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Smoooth
03-24-2009, 10:30 PM
Just cleared ramparts with lvl 62 prot pally green geared as ret and 4x62 resto druid trees. 1 shot it with no deaths the whole run, complete easy mode.

Trash - 450 DPS, No problems at all. I just keep my druids on follow. Anytime a caster does the firestorm AoE thing I just 4x wild growth and everyone stays at max HP.

Watchkeeper Gargolmar - 350 DPS, He doesn't hit hard at all. I couldn't down the healers before they heal themselves but they run out of mana pretty fast then they drop 1 at a time. Healers took almost no damage the whole fight so it was a simple tank + rejuvenation.

Omor the Unscarred - 290 DPS, Had the trees point at an angle so when they moved foward they would be spread out in a line. They were all in range of rejuv but only within range of closest for wild growth. Spread out far enough that the boss's treacherous aura didn't hit anyone else. Probably could've healed throught it easy enough though. Just tanked the boss down and threw up HoTs n who needed them. Downed after 5 mins.

Vazruden - only 220 DPS! I could literally stand in the fire and just stay full with wild growth. I moved after a few stacks of the fire if it was easy. Downed in 5 minutes from pulling adds. This is the easiest this guy has ever been for me.


The full clear took me around an hour but it was just so easy. I'm going to try this set-up in more instances and will report back if it works as well there. I may also try them still in full resto spec but out of tree form to add some more dps.

Smoooth
03-24-2009, 11:45 PM
Just cleared blood furnace with no probs. I'm starting to think all the content that doesn't have enrage timers is doable with this comp. I basically have a whole raids heals and they dont even have to be facing me to heal.

algol
03-25-2009, 01:39 AM
Q: Who wins when two resto druids duel?

A: The one who doesn't go AFK.

Zal
03-25-2009, 02:07 AM
Q: Who wins when two resto druids duel?

A: The one who doesn't go AFK.
don't know... i've gone afk on my resto druid before during BC.

Orshok
03-25-2009, 07:39 AM
I'm very much interested by your progress. In your setup, you keep all the druids in trees and only the pala is dpsing ?
is it just to experiment ? is it really better than pala + 3 boomkin + 1 tree ? are you planning to try this setup too ?

Smoooth
03-25-2009, 10:17 AM
Yeah, it's just experimental at the moment. I speced all the druids resto while boosting them to make the boosting go faster. I took them into steamvault at level 61 and was able to heal through the last boss with a double enrage. Lvl 72 +200% attack speed and +150% damage, he goes into turbo mode if you dont kill the little fish tank things. Granted my warrior tank is lvl 80 this just got me thinking.


is it really better than pala + 3 boomkin + 1 tree ? are you planning to try this setup too ? Well obviously it's better at healing and worse at dps. If you can down a boss in 1 minute with the higher dps group you might as well. If not this might be a viable strat to off spec.

I'm going to try out leaving them resto but out of tree form to see what kind of dps they can contribute while still maintaining a high mana pool and full heals. I will also later try 3 trees + 1 boomkin. One boomkin would more than double the killing speed and 3 trees would still provide massive healing power. I love the ability to heal through anything any boss can throw at you.

Starbuck_Jones
03-27-2009, 08:37 PM
Im running a paladin and 4 druids. I leave them all in caster form. They are mostly balance spec and not much resto. I should respec them in balance just to get the treants and the rest in restoration for more mana regen. Starfall just isnt worth it and I dont have time to try and optimize earth/moon/eclipse procs. But so far 4x regens not resto spec have been more than enough to keep me alive through trash and 8x HOTS havnt let me down on anything bigger.

At level 72 they are putting out about 520dps. With 580ish spell power. (seems low to me) Im still think im missing something big on how to pew pew pew with them and get their dps up. But all ive been able to find is /castrandom Starfire,Wrath Or /castsequence Moonfire, StarfireX (for how long moonfire lasts with extra talents and glyph). A /cast wrath macro has better dps, but it chews through mana too fast.

But it is fun to sit there at times with 3-4 mobs on the paladin and slow play it by just having the druids refresh the regen every 15 seconds.

Smoooth
03-28-2009, 09:04 AM
Can you keep up regrowth and rejuv indefinately in your spec without running out of mana if you needed to? A 40/0/31 spec is probably the way to go. I would probably take swiftmend over treants. With swiftmend glyph the HoT isnt removed and it would be a 100% HP button every 15 seconds. Also I noticed without the glyph if all the druids swiftmend at the same time it only consumes 1 of the HoTs, must be a lag thing.

It's going to be hard for me to drop wild growth though. It's such a good spell to just live through AoEs and not worry about which toon has aggro.

Starbuck_Jones
03-28-2009, 04:33 PM
Yea, I can keep rejuv up and never run out of mana as long as Blessing of Wisdom is up. If I double stack the HOT's it I can only go about 4 min and im OOM.

4 healers isnt the problem though, Its getting the DPS out of them that im having a bit of trouble with. I can slow fight just about anything (just healing) but that takes forever. Im still spoiled by my Mage groups aoe damage and the videos of shamen and their chain lightning I guess. This morning I tried to slow fight the first boss in UK by only useing HOT's and DOT's instead of slinging wrath and starfires. End result was the fight took about a minute longer than normal and I was still OOM by the last 10k hp.

