View Full Version : New way to make a little extra gold?
Kedash00
04-20-2009, 03:27 PM
i dunno if anyone else has thought of this or done this, but i tried it out last night...
I have all my guys geared up with naxx gear and heroic gear, so regular instances are really, really easy.
So...i went into trade and shot out a message "willing to run anyone through any northrend instance for 200g per run, you keep all loot, can disenchant if needed and you keep all mats"
I got so many tells from people wanting me to run them through stuff, i make like 1k gold in a few hours.... and got to meet some cool people and show them all about multiboxing.
Crucial
04-20-2009, 03:32 PM
What instances did you run most people through? I would think the XP would be terrible at the lower levels with 4 lvl 80 guys running you
Kedash00
04-20-2009, 03:47 PM
most of the lower level instances i ran were for people to finish quests they couldnt find a group for, the higher level instances were people wanting a certain piece of gear, those people were already lvl 80 so xp didn't matter.
Jubber
04-20-2009, 03:48 PM
well he's offering northrend instances so it shouldn't be too bad. People would probably just pay to get the loot they wanted or items to DE.
Edit: Darn he beat me too it. 1 min too late. lol.
Crucial
04-20-2009, 03:54 PM
most of the lower level instances i ran were for people to finish quests they couldnt find a group for, the higher level instances were people wanting a certain piece of gear, those people were already lvl 80 so xp didn't matter.
Gotcha, that's cool. This could even work for helping people with achievements... like running them through molten core :)
Kedash00
04-20-2009, 04:02 PM
ya, i didn't even think about achievments, that's gonna cost those gimps more gold lol...
i thought about offering heroics, but the only bad thing is i can only run those once a day, so i'de have to charge like 25g a badge or something. but i bet some people would pay if they need badges. but that takes alot longer and i can only do a handful of heroics without wiping.
but achievments is a great idea lol, thx
Crucial
04-20-2009, 04:08 PM
ya, i didn't even think about achievments, that's gonna cost those gimps more gold lol...
i thought about offering heroics, but the only bad thing is i can only run those once a day, so i'de have to charge like 25g a badge or something. but i bet some people would pay if they need badges. but that takes alot longer and i can only do a handful of heroics without wiping.
but achievments is a great idea lol, thx
lol np... just remember to send me some of the royalties...haha
Kedash00
04-20-2009, 04:32 PM
lol. sure will
Mercurio
04-20-2009, 07:15 PM
Now that I have at least a handful of Naxx bosses on farm (on two teams), I was thinking about doing this with Naxx runs.
But then I couldn't get guildies in and have fun with them (and they are a big help on some bosses I can't solo), and besides, I can make so much money so quickly with dailies - why bother?
Vmpwraith
04-20-2009, 07:44 PM
This is common in China there are a lot of Raid for cash guilds. They will even run my whole teams through content for gear ect. All i would have to do is stand at the back and let them kill stuff. So far I've not taken them up on the offers beacuse I'm saving for my mounts and my current guild already does ok so I'm already starting to gear up. I guess this is what happens when you dont have the Wotlk expansion yet and most people already have the ubber gear.
I charge 500g an hour to do anything in the game people want to do with the exception of wrath heroics. With people going nuts about achievements it's usually old world content they can't solo or don't realize they can solo, group quests, or twink runs. I usually tell anyone interested to figure out exactly what they want to get done and let me know ahead of time so I can make sure I'm not wasting any more time then necessary. Go out of your way to make these trips smooth and fun for the customer and you will have a ton of clients in no time.
I actually want to try this out but I wanna know how you advertise this kind of service in the trade channel receiving less negative whispers.
heyaz
04-20-2009, 09:11 PM
Dont see how this would be worth the time compared to dallies. Only takes a few hours to do 25 on 5 characters and that's about 1300g. Even if you're lazy, the grizzly hills dallies yield 300g in literally about 5 minutes. Then there's a pretty easy round of Icecrown dallies that will yield another 600g in about 20 minutes.
I think you'd spend more time than that just spamming trade, let alone getting to the instance and doing the run. If you could get them to pay for several runs and be able to clear them in a few minutes, well, maybe it'd be worth it. But still... just hard to beat dallies.
Plus - consider this. If you are letting them keep the loot, you could run your own instances and keep the loot or do a heroic. Given the abyss crystals and the frozen orb, everything else, you're making more than 200g anyway without having to wait for someone to agree to pay you.
I've tried this with twink runs and other low level instances, and people won't pay more than like 20g, because some other bored 80 will do it for less anyway, without even doing the math on how little they're making. I've tried to fill full groups, charge them 20g each, then they complain that I'm making 80g like it's some kind of crime, and some just want the loot so they want a solo run. I just haven't found a way to make this worthwhile.
