Dk's

[nirita]

i got my first team very close to 80 now but atm i am boored of them and want to make some alts wile i w8 for rested xp and i wanted to ask if 5 dks can do heroics and how well they do in pvp

so if anyone could post some sort of video or maybe even some good screeshots

[beyond-tec]

DK teams! ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=19521')

[Zerocool2024]

DKs Take Zero Skill ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=19948')

Not sure of any other 5box DK groups that have cleared a Heroics.

[nirita]

thanks zero exactly what i wanted and very well done i must say

[Jubber]

May want to think about adding a healer in that 5th spot. Currently DK's teams are clearing heroics due to stacking aura's and blood taps with glyphs. I believe the stacking aura's are going away in the upcoming patch so having the healer will make things a little easier.

[Multibocks]

stacking blood aura's are not gone, however a lot of avoidance has been removed from DKs and it will make heroics harder.

[Zerocool2024]

Yeah, they are going to keep the Stack, but it's not going to show in the buff bar.

We are losing tankage, but, I will have gear to compensate by the time that happens, so I don't know how that will affect the people running their DK groups who have not gotten to the Heroics.

I haven't given much thought to specs/gear/anything with the new patches, but I will just roll with the punches and see what happens...

If we get shafted with tankage, then I have a back up healer, or a back up group to run if I really get worked... (5* Paladins).

Or I can just spec DPS and run 25 mans and PVP the hell out of people. I got my name out there with doing the 40man, and got a few people wanting to run with me and begging me to run stuff with them because of my DK group is (OP) lol..

[Dominian]

Yeah, they are going to keep the Stack, but it's not going to show in the buff bar.

We are losing tankage, but, I will have gear to compensate by the time that happens, so I don't know how that will affect the people running their DK groups who have not gotten to the Heroics.

I haven't given much thought to specs/gear/anything with the new patches, but I will just roll with the punches and see what happens...

If we get shafted with tankage, then I have a back up healer, or a back up group to run if I really get worked... (5* Paladins).

Or I can just spec DPS and run 25 mans and PVP the hell out of people. I got my name out there with doing the 40man, and got a few people wanting to run with me and begging me to run stuff with them because of my DK group is (OP) lol..

Dks arent beeing shafted they are brought down to the other tanks..

[suicidesspyder]

Go nerfing the *hero class* why do they introduce this then cut them down. Is it because of all the other tanks not feeling atiquite now or what. I have tanked on a warrior druid and now dk. Ok yes we can deal with magic better then any other tank but you know what we dont get the massive increase that druids get or the added block and stats a shield gives you. I just got halfway done gearing my dk tank and saw this and was like omfg r u kidding me. People need to stop complaining in the blizzard forumns its a hero class for a reason they wont be that for much longer if they nerf the dk. We will be brought right down to the same lvl as all the other classes. First nerf they killed our dps and obliterate now they nerf our tanking. In pvp is still pretty bad i mean clothies wipe the floor with me. Its called fear kite fire from distance grr grr n grr. I mean we got dg oh yey pull them in chains of ice we get stunned they run away fire from distance or knock us back. I dont see how they are really that OP. Ive done my instances with my 5 dk's but against fear spam frost novas stuns we aint that op in bg's. Specially fear all a lock needs to do is dc on of our alts then howl of terror and fear dot all of our toons and thats the end of that. So i think blizzard really needs to stop nerfing the hero class and leave us where we are. Nerf the hunters and op explosive shot and locks and the amount of dots they can put on u. I mean 6 dots from one lock with a fear i go from 23k hp to less then 5 before i even leave fear. KInda annoying if u cant enjoy the fight. Yes i use lichborne but only last 20 secs with 3 min cd. Wish they would lower the cd for us to say 2 mins like the trinket. But enough rambling imma go get sheeped off my mount or feared around bg from one corner to the next lol. Hey honor is honor wewt.

