[EQ2] Khatovar, Frosty and others.... You really did it now! (plus some EQ2 tidbits)

[moosejaw]

You made me reactivate my EQ2 account.



I 6 - 8 boxed in EQ previously (L70 cap) but only tried EQ2 on one of those accounts. So I logged in last night to see if my L10 healer was still there after several years. So my L10 Warden is safe and sound on the Befallen server. I have the unhappy X appended due to server merges (I suppose) but otherwise everything seems to be intact. I guess I will play this character for a while to get used to the game mechanics and see if I can get to like it. Then I will utilize RAF and fire up more accounts.

I stopped my Wow subscriptions last night because I am really getting worn out playing it. I really liked the EQ playstyle (minus the grinding) and I think I will have lots of fun once I am up to speed.

[Khatovar]

*laughs* Welcome back! Let us know if you find any nice tricks or sites ;)

[Frosty]

Don't blame me.. it was other kids. :whistling:

[Captive]

Add me to the list of "victims" :) I re-activated my two dormant EQ2 accounts last week and added 4 more after reading all the good info here. Thanks to all of you who've patiently answered questions, provided advice, etc. I'll write more in another post, but I'm having a blast playing again. Glad to see others feeling the same way :)

[moosejaw]

Don't blame me.. it was other kids. :whistling:Oh yeah, Noxxy, you are also to blame!!!

[Kaelika]

Well, multi-boxing EQ2 appears to be the "cool" thing to do now, huh? ;) I find it ironic that I decided to reactivate my accounts just days before this forum was inundated with EQ2-related posts. This only helped to reaffirm my decision to leave WoW even more so.

[moosejaw]

I wouldn't say it is the in thing but sometimes a person needs a change of scenery, to start over perhaps. EQ2 seems logical for me (and a bit nostalgic at the same time) since much of the lore is similar to eq.

I gathered up my Wow resources last night and I have 56k gold plus a crap ton of mats I am going to auction off.

On a different note. I only have 2 L10's in EQ2 so I am not losing anything by deleting them, is there a server of choice where folks are gathering? It would makes sense to merge some boxers together for guild hall benefits, correct?

[Frosty]

On a different note. I only have 2 L10's in EQ2 so I am not losing anything by deleting them, is there a server of choice where folks are gathering? It would makes sense to merge some boxers together for guild hall benefits, correct? I'd be up for the guild thing...as long as everyone was cool with my constant kid-agro-AFK's.
I'm on Nektulos right now with a 27ish group.

[Khatovar]

It think most everyone is on Nek. I'm on LdL.

I played EQ2 for over a year between vanilla WoW and BC. We'd been discussing what game to play for a few months, and the biggest drawback was trying to find what we can multibox. There's almost no info out there for the Turbine games I wanted to play and my husband and I already had a 70 tank and healer {and almost all tradeskills @70} in EQ2 so we figured we'd get more out of going back than starting over someplace else. I knew EQ2 could be boxxed and we have the option of upgrading to a Station Pass to play/box Vanguard and EQ when we're bored with EQ2, so it was kind of a no-brainer.

[moosejaw]

On a different note. I only have 2 L10's in EQ2 so I am not losing anything by deleting them, is there a server of choice where folks are gathering? It would makes sense to merge some boxers together for guild hall benefits, correct? I'd be up for the guild thing...as long as everyone was cool with my constant kid-agro-AFK's.
I'm on Nektulos right now with a 27ish group.
Replying to this post also. I have a DE Necro on Nektulos now (levels just fly by) named Slowdust. I have limited play time in the late afternoon till this weekend. Friend me and shout out if you see me or put up a guild recruit message on an active team member so I can contact you.

Thanks.

[Kaelika]

I wouldn't say it is the in thing but sometimes a person needs a change of scenery, to start over perhaps. EQ2 seems logical for me (and a bit nostalgic at the same time) since much of the lore is similar to eq.
I was being a bit sarcastic, actually, which is why I included the ";)" emoticon.

My first brush with anything Norrath-related was Champions of Norrath on the PS2. After playing it, I wanted to try EQ1 so badly, but was never able to, so EQ2 is a bit nostalgic in my case also, particularly the EoF expansion.

