View Full Version : This thread is a collection of my Heroic PvE videos
Hachoo
02-28-2009, 11:27 AM
This will be a running thread for me. I will keep all of the PvE videos that I have created in here for easy access should anyone want to see them for strategies, etc. I have remade my DTK/Gundrak videos and re-encoded them with DivX - they still look decent but the size is about 1/2 of what it was with WMV. All videos are with my Unholy DK + 4 Elemental Shaman Group. See below for the videos and other information:
Heroic Gun'Drak ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-HGundrak-Bosses.avi') - 6:32 66MB
Heroic Drak'Tharon Keep ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-HDTK-Bosses.avi') - 8:45 88MB
Heroic Halls of Stone ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-HHoS-Bosses.avi') - 11:57 148MB
Heroic Halls of Lightning ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-HHoL-Bosses.avi') - 7:07 72MB
Heroic Utgarde Pinnacle ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-HUP-Bosses.avi') - 14:42 149MB
Heroic Utgarde Keep ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-HUK-Bosses.avi') - 4:56 50MB
Heroic Nexus ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-HNexus-Bosses.avi') - 12:36 156MB
Heroic Ahn'Kahet ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-HAK-Bosses.avi') - 13:00 131MB
Heroic Azjol-Nerub ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-HAN-Bosses.avi') - 10:46 109MB
Heroic Violet Hold (All Bosses) ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-HVH-AllBosses.avi') - 9:42 99MB
Heroic Culling of Stratholme Timed Run ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-HCoS-Timed.avi') - 27:15 277MB
Heroic Culling of Stratholme Timed Run with Music ('http://www.vonderbecke.net/files/wow/movies/Hachoo-TimedCoS-music.avi') - 27:15 290MB
Golle
02-28-2009, 01:58 PM
awesome!
very nice, when do you decide your tank needs heals though? (like around what percentage)
Hachoo
02-28-2009, 05:22 PM
very nice, when do you decide your tank needs heals though? (like around what percentage)Not really any set percentage, I just heal as my instinct tells me its needed. After rolling with the DK for so long I have a pretty good idea when to heal based on what I'm fighting (types of mobs, how many of them, etc).
Hachoo
02-28-2009, 07:12 PM
I just ran UP and recorded all of the boss fights - special treat, I got the "Lodi Dodi We Loves the Skadi" and "My Girl Loves to Skadi All the Time" achievements while I was recording the run, so it will be useful for anyone trying to get those achievements. Running UK right now and recording those bosses, then I will make some videos - expect them to be uploaded and in this thread tonight. Will probably do the achievement on Keleseth as well (don't shatter any tombs) for this recording.
Hachoo
02-28-2009, 11:23 PM
Heroic UP added - For Skadi, I did the method of grabbing 6 harpoons and resetting (don't worry I used a transition without wasting video time with me grabbing all 6 harpoons) - also got both achievements from killing Skadi as well (but no drake :( )
I have a video of UK I'll be uploading later as well.
unseen
03-01-2009, 12:37 AM
These videos are all awesome. Thanks for sharing these Hachoo!
Hachoo
03-01-2009, 03:57 AM
Posting UK Video now as well... oddly enough I purposefully tried not to shatter any frost tombs (didn't use magma/elementals, didn't use chain lightning, didn't use thunderstorm, etc), but still did not get the achievement. Not sure why. Maybe my searing totems of my DK's diseases killed a frost tomb before it died or something. Anyone know if frost resistance helps against frost tombs? I'll drop an FR totem and go slow and make sure I don't hit a tomb at all.
Hachoo
03-01-2009, 01:16 PM
Looks like my website is down - I've sent a ticket in and they usually respond really quick so it should be back up soon.
Gares
03-01-2009, 01:31 PM
I was about to say. I do the same heroics but its always nice to see different ways to do them from others.
Redbeard
03-01-2009, 02:32 PM
Thank you for sharing your videos.