Dominian
04-21-2009, 01:36 AM
Best gold you can make on the side is buying low and selling high!
If you scan while you eat dinner or take a shower you can easily buy 10-20 items that are underpriced and resell them with a nice profit, and if you cba to do much of the work just buy the REALY good and rare deals.
I earned 2-3k each week after doing this for 2 weeks, but it takes some training thought.
Dailies is without any doubt the best way to make money for a boxer. When i started out clearing all instances with my pve team i earned 5k gold drops and general loot(I guess you could add about 1k in enchanting maths)
On doing around 100 quests in icecrown ive earned 2k gold aka 10k gold (4 boxed) in 12-14 hours. Thats pretty good in my eyes without epic flyers!
elsegundo
04-21-2009, 02:13 AM
i remember Hachoo saying he ran people through Culling for the drake.
Hellraiser
04-21-2009, 04:18 AM
First off, when you want to make big money with the auction-house be sure that you scan the AH pretty often with auctioneer. I was able to make almost 15k gold within a week.
Just invested 2k gold, bought every available damn frostlotus during the week and sold it at friday night. People go nuts for flasks in their raids.
So just scan the AH and be patient for some bargains. Don't bother with dumpers and don't even try to underbid them. Buy their stuff and sell it at your price.
For starters, just try to watch out for frostlotus and arctic fur. Sell them in different stack-sizes. You should be able to gain some nice cash within a few days.
(I'm using different toons to sell the items. So i can upraise my own prices and let the high prices look like bargains.)
When you feel comfortable with this kind of trading, start aiming for higher prices. Take a look at the inscription-cards. Maybe you can buy the cards for the Darkmoon-Cardset: Greatness. (This set runs for about 10k gold @buyout on my server.)
Also, i had fun while farming herbs straight for 2 weeks. Send all the herbs to my inscription-char and made glyphes (and sold the frostlotus). Just had to wait till they announce the release-date. Made every damn glyph 5x and gave them to my trading-char. So i just had to dump all glyphes to the AH a couple of days before that patch.
If you can spare 2k gold to try out trading, just give it a try. (Be aware that your gold also can be lost.)
Currently i would be able buy "Reins of the Traveler's Tundra Mammoth" for my first team. Since my first team isn't 80 yet I save the gold to get them some nice gear.
Caspian
04-21-2009, 01:21 PM
If you can spare 2k gold to try out trading, just give it a try. (Be aware that your gold also can be lost.)
My very first character got burned. Back in July of '05 I took my meager holdings of about 20g at 35 (was actually a lot for the level) and started playing the auction house. I had 146g at level 39. At 40 it was ~100g for my mount. Did I sit on my gold to get my mount? Nope. I got into the Dark Iron ore market. Unfortunately this was at the time the patched DI ore into the world, before it was only in BRD and MC). This obviously made it much easier to obtain and drove the price down. I was stuck with a bunch and only 23 gold when I hit 40. I ended up having to move it to the opposite faction to sell it. I ended up making a profit but it took a week and moving and selling and buying other stuff and moving back and then selling that stuff. Took about a week and a half and level 46 before I got my mount.
It soured me on the whole buy low sell high. It was fun to corner the market in something but I took too big a risk for where I was in the game at the time(life lesson anyone -lol). I also learned that you HAVE to be on top of the market, you have to know as much as possible about what is coming next from blizz and, like any gambling be it stock market or the craps table, do not over extend yourself and put in more money then you can afford to lose or even have unavailable for the short term. You follow those rules and you have a very good chance to be sucessful.
Instance runs are a fun diversion. People on my server regularaly offer up to 50g for SM Cath/Armory runs and Strat UD. 20g for deadmines/sfk/wc. As boxers you can camp an AH toon or two by the AH of your choice and take another toon else to do the run through for any of that. I personally can solo (just my pally) every 5 man through TBC and most of ZG. Doing run throughs, for me, is nostalgic. I loved the challange they were at level. I can do an SM Cath in one pull in 7 minutes. It takes longer to loot it then for me to kill it. I love Strat UD and can do a full clear in about 15 minutes solo, that is skipping a bunch of mobs. Killing everything takes about 25.
Taking a team to do some larger old school stuff making some gold is fun and a nice diversion. I do about 45 minutes to an hour of dailies for 130g (just one toon at this point for me). 5 SM Cath runs for 250g in about an hour, accounting for looting, is more profitable but not as reliable. So doing it might not be as profitable as the AH or even dailies or solo heroics but it is something different and fun to do as a diversion and still brings in some coin.
zanthor
04-21-2009, 01:26 PM
A week or two back I ran Molten Core and BWL with the guild, we had 25 or so players so it was a total gibfest and took about 1 hour total for both... I walked away with over 1200G profit without having looted a single item.