LDL was the server I played on at launch, but I've recently been playing on Kithicor. However, due to my friend's erratic play-schedule (we often play very early in the morning/EST timezone), I don't see us being able to collaborate with a guild in any way, unfortunately.

[moosejaw]

I know you were being sarcastic, I wanted the other folks who cruise through here to understand the whys and wheres. 8)



I work rotating shift work so from one week to the next I have different play times. I am on days (6a-2p) right now till friday, then I get my long weekend (4 days). I then start up evening/afternoon shift (2p-10p) for 6 days, have 48 hours off then start up nights (10p-6a) for 7 days. It is all on a 28 day repeating cycle so you can see how hard it is to keep a regular raid schedule for me.

My schedule doesn't preclude joining a guild at all. I think it would be fun to see how many amenities a small boxer guild could gain without being hard core. :D

[Kaelika]

My schedule doesn't preclude joining a guild at all. I think it would be fun to see how many amenities a small boxer guild could gain without being hard core. :DWell, I'll at least broach the subject with my friend and see what he thinks. If you guys actually end up forming a guild over there, I think that I could entice my friend into rerolling on Nek. It might be kind of fun since every guild I've ever been in just treated me like the black sheep of the guild due to my multi-boxing, so being with other multi-boxers would be a nice change of pace.

But, as I said, we're online at some very odd times.

[Lyonheart]

I had several toons on BB server before I started dabbling around in EQ2 again. I had enough money on my old toons that It was easy to buy starting stuff like bags ect. However, i am in favor of a guild for the guild benefits EQ2 offers and to occasionally have people to chat with. SO I will roll a team there soon and look you guys up for sure 8)

I have not left WoW, I still enjoy the game and am looking forward to the patch. But EQ2 is growing on me every time I play it, and as I learn to play it again, it gets even more fun.

[moosejaw]

Heck, I don't expect to do alot of group activities guild wise. It would/could be a great place to spread info and support each other. Like I said I play at all times at some point during my 28 day work cycle so I will see everyone at some point. :P

During my last days in EQ my guild consisted of 4 people and 2 of them were 60+ yrs. It helped that we were on similar work schedules though. I would box as many as needed to fill the group up and we would do Wall of Slaughter for as long as we could take it. :P It was fun enough trying not to pull the shadowstalker by accident (loved the bard for this reason).

I need to level up my solo character a bit before I am ready to start boxing. I didn't play very much at initial launch and it took me forever to get L10 then. I did L10 in a few hours on the Necro so getting familiar shouldn't take too long.

How does the in game chat sound? Is it as bad as Wow voice chat? I know someone else said they had a vent on Nektulos so I guess It may not be so good.

[Herc130]

I have been tempted to try EQ2 again for a while, but have held back. Still 10 boxing EQ1 and raiding with the guild. I think if I wasn't in the guild, I'd just stop playing EQ1. Even when brand new expansions release, I still think nothing is new. All the brand new zones I haven't been to before are just more of the same to me. Been playing the game too long.

[Frosty]

On a different note. I only have 2 L10's in EQ2 so I am not losing anything by deleting them, is there a server of choice where folks are gathering? It would makes sense to merge some boxers together for guild hall benefits, correct? I'd be up for the guild thing...as long as everyone was cool with my constant kid-agro-AFK's.
I'm on Nektulos right now with a 27ish group.
Replying to this post also. I have a DE Necro on Nektulos now (levels just fly by) named Slowdust. I have limited play time in the late afternoon till this weekend. Friend me and shout out if you see me or put up a guild recruit message on an active team member so I can contact you.

Thanks.



I /friend'ed ya, but didn't see you on.. I got a break and was on a little early today. I doubt I will see you during your play times though.. although I do get up very early..so maybe I could sneak on in the morning and check. What time zone are you in?

Did you want to use my guild <Disinclined to Acquiesce> ? I don't mind at all, as long as I don't have to be responsible for organizing stuff..cause I'm a slacker! :P

But I'm not that attached to it either if we decide to just create a new one?