I am upgrading my computer and am wondering if i might be able to do some recording for my own enjoyment (never did it before). Would you mind divulging how you go about the recording process (what you use, etc). If you think that warrants another thread I will edit this and remove my comment.
Hachoo
03-01-2009, 05:05 PM
No problem, I personally use FRAPS to record my videos. I think it costs like $20 - works pretty good and doesn't affect my performance too much. It only records the main window that is up when you hit the record button (which is why on some of my videos when I loot on my alts, etc, it shows the mouse moving around but nothing happening.
As far as editing, I started out just making WMV files using Windows movie maker which comes with Windows. It does splits and music overlays etc, but it really only lets you save files as uncompressed, or wmv as far as I could tell. I wanted some extra functionality and wanted to go direct to DivX so I *may* be using Sony Vegas now (Honestly I don't condone piracy but $400 to make WoW videos? yeah, right :) )
Anyway, hopefully that helps.
Edit: Apparently theres a network issue with the fileserver serving up home directories for my web server - should be back up soon so hopefully the videos will be available again before long.
D3K17
03-01-2009, 07:20 PM
The links are dead :(
Hachoo
03-01-2009, 11:11 PM
My web server is still down - they're having file server issues, I would imagine it will be fixed by tomorrow - been using this web host for 9 years and never had an outage before so this is pretty abnormal :)
MrDvb
03-02-2009, 07:04 AM
great work Hachoo ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=User&userID=12821') .. thanx alot for videos .
i will try UP after i see ur video , but i think the site still down .
Hachoo
03-02-2009, 11:14 AM
Just checked, site is back online :)
knopstr
03-02-2009, 11:46 AM
What viewer should I be attempting to watch these in? When the gui appeared, I picked WMP. I downloaded the Culling (w/o sound) this morning and while I get the audio portion, I'm watching the default "windows" visualization in WMP. So, sound but no pictures.
Thanks
Hachoo
03-02-2009, 11:53 AM
They are encoded in DivX so you will need the DivX codec to play - easiest way is to just go to www.divx.com and download the "lite" version (might be listed as just "free download") - once thats installed, WMP will show the video.
Tizer
03-02-2009, 12:51 PM
nice vids, i'll be refering to them a lot when i turn 80 on my pally :)
Hachoo
03-02-2009, 03:12 PM
Well I ran VH yesterday and today and managed to get 4 Unique bosses (plus Cyanigosa of course) - hopefully tomorrow I will get the void boss and then I can post a VH video with all 6 bosses in one video :)
Hachoo
03-02-2009, 07:02 PM
Recording Ahn'Kahet right now - assuming it goes well I'll post the video (this is only my second time running it at all much less heroic) - will try the "burn boss down super fast" method for the last boss
Hachoo
03-03-2009, 01:51 AM
Uploading my Ahn'Kahet video now - last boss was kind of a mess - tried to do the "special" tactic on him 6 times and each time he wasn't targetable on his second insanity cast, so by the 7th time when I did it the "normal" way (eat the insanities and heal through them) i was pretty frustrated and lost a shaman. Anyway, still an OK video but I'll probably redo it later - the other 4 bosses worked out well though.
Hopefully I will get the void boss in VH in the next day or two and can upload the entire video for that.
Souca
03-03-2009, 06:30 AM
Hachoo, before you go the Sony Vegas route, you might want to play around with VirtualDub. I haven't figured it all out, but I know its free and it handles some of the encoding aspects. I'm still looking around for other solutions that pack more punch, but I'm pretty sure there is something out there that is free. If I track something down, I'll let you know. Might also be worth posting a poll to see what everyone else uses.
I also reccomend FRAPs. Well worth the small fee they charge.
- Souca -
Hachoo
03-03-2009, 10:15 AM
Oh, I already have Sony Vegas (maybe :) ) but I do use Virtual Dub to reprocess the sound in mp3 format (vegas doesn't seem to be able to do that without breaking) which lowers the filesize a lot.
