View Full Version : 5 Boxing Ele Shaman's How far can i get without a tank?
Teamshug
04-07-2009, 03:38 AM
How far along can i get without a tank?
Let me know your personal experiences with this set up, and if you have any demo video's please link :)
Thank you much,
~Teamshug
Siaea
04-07-2009, 05:33 AM
You won't be able to do any WolK dungeons without a tank. I switched out a shammy for a DK and haven't looked back.
dwaine
04-07-2009, 06:43 AM
Thats not entirely accurate. with 5 shammies i was able to do a few of the easyer instances without tank. but it wasnt easy and it took alot of time. basically i was forced to use elementals to tank the bosses and burst them down. BTW I was also not geared at all. Just quest greens and blues.
Note this is for non heroic, there is no way to do heroics without tank.
homerjunior
04-07-2009, 07:03 AM
They are buffing shaman pets in 3.1 and heriocs are alot easier than they were in BC, So in theory it should be easier than in BC
Tizer
04-07-2009, 07:09 AM
Pointless even considering it without a tank. Shit hits hard and has a lot of HPs :o
Zappy
04-07-2009, 02:38 PM
Normal dungeons, no tank needed. I've cleared every normal dungeon with the exception of stratholme with 5 shammys with no problems -- including Occulus. One of these days, I'll go back to Stratholme as I'm sure I can do that one too. As far as heroics, I've only been able to clear Drak'tharon keep. I've farmed that probably at least 20+ times now: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-statistics.xml?r=Hakkar&n=Zappyzap
The mobs hit so hard in heroic that you can usually only take 2-3 hits before you are dead, so the the real key here is having a dedicated macro to heal each character. If you are using /cast [target=targettarget] some heal spell; you willl die. Without it, the boss would switch targets for an instant and when you press your heal key, it will hit the wrong person causing a wipe.
If you are simply farming heroic emblems, I would suggest learning Drak'tharon as that's pretty easy, followed by snake, rhino and eck boss in Gundrak for a quick 7 badges a day. The 1st boss in UT Pinnacle is very easy well. Just keep grounding totems up and go to town. I would imagine the 1st two bosses in UT Keep to not be much of a problem either. My first time in Occulus, I didn't realize I had it set to heroic til after I killed the first boss. I continued on and downed the 2nd boss, but kept wiping on the mage lord, so I went to normal mode to learn the fight. Now that I understand it, I believe heroic Occulus is doable as well as 5 shammys. The 2nd boss was the real challenge here as I had to spread my guys way out and cross my fingers that the earth elementals would taunt the boss off just long enough to get a quick heal off.
However, if you swap one of your shammys out and throw in a tank (I've used a druid, a paladin, and a DK with the DK being the easiest), you'll fly through the heroics with not nearly as much of a learning curve (and repair costs).
I used to be closed-minded and thought no heroics would be possible until some (multiblocks perhaps?) said he cleared Drak'Tharon as 5 eles. To my surprise, it worked quite well and I can clear it just as fast I did when I used my daughter to tank it on her druid.
I plan on retrying in 3.1 where our pets get buffed a little and along with the stoneclaw glyph to see if that makes the difference.
Zappy
04-07-2009, 02:40 PM
I should also mention for the trash, I use focus targets and hex everything I can before each pull.
Catamer
04-07-2009, 02:49 PM
farm up a DK tank, I prefer a pally tank myself but a DK starts at level 55 instead of 1. you might even like doing a 5x DK team anyway.
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