Heck, I don't expect to do alot of group activities guild wise. It would/could be a great place to spread info and support each other. Like I said I play at all times at some point during my 28 day work cycle so I will see everyone at some point.
Sounds like my playstyle!

[Frosty]

Oh yeah...my guild is Good Aligned..not sure what would be the best option for everyone.

[moosejaw]

Oh yeah...my guild is Good Aligned..not sure what would be the best option for everyone.I believe alignment is a non-factor for guilds. Just no meet ups in Freeport for you. :D

I made the Necro for fun and learning. I have a group mapped out that is good aligned though.

I am central US time zone.

Edit: I am still working the auction house in WOW trying to unload more stuff. I will be on eq in a few short minutes.

[Frosty]

Logged back in just now to check, but didn't see ya. :P

[Khatovar]

Moosejaw - holy hell, that schedual sucks! I though being third shift sucked, but being every shift is horrible. How do you EVER sleep?


I think it would be fun to see how many amenities a small boxer guild could gain without being hard core.

I'm creeping up on my guildhall, slowly, slowly, slowly. GL25 or 26 now. It'd go faster, but I keep getting distracted by things like the damned findadeath website and getting our new entertainment center set up. :whistling:

Alignment doesn't effect your guild. Just a matter of getting them there once, I think. Then you can call to the guild hall if you have the bell or whatever from my understanding. Very easy with recruit-a-friend and GoTo :p

[Frosty]

Alignment doesn't effect your guild. Just a matter of getting them there once, I think. Then you can call to the guild hall if you have the bell or whatever from my understanding. Very easy with recruit-a-friend and GoTo :p

Good point about the recruit-a-friend! Too bad it runs out.. :S

I caught Moosejaw on this morning and got the guild invite out. So if anyone else wants in, try to catch one of us, or let us know here to watch for you.

And if I need to change some options/settings in the guild interface to make things easier/better, let me know..

[moosejaw]

Yep, Frosty caught me alright. ;)

A note about the guild hall for beginners like me. You can join any guild you choose (evil or good) but if the guild leader purchases the guild hall in a city of opposite faction to you, it will take some work to get there the first time. lol

EQ2 wikia gives a good guide for guild halls ('http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Guild_Halls'). So I have to work a bit for my Dark Elf to get to the Guild Hall but no it is no sweat. My planned out team is good aligned. More to come.

[Frosty]

A note about the guild hall for beginners like me. You can join any guild you choose (evil or good) but if the guild leader purchases the guild hall in a city of opposite faction to you, it will take some work to get there the first time. lol

EQ2 wikia gives a good guide for guild halls. So I have to work a bit for my Dark Elf to get to the Guild Hall but no it is no sweat. My planned out team is good aligned. More to come. Pft, beginners like me too. :P

I'll have to take a look at that guide tonight.
I think Noxxy or Khatovar mentioned in one post that the city guards are only a certain level and once you go past that, they won't attack.

But, don't quote me on that..cause I've been drinking a LOT of coffee and I could just be making things up.

[moosejaw]

When I start up the raf I'll just warp the DE to the guild hall entrance. :P

About the raf. I am going to daisy chain my raf's so each account will get a mount except the last one. :(

Current account recruits #2. #2 sets up raf and then subscribes. #2 recruits #3 and so on. The recruiter gets the mount so the last account will not have a mount reward... :(

Another observation. After doing the starter quests to L10 in the DE starter area I have 4 times the coin I had from doing the Qeynos start area. I remember there being more quests in the qeynos suburbs after leaving the island but it just seems weird. I suppose 4x 1 copper is only 4 copper but I have 1 gold already which seems like a lot compared to the other toons.

[Frosty]

About the raf. I am going to daisy chain my raf's so each account will get a mount except the last one.

Current account recruits #2. #2 sets up raf and then subscribes. #2 recruits #3 and so on. The recruiter gets the mount so the last account will not have a mount reward...
That's how I did it. To get the last mount I just paid the extra $20 for another account..then canceled it.
I'm not too crazy about the normal horse looking mounts, but the nightmare looking ones are pretty sweet. I'm almost willing to pay for another RAF account to replace the normal mount I got for my main account.