Ammada
03-04-2009, 11:45 PM
Hachoo, i really hate you now, because off you and your stupid video's i switched too PVE now :) lol
thx allot mate :)
good luck en hope to see some other nice video's from you
keep up the good work
Hachoo
03-05-2009, 12:38 AM
Well I ran VH again tonight and got the voidwalker boss, was all happy thinking that made all the bosses, but then when I went to go put the clips together I realized I had gotten the VW boss twice and still haven't gotten Xevozz, and since he isn't as simple as just a tank n spank I want to make sure hes in the video - will keep running Heroic VH until I get him.
Hachoo
03-05-2009, 09:00 PM
Finally got Xevozz in VH - making the video now and will upload it tonight.
Edit: Crap - just realized I haven't gotten the beholder boss yet since I started recording. *sigh* Guess I'll try again tomorrow.
Hachoo
03-13-2009, 08:43 PM
FINALLY got the Beholder boss running VH after 12 runs. Finished the video and uploaded it, added it to the first post, has all 7 bosses in it. It's still uploading but will be done in less than 10 minutes.
Hachoo
03-14-2009, 10:13 PM
Added a video for Heroic Azjol-Nerub. Instance is cake except the last boss is a nightmare. Was my first time running it. I really recommend watching it if you are having issues with the last boss as after wiping 7 times or so I finally figured out placement that worked beautifully and made the entire run easier. Also not sure if you can tell in the video but the absolute KEY to winning is keeping grounding totems down when the venomslinger guys come in.
Hachoo
03-14-2009, 11:05 PM
By the way if anyone has any advice for me regarding my videos (quality, angles, different things you wish I'd show, certain trash fights, etc) please speak up. I have no issue re-recording videos in a "better way" if possible :)
David
03-16-2009, 11:24 AM
By the way if anyone has any advice for me regarding my videos (quality, angles, different things you wish I'd show, certain trash fights, etc) please speak up. I have no issue re-recording videos in a "better way" if possible :)Would be cool if you would turn your camera towards your shamans if they are far behind you. Sometimes feels like I`m missing action there :-), But it`s just a small thing, no big deal really.
I watched all your movies and it felt strange that you were tanking with unholy aura on, especially with no dedicated healer. At the last movie a noticed that it seems to be a buffbar error because your stance bar shows frost.
I`m also wondering how you handle healing? Do you run a dedicated healer or do you have healing macro`s for all shammies and just let them take turns depending on mana?
Seemed unreal that you would do heroics without a real healer but that isn`t to much of a problem with a 30k DK and when you have enough dps to burn bosses in 30seconds.
PS, I really liked your tactics in HOL. Just heal, heal and heal.
Anyway nice movies and they are going to help me out in the future with my shamans/dk team. Atleast I know that I won`t need a resto shaman.
Hachoo
03-16-2009, 11:36 AM
By the way if anyone has any advice for me regarding my videos (quality, angles, different things you wish I'd show, certain trash fights, etc) please speak up. I have no issue re-recording videos in a "better way" if possible :)Would be cool if you would turn your camera towards your shamans if they are far behind you. Sometimes feels like I`m missing action there :-), But it`s just a small thing, no big deal really.
I watched all your movies and it felt strange that you were tanking with unholy aura on, especially with no dedicated healer. At the last movie a noticed that it seems to be a buffbar error because your stance bar shows frost.
I`m also wondering how you handle healing? Do you run a dedicated healer or do you have healing macro`s for all shammies and just let them take turns depending on mana?
Seemed unreal that you would do heroics without a real healer but that isn`t to much of a problem with a 30k DK and when you have enough dps to burn bosses in 30seconds.
PS, I really liked your tactics in HOL. Just heal, heal and heal.
Anyway nice movies and they are going to help me out in the future with my shamans/dk team. Atleast I know that I won`t need a resto shaman.I'll try to focus on my shamans more in future videos :) As far as unholy aura - this is a talent in the unholy tree, its unrelated to "unholy presence". I am using frost presence (which gives extra threat and armor, hp, etc) but also have unholy aura which just gives my entire party +15% run speed).
