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Yetiman
03-26-2009, 08:11 AM
Hi all, forgive me if I have missed the FAQ or anything that explains this, but I am looking to Multibox 3-4 accounts, is this 100% legit? What is the best add on for it, I see there is one on the main page but also another one?

Is this really allowed? I want to do this but really do not want to get banned :(

Thanks :)

Coltimar
03-26-2009, 08:17 AM
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SilverSlice
03-26-2009, 08:32 AM
do you see 1000 angry multiboxers nope you dont.
you see 1000+ happy perhaps insain but still happy boxers so its still blizzard approved to have fun with multiply perssonality's? hmm i ment characters

Silver

Frosty
03-26-2009, 08:38 AM
Hi all, forgive me if I have missed the FAQ or anything that explains this, but I am looking to Multibox 3-4 accounts, is this 100% legit? What is the best add on for it, I see there is one on the main page but also another one?

Is this really allowed? I want to do this but really do not want to get banned :(

Thanks :)
Just to make sure...what game are you wanting to multi-box?

Khatovar has a great post going in another thread:
MB & Current MMOs ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=20410')

IF any mods read this, you might want to take a look and sticky it. :D

Yetiman
03-26-2009, 08:40 AM
Thank you all for your quick replies. I read the Wiki and some great information in there, I did not realize the wiki would contain that!

World of warcraft is the game I will be playing...

From what I see a lot can be done with it - but I cant see how I could say tank and heal and DPS in a heroic or an instance? I understand I would have to have the most used spells on certain key numbers etc, but can I set the tank to focus on 1 mob the healer to focus on the tank and the DPS on another? I know this is going OT but don't want to make a million and one threads. Very interesting Concept. I have been basic multi boxing for years and this will make life so much easier :)

zanthor
03-26-2009, 08:46 AM
Thank you all for your quick replies. I read the Wiki and some great information in there, I did not realize the wiki would contain that!

World of warcraft is the game I will be playing...

From what I see a lot can be done with it - but I cant see how I could say tank and heal and DPS in a heroic or an instance? I understand I would have to have the most used spells on certain key numbers etc, but can I set the tank to focus on 1 mob the healer to focus on the tank and the DPS on another? I know this is going OT but don't want to make a million and one threads. Very interesting Concept. I have been basic multi boxing for years and this will make life so much easier :)A trinity group (tank/heals/dps) is by far one of the most challenging multiboxes you'll ever do. Lots and lots of micro management there. How do you do it? Well the best thing I can suggest is create a team at level 1 and play them together, build the team from the ground up and you'll see where you start having problems. As you have problems you'll develop macros for situations that allow you to handle those issues. You'll build muscle memory and reflexes and tactics...

I can tell you that if you jump straight into a trinity group @ 80 you'll spend a LOT of gold repairing and be very frustrated as you learn - it is possible, but the leveling process was easiest because as your characters grow, so does your setup.

Frosty
03-26-2009, 08:48 AM
From what I see a lot can be done with it - but I cant see how I could say tank and heal and DPS in a heroic or an instance? I understand I would have to have the most used spells on certain key numbers etc, but can I set the tank to focus on 1 mob the healer to focus on the tank and the DPS on another? I know this is going OT but don't want to make a million and one threads. Very interesting Concept. I have been basic multi boxing for years and this will make life so much easier :)

You'll want to take a look at the macro sections in the wiki and read through some of the general help threads. All the info you need is there and more! ;)
It's not as hard as you might think, but may take a bit of work to get set up the first time. Once you are done, you'll be rolling through everything with no problems.

Good luck!

Yetiman
03-26-2009, 08:50 AM
Thanks again all, I must admit I am very technically minded and just find it hard to get my head around! I will be reading a lot and hopefully set this up on the weekend - can see it being very fun and interesting :)

Akeldema
03-26-2009, 08:51 AM
Thank you all for your quick replies. I read the Wiki and some great information in there, I did not realize the wiki would contain that!

World of warcraft is the game I will be playing...

From what I see a lot can be done with it - but I cant see how I could say tank and heal and DPS in a heroic or an instance? I understand I would have to have the most used spells on certain key numbers etc, but can I set the tank to focus on 1 mob the healer to focus on the tank and the DPS on another? I know this is going OT but don't want to make a million and one threads. Very interesting Concept. I have been basic multi boxing for years and this will make life so much easier :)A trinity group (tank/heals/dps) is by far one of the most challenging multiboxes you'll ever do. Lots and lots of micro management there. How do you do it? Well the best thing I can suggest is create a team at level 1 and play them together, build the team from the ground up and you'll see where you start having problems. As you have problems you'll develop macros for situations that allow you to handle those issues. You'll build muscle memory and reflexes and tactics...