Another observation. After doing the starter quests to L10 in the DE starter area I have 4 times the coin I had from doing the Qeynos start area. I remember there being more quests in the qeynos suburbs after leaving the island but it just seems weird. I suppose 4x 1 copper is only 4 copper but I have 1 gold already which seems like a lot compared to the other toons.
I haven't found a lot I need to spend money on yet. I've paid for a few Adept spell upgrades but that's it.

[moosejaw]

I bought some bags on the Necro so I could gather more materials. The bag vendor in the start area had cheaper bags than what was on the broker. I am starting to figure out what is vendor trash and what is not.

Interesting how Neriak is almost exactly the way I remember it in EQ. Kinda cool that way. I like the crafting system. Crafting makes you stay on your toes at the keyboard, no more afk while you make 200 frostweave cloth.

I have to finish setting up ISBoxer today after I get in my bicycle ride. Cya later today Frosty.

[Frosty]

no more afk while you make 200 frostweave cloth. And no more 200 frostweave cloth for 2 skillup points! :P

[Ellay]

I too and my rl friends have become somewhat bored of WoW lately and also am looking into other multibox options to saturate my tastes. EQ2 looks promising :) will be looking more into it. Will all the posting it's getting, may warrant it's own forum.

[moosejaw]

I too and my rl friends have become somewhat bored of WoW lately and also am looking into other multibox options to saturate my tastes. EQ2 looks promising :) will be looking more into it. Will all the posting it's getting, may warrant it's own forum. :love:

[moosejaw]

I wanted to follow up on my initial impressions of EQ2 regarding gameplay/hardware/software. Currently my 6 box group is L20 with 14aa's after about 3 days of raf play.

Gameplay: Enough has been stated about endgame so I want to address general gameplay. The game is very boxable regardless of group size. I have only encountered one quest that I couldn't share (1-20) and that includes all quest chain steps. Collection quests are a non factor. Most of them are guaranteed drop, the rare drop type are not really that rare and are relatively painless. Collection quest items are auto looted (no action on your part) and don't take up bag space. You will see an on screen message similar to a raid warning that the mob either did or did not drop what you needed. Yes, they tell you if you didn't find a quest item. :thumbup:

Quest givers are visible from a distance before they ever show up on the minimap. There is a nice glow around the feather over their head that can been seen well, even on low graphics. There are tons of quest starter items available as drops from mobs. These are usually kill quests and are repeatable by getting the drop again after completing the quest. Some quests require looting items from mobs (gnoll language quest is one). Lets say there is a quest item on a mob that you (master character) don't need but a slave does. You will see the loot icon (tiny treasure chest) when you hover over the mob but when you try to loot it you will get a chat message that there isn't any loot on this mob for you. Since mob corpses disappear very quickly, this helps prevent missing important quest loot. When clearing out an area, you really clear it out so an unlooted mob will stand out so you don't miss any loot.

Moving around and following has its ups and downs. The follow is nearly unbreakable, even in combat, and has a very long range. You can use your turn left and right while on follow if you are stuck on an obstacle (it acts like a strafe) to catch up. Yet follow has its limitations such as going up stairs or tight passages with turns. The follow has a somewhat long leash which is awesome in combat because your tank is free to move around a bit while your group/blob stays in place on follow. Speaking of combat, casters need not face the target to cast spells on them. Let me repeat. Casters do not need to face the target to cast spells on them. Melee positioning in combat is a little funky right now so I will skip that. When entering combat with the tank/melee, the tank/melee will leash to the mob and your movement controls will work a little differently but the leashing helps you when used with '/autoattack 1' to autoface the face the mob.