Talamarr
04-21-2009, 01:38 PM
"Playing" the auction house has been a fun diversion for me too. I started off with about 100g on my enchanter / leatherworking toon a couple of weeks ago and I'm up to 5000g on him without any other source of gold; just the AH.
Just to further the comments already made, you really have to pay attention to the market you are in. DE'ing greens and reselling the mats has been a slow but steady income in the AH for me but you have to know which level greens and when to sell. I imagine it varies greatly depending on servers.
I stay away from buying and reselling epics. I was able to do ok on a couple of transactions but it tied up my money for far too long. Turnover is the real key here. Moving your sales as quickly as possible so you can reinvest is what I learned to be the best catalyst for increasing my output.
I wouldn't ever advise anyone to try to corner a market; I'm sure there are plenty of people that have been able to make it work but you really have to hit a particular market at just the right time and that involves a lot of observation and time. It could work really well but like the guy on my server that tried buy out all the frozen orbs, it could end up costing you big. WoW is different than the real world in that commodities are of unlimited supply.
All and all though, I probably spend more time playing the AH, watching markets, performing scans and what not than it would take me to go do a full days worth of dailies. The benefit in my mind is that it is something different. It's an old cliche' but diversification of income sources really is the name of the game.
Crucial
04-21-2009, 01:42 PM
A week or two back I ran Molten Core and BWL with the guild, we had 25 or so players so it was a total gibfest and took about 1 hour total for both... I walked away with over 1200G profit without having looted a single item.
lol nice - were you charging admission? I just 5 boxed MC (1 pally + 4 ele shamans) this sunday and cleared it in about an hour (skipped as much trash as I could) but I don't think I even came close to that amount. I will definitely be running it weekly, just for the hell of it. I did not think I'd be killing ragnaros when I tried it but he went out like a candle... it was a lot of fun and I got the achievement solo which was cool.
Tombs
04-21-2009, 01:45 PM
I'd be cautious playing the buy low sell high game with glyphs. They're dirt cheap to make so if you are competing with someone paying attention they'll re-post 10 more glyphs minutes after to you try to re-sell at a higher price.
hUi33
04-21-2009, 01:50 PM
i remember Hachoo saying he ran people through Culling for the drake. 8| 8| 8| doing it alone with 5 gear char is already so tuff, let alone 4 toons + customer assuming if the customer isn't effective... Anyway Hachoo is a monster :P
Caspian
04-21-2009, 01:52 PM
When I cornered markets it was on smaller ticket stuff. I hit Truesilver and Silver couple of times. back in the day they were fairly rare and were, proportionally, more expensive then they are today. I would never try and hold the market for more then a day or two tops. Something like Frozen Orbs is just crazy. The turn over on them is crazy and the prices can vary wildly. Just this pas week on my server they have been as low as 50g and as high as 125g. Epics always scare me, especially crafted ones.
I just discovered how insanely profitable inscription can be if played right. That, along with the discussion here, might just get me back into the game :D.
Tombs
04-21-2009, 02:21 PM
When I cornered markets it was on smaller ticket stuff. I hit Truesilver and Silver couple of times. back in the day they were fairly rare and were, proportionally, more expensive then they are today. I would never try and hold the market for more then a day or two tops. Something like Frozen Orbs is just crazy. The turn over on them is crazy and the prices can vary wildly. Just this pas week on my server they have been as low as 50g and as high as 125g. Epics always scare me, especially crafted ones.
I just discovered how insanely profitable inscription can be if played right. That, along with the discussion here, might just get me back into the game :D.Inscription can be profitable if you start early and know when to stop. I am selling 3-5k gold worth of glyphs a day, that is all going right back into buying more books.
Back on topic, I tried a lot in BC (solo boxing days) to sell my services as a tank. Tanks were in great demand and I never once got anyone to pay me money for a heroic run. People don't want to pay for something they know they can get for free, convenience almost never factors into the true cost. There isn't a huge demand for normal mode instances, with heirloom items I didn't really care about drops from non-80 instances and when I hit 80 I just started going to heroics.
edit: OP is posting success in doing this, so I guess it can be done. Congrats :)
I was planning to farm Zul'Gurub for the mounts yesterday until I stumbled upon a lvl 64/65 Hunter that wanted to join. He was willing to pay, so thinking back at this topic I asked 100g per boss. Eventually we got the price down to 60g/boss and we did all 8! He was going to loot everything he wanted and I would get any mounts if they'd drop.
This meant 480g for 8 bosses and about 120g for the money drops (about 3g per character per boss), so 600g total! It took me about 90 minutes to do a run, but I feel I can do it in 60 minutes next time.
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