As far as healing, I am not really using any special method, its just brute force. When I need heals I spam my healing macro and whichever shamans end their current cast while I'm spamming the key start healing my DK. It makes it so sometimes I can just heal my DK with 1 or 2 shamans instead of all 4, but now that I have such a high avoidance and large health poll I usually just wait until I'm really low on HP and then let all 4 shamans heal my DK (plus they have such high SP I can heal around 18k health with 1 set of lesser healing waves).
I have been using 4 elemental shamans since I started boxing - never used resto, never plan on it. Even when I was geared much worse I still used 4 elemental, so its definitely doable at all gear levels :)
David
03-16-2009, 11:40 AM
As far as healing, I am not really using any special method, its just brute force. When I need heals I spam my healing macro and whichever shamans end their current cast while I'm spamming the key start healing my DK. It makes it so sometimes I can just heal my DK with 1 or 2 shamans instead of all 4, but now that I have such a high avoidance and large health poll I usually just wait until I'm really low on HP and then let all 4 shamans heal my DK (plus they have such high SP I can heal around 18k health with 1 set of lesser healing waves). Din`t think it would work like that. I really thought I would need a /stopcasting + heal macro. On the otherhand, with your geared DK it shouldn`t be a problem to wait at all.
Hachoo
03-16-2009, 11:44 AM
As far as healing, I am not really using any special method, its just brute force. When I need heals I spam my healing macro and whichever shamans end their current cast while I'm spamming the key start healing my DK. It makes it so sometimes I can just heal my DK with 1 or 2 shamans instead of all 4, but now that I have such a high avoidance and large health poll I usually just wait until I'm really low on HP and then let all 4 shamans heal my DK (plus they have such high SP I can heal around 18k health with 1 set of lesser healing waves). Din`t think it would work like that. I really thought I would need a /stopcasting + heal macro. On the otherhand, with your geared DK it shouldn`t be a problem to wait at all.Keep in mind I've been doing it this exact same way since the first time I went into my first Heroic even before I was geared. I've never used /stopcasting for healing (if anything it causes more issues because if you panic and spam it you'll never get a heal off).
Siaea
03-16-2009, 11:51 AM
Hachoo,
I've been trying Heroic UP and can easily kill Svala and the guy in the trophy room. Skadi I can't seem to get. In your video, I see you collect the 6 arrows, run out to reset and then run all the way to the end. Then I see your tank leave for a sec (from what I can tell) and another group of trash appears, and then you can start the boss fight. I've tried this, and when I run back out, the boss is there, and usually he resets the event, in which case my shaman are all one shotted before I can get my tank back. What is it you're doing here?
thx (and great vids!)
Hachoo
03-16-2009, 12:05 PM
Hachoo,
I've been trying Heroic UP and can easily kill Svala and the guy in the trophy room. Skadi I can't seem to get. In your video, I see you collect the 6 arrows, run out to reset and then run all the way to the end. Then I see your tank leave for a sec (from what I can tell) and another group of trash appears, and then you can start the boss fight. I've tried this, and when I run back out, the boss is there, and usually he resets the event, in which case my shaman are all one shotted before I can get my tank back. What is it you're doing here?
thx (and great vids!)Well you're close... its not actually my tank that leaves, its one of my shamans :) So what I do is drop a totem farm including 4x healing stream totems. I send one of my shamans down the hall... when I get near the boss but before I pass him I turn back around so I'm facing the harpoons - I back up my shaman until I'm in front of the boss which starts the event (The event doesn't trigger when you get near the boss from behind, it only triggers when you're in front fo the bosses face so thats why I "back up through him"). Then, I immediately hit my autorun key and flip back to my tank screen and drop a DnD and 3x magma totems on my shaman, then just concentrate on spam healing my DK while I let the magmas, DnD, UB, etc take out the mobs (don't forget to use cooldowns on your tank to avoid getting gibbed). I also throw in a full array of thunderstorms After I take out the initial wave of trash that spawns I run out and grab the shaman from between the harpoons (the one that was auto running back from the boss area).