Hardware/Software: EQ2 is not Wow and requires more resources. The fact that I can not find a way to disable the sound on the slaves hurts. Hardware sound doesn't work right now because EAX is broken when used with EQ2 and more than instance. This means that all sound is software rendered and there isn't a toggle in sound options to turn of in game sound just volume sliders to work with. That said, my system is a 3.0ghz Q6600 8gb ram HD4870 1gb video with all instances displayed on one monitor (2 monitor setup though). Six instances of EQ2 brings this system to its knees. Core 0,1, 2 are about 60-70% while #4 stays maxxed. I use Innerspace in conjunction with ISBoxer for EQ2. All the game instances are spread across all cores for load balancing but I might try to adjust that for Core 3. The game is playable with normal 20-30 fps on the master slaves locked at 15 fps. Busy areas ( cities) will drop the main to 10 fps and it feels a little sketchy but is still fine to play. Low fps is where the follow system really shines, I haven't lost a follower at low fps yet.

I think an upgrade to an I7 based system is in order for my boxing needs. My components are good except for the processor bottle neck. My current system will be turned into a HTPC.

Combat/Macros: Utilizing Khatovars macro guide and overlapping keys between characters makes combat easier. The macro system is simple yet powerfull. Implied targeting for hostile/friendly spells makes landing heals or nukes super easy, just use one assist button on the slaves to get the target (not including special assists for CC). Tossing a heal gets the mobs target, firing a nuke lands on your target (if hostile) and just reverse it if you have a friendly targeted. This keeps your mind on your tank control and makes healing a snap.



Enough rambling for now.

[Crayonbox]

Damn it! Why are you guys all on nektulos server? Antonia Bayle is by far more populated! Come here! haha

[moosejaw]

:D

I asked around before I rolled and it seemed that Nektulos was the popular server. Khat was the only one on AB then. Now all you necro players show up!! :rolleyes:

I think there is going to be many people joining up soon so spreading out the boxers shouldn't hurt. Heck with a raid limit of 24 (?) and 2 group content it shouldn't take much to get rolling now. We just have to level and get geared. ^^

[Crayonbox]

Honestly, gear isnt a big problem until you get to level cap. The best gear at your level and anywhere near your level is almost always the mastercrafted gear. everything else pretty much pales.

and more people for AB!

[Frosty]

Level 20!!! I'm logging in now to level! :P

[moosejaw]

Honestly, gear isnt a big problem until you get to level cap. The best gear at your level and anywhere near your level is almost always the mastercrafted gear. everything else pretty much pales.

and more people for AB!Yeah I meant Level cap gearing. No illusions of buying crafted gear right now and I don't have an armor crafter. :)

[Khatovar]

I'm on the other RP server, Lucan D'Lere. There was someone else on AB, though.


I have only encountered one quest that I couldn't share (1-20) and that includes all quest chain steps

One thing I want to point out about sharable quests...in WoW, if a quest gave you an item to use, you can be sure it wasn't sharable. In EQ2, quests that have use items are almost always sharable and sharing it gives the item to everyone who accepts the quest! I can't tell you how much I adore that. Esepcially if you somehow screw up and blow your charges. You can just drop the quest on the one and re-share to get a fully charged item. It is the love for multiboxers. Deleting quests with items will also remove the item from your inventory, so if you drop a grey quest or something, you don't have to dig through your bags to find the item and destroy it.

Writs, however, are not sharable after you do it once. Same with repeatable faction quests.

Also, something to look toward in the future. Once your strength gets up, you can switch to carrying boxes instead of bags. It's a biiiig tradeoff, since boxes weigh 100 each and have no weight reduction vs bags that weigh 5 and have a lot of weight reduction, but the high-end box has 36 slots ('http://eq2.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=27775&menustr=080020140000') vs the bag's 24 ('http://eq2.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=27944&menustr=080020220000'). My husband carries a few boxes since he has high strength on his tank, but I carry only 2 since I have low strength on my fury {I've yet to get around to kitting out my containers on my team}. It's easier to do with a boxed group, though, since you generally get a STR buff somewhere from your group. Just beware if you have to call your toons back to different locations. If you lose your STR buff, you can get encumbered and movement will slow to a crawl.

[Crayonbox]

Don't know what to tell you if youre 20. If you're under I would have told you to go do the TD quests because the armor rewards are vastly superior to any others.
Also since you are multiboxing, find a nice zone to camp names in.
I farmed stormhold, wc, and fg for the longest times farming master books to sell. I ended up with more than enough money to gear my guys out with the best gear.

fyi: 1 scout is amazing. Tracking is a life saver for so many things.

