Which is better?

[Terbulous]

Ok, ive read pretty much everything i could around these forums about the x-keys and the nostro N52.

But basically what it all boils down to for what im asking is, which is better?

Should i pick up the N52 from newegg just for the fact its so cheap? or should i drop some cash on the x-keys, because its just that good?

Looking for help on this, i cant really use my G15 keyboard as i thought it would work, (i end up having to bind its keys to other keys on the board)

Thanks

[zanthor]

You can do a lot with the G15 if you use the beta drivers and know how to code in LUA...

[Ghallo]

G15? Heck I got a G11 - comes with 18 extra keys on the side and cost a lot less than the G15 :)

[Terbulous]

G15? Heck I got a G11 - comes with 18 extra keys on the side and cost a lot less than the G15 :)

Ive got the older one, (the one with the 18 keys on the side) and i got it for 40 bucks from newegg on one of their deals a few months ago

[MrLonghair]

I'm getting a G11 for christmas (don't like the design of the new G15), are we allowed to use G11 macros in WoW now? I haven't kept check on G11/G15 events since the days of guys getting bans for it.

[kllrwlf]

Blizz doesn't care of we use the keyboard. They even have a thing going with the LCD on the G15 that shows PVP info and Character info.

What Blizz does care about is having something scripted. Where 1 button does more then 1 action, as it is considered botting.

There's one guy that got banned from using the keyboard, and it's because he had one button attack a mob with a certain sequence, then heal up. He would then select another mob manually, then hit the 1 button again for the entire sequence.

[ivoti]

Blizz doesn't care of we use the keyboard. They even have a thing going with the LCD on the G15 that shows PVP info and Character info.

What Blizz does care about is having something scripted. Where 1 button does more then 1 action, as it is considered botting.

There's one guy that got banned from using the keyboard, and it's because he had one button attack a mob with a certain sequence, then heal up. He would then select another mob manually, then hit the 1 button again for the entire sequence.

So if I had my n52 cast all the totems for my shamans with one keypress that would be considered a violation of the EULA?

[MrLonghair]

Yea, since by their ruleset one pressing of a macro button should equal one cast. Looks like I can bind special things for my alt client easily then with the G keys, but I should be careful not to do too much. Thanks :)

[Kyudo]

I faced the same choice and went with the 52

Very happy so far.

Took me a hell of a long time to decide on a mapping that worked for me, but it's slowly becoming second nature.

Was a real arse to get the drivers working for vista, but got it going in the end.

[Ripper]

I thought about this too. I have a G15, but the N52 and shift states are easier to use for me than the G-keys.

The X-keys...I'm not sure if it'll be better for my setup. It just seems like more G-keys to me. Plus, I'm hooked on controlling movement with the N52 over the keyboard. Can't see myself going back to keyboard movement.

[Ripper]

How do you get used to pressing X-key keys without looking, or do you have to look down at it each time you do? Even better, how do you return your hand to the keyboard WSAD keys without looking? I don't think I could do that!

[caldvn]

How do you get used to pressing X-key keys without looking, or do you have to look down at it each time you do? Even better, how do you return your hand to the keyboard WSAD keys without looking? I don't think I could do that!

Or, rebind your keys to use ESDF, I don't know why people still use WASD, which isn't even where your fingers are supposed to be placed for typing. I feel sorry for people that still think WASD way.

[caldvn]

I think I first used ESDF in Quake. (best.game.ever)

Lot of games stock at WASD, does that mean you should stick that way? Not really, with ESDF, you now have access to additional keys that you wouldn't with WASD. How often are you rebinding keys? Taking a few minutes to setup your keys will save you a lot of trouble in the long run.

- Your left index finger is usually on F, so that pretty much saves you split second or two from repositioning your fingers to type a message.
- You now have access to additional keys, QWRTA

[Wilbur]

The only problem I have with this is my ickle ickle finger. It can reach the shift key but with some difficulty on ESDF. IMHO there is no perfect solultion with a standard keyboard. The only way to effectively do it is to use a completely programmable keyboard. :-(

[caldvn]

Just be glad WoW is much more customizable vs Final Fantasy Online. It took me longer to adapt multiboxing scheme in Final Fantasy than WoW.

My l33t combo timing was perfect in FF. Wish WoW had something similiar!

[MrLonghair]

Logitech G11 dualboxing trip report:
Once you figure out the best way to run the G key binds (so that they activate on the alt client and don't activate anything on the main client in any kind of way) this is the best thing ever. Shaman healbotting main warrior, disc priest supporting main shadowpriest, etc. It's cheap compared to other tools that help multiboxing, so get it. ASAP. Make sure you get the G11/G15 that has 18 G keys, not any dumbed down more modern revision.

[shocktrot]

Or, rebind your keys to use ESDF, I don't know why people still use WASD, which isn't even where your fingers are supposed to be placed for typing. I feel sorry for people that still think WASD way.

Agreed. I've been using ESDF (WR for turning which I rarely use because of mouse movement) since I started playing counterstrike in college. It opens up, Q,A,Z,X,C,V which can then be used when while moving. It also feels much more natural, every time I lose my bindings (redo UI every month or two) I can't do anything until I switch to ESDF.

My bindings are:
1,2,3,4,5,T,Q,A,Z,X,C,V
then Shift and alt variations.
I then use F1-F5 and ctrl variations (for some reason I can't get used to ctrl-1 to ctrl-5).

I was originally thinking of getting XKeys Pro but I'm too used to my current setup. I see if the need comes while mutli-boxing.