If you do it this way you can keep all your guys alive and also knock the boss down in 1 pass and kill him within the time limit :) The key is using a shaman to "trigger" the event and not your tank or yes your shamans will get instagibbed :)
David
03-19-2009, 12:07 PM
I also noticed that you spam one button a lot. Do you have a tank macro for your DK on it? Does it also work for your shamans?
Would be interesting to know how you manage abilities in your group since I`m going to run the same kind of setup.
Hachoo
03-19-2009, 12:29 PM
I have 1 "tanking" macro I spam that is a castsequence for my DK tank. I have a separate button I spam that is my "offense" button for my shamans - can either be LB, or CL, or LvB, or it can be a castrandom.
Aside from that all my other special abilities I need to use are on entirely unique keybinds, for example:
1/alt+2/ctrl+alt+2 = tanking macro
2 = LB
ctrl+2 = CL
ctrl+alt+2 = LvB
alt+2 = Castrandom LB/CL/LvB/Purge
shift+c = 4x flameshock
f1 = DnD
alt+f1 = icebound fort
ctrl+f1 = dark command
v = bone shield
alt + v = anti magic shell (hardly ever use this)
ctrl+c = anti magic zone (hardly ever use this)
4 = rotating earthshocks
5 = 4x thunderstorm
shift+v = rotating thunderstorms
3/ctrl+3 = various heals
ctrl+4 = mana spring totems
alt+4 = healing stream totems
ctrl+alt+4 = 3 mana spring + 1 poison cleanse
ctrl+1 = combination of earth totems (all 4)
alt+f = ToW + 3 searing
shift+f = ToW + 3 magma
ctrl+f = 4 Fire Nova
shift+r = 4x grounding
ctrl+5 = various wind totems (all of them)
shift+t = chains of ice
ctrl+r = death grip
alt+c = 4x earth shock
Ok thats all I can think of now - yes its a ton of buttons, but part of being great at multiboxing is knowing exactly what button to hit and when. I am at work right now and notice I pretty much have every key memorized - I know exactly what button to hit and when I want to hit it and what it does :) Its all about practice.
To be fair though, for PvE during actual combat I really just have to the 1 and 2 key.
Xinxo
03-19-2009, 04:33 PM
Are you going to be able to complete the other vids before your 4 account are closed up ? I'd love to see one for Nexus <3
David
03-19-2009, 04:49 PM
Your going to quit boxing?
Hachoo
03-19-2009, 07:58 PM
Actually I'm probably just going to quite WoW altogether for awhile... I usually quit WoW after 6 months, then 6 months later come back - its been about 7 months now and I'm getting bored. Nexus is actually next on my list of Videos to make so hopefully I can finish it before my 4 slave accounts expire :) Keep an eye out for a Nexus video in the next week or so.
Actually I'm probably just going to quite WoW altogether for awhile... I usually quit WoW after 6 months, then 6 months later come back - its been about 7 months now and I'm getting bored. Nexus is actually next on my list of Videos to make so hopefully I can finish it before my 4 slave accounts expire :) Keep an eye out for a Nexus video in the next week or so.
Nooooooooo!!!!!
missing HoS too
I order you to do the nexus, HoS movies first, NOW! :D
Sad thing that you'll stop playing but hell everybody should do what one wants to, right? :)
Hachoo
03-20-2009, 07:35 PM
Well I ran and videotaped Nexus today - encoding it now then I have to upload it. I also did the chaos theory achievement on anomalus which I think helps see how to do it - its fairly easy to do IMO. Didn't try to do the split personality achievement so instead I showed how to do Telestra the easiest way which is to position your 4 shamans outside the room. Makes the fight a lot easier. Also, for DKs, make SURE you have DnD available when she splits or the splits will wipe your guys. You can see in the video I use 3 abilities on telestra and thats it, then I just spam LB without using my tank macro to save the runes.
