How do you level while avoiding collection quests?

[AlienChild]

I just started to level a Paladin+4xShaman team. I am only at level 11 but finding it very hard to find quests that are not "collection quests" as these are a HUGE pain to do 5x over. By "collection quests" I mean quests that involve having to retreive an item from a mob or from an object, for EVERY character. Quest xp is really great with RAF bonus but killing mobs is not that great for levelling, even with RAF bonus. The problem is that it seems that almost every quest I am getting seems to be some sort of collection quest.

So what are my options, suck it up and continue, hoping that at higher levels this improves a lot or find a starter zone with much less "collection quests", or .....?

Looking for tips on how to level fast with a 5xTeam.

[Drew]

Follow the guide in this post. ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=14471')

It's been working great for me, and judging by the responses in the thread, for many others as well.

[Svpernova09]

Welcome to World of QuestCollectionCraft. It'll only get worse. Especially 70-80. Best advice is go instance when you can't stand to do collections, and go do collections when you can't stand to instance.

You can bind your interact with target to a key so you can tell the slaves to loot the corpse for the quest item, that should help tons.

[sparvath]

i didnt. Just used them to get a lot of kill xp.

[Catamer]

70-80 is so full of collections is hurts.
I have serious collection quest burnout... I really can't stand WoLK questing because of this.

My team made great progress from 70-72 doing BC dungeons, Magisters Terrace and old world dailies ( non-collection )
I finally decided to do some northend quests and felt like I wasted 4 hours getting 2 bars.
you are litterally forced to do 2-3 collection quests to open up other quests, you have no option but to do them.
Quest rewards are better, XP/kill is better and yet in the long run overall XP/Hour is far less.

I guess I'll just keep doing dungens while rested.

[Svpernova09]

70-80 is so full of collections is hurts.
I have serious collection quest burnout... I really can't stand WoLK questing because of this.

My team made great progress from 70-72 doing BC dungeons, Magisters Terrace and old world dailies ( non-collection )
I finally decided to do some northend quests and felt like I wasted 4 hours getting 2 bars.
you are litterally forced to do 2-3 collection quests to open up other quests, you have no option but to do them.
Quest rewards are better, XP/kill is better and yet in the long run overall XP/Hour is far less.

I guess I'll just keep doing dungens while rested.I leveled 3 from 70-80 off northrend quests (no instances) with little problems, there was a couple quests that was terrible, but how I thought of it, was I was going to be out killing shit anyway, might as well get the drops. Took me about 5 weeks to level my 3 to 80. But I was also raiding 3-4 nights a weeks and still running tons and tons of heroics on my druid.

It seems really daunting, and it kinda is, but what I did was just set small goals. That's what keeps the game fun for me, everything I do, I set small goals for myself. I just did 1 zone at a time till I had the achievement.

[Gomotron]

70-80 is so full of collections is hurts.
I have serious collection quest burnout... I really can't stand WoLK questing because of this.

My team made great progress from 70-72 doing BC dungeons, Magisters Terrace and old world dailies ( non-collection )
I finally decided to do some northend quests and felt like I wasted 4 hours getting 2 bars.
you are litterally forced to do 2-3 collection quests to open up other quests, you have no option but to do them.
Quest rewards are better, XP/kill is better and yet in the long run overall XP/Hour is far less.

I guess I'll just keep doing dungens while rested.I found that collection quests are a teesy-weensy bit less painful when I started using an add-on call Looter ('http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/looter.aspx') (link to Curse.com page).

It hasn't been updated in a few months but will still work properly as long as you allow the use of out-of-date addons.

Basically, it just automates the looting of quest-related items by your characters, useful on slaves to avoid picking all the crap that you don't need. I also use a quest announcer that will broadcast to my main the progress with quests (Soandso has collected 4/12 of POS).

[falsfire3401]

Collection quests must be a pain on a 5-box team. They're not so bad on a 2-box team that I run, I guess I like them actually because the extra kills required offset the reduced xp I'm getting from kills since my toons are not RAF'ed (I already owned both accounts and wanted a dual BE team without having to open a 3rd account AND upgrade it to TBC to get a BE).

