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knopstr

02-28-2009, 09:17 PM

HI all,

I was able to get Vista64 up and running on my system over the last couple of nights. I have all available BIOS and SPacks installed along with most current Raid and MB drivers.

I'm now experiencing quite a few Blue Screen Crashes...hardware is as follows;

XFX Ultra790sli MB
Corsair 1600DDR3 memory (voltage set at 1.8v per tech phone calls with both XFX and Corsair)
Twin Seagate (new vert technology drives) in Raid0 format
EVGA 8800GT 1gb Video Card

As I stated above, I've made every effort to download and install the newest drivers and flash the BIOS. If anyone has had similar problems or can offer any helpful suggestions, please do.

Thank you kindly as always.

Chranny

02-28-2009, 09:37 PM

Am I the only who thinks 1.8v for DDR3 is excessive? O.O Aren't most Corsair DDR3 1600 rated for 1.65v?

knopstr

02-28-2009, 09:45 PM

I'm willing to try anything at this point. I called Corsair and XFX on Friday afternoon. Corsair looked up my MB and instructed me to run it at 1.8v's....

Is there any inherent danger of dropping the voltage? I'll drop it to 1.65 and see if it helps and report back later. It's basically happening after about 5-10mins of 5 wows in Icecrown or wherever.

Chranny

02-28-2009, 09:52 PM

knopstr

02-28-2009, 09:58 PM

No.

Chranny

02-28-2009, 10:07 PM

Try to monitor the GPU temps when you have 5x WoW open. :)

alcattle

02-28-2009, 10:08 PM

how old is the 8800? Might be getting on and tired, also might be a heat problem. How's the case cooling?

knopstr

02-28-2009, 10:42 PM

The Video Card is about 9mos old. I have a 120mm fan at the front of the antec cage directing air towards the back across the 2 hd's in the middle of the front...there's another fan mid-tower blowing air towards the back which has it's own fan on the rear of the case. I have a Zalman fan on the processor and another 120mm fan directing air up and out of the case at the top. The PSupply is on the bottom with it's own fan. My point being that I feel like I have more than adequate fan support over and through this case.

Within the $400 range....tell me what Video Adaptor to buy and I'll swap mine out and try it. Please suggest which and why....

Thank you kindly.

knopstr

02-28-2009, 11:00 PM

Ok...with 1 wow running (I went away for a dinner break) it hung my whole system up...sigh...suggestions?

Chranny

02-28-2009, 11:50 PM

Ok...with 1 wow running (I went away for a dinner break) it hung my whole system up...sigh...suggestions?Did you try monitoring temperature? Also, how big is your PSU and what brand? :)

spannah

03-01-2009, 12:47 AM

Take everything apart, put back together....

test with a diff video card

try one ram stick at the time

Run a memory test

Test ram and video on a diff computer

Nitro

03-01-2009, 04:29 AM

My first thought would be to ask what power supply are you using and after that I would start swapping out sticks of memory.

Can you play one copy of wow for long?

Chorizotarian

03-01-2009, 07:10 PM

Use nvmon to monitor the temperatures of your graphics card. If it only happens during heavy graphics load card overheating is a likely culprit. You may also be able to tell something by plugging the blue screen error code into a search engine.

knopstr

03-04-2009, 03:20 PM

What it turned out to be was that the ISO image of the BIOS that the XFX developer team had sent me did not flash the BIOS as I had expected it to. So, I went back to the downloads section and got the latest off the XFX site and my problems are solved. Much better performance with Vista64 and 8gb's of ram too.

Jafula

03-11-2009, 08:56 PM

Seldum

03-19-2009, 07:15 AM

I'm glad you solved your problem; it took me 6 months to get my Asus Ultra790sli MB stable. Bios update after bios update, RAM rma'd, grrr. It was insane.... one blue screen every hour is not fun :-).

Mental note: "do not buy that card"

I have the same problems with my grafic card. It never truly performed like I expected.....

:0)

Mukade

03-19-2009, 10:40 AM

Going 64 bit and Vista you really need to get the memory voltages/timings down right. Not just the recommended ones, and what your motherboard is telling you (because the voltage can always be off slightly from the meter).

With 64 bit you'll probably be using more memory slots. More slots is a lot less stable, so you'll probably have to drop the memory speed from the recommended. The ratings given on the memory are usually for pairs of RAM sticks (I'm on DDR2, so that's 3 sticks for DDR3). I've yet to see any maufacturer sell memory in rated sets of 4 sticks (6 sticks).

Vista also makes use of all of the ram, all of the time, with it's cacheing of programs you might run, so it's more likely to blue screen than XP, which only uses the top end of memory when something big is loaded into it.

One of the other BIOS settings you should be looking at is Northbridge voltage (at least on Intel systems. AMDs, with the memory controller on the CPU probably have something similar), as the Northbridge is the chip that connects to your RAM. With a lot of memory sticks you get an effect called Vdroop, where the larger number of sticks pull more current, and as a result the voltage being supplied to them, and the voltage the northbridge is using to communicate with them, drops. Because of this you might have to increase the voltages for the northbridge and RAM a little bit, although you should never go over the RAM's maximum voltage. Most motherboards have a monitoring section in the BIOS, so you can see how close to your settings the actual voltages are (you may need to set BIOS settings to increase the voltages shown in the BIOS' monitor over what you need, as when the computer is under load Vdroop can cause this to drop again).

[edit] And yeah, BIOS updates are vital, as they improve how the system handles Vdroop among other things.