Last boss I was trying for the intense cold achievement which I didn't get and it almost cost me the fight at one point when my tank almost died...oh well - aside from that the video came out well.
Not sure if I'll have a chance to do HoS and Oculus before my accounts expire - never been to either one so we'll see.. I almost never record my first pass through because I usually wipe a bunch if the instance isn't straightforward :)
Xinxo
03-20-2009, 08:20 PM
The main this i want to see is how you do Ormorok the Tree-Shaper. For the life of me i can't get my toons under him or move them quick enough to dodge the spikes.
Hachoo
03-20-2009, 08:30 PM
Well I kill him so fast he only has a chance to do 1 spike, but you have 2 options - you can either be literally underneath him, or in my case when the first tiny spikes appeared I ran slightly through him and then turned around. Video is uploading now, I'll link it when its done :)
Hachoo
03-20-2009, 10:01 PM
Ok added Heroic Nexus to the original post :)
puppychow
03-20-2009, 11:47 PM
you can get the last achieve from the dragon boss the regular way (equip PVP trinkets and carry a potion that makes you invuln to chains of ice for 30 secs, if you have a priest just spec disc and mass dispell every few secs while jumping) or there is a dumb-ass way -- simply have one person stand far away, like in the first room or whatever, out of los. the rest of your guys can get 2,3,5 stacks whatever they are comfy healing thru and the person out of combat will get the achieve when the boss is dead.
you should definitely try out halls of stone, the first two bosses and last boss are retardly easy but the brann event is absolutely nuts. i did it once and have never stepped foot in the instance again. oculus is retard easy up to the last boss, and he is just too gimicky for me, esp since if you pug it with 1 it its 10x ezier.
Hachoo
03-21-2009, 07:47 PM
Ok you guys roped me into it. I made a video of Heroic HoS today (oh lord the pain) Brann was a nightmare, took about 10 tries before I got a strategy that worked and even then I lost 2 shamans when I beat it. Put some "special" music in at the end of the Brann fight - it perfectly describes my elation at winning. Encoding video now, will be able to upload it in 30 or so which means it will probably be available in a few hours.
A lot of pain still has to be endured when/if you're going to the Oculus! :D
I'm also looking forward to that. :>
Hachoo
03-22-2009, 01:04 AM
Added Heroic Halls of Stone. Altogether an easy instance, except the Brann event which is the single toughest thing I've ever done in WoW to this point, as a multiboxer and as a solo player. Even while massively overgearing the instance it still took me 10 tries and on the 10th try I still lost 2 shamans when I beat the event. Good luck to everyone, hopefully the video can help someone else finish this event with less pain than it caused me!
Added Heroic Halls of Stone. Altogether an easy instance, except the Brann event which is the single toughest thing I've ever done in WoW to this point, as a multiboxer and as a solo player. Even while massively overgearing the instance it still took me 10 tries and on the 10th try I still lost 2 shamans when I beat the event. Good luck to everyone, hopefully the video can help someone else finish this event with less pain than it caused me!
well that event terrified me from just watching it. i'm probably gonna try everything else at some point though, mages gear still sucks and can only pull 1500 dps. might end up switching them out for my shamans instead in awhile.
Thanks for all the videos Hachoo.
king.pa
03-23-2009, 12:59 PM
OMG ur videos are an incredible help to newbies like me..
I'm pretty amazed by your technics :)
I've tried Gundrak yesterday, and I'm not able to go trough the second boss (the Drakkari Colossus)
Even with your set-up all clones apart... I see the amount of heal provided by your healing strem totems.. almost 300 heal / tick ... and you spend no talent point on the resto branch ..
You should have the Glyph to achieve so much healing through totems.. or something else..
what is it ? can you share your healing tips on this specific boss ?
thanks :)
Hachoo
03-23-2009, 01:43 PM
OMG ur videos are an incredible help to newbies like me..