[Herc130]

TD diffinently the way to go. Newbie gear is a bit better and the quest line is pretty straight forward and easy to box through. I like good better then evil, so I always start all my toons out in Qeynos newbie island. I do the first 3 or 4 quest there and level up to around 4 and a half and then head over to TD. I usually just ding lvl 10 right when I am offered the first lvl10 quest (only killing mobs for quest line) and then I turn quest exp. off so that now any quest I complete only goes towards AA's. Even so, I thought I was still leveling too fast. Soloed my guardian to lvl15 with 11AA's before I activated my other accounts. I had to modify that guardians name, because some jerk had stolen my name!!! Once I activated one of my old accounts.....I realized I was that jerk lol. So, I started my guardian over with the name I wanted. All still only lvl10 and at TD on AB server. Still trying to figure out how best to set-up my hotkeys and xkeys. I don't know if boxing on an over crowded server will be easy, as when I box in EQ1, I usually dominate an area....whcih was no problem, because most areas are compltetely unused. But I like seeing people running all around me and I don't always box. Also, if you plan on raiding, try to make your tank your one toon you raid with. I know boxers that are raid tanks as their mains and their box team kicks ass, just bcecause their tank are tremendously overpowered compared to the rest of their boxes. Doesn't work too well the other way around. An overpowered healer is still limited to how well a tank tanks. A rogue with uber gear, crazy ass daggers and every DPS AA you can think off....will be the tank in a box team with a weak tank, because to not pull agro off the poorly geared tank, I'd have to be doing nothing through a good portion of the fight. There is a balance for tank (survivability and keeping agro off your other boxes), healer and DPS, but that balance is skewed seriouly towards the tank. In EQ1, a lvl44 cleric ( when they get complete heal) can keep a lvl 85 warrior up in some lvl80+ contents, but no way in hell will even a team of lvl85 clerics keep one lvl44 warrior up in lvl80+ content.......without the clerics becoming the tank themselves and assuming the lvl44 tank doesn't get one rounded...which you cannot heal through. I think EQ2 is the same way. So yah, make sure you keep feeding upgrades to your tank first.

[Crayonbox]

As far as I can tell, EQ2 is the same way. Fights are far easier when my tank upgrades his gear.

[Noxxy]

Totally agree with both Herc and Crayon - all plats$$$ and first dibs at the loot goes straight to the tank, other group members come a distant second


I usually dominate an area....
Yes...with a 6 boxing team you will dominate some, if not all, dungeons - as your starting off, the dungeons you will wtfpwn pretty much now till whenever are WC / BB / SH / FG - as a matter of fact, pretty much all public dungeons ('http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeon_Timeline') - and - tbth - this will continue all the way up to places like karnor's castle where an organised 6 man can basically pillage all the names in very little time

Just on that point - I 'always' make a point of doing a /who as soon I zone into a dungeon - if there already is a full group in the zone, there's a good chance you'll be competing for names - in times like this, a scout is a necessity as tracking, combined with smuggle, is very very uber

[Crayonbox]

track makes life so much easier. and there is one lesson that wowers coming to eq need to learn.

KILL PLACE HOLDERS!

Often people only kill mobs they need for quest and skip anything else they dont need. This creates an entire area of place holders and 1 or 2 spawns spawning your quest mob making it feel like your quest update is super rare. Its usually not.
also for name spawns, kill the place holders that spawn where a name should be. especially in dungeons.

[Frosty]

kill the place holders that spawn where a name should be.
I just kill everything even if it's not a place holder.

And on that note, what is the best way to have the tank pull a group of mobs?
I was killing some heroic gnolls last night...and it didn't seem to matter what I did, I would get entire rooms of mobs.
When I targetted 1, I would see them in a pack of 3 most of the time. So they didn't seem to be all linked.

It was VERY fun, but I know I won't be able to tank 12 heroic mobs forever.

I've tried pulling with Taunts and bows so far.