[Dominian]

Go nerfing the *hero class* why do they introduce this then cut them down. Is it because of all the other tanks not feeling atiquite now or what. I have tanked on a warrior druid and now dk. Ok yes we can deal with magic better then any other tank but you know what we dont get the massive increase that druids get or the added block and stats a shield gives you. I just got halfway done gearing my dk tank and saw this and was like omfg r u kidding me. People need to stop complaining in the blizzard forumns its a hero class for a reason they wont be that for much longer if they nerf the dk. We will be brought right down to the same lvl as all the other classes. First nerf they killed our dps and obliterate now they nerf our tanking. In pvp is still pretty bad i mean clothies wipe the floor with me. Its called fear kite fire from distance grr grr n grr. I mean we got dg oh yey pull them in chains of ice we get stunned they run away fire from distance or knock us back. I dont see how they are really that OP. Ive done my instances with my 5 dk's but against fear spam frost novas stuns we aint that op in bg's. Specially fear all a lock needs to do is dc on of our alts then howl of terror and fear dot all of our toons and thats the end of that. So i think blizzard really needs to stop nerfing the hero class and leave us where we are. Nerf the hunters and op explosive shot and locks and the amount of dots they can put on u. I mean 6 dots from one lock with a fear i go from 23k hp to less then 5 before i even leave fear. KInda annoying if u cant enjoy the fight. Yes i use lichborne but only last 20 secs with 3 min cd. Wish they would lower the cd for us to say 2 mins like the trinket. But enough rambling imma go get sheeped off my mount or feared around bg from one corner to the next lol. Hey honor is honor wewt.

Im not sure if your joking but okey..

The loss of a shield is given back to death knights trought ice bound fortitude and parry.

This shows why calling Death Knights a hero class was the biggest mistake of Blizzard with the whole WOTLK. DK's are called a hero class because they start at 55 not because they are suposed to be a stronger class.

You have 3 ways to counter fear and by that dim returns is loooong gone.

Lichborn,anti magic shield and your pvp trinket, hey you can even go undead. Before he can even trow of his fear, you can strangulate. Death knights are in NO way in a bad state vs locks.. And why is chains of ice not affected by diminishing returns?? Lichborn negeates nearly all defence the warlock got for 20 seconds and its aparently not enough!

Hunters explosive shot is getting a nerf and the random tnt stun goes wich is a good thing.

Anyway no point arguing since we can do that on the Blizzard forums.

[Zerocool2024]

When it comes to PVE, I can tackle anything, doesn’t matter what it is.

(PVP, 5box)
When it comes to PVP, it only comes down to gear (with a DK) if I run across a Geared out the ass Holy Priest, I just say fuck it, and run away, there is no point. I will beat the piss out of that person all day long.

Warlock, (depends on spec):
Destruction - Shadowfury, dot, seduce someone, Death Coil someone, Fear someone, then attempt to Howl of Terror...
Me - Strangulate... Takes care of that, I have 5 of them, 5 Mind freeze, 5 Chain of Ice, 5 Death Grips, 5 Chains of Ice, and I can make them all into a neat little macro.
Me - They get off their AOE fear, and I just PVP trinket, they Shadow Fury, then Death coil, then Fear someone, but before they get off the second fear, I already Strangulate, Death, Ice... Game over.

Affliction - Instant Howl, Instant Dots, Death Coil, Fear, DOT DOT DOT.
Me - Repeat same steps as above.
Me - my pvp trinkets are down? My Lichborne is down? My Undead (3) are down, my 2 BE's Silence are down? I have enough HP to take whatever they throw at me till I get "ONE" toon back, Strangulate, then round them up, get the second toon who is off fear, Strangulate again, and then go kill the babyeater.

Demonology - What? I don't need to go any further.
Me - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA HAHAHAHAHAHAIHfliaHFJGJKY&&^*()&^TY(UI)_{PIOuyueigjsodgosidhsglks....

