has been trying to play the odds. It's like, fingers crossed that eclipse will proc on one of the first three starfires. Unfortunately it doesn't work out that way very often. Here is my current castsequence:


/castsequence [nochanneling:Hurricane] reset=combat Moonfire,Insect Swarm,Starfire,Starfire,Starfire,Insect Swarm,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath

My moonkin is glyphed for Moonfire, Insect Swarm, and Starfire. Her gear is mostly heroic/Naxx but I'm often getting under 2K dps. I obviously have the formula wrong :(
This is my build Moonkin ('http://us.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=11&tal=5032003125331303213305301031000000000000000000 000000000000205003212000000000000000000')


Im also trying to find a good cast macro for my druid but Im trying to avoid /castsequence as you then lose a large portion of dps from server lag. At the moment im using /castrandom wrath, wrath, starfire, starfire, starfire. I have Insect swarm on a seperate key thats bound to flameshock for my shamans. I find my druid not coming in too far behind the shamans but he sure runs out of mana much faster. Im not much good at writing macros, but is there some way to make a macro that checks the target for insect swarm and faerie fire and if they aren't present applies them, if they are present continues to spam the /castrandom wrath/starfire?

[Nolife]

I have separate macros for DoT's and Direct Damage.

This is my boomkin DoT macro:


/petattack
/castsequence [harm][target=party1target, harm] reset=target/combat Faerie Fire, null
/castsequence [harm][target=party1target, harm] reset=target/combat/18 Moonfire, Insect Swarm, Starfire, Starfire, Starfire

Those starfire spells at the end of macro are there so i have something to cast while waiting for other toons to finish their DoT cast OR i'm too busy to notice when to switch back to DD macro OR I try to cast DoT's before castsequence is reseted. I have /petattack command in there because I usually use treants and DoTs only during boss fights. Trashmobs die too fast for DoTs or treants to be useful.

Direct Damage macro:


/stopmacro [channeling]
/use <DPS Trinket>
/castrandom [harm][target=party1target, harm] Wrath, Wrath, Starfire


Last night I tested my solo DPS on Boss Dummy and got average of 2,7k. I'm not hit capped and gear is 1/3 blue items and 2/3 naxx epics.

Currently I'm leveling a mixed group. Final setup should be Prot Pala, Holy Priest, Boomkin, Ele Shaman and a Mage (not sure of spec atm). I hope to boost my groups dps with wide variety of buffs and debuffs.

[DLoweinc]

I have separate macros for DoT's and Direct Damage.

This is my boomkin DoT macro:


/petattack
/castsequence [harm][target=party1target, harm] reset=target/combat Faerie Fire, null
/castsequence [harm][target=party1target, harm] reset=target/combat/18 Moonfire, Insect Swarm, Starfire, Starfire, Starfire

Those starfire spells at the end of macro are there so i have something to cast while waiting for other toons to finish their DoT cast OR i'm too busy to notice when to switch back to DD macro OR I try to cast DoT's before castsequence is reseted. I have /petattack command in there because I usually use treants and DoTs only during boss fights. Trashmobs die too fast for DoTs or treants to be useful.

Direct Damage macro:


/stopmacro [channeling]
/use <DPS Trinket>
/castrandom [harm][target=party1target, harm] Wrath, Wrath, Starfire


Last night I tested my solo DPS on Boss Dummy and got average of 2,7k. I'm not hit capped and gear is 1/3 blue items and 2/3 naxx epics.

Currently I'm leveling a mixed group. Final setup should be Prot Pala, Holy Priest, Boomkin, Ele Shaman and a Mage (not sure of spec atm). I hope to boost my groups dps with wide variety of buffs and debuffs.
I am using this exact same group makeup and the dps in GROUP is MUCH higher than individual. For me, arcane spec mage is the best and is on par with or outdps's my elemental shaman even though he outgears him moderately.


DPS #'s: (All on dungeon heroic bosses)

Mage: 3k (w/heroism 4k+)

Shaman: 3k (w/heroism 4k+)

Moonkin: 2200-2600 (w/heroism 3200 to 3400)

Shadow Priest (when he doesn't need to heal): 1400 (w/heroism 1800)

I will be posting my druid's current macro and I believe my mage macro is already in this thread. I tried the Frostfire Bolt build and it fails compared to arcane, even with arcane being a castsequence macro!

[Poetry]

I have /petattack command in there because I usually use treants and DoTs only during boss fights.
How do you cast your treants? They are a great dps boost but right now I tend to ignore them because the ground targeting system makes them a pain to use. :(



/stopmacro [channeling]
/use <DPS Trinket>
/castrandom [harm][target=party1target, harm] Wrath, Wrath, Starfire
Alternating like this definitely seems to be a better way to play the eclipse odds. I just tried it out and saw a nice increase in dps. Thanks for the idea! :thumbsup:

[Nolife]

How do you cast your treants? They are a great dps boost but right now I tend to ignore them because the ground targeting system makes them a pain to use. :(
Simple answer: InnerSpace :thumbsup:

[Taliesin]

I'm still working out my boomkin rotation as well, but the DPS is also hovering about 2.5-3K on bosses, shaman about 3.5K, and arcane mage 4K+ (all with heroism). The boomkin is about 300 spellpower behind though (he's the newest to the team), so he's at a disadvantage anyways. However, I suggest a look over at a Moonkin Raiding FAQ ('http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12661300942&sid=1') on the WOW official forums. Keep in mind that this is a raiding guide, but a lot of the theory should help out even in heroics.

