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Broken
03-23-2009, 09:39 AM
Got my computer setup to 5box last week. This is my first team, and first dungeon :)

http://i44.tinypic.com/1111e2g.jpg

Thanks for good read on these forums! Couldn't have setup everything as quickly without it.

If anyone has tips to the combo im running, feel free to comment! :)

simpletom
03-23-2009, 10:07 AM
and no brokenarrow i sight ;p

grats on deadmines clear

i think you have an interesting team build, can you shadowmeld the whole team to soft reset a bad pull?

Broken
03-23-2009, 10:43 AM
Yep :)

But if pets are engaged they'll get killed ofcause.

Kelevra
03-23-2009, 01:23 PM
Interesting setup,
stay tuned and make some more screenshots :D!

Broken
03-23-2009, 04:39 PM
Looking good.

Be careful with those hunters... sooner or later the auto-target-and-fire "bug" is going to get you.



What bug is that?


Otherwise its going pretty good... Only time i've wiped is because i get too eager and pull too many mobs..

I need to setup a way to continue fighting if my druidtank get smashed though. As it is now, i have about 5 seconds to get aggro off my healer with the pets or hunters. When it happens i just panic and die lol

Kelevra
03-23-2009, 07:28 PM
Change the pets to gorillas,
they have the very nice AoE stomp.
could be very usefull to controll larger grps!

mikekim
03-24-2009, 04:15 AM
Change the pets to gorillas,
they have the very nice AoE stomp.
could be very usefull to controll larger grps!

you can't get gorillas until 26 - it's nice to get one on the main and leave the rest as pure DPS

Broken
03-24-2009, 09:14 AM
Yeah, i'll probably just replace the boar with a gorilla later on.

Just chose it for the charge ability, which i guess it doesnt get until later now. They've changed alot of class mechanics since last i played.

Just got Aimed Shot on the hunters, which i didnt realize they've changed to an instantcast mortalstrike lol, but it adds a considerable amount of dps.

For those interested, hunter macros in instance:

Opener:


/target [target=Brokenclaw, nodead] [target=Brokenbow, nodead] [target=Brokenaim, nodead] [target=Brokenshot, nodead] [target=Brokenaid, nodead]
/assist target
/castsequence reset=3 Hunter's Mark, Serpent Sting

Spam:


/castsequence reset=9 Aimed Shot, Arcane Shot, Arcane Shot, Serpent Sting



Simple really... If you dont have lag, and bows with less than 2.8(ish? havent calc the exact) speed, the spam macro will fit perfectly with no dps loss :)

slash
03-24-2009, 10:06 AM
The speed of your bow does not affect how often you can cast those abilities, they are all instants on the GCD, so will have 1.5secs between them no matter what speed your bow is.

Arcane Shot has a 6 second cooldown, so your macro will get stuck for 6 seconds after casting the first arcane shot, is this intended? Serpent sting has a 15 second duration too, so you are refreshing it a bit early which could cost you additional mana.


0.0 - Aimed Shot Fires
1.5 - Arcane Shot Fires
7.5 - Second Arcane Shot Fires
9 - Serpent Sting Fires
10.5 sequence starts again.
Quite a good sequence thinking about it for lower levels, as long as mana isn't an issue. You'll want to add multishot into that rotation when you get it, between those two arcane shots.


/castsequence reset=combat Aimed Shot, Arcane Shot, Multi-Shot, Arcane Shot, Serpent Sting
... and when you get steady shot, things get a bit more complicated because it has a cast time, which varies depending on weapon speed and haste effects.

Broken
03-24-2009, 12:09 PM
Bowspeed is for autoattack.

With the opener, i apply target+mark+sting

With the spam, hunter goes: aimed, auto, arcane, auto, arcane, auto, sting / repeat

the spam macro finish exactly when aimed shot cd is up. if i get lag sting wont have time to cast before aimed cd is up though, but i normally dont.

slash
03-24-2009, 01:16 PM
Auot-shot is completely unlinked from other shots now, so it just keeps firing in the background even while you are casting other shots. Auto-shot will just go off when its ready.

Broken
03-24-2009, 01:48 PM
Ah cool, good to know :)

Oatboat
03-24-2009, 05:48 PM
Hey you might try a Bear pet. They get a nice AOE swipe that helps them grab mobs. 3-4 bear pets would be nice aoe dmg/threat

slash
03-25-2009, 06:34 AM
Looking good.

Be careful with those hunters... sooner or later the auto-target-and-fire "bug" is going to get you.



What bug is that?


Put your hunter in range of an enemy. Don't target ANYTHING. Press your DPS macro.

1) Hunter selects the closet target.
2) Hunter fires
3) You wipe because you just pulled an extra group.

This is because hunters are "physical" attackers, just like melee. Get close to a mob with a melee class (don't target anything) and press your attack button - it'll select the closet enemy and attempt to attack. Hunter's behave the same way unfortunately, just with a ranged attack.Is this not fixed by turning off the Auto-Shot/Auto-attack interface option? This is the option which automatically switches you to auto-attacking when a mob gets to close for auto-shot. This bug used to cause many issues when raiding, but turning this option off fixed it.

Broken
03-27-2009, 12:39 PM
Confirmed. Turning off the Autoattack/Autoshot in the interface options fixed the hunter random attack bug :)

Also just learned that Aimed Shot and Multi-Shot shares cooldown, so now im trying to figure out if its possible to set a variable swich in macros to set my hunter in either "AoE" or "Single" mode, so i can continue my current setup where i have bound the shotmacro to every key i use on my tank. Havent really looked into the rules and limitation on lua in that context.



Other updates:



Farmed BFD 6-7 times to get the bow inthere, but it didnt drop a single time.

http://i42.tinypic.com/312cz02.jpg



Also just finished Gnomeregan just for kicks. Got 5 pieces of awesome loot for my priest that i cant use for another 3 levels hehe. That instance is a pain in the butt though lol, managed to wipe a few times while afk.

http://i42.tinypic.com/v741on.jpg



Then next up is Stockcade for quests, then ill probably do the two Razorfens a time or two, and then move on to farm scarlet for abit.



The combo is showing to be awesome so far. I dont have any problems at all keeping my bear tank up, even against orange bosses. And hunters singletarget dps is just amazing, and thats despite the fact that they have very crappy bows still. I somewhat have a problem with large groups of mobs (7+), bear tank isnt exactly perfect at AE tanking and hunters is obviously focused on single target. But on boss fights, they seriously blow stuff up.

Enjoying the team, and will most likely level to 80.

Stay tuned for more updates, if it interest you :)



edit: Gonna try either a gorillas or bears for the AE thingy when i get to scarlet, and see how much DPS drop is compared to the benifit of having them blast alot of mobs.

Kelevra
03-27-2009, 08:00 PM
Nice one,
keep the screenshots coming :)

The AE-Tanking as a feral is not so easy, but with the Glyph that Maul hits two targets and a the talent that swipe does more damage its realy doable!
Just keep the mobs in front of you - you can also do quite nice AoE Damage with hunters, if you use volley (dont know when you learn it - around level 40)

Till 3.1 Gorillas are the best AoE Pets, after the patch, bears are better, because they can train the Thunderstomp and they also have a swipe-like attack!

Kalikiano
03-31-2009, 08:46 PM
I am jealous of 5boxing cant justify the monthly cost so im only doing duos.

I really enjoy my pally for the aoe tanking using http://thottbot.com/s31789 http://thottbot.com/s26573 and http://thottbot.com/s25780 helps keep mobs off druid and on my pally might be an idea not sure how well druids do at aoe tanking unless hunter pets can hold aoe aggro that well no idea.