I'm pretty amazed by your technics :)
I've tried Gundrak yesterday, and I'm not able to go trough the second boss (the Drakkari Colossus)
Even with your set-up all clones apart... I see the amount of heal provided by your healing strem totems.. almost 300 heal / tick ... and you spend no talent point on the resto branch ..
You should have the Glyph to achieve so much healing through totems.. or something else..
what is it ? can you share your healing tips on this specific boss ?
thanks :)Well the healing is more like 220 per tick - I used to get around 260+ per tick when I had the healing stream glyph. I have no tricks or anything, but my shamans each have 2300SP buffed with ToW, and I trinket at the beginning of the fight which bumps the ticks up even more (extra spell power from trinket/blood fury) :)
king.pa
03-24-2009, 05:46 AM
Amazing, TY !!
Ivanhalf
03-26-2009, 11:39 AM
Could you please tell me what addons you are using?
I see there is X-Perl, Some DPS meter (which ine exactly i can not tell) Some sort of scrolling combat text...
But I have absolutely NO idea what is the grey colored rectangle which, as far as I can tell, show you the status of your shamans spellcasting. I've seen there some messages such as "Spell not ready" or "out of range" And you have wery nice Buff tracker (upper left corner of the screen near map) i'd love to get the same for my team.
It will be great help for me in my future attemts to do heroics or normals with my team (now 46, but I level them pretty fast) to know what addons you are using and for what particular reason you've chosen each one of them.
unseen
03-26-2009, 12:12 PM
Could you please tell me what addons you are using?
I see there is X-Perl, Some DPS meter (which ine exactly i can not tell) Some sort of scrolling combat text...
But I have absolutely NO idea what is the grey colored rectangle which, as far as I can tell, show you the status of your shamans spellcasting. I've seen there some messages such as "Spell not ready" or "out of range" And you have wery nice Buff tracker (upper left corner of the screen near map) i'd love to get the same for my team.
It will be great help for me in my future attemts to do heroics or normals with my team (now 46, but I level them pretty fast) to know what addons you are using and for what particular reason you've chosen each one of them.I didn't notice the scrolling combat text you're referring to in the video's I've watched. It could be Mik's scrolling combat text or maybe the built in. The buff tracker is built into x-perl I believe.
The DPS meter is recount, which is pretty nice. You can do all sorts of breakdowns and examine dps, heals and threat.
The grey rectangle is a mod called "Multiboxer" (i believe the last version is v2). It basically reports the status of your party members so you can see their targets, what they're doing, etc. It also handles whisper redirects, invites, rezzes and accepts quest shares. Makes life a bit easier.
Ivanhalf
03-26-2009, 12:45 PM
thank you unseen. you've answered some questions for me.
But i still hope to get full list of addons from the originator of the topic.
Hachoo
03-26-2009, 12:53 PM
Sure... Ok here is the list:
ctmod - this provides the extra ability bars at the bottom, the buff bars at the top right, and some other various functionality
xperl - the unit frames (party frame, my frame, etc)
recount - the dps meter in the lower right
multiboxer v2 - this is the grey rectangle but if you want something like this, get Jamba instead - multiboxer v2 hasn't been maintained in like a year - its a amazing it even runs :)
The scrolling text is just the built in WoW scrolling text
Basically I chose ctmod, x-perl, and recount because I've been using them for years and just like them/am used to them. Multiboxer v2 I am using because when I first started multiboxing 10 months ago or whenever it was, it was the only addon available to help with things that I needed for multiboxing (now jamba does everything mbv2 does and more).
I also use other non-combat related mods like auctioneer, etc :)
Ivanhalf
03-27-2009, 06:41 AM
Thanks Alot!
Will try Jamba today.
Comparing my best equipped shaman (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Madmortem&n=Naoko) with yours (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Haachoo or maybe this one http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Hachu) ... I still don't get how you can reach 5000 dps with them, I hardly ever scratch the 4k dps mark. Is it the haste I do not have but spent in crit? Is it maybe also the spellpower you got from your racial?
I even use the three different macros to use flame shock, lava burst and lightning bolt without any castsequence / castrandom macro affected by latency and stuff.