The main complication for boomkins is that a lot of damage comes down to proper management of Eclipse procs. When you proc on Wrath, you need to be casting nothing but Starfire until Eclipse has expired. If you proc on Starfire, you need to be casting nothing but Wrath until Eclipse has expired.

Unfortunately, one cast sequence is not going to manage this properly. Ideally, we would like a rotation like: IS, MF, Wrath, Wrath..(until proc), then Starfire from then on until you refresh IS and MF (assuming you want to proc for the Starfire crit bonus over Wrath bonus damage).

I don't have time to toy with it right now, but you could write the macro to apply the DOTs when you use one modifier, Wrath with another modifier (until proc), then Starfire as the standard cast. I'm not a fan of trying to micromanage the rotation, but that's where a large portion of the DPS is missing for most people. Also, I'm not sure what the internal proc cooldown is (if any) on Eclipse, which may have some impact on the rotation as well (i.e. can you proc Eclipse right away after the last one has elapsed?).

Right now, I use something like: /castsequence reset=target/combat/15 Wrath, IS, MF, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Starfire, Starfire, Starfire, Starfire

The first Wrath is to apply the Earth and Moon effect for the damage boost to everything else that follows (not to mention all other teammates), though I'm not sure this is ideal (I never spent the time with the target dummies on him yet). I cast in blocks of Wrath and Starfire in hopes to try to put any Eclipse procs to the most efficient use without the micromanagement. I play the odds that the first wrath doesn't proc Eclipse, but if it does then I waste most of the proc time before even getting to the Starfires.

I'm going to try to toy with this macro sometime this week.

[genocyde]

running my team of moonkin, spriest, mage x3 I always had the best DPS/Luck on bosses doing the following:

I would make 2 action bars on the druid and make them identical with the exception of my main spam spell. Bar 1 would have a starfire spam macro and bar 2 would have a wrath spam macro.
Both bars had a button in the same location that performed a bar swap between the two. Whenever I saw the moon above my moonkin (or the symbol on pitbull on my mains screen) I would do a quick bar swap and continue spamming.
This worked great until you got enough haste to ditch wrath but I did over 4k dps which still fell short of my arcane mages who did 6k+ in heroic gear.

Just food for thought on the micromanagement.

Edit: spelling

[DLoweinc]

running my team of moonkin, spriest, mage x3 I always had the best DPS/Luck on bosses doing the following:

I would make 2 action bars on the druid and make them identical with the exception of my main spam spell. Bar 1 would have a starfire spam macro and bar 2 would have a wrath spam macro.
Both bars had a button in the same location that performed a bar swap between the two. Whenever I saw the moon above my moonkin (or the symbol on pitbull on my mains screen) I would do a quick bar swap and continue spamming.
This worked great until you got enough haste to ditch wrath but I did over 4k dps which still fell short of my arcane mages who did 6k+ in heroic gear.

Just food for thought on the micromanagement.

Edit: spellingWhat were you using to hit 6k with your mage?

EDIT: also, what did you do with your Spriest? mine BLOWS!

[Poetry]

So after going over the ideas in this thread, this is what I finally decided to go with:

/castsequence reset=target/combat Faerie Fire,null
/castsequence [nochanneling] reset=target/combat Moonfire,Insect Swarm,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire,In sect Swarm,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire
/use 13
/use 14
Significant dps improvement over my old macro (now looking back at it...what was I thinking??). Still far from ideal but it's simple enough and doesn't require any babysitting. I will gladly sacrifice some dps to avoid micromanagement.

[Taliesin]

Hmm, I find myself liking all your macros, Poetry. Tried this one out and damage was pretty solid... that is, as much as it can be without manually managing Eclipse procs, which I have no intention of doing either.

Only tweak I really made to it was:


/castsequence [nochanneling] reset=target/combat Moonfire,Insect Swarm,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire,Starfire,Starfire ,Insect Swarm,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire,Starfire,Starfire

You'll see I grouped the Wraths and Starfires together a little more, hoping that it is maybe a little more efficient on the Eclipse procs (testing is very inconclusive on whether this is even making any difference). The main change really is going a little heavier on Starfire for two reasons: I want the rotation to take a little longer to factor in Nature's Grace and Heroism, and I noticed that Moonfire can sometimes drop off before the 3rd Starfire can sneak in to extend it for that last 3s boost from Glyph of Starfire.

Disclaimer: Testing done self-buffed only. +4.65% hit, +4% hit from talent, +3% hit from Imp Faerie Fire (i.e. total of +11.65% hit), on a 80 heroic dummy. 1728 spellpower in moonkin form, about half blue and half purple gear. DPS is consistently around 2200 DPS, spikes upwards of 2500 DPS.