I had particular fun doing the 'collect 30 human skulls' quest in Hillsbrad. Prot pally and holy priest, I pulled about 12 mobs at once and just AE tanked them while the priest healed me. I got all 60 skulls in 4-5 pulls like that :)

[Memn]

I just started levelling my 2nd group from 70 to 80... its way more painful than I remembered it being.. but I had the motivation of the rush to 80, and seeing all the new content for the first time when I levelled my 1st team...

For my 2nd team, I am trying to accept collection quests as soon as possible, working on the other quests first, and turning them in when they get complete, only grinding out hte remainder fo the collection quests when I have completeld and turned in all other quests in the area...

This way, I can collect a collection quest over the time I did 2 or 3 steps in a chain that didn't have collection quests in the area.

70-80 is horrible though... I wish Blizz would add some feature to reduce the levelling requirement on accounts that already have a max level toon on in.

[aboron]

70-80 is horrible though... I wish Blizz would add some feature to reduce the levelling requirement on accounts that already have a max level toon on in.

They did, sortta, by letting your max level guys buy the 10% XP boost shoulders ( http://www.wowwiki.com/Heirloom ('http://www.wowwiki.com/Heirloom') ) and then mail them to your next group down.
It's not a huge boost, but every bit helps on that long grind to 80.

[falsfire3401]

70-80 is horrible though... I wish Blizz would add some feature to reduce the levelling requirement on accounts that already have a max level toon on in.

Yeah I've leveled (solo) two toons from 70-80 now and not looking forward to doing it again on my dual-box team. I really hated the "Boring Tundra" in particular. But I am looking forward to being able to do alot of the group quests by myself this time round :)

Just really not looking forward to all the vehicle quests...from what I understand it's rather difficult to get both toons on the vehicle and get both of them issuing the vehicle commands to use the vehicle's abilities, etc. I know alot of them can be done by just having the slave get on their regular mount and /follow the toon in the vehicle...but some of them just won't work like that I think...

In particular, not looking forward to the two "ride the giant" quests, the one in Zul'Drak and the one in Sholazar Basin...especially since the ZD one phases you, I'd have to get both toons on giants and get one of them to follow the other and not die (ie have it pickup storm clouds and AOE mobs to regain health and help with the killing), either that or just do those two quests separately on the two toons...I dunno.


Sorry to have derailed the thread...I'm done now <blush>

[Malekyth]

I'm grinding down toward my Northrend Loremaster achievement, and finishing Grizzly Hills is just AGONIZING. Every collection quest I turn in seems to net me -- go figure! -- another collection quest. I can do three or four in a session, then I have to go run a dungeon or do some quick and lovely Icecrown dailies. Fortunately I'm 14 quests away from polishing off Grizzly Hills. UNfortunately, still to do is 90% of Zul'Drak. Ugh.

[Basilikos]

I've just been working through ALL of the Northrend quest achievements on my mixed group and as it turns out, it's easier to just suck it up and do the quests as you get them. Leveling is NOT a problem this way and you don't end up skipping stuff just to avoid a little more work. Halfway through Zul'Drak now. Not quite level 79 (but I started Northrend at level 72).

[Yamio]

I do all the collection quests as well, mainly for the cash thou. Like Basilikos, I've gotten into the mode of doing almost every quest I see and ignore how mind numbing they can be.

[dwaine]

You mean I am not the only one? I did all quests in northrend on my shammies x5. I hit 77 in grizzly hills, wich was perfect so I could fly in zuldrak. I completed every quest and even got the accievment for doing all northrend quests. It wasnt really that bad and it make a ton of gold.

[Klesh]

No, you arent' the only one dwaine.
My first 4-box team got the northrend quest achievement too, as well as my warrior which duo'ed with my wifes shaman.
My 2nd 4-box team is 78 now (yay! another 28k down the drain for 4 epic flyers + cold weather flying), they've completed all quests up to Grizzly Hills. Going to skip Zul'drak, next is Storm Peaks for Hodir and Icecrown for Ebon Blade dailies. Sholazar Basin is usually the last zone I complete.