Resto Druid, almost the same thing, they have a less survivalability because there first thing is to "Hot, Cheetah" and I just Death Grip, Chain of Ice, then they "Hot, Cheetah" then I death Grip them again and Chain...Depending on the gear, it only takes 2 to 3 times before I kill them, or they just say fuck it, stand there and try to Complete heal and I kill them.
Feral - Hot, Bear, that warrior Rage to health thing, Realize they are going to die, Cheetah and "attempt" to run.
Boomkin - Tidal wave thing, root, and.... ? Die? yessir.

Mage (all specs) - Ohm, sheep, Frost Nova, Blizzard, invis and run?
Me - Just like the Warlock.

Shaman (Elemental) – Grounding, other totems, then Chain Lightning, Thunderstomp… Me – Death Grip, Death Grip, Strangulate, Get Stomped away, Death Grip, Strangulate = shaman dead.
Shaman (Ench/Resto) – Ohm… tickle?
Me – heheheh, that tickles… heheh.

Warrior (Fury/Arms)- I just laugh.
Warrior (Tank) - Takes hella long to kill him when he pops all his CD's to not die... But they just die anyway.
Rogue (all Specs) - Lawl.
Paladin (all Specs) - He bubs, I laugh and just stand there as he either runs away, or attacks, drops his judges then dies.
Death Knight (all Specs)- .... lol, pops his 5 sec bub, then dies from the meele hits. lol.

(1boxing a DK)

It all comes down to gear, I don’t care who you are, You could take the top dog PVPer of any class with mixed blues and greens and pit him against a wank who just bought an End game PVP toon on Ebay and he is going DESTROY that “Pro PVPer”

Put that Geared PVP vs the wank and the wank is going to go, “Hey, I wonder what this ability doe….” And he is dead.

Skill is a factor; but that skill is not going to do shit for you once that person has the gear to counter balance your gear.

Some classes are (blow all CD’s and hope that his CD’s are used up) Rogues and Paladins come to mind.

[suicidesspyder]

Yea your right i just respecd and people think its wierd cause i pull out of all three trees. I pull from blood to get some healing and vetern of third war stam strength increase unholy for the added 5% increase to strength and stam so now i got an 11% total increase. Plus som added dps then i put into frost for lichborne and some instant crit and added frost damage. All in all it feels a little better now getting more gear and all helps i guess. But im only doing this on one toon atm since computer is acting ghaaaaaaay. Its not letting me 5 box without serious issues poor graphics card. No job cause of economy now means no new computer oh well. But i tested this out on a friend sl/sl lock all deadly gladiator and one of the best pvpers i know thats all he does he hates pve. So met him in wintergrasp course we were both on vent. Did the whole countdown and went at it. Ok your wondering why there well my toon was already there since he herbs and mines between wg and when i need a break from pvp. So i dg,strangulate him, hit him twice use linchborne see him try to fear lol. Beat on him some more dropped mark of blood on his pet since for some reason his dots dont count as damage for healing me but his pet does ooohhhh ahhhh. So noticed lichborne was done his pet was half health and he was about the same maybe a little less. He started to fear i used mind freeze chains of ice ran outta range of his fear dg mind freeze beat him and won. So i think i got the whole lock thing down since i respecd havent had an issue with clothies ne more. But hunters different story they can kite a dk allday long. Hmmm wonder why frost trap entrapment then chains of ice but he does this wierd knockback dg again his pet stuns me he gets away. Pallies still the same way to many stuns and BUBBLE please nerf it. Not right lol a clothie doesnt get an immune bubble but a plate wearer does grr grr grr grr. Oh side not kinda funny arathi basin lm cliff. How many of you have been mc off cliff or knockbacked. Well yesterday i got knockedback by a shammy off the cliff but haha to his surprise he was coming with me. Death grip in mid air is awesome he died i lived. Sat down beside his dead body ate laughed at him emoted the heck outta him just to say i win. Sorry but it was really funny and got whipsered in ab from fellow alliance player saying that was the funniest thing hes ever seen. But oh well back to the drawing bored. Imma do some more work and rotation for attacking.