I can tell you that if you jump straight into a trinity group @ 80 you'll spend a LOT of gold repairing and be very frustrated as you learn - it is possible, but the leveling process was easiest because as your characters grow, so does your setup.^^ this.
In all honestly its quite a bad idea to jump right in like that, grab 3 of one class, learn the ropes, go from there.

Gadaí
03-26-2009, 09:12 AM
For tanking/healing/dpsing I use macros instead of spells directly on my alts. An example is that I use the Numpad keys to pass through keystrokes to my 'team'.

Healer: Keys 4 (self target), 5 (1st DPS), 6 (2nd DPS), 7 (3rd DPS) and 8 (Tank) target various members of the group. /, *, - and + cast various heals so a combination of 5 followed by * would target the first DPS char and then cast X type of heal on them.

DPS: Keys 0, ., 1, 2, 3 are 'DPS' and utility keys. The attack keys (generally I use 0 and 1) all use macros like this:

#showtooltip Spellname This ensures that the macro shows the correct details of what spell is used
/cast [target=party1target] Spellname This casts the spell at the party leaders target - generally my tank is always set to leader which gives me the luxury of knowing that all the DPS will actually be targeting my target for once >.<

Just a rough guide and I'm sure that the Wiki will contain tonnes more ideas on how to run a trinity setup ;)

Coltimar
03-26-2009, 09:14 AM
I started with 2 pallys, 1 priest, 1 mage and a warlock :/ That was my first group and it wasn't that bad. 5 shaman are easier but the first thing you need to do is read enough to understand. Search for a post called A plea to newcomers. That post will get you started in the right direction. If your goal is to run your own heroics, as many of us do, then I wouldn't suggest wasting a lot of time on a learning group. Read everything, plan your team carefully and make a bunch of mistakes in your first group.

Tynk
03-26-2009, 09:35 AM
do you see 1000 angry multiboxers nope you dont.
you see 1000+ happy perhaps insain but still happy boxers so its still blizzard approved to have fun with multiply perssonality's? hmm i ment characters

SilverInsanity is bliss



In all honestly its quite a bad idea to jump right in like that, grab 3 of one class, learn the ropes, go from there.

Unfortunately I need to disagree with this. I am all about trial by fire.
When I started multi-boxing WoW I went with a shadow priest, prot pally, fury war, mage, boomkin (changed my war to prot and paly to holy)
But then again I learn faster by making mistakes, and with a set up like mine, I was able to make a lot of mistakes.

Akeldema
03-26-2009, 09:47 AM
do you see 1000 angry multiboxers nope you dont.
you see 1000+ happy perhaps insain but still happy boxers so its still blizzard approved to have fun with multiply perssonality's? hmm i ment characters

SilverInsanity is bliss



In all honestly its quite a bad idea to jump right in like that, grab 3 of one class, learn the ropes, go from there.

Unfortunately I need to disagree with this. I am all about trial by fire.
When I started multi-boxing WoW I went with a shadow priest, prot pally, fury war, mage, boomkin (changed my war to prot and paly to holy)
But then again I learn faster by making mistakes, and with a set up like mine, I was able to make a lot of mistakes.Disagree as much as you want :P
thats just my opinion, I dont think i would have had the patience to jump right in and multibox 5 differnt classes 0.o

Sajuuk
03-26-2009, 10:19 AM
Pffft. On my five-class team I just mash my one DPS key. =P (So far, they're only level 10. I haven't bothered with healing yet)

moog
03-26-2009, 10:38 AM
Three RL mates are now MBing, after seeing my Shammy and Mixed teams.

My advice to all of them was to do a 5 x Shaman team first, as that is a lot easier than setting up and playing a mixed team, and they're all getting on fine with Shammies but planning to try a mixed team later, too.

Personally, my Shammes are parked at 71 as I am enjoying my mixed team a lot more but it's definitely a more complex team to play... but all the more rewarding for that :)

Taliesin
03-26-2009, 01:54 PM
Pffft. On my five-class team I just mash my one DPS key. =P (So far, they're only level 10. I haven't bothered with healing yet)

Pretty much the same concept for my mixed team here. I have an instance DPS macro (full optimal rotations) as well as a general questing/non-elite cast button (each toon casts a single spell). Non-elites will pretty much die from a single arcane barrage + shadow bolt (or wrath) + lightning bolt + smite.