Am having a hard time questing through Outlands though. If you skip all collection quests and instances (and dont want to get to Northrend at 68), you run out of quests at about 69. And well, Shadowmoon Valley is a royal pain without flying mounts......

Don't really know why, I can't force myself to do any collection quests in Outlands, but they aren't that bad in Northrend so I just complete 'em all.

[moji]

FTL system really helps, just lead with one toon till he's done with the collection part, switch leads and keep going. It's mindnumbingly boring, especially if you've leveled up as many toons as I have, but that's all part of it. Just get something good playing on TV, get a tall glass of whiskey and just grind away. My only problem is keeping track of who has finished what, getting back to the questgiver and 1 or 2 toons are short an item or two.

[Basilikos]

It wasnt really that bad and it make a ton of gold.

Everyone here needs to read this fellow's statement again. Both parts are true. My mixed group doesn't have epic flying yet and I'm hoping that I can get most of the gold myself while questing so that I can start farming the level 80 dailies at maximum pace immediately.

[JoeWunsch]

Unless you are using RAF or plan on making up a ton of that XP in instances, you will not be able to skip collection quests, you are going to have to just pull through them. I personally don't even mind them, you get more coin from the mobs you kill, and honestly WOTLK collection quests are much easier than BC it seems, i am have a pretty easy time in WOTLK (I just finally upgraded this week)

Also, this may not be doable by everyone depending on your employer, or your personal preferences -- but a bag of some high quality cannabis, is more than enough to get you through a bunch of boring collection quests :thumbsup: Only side effect is you will have to take breaks to run to the kitchen for munchies.

[Gadzooks]

70-80 is horrible though... I wish Blizz would add some feature to reduce the levelling requirement on accounts that already have a max level toon on in.

Yeah I've leveled (solo) two toons from 70-80 now and not looking forward to doing it again on my dual-box team. I really hated the "Boring Tundra" in particular. But I am looking forward to being able to do alot of the group quests by myself this time round :)

Just really not looking forward to all the vehicle quests...from what I understand it's rather difficult to get both toons on the vehicle and get both of them issuing the vehicle commands to use the vehicle's abilities, etc. I know alot of them can be done by just having the slave get on their regular mount and /follow the toon in the vehicle...but some of them just won't work like that I think...

In particular, not looking forward to the two "ride the giant" quests, the one in Zul'Drak and the one in Sholazar Basin...especially since the ZD one phases you, I'd have to get both toons on giants and get one of them to follow the other and not die (ie have it pickup storm clouds and AOE mobs to regain health and help with the killing), either that or just do those two quests separately on the two toons...I dunno.


Sorry to have derailed the thread...I'm done now </blush>

I leveled 3 through Northrend together, and it took a little longer than everyone else, but that's fine, I did'nt have to fight for mobs as much.

As for the giant riding quests and such, I just did each toon solo - by time I did it 2 times, the 3rd was easy. It's a pain to slow down like that, but the quests themselves are fun.

The only quest I needed help with was Last Rites - so I just pugged it, after getting spanked hard with my 3. Two dks were there, so we grouped, killed him, they went on their way. Never spoke in chat, or anything. :)

The next time I needed help was in Icecrown, some of the quests there require 5, no matter what (with quest greens and blues).

I did'nt mind the collection quests, what irked me the most was follow breaking when flying.

I look at them the same as above - I'm gonna grind mobs anyway. *shrug*.

[DIllett7799]

Unless you are using RAF or plan on making up a ton of that XP in instances, you will not be able to skip collection quests, you are going to have to just pull through them. I personally don't even mind them, you get more coin from the mobs you kill, and honestly WOTLK collection quests are much easier than BC it seems, i am have a pretty easy time in WOTLK (I just finally upgraded this week)

Also, this may not be doable by everyone depending on your employer, or your personal preferences -- but a bag of some high quality cannabis, is more than enough to get you through a bunch of boring collection quests :thumbsup: Only side effect is you will have to take breaks to run to the kitchen for munchies.Best way to do it.