OH and also DING our guild is level 4 /flex. :P

[Herc130]

For EQ1, I use to fade pull with my bard or feign death pull with my SK or my enchanter would cast calm spells on things my mainassist targets and I could calm usually 5 or 6 targets before the first calm spell starts wearing off. I don't know if bards can even fade in EQ2 and I don't know if FD is the same mechanics in EQ2, but I do know my templer has a "soothe" spell and it reads as a calm spell to me. "Reduces awareness of enemies", so I assume if I cast it on mobs that are normally in agro range of each other, then once this spell is casted on em, their agro range will be severely cut down and you should be able to pull other mobs around them without the mob you casted soothe on agroing durring the duration of the spell and it's a non agro spell unless resisted. Which is why I always used my enchanter instead of my cleric (cleric also gets a soothe spell in EQ1), but I don't see a similar spell in my illusionist spellbook, yet. At what point do mobs start doing social agro in EQ2? I thought they only agro via linked mobs, but with a soothe spell in my templers spellbook....I guess eventually the mobs become social agro.

[Crayonbox]

There is no need for FD pulling. If you use a combat art to pull, youll pull extra social mobs. The best way to pull mobs that are in clusters is to body pull.
If you body agro one group standing next to another, youll only pull the group that you body agro.

[Frosty]

Just so I have it right, by body pull, I'm assuming you mean to just get close to them until they agro?

I know a few of my toons have some sort of "soothe", but I haven't messed with it.

[moosejaw]

Now it is coming back to me. Pulling with a damaging spell or ability in EQ1 would put a aggro circle out equal to your aggro range which would sometimes be real bad. I guess the same mechanic was kept in EQ2. I will have to test this tonight in BlackBurrow with some large rooms. I guess wow spoiled me with the small aggro range. :P

Going to adjust the thread title a little bit.

[Noxxy]

Now it is coming back to me. Pulling with a damaging spell or ability in EQ1 would put a aggro circle out equal to your aggro range which would sometimes be real bad. I guess the same mechanic was kept in EQ2.
Exactly - when body pulling - don't even go into autoattack as even an AAtk swing can cause surrounding mobs to be social - pulling with a bow or spell is just asking for trouble in some dungeons - I have also noticed that simple procs like spores ('http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Regenerating_Spores')can cause mobs to be social as well

In BB with the gnolls, your fine, higher up - won't be a good look

Be aware also that the geometry in some dungeons is pretty primative in that fire off a lose AOE and your bound to pull stuff through walls causing all sorts of trouble

If you have a brawler for a MT, you can FD pull, just make sure you tag the mob you want to keep after the FD

Soothe is a quick way to get around a dungeon if you don't have something like smuggle or group invis - basically, your charging along, see a roamer coming towards you, fire off a soothe, run past it /rinse reapt till you get to where you want to be

[Herc130]

Soothe is a quick way to get around a dungeon if you don't have something like smuggle or group invis - basically, your charging along, see a roamer coming towards you, fire off a soothe, run past it /rinse reapt till you get to where you want to be

Humans get a racial trait at lvl10 called diplomacy. It is an AoE (up to 5 mobs) soothe ability, only last for 20 seconds, but if your tank is human it is a nice pulling tool to have. I opted for this racial trait, but haven't been able to test it out since I don't know of any social agro mobs where I am at, but what I get off the chat channels is that it does work as I am expecting.. It's what I alwys used in EQ1 if the mobs were low level enough (except it was calm in EQ1) and have heard of chanters/clerics using it to run through dungeons filled with mobs that saw invis and invis to undead, although I never used it in that manner.

[Frosty]

I have been guild leader of <Pain for Glory> on Nektulos for a couple years now. We have the biggest guild hall possible, and my peeps are boxer friendly. All here are welcome to join, if you don't find one of my toons on, ask anyone in that guild to invite you, just say your a friend of Less's and you should get an invite.

http://pfg.guildportal.com/I like your guild rules. :P

[Khatovar]

LoL, looks like our guild rules from WoW. I think we had "Don't be a d***," listed several times.

[moosejaw]

LoL, looks like our guild rules from WoW. I think we had "Don't be a d***," listed several times.

:thumbup:



Btw, I am having a blast at L20. Blackburrow has helped me work out a lot of issues with my command and control.