Mixed groups are no more difficult to set up than same-class groups, once you reach a point where you need to assign a designated tank and healer. It will, however, require much more time to get all the individual macros and rotations worked out for each class though, since the 3 DPSers aren't just clones of each other (gear, talents, attack rotations, etc). The question is really more about how much time you have to try to micromanage each character's development.

wolpak
03-26-2009, 04:33 PM
After toiling around with dual and tri-boxing, I made a mixed 5 box team. I am stil la relative wow newbie, but it isn't that tough. The worst parts are the class quests where you have to drag your entire team or go solo just to complete it. Only level 20 right now, and learning every phase of MBing at once. Gets frustrating but who ever said life was fun.

Also, I think Blizzard is trying to encourage multi-boxing. I think the RAF is directly tied to that. Draw an analogy to how the US has done business. Once you have moved out and gotten all the land you can possibly get, you then work your way building up on the land instead of wasting exponentionally more resources trying to acquire new land. They already have a bunch of addicts who shun real life to sit in front of a computer for hours/days/weeks never showering, or eating or getting laid. Why try to convert someone who actually has a life when you can just get MORE money from they guy you already have addicted?

Talamarr
03-26-2009, 04:43 PM
never showering, or eating or getting laid

Speak for yourself newbie, I did all three this morning at the same time; I am a multi-boxer after all.

Vyndree
03-26-2009, 04:43 PM
Props to the OP for thinking before leaping into the hobby. :)

We strive to keep all conversations here on d-b compliant with the games we multibox on, and that GM conversations link is certainly handy for WoW-related compliance. :) Thanks for being a responsible player!

wolpak
03-26-2009, 06:20 PM
never showering, or eating or getting laid

Speak for yourself newbie, I did all three this morning at the same time; I am a multi-boxer after all.

Might as well call you Cosmo.

Ualaa
03-26-2009, 06:35 PM
If I was starting wow from scratch, on a new server not knowing anyone...

Definitely go the recruit a friend route. You'll level so much faster.

You'll be strapped for in-game gold along the way, so have skinning on one of your support toons.
(You can make a two line macro 1) /targetlastenemy 2) /use skinning(apprentice)
Go with both mining and herbalism on your main/most active toon.
That way, you're at least gathering all the way up. Take the time to level these skills, they're decent money makers.
One member on your team should be an enchanter for disenchants down the road.
Any skill beyond skinning, mining and herbalism will cost you to level them, but can make you something down the road.
*edit* Pick the most important skills leveling up. Give each shaman an up to date Lightning Bolt, Lesser healing wave, maybe skip a lot of spells depending on gold. For the paladin, take anything that is good for tanking.

I'd go with... Paladin tank and 4x shaman's. Pally is the active toon most of the time.
Shaman's are spec'd elemental for dps. For the most part, their dps is something like this:
1) assist the paladin -and- 2) cast offensive spell.
You can use a focus based assist method, but a party leader will leave you focus for other things.

Down the road (or with dual-specs), you might want to spec one of the shaman's resto for heroics.
No need for resto leveling up. Elemental can heal just fine.
Basically use your assist method, target whoever needs a heal and cast the heal.
Four healing stream totems is a lot of heals.

Shammies will have a totem stomping macro, which is a key with a castsequence on it.
Each shaman has Fire, Water, Air and Earth (initially just Earth I believe, but you add others as you level).
So pressing the key will be, /castsequence reset=5 Fire Totem, Air Totem, Earth Totem, Water Totem.
Just look at your available totems and try to have as many useful totems down at once.
A lot of them stack, the ones that don't have one of each useful type at once.

Also have access to dropping totems outside of the sequence is helpful.
For example, I can drop 4x Healing Stream, Mana Spring, Searing, Magma, Grounding, Poison/Disease Cleansing (two of each), or Tremor Totems on a click.
Decide what is useful to you and go with it.
It's not like you cannot fairly easily adapt to it.

Read what works for others and try anything you'd like.
You'll find a system that works for you and maybe contribute a bit down the road to others.
This is a phenominal community.

wowphreak
03-26-2009, 07:49 PM
Allot of yer time is gonna be spent tweaking macros getting yer group working well together.
It aint easy unless you already have a good feel for the classes yer gonna be playing you will wipe quite q few times in instances.

Look into FTL setup I think that's about the most flexible setup yeh can get.

Yeh cant go wrong sticking to the tank/dps/healer group
There's allot of plus and minus with going a "mixed group" vs tank X4 same other classes.

Moorea
03-26-2009, 11:49 PM
never showering, or eating or getting laid

Speak for yourself newbie, I did all three this morning at the same time; I am a multi-boxer after all.

