Window management

[Redbeard]

I responded with this question in another post but I will make a fresh one now that I see we have our own game forums (woot i suggested this a while back =P).

What are yall using to manage your windows? I own Keyclone, would love to be able to use that for one primary window and some smaller ones and then use hotkeys to flip between windows, but I havent been successful getting it to work.

Would love to hear what youre using (looking for software boxing, not hardware solutions).

Thanks.

[Thulos]

I use hotkeynet and a simple script to position the windows for me. I do not actually do any key or mouse broadcasting but if I ever decide to fly similar ships with similar setups I very well may switch to setting up everything the same and use key/mouse broadcasting.

[Redbeard]

Thulos,

I will poke around some about HKN and try to figure out how to do this but do you mind sharing your script? I am not looking to do any broadcasting of keys or anything i am just looking for windows management,

Thanks.

Edit: Following some guides on the hk site and i am resizing the window, so thats progress. However, when I do so my mouse is offset. If you look at the pic, my mouse is hovering over Mining director but its highlighting gunnery (so its about 2-3 inches too high.). Hmmm.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2623/mouseoff.jpg

Edit 2: Hm... so i tried just copying the WOW script from the other forum. It seems like Eve is a bit different. When you start it up, it loads one window thats like a splash screen. I can rename that. THen it opens another Window that is the actual game Window.. cant figure out how to rename that 2nd window.

[RobinGBrown]

Couple of things:

I tried using keyclone with EVE a while back and had similar problems with the splash screen and resizing of windows making the mouse offset wrong.

It looks like EVE uses the absolute postion of the mouse so that if you resize the window it's no longer accurate.

You can position windows with scripts - I used AutoIT which is very simple to program - the window name is simply EVE if I recall correctly but you have to wait for the main screen to load before you can work with it

According to the EVE GMs any kind of keyboard/mouse broadcasting is not allowed (there was a thread somewhere about MMOs and their multiboxing stance). EVE doesn't mind you multiboxing but you have to do it the hard way.

I'd suggest grabbing an extra screen if you can, thats what I'm going to do. The other alternative is to hardware multibox and use something like Input Director or Synergy.

[Redbeard]

Ive worked with Rob on this today and have PIP working.. however ive come to the conclusion that I am likely going to play with 1 screen visible. You can set up a window to view your gang members HP, so I can monitor if theyre getting attacked. The PIP lets me quickly switch to the character I need in order to switch targets, empty cargo, etc.

Well see how it goes.

[RobinGBrown]

Let me know how it goes please, I'd like to try a PIP solution with Keyclone as well, it could be pretty good.

[Thulos]

Edit: Following some guides on the hk site and i am resizing the window, so thats progress. However, when I do so my mouse is offset. If you look at the pic, my mouse is hovering over Mining director but its highlighting gunnery (so its about 2-3 inches too high.). Hmmm.
Everytime I tried to get rid of the windows border this happened to me. I just settled for having the windows border and having my move script just put the top border slightly off the top of the screen. I actually use a different key to move each client but it could be setup to do it all in one at the begining of your session. The script is very simple with hotkeynet. I also have a hotkey that resets the windows titles back to normal if I want to reposition the clients. This could be greatly optimized and beefed up but it does what i need for my main client. I typically only run 3 clients so I don't have an positioning on the 2nd computer. I'm a bit lazy and havent bothered fixing it up for running 3 or 4 from one script.

//-----------------------------------------------------------
// CTRL R WILL RENAME EVE client's AFTER MANUAL LAUNCH
//-----------------------------------------------------------
<Hotkey ScrollLockOn Ctrl SHIFT R>
<SendPC local>
<RenameWin "EVE" EV1>
<TargetWin "EV1">
<SetWinPos -3 -26>

<Hotkey ScrollLockOn Ctrl SHIFT T>
<SendPC local>
<RenameWin "EVE" EV2>
<TargetWin "EV2">
<SetWinPos -1683 -26>

<Hotkey ScrollLockOn Ctrl SHIFT Y>
<SendPC local>
<RenameWin "EV2" EVE>
<RenameWin "EV1" EVE>



//This bit is completely unnecessary unless you want to do more stuff after moving them. Such as broadcasting.
//-----------------------------------------------------------
// DEFINE A MAIL LABEL FOR EACH EVE
//-----------------------------------------------------------
<Label w1 Local SendWinM EV1>
<Label w2 Local SendWinM EV2>

[TheHamburglar]

I use Eve Launcher and 2 Moniters, Hasent been updated in a while but works as it should.

http://eve.grismar.net/evelauncher/?page=about ('http://eve.grismar.net/evelauncher/?page=about')





P.S. Wow came back and now there is an eve section awesome.