:/
Hachoo
03-27-2009, 01:12 PM
Comparing my best equipped shaman (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Madmortem&n=Naoko) with yours (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Haachoo or maybe this one http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Hachu) ... I still don't get how you can reach 5000 dps with them, I hardly ever scratch the 4k dps mark. Is it the haste I do not have but spent in crit? Is it maybe also the spellpower you got from your racial?
I even use the three different macros to use flame shock, lava burst and lightning bolt without any castsequence / castrandom macro affected by latency and stuff.
:/Theres 2 major contributing factors that will bump up DPS by 1000-1500 easily.
The first: Don't heal during the boss fight - use all your tank's cooldowns and try to avoid having to heal at all (healing stream totems, etc)
The second: Use bloodlust + all offensive trinkets before you cast your first spell. Stopping after FS/LvB to cast bloodlust + trinket uses up a couple seconds that could be spent firing off 1 1/2 more lightning bolts :)
I've found that not healing will generally bump by DPS by 1000 alone, and usually if I cast BL/trinket at the exact same time I pull the boss with my tank, it bumps my DPS by another 500-800. Last night I was fighting Eck and I got 5100/5100/4800/4000 on my shamans for DPS :)
Thats mostly the exactly same stuff what I do - using divine protection and all sorts of stuff so my Paladin won't need any heal, before the boss is even engaged I activate Heroism / Bloodlust and almost at the same moment when my pull hits the boss my shamans activate Elemental Mastery + all trinkets they got while having cast four Flame Shocks already followed by 4 Lava Bursts which - in most cases - get my shamans really close to pulling aggro from the boss since my paladin hadn't the chance to "tank" a bit. :D
I didn't check my DPS lately but I'll check that on Eck tonight or tomorrow, maybe it's really the haste I am lacking.
puppychow
03-27-2009, 01:25 PM
The problem is that you are using a pally. An unholy DK tank boosts damage by a lot, the tooltip says wandering plague increases spell damage taken by 13% but I wonder if its even more than that. Plus prot pallys take a lot more damage than DK tanks so you HAVE to heal for many bosses, whereas DK tanks can go a long, long, long, long time without heals. I switched from a prot pally to a DK tank and I find it much better once geared up (when I first started with a DK tank I was a bit off, since pally tanks have much better initial aggro, but now I can start DPS right away without pulling, mostly because my DK has gotten good gear).
With patch 3.1 I don't know how the balance works out, and I know a lot of DK opness has been removed (unholy aura, dunno about wandering plague) so probably not worth switching out at this point. 4k dps is great still :)
Of course it's good and I love my paladin, thats for sure. I thought once about the increasted Spelldmg taken - forgot it already but yeah that might be one of the reasons.
I wanted to equip my DK (80 already) to be a tank and I guess I'll go and do that, maybe even running Naxx with him so he'll get good equip sooner than later.
Thanks anyway for mentioning it - just gave me an idea how to proceed next when my shamans can't get any more upgrades and Ill start swapping in other level 80 characters for equip.
And btw - sorry for hijacking that thread for this discussion, it just bothered me. :D
Hachoo
03-27-2009, 02:27 PM
Ah yeah I forgot you have a pally - thats a huge difference... think of it this way (and this is really dumbed down but you get the idea)
If you're doing 4000 dps with a paladin tank, having a DK tank would make your shamans do 4000 * 1.13 = 4520 DPS - thats an increase of 500 just for having a dk tank :) The rest could be attributed to gear, technique, lag, etc.
Fat Tire
03-27-2009, 05:34 PM
Can not thank you enough Hachoo!
Feider
03-30-2009, 10:12 AM
Thank you for the videos. Great music. Now during these boss fights I hear your playlist in my head.
SilverSlice
03-31-2009, 09:35 AM
thanks for your video's mate.
the hol vid did solve a wipe problem i have with the 3 boss mister sparky as i like to call him.
i will try to use your tacts on him this evening
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