[Starbuck_Jones]

Pre RAF days, my first 5man group was a priest and 4 mages. other than getting to level 20 by mostly grinding in a few select overworld places, as at the time, thats when Arcane Explosion became instant cast via talents and my priest picked up holy nova. I ground totaly in instances. I must have ran Shadowfang Keep about 40 times to get all the cloth drops off the last guy for all 5 of my guys. If I remember right there were 3 drops for each toon to get. I did the same with SM and Sunken Temple etc.

With the reduction in xp needed to level 1-70, you can easily get to 70 w/o doing any collection quests by doing kill quests and just grinding and it wont be painfull.

Northrend and the 70-80 run... If you want to unlock stuff like dailies. your going to just have to bite the bullet. My current group is grinding out every quest I can get my hands on, but im enjoying the lore and I know that there is only so many quests and things to do in this expansion and I feel I will have them all done to my satisfaction before the next expando pack comes out. I will say this. There is no way in hell ill do this again with another group. Im already getting the urge to start a new 5man group as collection quests now are nothing more than time sinks at level 80, and I have 4.5 zones untouched in Northrend.

[Catamer]

WoLK seems to me like one big anti-boxing mess.
I've reached 74 and decided to have a go at some more quest and it's like an XP wall if your a multiboxer.
They have quests that only one person at a time can do them. there is one in coldara, the "rifle the bodies" quest in dragonblight has it so only have one body that can give the item and it has a slow respawn rate of like 2 minutes or more.
They have some quests where only one person can mount at a time, can't follow someone at particular times, the loss of focus when you dismount a quest mount/vehicle.
The zones where if your all not on the same quest you can't see each other.

The problem I have of staying in the dungeons is that they are the same dungeons I'm going to have to run through to get my reputation up at 80 and if I run them 20x times now I'll be sick of them by 80.
I think it was artfully done in that a solo player probably won't ever notice these changes and xp rates for the solo player are just fine.
But for a game that supposedly supports multiboxing it's getting very anti-boxing.

[Duese]

70-80 is horrible though... I wish Blizz would add some feature to reduce the levelling requirement on accounts that already have a max level toon on in.

Please, god..er... blizzard, don't make leveling any easier than it already is. I don't care what the reason.

Yes, collection quests are harder than kill quests, but remember, you get 5 quest turn ins just for killing 15 mobs instead of 75 mobs if you single boxed them all on non-collection quests. You get multiple credits for kills on "plant the flag in the corpse" crap. You get 5x the gold on group quests for killing one elite that took 2 volleys of lightning bolt instead of the normal one.

It's easy to look and complain about the disadvantages of a situation, but when you take into account the advantages, it's not really as bad as it seems.

One other thing to realize is that even when you single box (this was pre-RAF), a majority of your XP actually got was from mob kills. You "had" to grind during different stages of your leveling despite best efforts to keep up with xp. (Unless you instanced or only lvl'd on rested) Vanilla wow zones didn't have the 100+ quests in them to get xp from. Outland and Northrend are simple just for that fact.

[moji]

They did, sortta, by letting your max level guys buy the 10% XP boost shoulders ( http://www.wowwiki.com/Heirloom ('http://www.wowwiki.com/Heirloom') ) and then mail them to your next group down.
It's not a huge boost, but every bit helps on that long grind to 80.Yeah, I really wish they made more items to buy that had the XP boost. My rogue has the shoulders, trinket and 2 weapons, and my main has about 230 emblems with absolutely nothing left to buy except trade em for gold.

[Clone]

Im really not finding collection quests anywhere near as bad now the interact with target key is in game. Just set slaves on auto loot kill a bunch of mobs then run around spamming interact with target on all the corpses. Sure it takes longer than a kill quest but it doesnt take as long as if you level 5 characters seperately.