LOW FPS

[Raidynxbl]

Im 3-boxing with a optional wow open with my main lvl 80 on that box. But my question is im running the 3 with 50 fps for the main, 20 for the other two boxes. The 4th box i dont open with keyclone i open in manually. Why does it only get 20 fps. Even when I close keyclone out I still am only getting 20 fps on a single wow program. Whats going on here?

[Bot]

are you opening them all from the same folder or separate ones?

if its from the same folder and you open the keyclones first it may be just using the last wow you opened with keyclones fps cap settings. id setup at least 1 extra wow folder and use it for your main only to avoid any confusions.

edit: also your sig is showing only 2gb ram and with 4 wows open you may be maxing that out.

[Akeldema]

slightly off topic but,

Thats One big ass sig.......

[EaTCarbS]

His tower seems a little lackluster to be 5-boxing on.

EDIT: In the RAM, everything else seems ok.

[Kalikiano]

do you get better performance if you use different wow folders for each wow session?

[Bot]

yes well it wont necessarily increase performance but i think if hes using only one folder his saved variables from the 2 slaves might be loading in on his main when he opens it later. if he had 2 folders that wouldnt be an issue. when you load wow instances with keyclone it changes your saved variable settings to whatever you set it to in keyclone ie 50 maxfps on main with 20 maxfps on slaves. so it would be a kinda false increase in performance because its just got a hard cap.

if you load up and type these

/console maxfps 0
/console maxfpsbk 0

it will remove any limits and then see if the fps increases. if it does and you only use 1 wow folder then we've found the culprit.

edit: also i just noticed if i play in windowed mode in vista 64bit im capped to 30 fps but in regular game mode it shoots up to about 70 fps in dalaran. dont know if that matters.

[Gurblash]

You really need 4gb+ ram, 2gb will just not cut it.

This will be your single greatest upgrade at the moment.

[Bot]

Even when I close keyclone out I still am only getting 20 fps on a single wow program. Whats going on here? though the ram is too low for 4 boxing ^this^ i believe may be the key to figuring out the issue. and why i think its the single folder problem and not a hardware upgrade issue per say. but im often wrong :)

[Gurblash]

I ran single folder while I was 5 boxing on my laptop and it was never an issue.

[Gurblash]

Even when I close keyclone out I still am only getting 20 fps on a single wow program. Whats going on here? This happens because you've possibly set your maxfps to 20?

[Bot]

thats what im saying. that may be a possibility. thats why i suggested the console commands :) if it dont work then and even if it does i would also suggest ram upgrade.

[Raidynxbl]

My rams fine ive never had a problem 4 boxing. Matter fact I was running 5 boxes at the same time with 50 fps on each box. So its not the graphics card or my ram. Last night before I shut down my comp I went and redone the maxfps max background fps to 70 and my main ran fine. I think is was just the variables it fixed it anyways. But on another note Im upgrading to 4gb ram and another xfx 285 video card and another processor. On another note again I run far cry 2 and crisis max settings with no problems and at 40 to 50fps on those games. They are a lot more graphic intensive then wow is.

[Gurblash]

Matter fact I was running 5 boxes at the same time with 50 fps on each box

I'm callin bullshit right here... unless you've got a SS to prove it I find it impossible to believe you can run 5 wows with 2gb ram each getting 50fps.

[Raidynxbl]

Ill have a screen shot upload in a few mins then

[Raidynxbl]

Heres proof that im not Bullshitting you. The fps on the bigger screens are around 40 ish and do hit 50 and stay thier. The other screens where 50 constantly. If you can see the fps. Call bullshit now! http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m86/Raidyn/fps.jpg

[Gurblash]

http://www.nuk3.com/gallery/images/comedy/full/108.jpg

[Raidynxbl]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7661/fpsm.jpg

[Raidynxbl]

YEah you might have to zoom in on the smaller windows buddy but thiers your proof. Guess your assumption was wrong huh! Im running dual monitors by the way .

[Gurblash]

43.9 != 50 imo.

[Raidynxbl]

Damn dude whats your prob you said i couldnt get 50. It hovers from 40 to 50 on my 2 main toons. On my other 3 its at constant 50 fps. So 50 isnt feasable huh. Your not on my comp and you dont see what it runs. Honestly it sound like your a little jealous or something. Your making a big deal over 6.1 fps. Wow he can get 43.9 but he cant get 50 fps. What a tool lol!

[Zappy]

...But on another note Im upgrading to 4gb ram and another xfx 285 video card and another processor...

The extra memory will help a lot. I hope you aren't buying another video card for wow as it doesn't utilize SLI in any way. You'll actually see lower peformance with it enabled.

[Raidynxbl]

No im not just getting it for WoW. Yeah sli doesnt work with wow good anyways. I do CAD so I actually do need it for that but all my other games get the bonus of having it. I play farcry and crisis to. I did play GoW but not anymore.

[keyclone]

btw, since you are bouncing between 43 and 50, that's an indicator to me that you are at the top of your fps for your current rig.

if you set your maxfpsbk to 30, then you'd get a solid (ish) 50 on your active wow. this is due to saving some fps on your alt screens... saving gpu/cpu for your active screen.

also, it is a good idea to not be at 100% cpu/gpu as your system won't handle and onslaught of new data very well.

and you should also run under 80% physical memory use. somewhere over 80% and your system will start to thrash to disk. here's a way to figure it:

winXP(500M) or vista(750M)
wow(500M) * 5 == 2.5g

roughly 3g

X * 0.80 = 3g
X == 3.75 g minimum

so, about 4g of memory and you shouldn't thrash very often (i run 8g and its awesome)

[daviddoran]

I think the issue here is that you might have set the max fps in keyclone to 20 FPS for the slaves, and keyclone does this by modifying a wtf file. If you load the slaves, then the master in keyclone (just put the "main" last in the command) then manually run wow, it will use the same fps settings as the keyclone main. But I'd just start running your extra wow from keyclone anyway, so u can make damn sure the FPS settings/username/resolution etc are correct.

And yeah, get that ram ASAP. Hell when my company builds PCs for end users doing office work we put 4 GB in, just because its relatively inexpensive, and helps eliminate potential problems. If you do CAD, I'd seriously consider upgrading to 64 bit and going 8GB +

[Raidynxbl]

Yeah thanks. I was just doing the 50 fps to prove to gurblash that my system was capable of doing it with 2gb of ram. My physical memory doesnt even hit 30%. I monitored it for about 10 mins playing WoW to see how high it got with 5 boxes open. The highest it got was 26%. Which Im really amazed that it didnt get higher. Yeah I am looking into building a new system just for my CAD. My boss said since I work from home the company will pay for it a % of it so lol yeah. Thanks for the help!

[EaTCarbS]

for azeroth 2g ram might cut it, but once you get to outland and northrend you will notice the difference. Also, framerates will increase when staring at a wall in an instance :P

[Gurblash]

hehe I didn't want to say it but yea :) well played EaTCarbS. Would love to see 2g with 5 in Dalaran ... rofl.

[Raidynxbl]

I dont know i get a constant 40-50 fps in orgrimmar on a busy night. But i did run out the other day and get 2gb of ram for my comp and its still runs fine. Havent noticed any big difference yet except the 120 bucks it costed me to get the ram.

[mikekim]

also you might want to set the cpu affinity in the config.wtf and the core affinity on each instance of keyclone and max and minumum fps settings