targetless system help

[Ogloo]

Hey I am on the tournoment relm atm and im at 1650, but the /focus system is holding me back atm. I read up how to do this and I understand it, but not sure how i do this in keyclone.. quote a recent post.
Lets say you have 5 shammies, ToonA, ToonB, ToonC, ToonD, ToonE.

Now lets say you want to do a lightning bolt on some toon, and have the rest do a lightning bolt on said toon's target.

You bind the lightning bolt to whatever you want on each toon, lets say the "2" key, then make a separate macro bound to some unused key, lets use the "]" key.

You then make the following hotstrings, you'll need 5 per character per spell.

ToonA:

2 --> LBAT
Ctrl-alt-] --> LBBT
Alt-Shift-] --> LBCT
Ctrl-Alt-Shift-] --> LBDT
Ctrl-] --> LBET

when I am on keyclone i press "2" for the "key" box, and then what do i type in for the hotstring? I dont really undestand that part.. thanks a lot

Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' setup. ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=11459') ( thanks a bunch Pocalypse ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=User&userID=9934'))

[Kel]

Here's a post which goes into more detail about hotstrings: What exactly are hotstrings for? ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=110244#post110244') scroll down the page a bit for a simple ste-by-step to setting hotstrings up.

I don't use them myself, so hopefully someone else can advise you if I'm saying the wrong thing.

Basically the hotstring bit is the name of the command you want to do when you press that button, so to make things simpler say you have two characters. You set up a keymap file for both characters, bascially the keymap is saying if I press this button on the active window I want to do this command (and then whatever buttons you said).

For ToonA's keymap file you have '2' in the key box and in the hotstring box you put the command you want to run when you press the '2' button, in this case we'll call it 'LBAT' (Lightning Bolt ToonA's target), you can call it whatever you want, aslong as it makes sense to you.

Then on ToonB's keymap file you make a hotstring with the key set to whichever combo you want, so for example it could be ctrl-alt-] and you call that 'LBAT' aswell. What this does is whenever you press '2' on ToonA (when that window is active) the LBAT command gets sent to your other toon and it behaves as though you pressed ctrl-alt-]

If you have a macro bound to ] on your other toon which says /cast [mod:alt,mod:ctrl,target=ToonA-target] Lightning Bolt then ToonB will cast Lightning Bolt on ToonA's target (in theory, the macros in the FTL thread are slightly different, so it maybe that my macro won't work). Using the hotstring thing you don't need to hold the modifier keys down for that macro to work, as keyclone passes them along as part of the hotstring.

I'm not sure if I'm making this any clearer (and apologies if I'm not), but basically the hotstrings are there so you can press a simple button on your active window (like 1 or 2) and it will do something more complicated on the alts (i.e. send modifiers to tell it who to target), the hotstring name is how keyclone knows which keys to tell the background windows to press.

The example in the FTL thread is organised by toon, as that's how you set the keymap files up (so it makes sense to organise it like that), but you might be able to understand it more by looking at each keymap (rather than all keymaps for each toon).

Bound to ], ingame on each toon, you need the following macro:

/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ToonA] [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonB] [mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=ToonC] [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=ToonD][mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonE]
/cast [target=targettarget,harm] Lightning Bolt
/targetlasttarget

Command: LBAT

ToonA --> 2
ToonB --> Ctrl-Shift-]
ToonC --> Ctrl-Shift-]
ToonD --> Ctrl-Shift-]
ToonE --> Ctrl-Shift-]

Comman: LBBT (Ligntning Bolt ToonB Target)

ToonA --> Ctrl-alt-]
ToonB --> 2
ToonC --> Ctrl-alt-]
ToonD --> Ctrl-alt-]
ToonE --> Ctrl-alt-]

I've colour coded it so you can see how each hotstring command maps onto the macro that is bound to the 'hidden' key. The active toon gets the normal button that you just pressed and casts the spell like they would if they were solo, the other toons get sent the modifier combination and hidden key which uses the macro to get them to targe the active toons target for their spell cast.

[Marious]

I have mine set up as just /cast [target=target-party1] <spell whatever> I mean that's really all you need, if you are changing focus between your toons then you should probably set up a macro on said key to also change your party1(Leader) and bam problem solved. And even then you can target with your main dead and still effectively DPS well at least for standing fights anything else you would need to do a quick focus/leader change and move your toons and continue the fight.

[wowphreak]

Yeh can also simplify it a lil yeh don't really need to bind something to an unused key.

What I do is have 2 keys for that use the ctr-shift-alt modifiers one is follow the other is an assist key



/assist [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ghoullar][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=rockor][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=phrellac][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,eruapawn]
/startattack

/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ghoullar][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=rockor][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=phrellac][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=eruapawn]
/follow


all the rest of yer macros yeh don't need to modify

Not sure how to set it up in keyclone I use autohotkey shouldnt be to hard to modify some else config though

[Chorizotarian]

If the FTL setup seems too painful you could also try my addon-based approach:
[Addon] ActionBarTargeting: Automatic focus-free targeting and follow macros ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=19802&')

As far as I can tell it gives you everything that FTL does with much less manual configuration.