Smoooth
03-28-2009, 11:10 PM
I just got totally owned in slave pens. Theres nagas that fear bomb every few seconds. Some are in groups of 2. Soon as I figured out how to deal with them I get to the soothsayers who kept MCing a druid and using tranquility to heal themselves. Seems mobs' fears don't have diminishing returns either cause I would keep getting feared over and over and it would last like 10 secs each time. That zone is so frustrating and annoying. I really, really hate nagas. <--not rascist lol

Starbuck_Jones
03-29-2009, 12:10 AM
Let me dig up my write up on slave pens from my pseudo blog on facebook.

Slave pens is ass

Ok. So I finished up all the quests I had in my journal for Terokkar and hopped over to Zang to finish the quest in Slave Pens, the one where you are looking for the lost group of druids. I had hoped to be level 66 at the time, but the quests in Terokkar got me about half way through 66 so this should be a nice little event to finish with before moving to Nagrand.

Now lets talk about Slave Pens. This zone is ass. Whoever was responsible for populating that place should be fired, and fined all the money they were paid. First off, quests. Oh I’m sorry I meant quest. Nope, that’s not right, its got half a quest. That’s right, it doesn’t rate high enough to even get its own quest. And that QQ druid out front, she is now number two on lamest NPC’s. Yup, she’s right up there next to the retarded taurin in their start area that whines about his lost dog. Jesus fuckballs! Your dog is gone, find him yourself, I’ve got epics to loot! Oh yes, Slave Pens. Lets see, well let’s start with chain fearing mobs. Shit, I’m hit with AOE fear, pop last man standing. Didn’t even get a sword swing in and I’m feared again. Pop trinket, and feared again. God fucking damn it. 45 seconds of fear is ASS! ASS, ASS, ASS. This isn’t fun, it’s not even a challenge, they could at least have made these guys run fast enough to beat your ass into the ground while feared, but they don’t, they just run alongside you with their shit hole pathing and fear you again. The whole dungeon is like this. Everything fears, everything poisons you or gives you an STD, or spell reflect. This is the 21st century, there is no excuse for this. It got so shitty, the solution for my druid group was to wait and pop treants on each pull in the hope that when the fear bombs go off the trees scatter and I can continue to kill. The one fun part of this whole experience was when one druid tore off hells bells into the dungeon with 15 seconds of fear. Don’t ask me how she didn’t get killed but she was down the hall, past the next room and standing in a little pot thing. So I got to 4 man it for about 5 pulls to rescue her.

Bosses. Let’s see, here was disappointment again. First boss I unleash the fury and wtf? I’m oom and he is down like 25% is all? Sigh, gonna wipe, I can feel it. Humm. This is odd, hes not doing any damage, Judgment of light is overhealing. Ok. I see now, this is a game of whack-a-totem. Whack the totem whack the boss, whack the totem, whack the boss. 5 min later he dies. Im not sure how that guy was supposed to be able to kill someone? Maybe a cloth wearer and they sat down? Lame. They should have given him AOE fear. Second boss was yawn. Same crab model that the last 20 mobs used just size set to 100. He just died like they do. They should have given him AOE fear. Last boss was decent. Some giant bog lord that’s been locked away so long that he blew spooge on everyone because he was so excited someone bothered to get to the end of this travesty of an instance.

So I hand the bad news that her friends are dead or sex slaves to the QQ druid and get my quest reward that’s vendor fodder. I take a look back at the dungeon I realize, there is absolutely no reason what so ever to go back there. The loot was shit from a donkey. Fish scales that sell for 10s a stack. The same fish oil you get off level 4 murlocks, no cloth no nothing. At least Underbog had all the Sanguine Hibiscus things to sell, and motes, and pocket lint that sells for a gold a stack. Oh and it had quests. Slave Pens is by far the shittiest dungeon to date. You could shit diarrhea into a bowl of M&M’s and it would be more enjoyable than returning to that place. It’s nothing more than a big shaman masturbation zone.

Smoooth
03-29-2009, 12:45 PM
HAHA, nice write up. I have the same feelings for the place. Just wish I would have read this first instead of finding out first hand. I had my 80 warrior take over as tank and steamrolled the place to get the half of the quest done. Killed about 100 nagas, got about 100 fish oil and 100 fish scales. Best loot evar.

Starbuck_Jones
03-29-2009, 06:03 PM
Yea, hehe, I wasn't very happy with that zone. I think it took around 2.5 hours to finish it with my group and I ran out of beer.

Smoooth
04-05-2009, 12:22 AM
I respeced out of 4x resto to 1x resto, 1x boomkin, 2x hybrids not in a shapeshift. At level 64 so far.

Boomkin spec http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?tal=503200302533003301300300000000000 00000000000000000000000002500331200000000000000000
Resto spec http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?tal=040000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000023003331203150053135031301
No-form spec http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?tal=553200012533003320000300100000000 00000000000000000000000023203031000000000000000000

The boomkin speced druid only does a small amount of dps over what the no form casters do. I like it for the 5% spell crit and 3% spell haste aura. I keep the resto druid in tree form to conserve mana and give the +6% heaing buff. He will usually be enough healing but sometimes I throw in 2 rejuvs from the no form druids. My dps is moonfire then 3x starfire castsequence. With intensity+dreamstate+blessing of wisdom+judgement of wisdom I haven't run out of mana or had to drink at all yet.

Multibocks
04-05-2009, 10:22 AM
retarded taurin in their start area that whines about his lost dog. Jesus fuckballs! Your dog is gone, find him yourself, I’ve got epics to loot!

Im not sure you know, but this Tauren was put in place for a make-a-wish foundation kid. He died not long after they implemented the quest. They also named a pvp xbow after him. Think his name was Ephoenix or something like that. Really sad story.