Hmm you ate in the shower ?

wolpak
03-27-2009, 11:17 AM
never showering, or eating or getting laid

Speak for yourself newbie, I did all three this morning at the same time; I am a multi-boxer after all.

Hmm you ate in the shower ?

He didn't say WHAT he ate.

Also, would tailoring make more sense for the Shamans as it has much better caster stats than leatherworking?

Kaynin
03-27-2009, 12:33 PM
never showering, or eating or getting laid

Speak for yourself newbie, I did all three this morning at the same time; I am a multi-boxer after all.

Too much info. :P

wowphreak
03-27-2009, 08:29 PM
I would pick up tailoring/enchanting on one char because yeh end up with tons of junk items yeh can de and yeh end up with tons of cloth.

Vmpwraith
03-27-2009, 10:35 PM
If you get the gathering professions mining, herbalisim and skinning I would definiatly put mining and herb on the main it's so much easier and skinning on an alt. I have missed leveling herb because its on an alt and I always run past the herbs and forget about it.

also a mixed group can be great but someone on the front page had a great idea start at level one with the team. It will be slower to level but the practice you get with the team will be huge and save a very frustrating time trying to master a group.

check out http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Syro%27s_Multi-Boxing_Part_1:_Getting_Started
and http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Syro%27s_Multi-Boxing_Part_2:_How_To_Actually_Kill_Stuff

They were a great help to get set up but remeber you maynot have all the spells abilities at low level so a little tayloring will be required.

Yetiman
03-29-2009, 01:31 PM
Wow (no pun intended) - what an overwhelming response.

Well after creating a new RAF account, transferring mu 39 priest to it with the 10% shoulders I grouped him up with my priest and boosted them with my main - got to 60 after about 8 hours if that, was brilliant. So I gave my points to my paladin and have decided to level the below combination

Paladin and Priest, the priest is shadow and the paladin is retri. I purchased Keyclone today and managed to set it up (after 2 hours I finally did it, I was over complicating things!)

I have got some good macros set up I think, have a whole series of buff and healing macros - which knocks the SP out of shadow form but then I can press another button and put him in. Set up a castsequence macro in its most basic form and just listed all the dots for the priest.

So its not to hard all I find my self doing it attacking on the pala mashing the dot button and mind blast button while tanking it. Seems easy!

Taking me a while to move and attack stuff as I am still getting used to setting focus :)

But thanks all :)

Ualaa
03-29-2009, 04:58 PM
For your priest, try this macro:

/cast [nostance:1] Shadowform


If you are not in stance 1 (Shadowform), it casts Shadowform.
This is beneficial because you can mash the button to activate stances/forms, without having multiple presses pull you out of your form.
For two toons, it has a small use.
Once you say a druid with Moonkin Form and a priest with Shadowform, and one will drop out of their form to do a heal, but the other is set to continue to DPS....
Having all your alternate form toons on one keypress, with mashable macro's is nice.
Just press your keybind for alternate forms, which in this case will put the priest into Shadowform if she is not there, but won't take her out of it.






The Addon Jamba, in the addon's/macro's forum is extremely useful.
You can strobe follow even, so once combat ends the priest auto follows on its own.
Or have a key, where any of the followers/slaves, auto follows the master toon on the keypress.
The master doesn't even have to be in your group.
Jamba is extremely nice for flightpaths, questing, auto accepting escorts on slaves, follow etc.
Highly recommended.

Yetiman
03-30-2009, 04:17 AM
For your priest, try this macro:

/cast [nostance:1] Shadowform


If you are not in stance 1 (Shadowform), it casts Shadowform.
This is beneficial because you can mash the button to activate stances/forms, without having multiple presses pull you out of your form.
For two toons, it has a small use.
Once you say a druid with Moonkin Form and a priest with Shadowform, and one will drop out of their form to do a heal, but the other is set to continue to DPS....
Having all your alternate form toons on one keypress, with mashable macro's is nice.
Just press your keybind for alternate forms, which in this case will put the priest into Shadowform if she is not there, but won't take her out of it.






The Addon Jamba, in the addon's/macro's forum is extremely useful.
You can strobe follow even, so once combat ends the priest auto follows on its own.
Or have a key, where any of the followers/slaves, auto follows the master toon on the keypress.
The master doesn't even have to be in your group.
Jamba is extremely nice for flightpaths, questing, auto accepting escorts on slaves, follow etc.
Highly recommended.

Thanks mate, that could be interesting - I will eventually try a 5 man team and think something like this could be very useful, so thank you :)