4-29 this week

[magwo]

Something similar the week before that. 1740 -> 1523
What happened? Did I just start SUCKING like.. badly?


To be honest, I suspect Blizzard did a hotfix to the rating system to lower the average/median. But maybe that's just me. Maybe I did start sucking badly for no apparent reason 2-3 weeks ago.


QQ

[Multibocks]

Hah I like reading your posts Magwo, as I wont ever touch Arena again. At least I can read about it!

[Zal]

Arena's are broken for boxing shamans. I mostly just get the 10 games a week done and stop, maybe not even that. Haven't been online much lately.

[pinotnoir]

Magwo arena sucks bad. My guys have over 850 res and can die in seconds. PVP is terrible. I have discovered pve and its keeping me happy for now. I will grow tired of it though. My new task is pve with 4dk's and 1 priest. Its my next challenge. I will do my 10 arenas a week for the free points but thats it. Fuck this games pvp it sucks! If I want to pvp I will install call of duty and go online.

[mrmcgee21]

I don't really see much value in humilating yourself for points, arena without 1600+ rating is utterly useless as all items can be obtained through honor as well as arena pts in that bracket. Also we all know BG's are the multibox "stomping grounds" even still ( not as much so as pre 3.0 but .. ) so I imagine you'll enjoy yourself a bit more. I have to be honest even though my team is having better luck right now, arena's just aren't as fun as they used to be. You guys aren't missing much, I really don't even feel like doing games this week ... despite a good rating.

[Zal]

Magwo arena sucks bad. My guys have over 850 res and can die in seconds. PVP is terrible. I have discovered pve and its keeping me happy for now. I will grow tired of it though. My new task is pve with 4dk's and 1 priest. Its my next challenge. I will do my 10 arenas a week for the free points but thats it. Fuck this games pvp it sucks! If I want to pvp I will install call of duty and go online.
WHAT IF you could multibox Call of Duty...

[Dominian]

Cant see whats so bad tbh, all games i lost last week was because of my own mistakes. Aellie have proven that its possible and we just have to realise that you cant faceroll to 1900 rating anymore like it seems obviouse quad shamans did back then if you compare ratings...

I got around 800 resillience and i dont die withing seconds, actually most fights last 3-4 mins now with a paladin.. Im taking down warriors,dks,ferals as first kills, man no way i could have done that 1 month ago!

Getting forced to play vs teams with 3-4 gladiators might seem unfair, but once i can tip the balance in my way favour i can actually farm them.

[merujo]

best week so far

7-3

not doing more than 10 per week because:

pvp sucks atm
sometimes i find my prot paladin more fun than gibin ppl

[Kruschpakx4]

last week 8-3 with s3 paldin

[pinotnoir]

Much of your success is based on having a person healing you. If you cant find anyone who is willing to grind through the learning process of healing your team there is no way to advance. My next arena team is going to be named WTB A Healer. I dont know if you guys have good friends who want to do it or you pay people gold every week. Finding a healer is a boxers biggest problem for arena. Why would someone heal a boxer when they can join a face roll group and get more points without any learning process?

[Dominian]

Much of your success is based on having a person healing you. If you cant find anyone who is willing to grind through the learning process of healing your team there is no way to advance. My next arena team is going to be named WTB A Healer. I dont know if you guys have good friends who want to do it or you pay people gold every week. Finding a healer is a boxers biggest problem for arena. Why would someone heal a boxer when they can join a face roll group and get more points without any learning process?

What? I never had problems finding a healer simply because people find it to be such a cool setup to play.

The spam i get by healers is crazy, i always get 4-5 whispers.

/2 lf healer 5v5 need to be skilled and geared (quad-boxing setup + healer)

After that i just tell them that its not the best combo etc but all ive played with have been ok with that so far.

[Kruschpakx4]

Never ask for healer in /2 every noob has full 25

My paladin has just s3 an 2 deadly gladi items but he's merciless glad;

i played weeks ago with a 25geared pala with 2k+ add heal and i played like 10-5

with my new pally i play like 7-3 on 1750, he has about 1500 add spell

[Dominian]

Never ask for healer in /2 every noob has full 25

My paladin has just s3 an 2 deadly gladi items but he's merciless glad;

i played weeks ago with a 25geared pala with 2k+ add heal and i played like 10-5

with my new pally i play like 7-3 on 1750, he has about 1500 add spell

If you dont know any people on the server i cant see whats so bad with trying.. There are tons of good players that arent gladiator, lots who plays with RL friends. If theyr crap it usualy dont take long to realise it and drop them.

7-3 says nothing on whatever rating your at due to "hidden rating" . You simply cant decide if hes good by looking on your win/loss. You have to take into account theyr setup,skill,luck, to compare him to your old paladin! We had the 8-16 2 weeks ago and went up 100 rating, we was chained vs mostly 1950+ teams.

But ofc if you take a random guy with epic gear and 1200 rating in 3vs3 it will most likley fail.

[Ellay]

mrmcgee nailed it. We are both doing relatively well, I think I hit 1968 or so and then dropped down a bit and he is similar in scenario. Something is amiss about arenas at the moment, maybe it's 5's? I'm not quite sure but it's losing the 'fun factor'. I have been dabbling around just playing 1 with friends to enjoy it more in 2's and 3's.
Before reading this thread though I was thinking about it this weekend, and perhaps for me it is that I've done this already in the past and now I am doing it all over again but it is definitely not as easy, and sometimes you just bang your head against the wall on the crazy scenario's that unfold within the game.

[magwo]

I was thinking though.. for some time I've been gearing more and more towards crit instead of spell power.. and my decline in arena performance has gone hand-in-hand with my increasing crit chance.. not sure if it's related.

[pinotnoir]

I was thinking though.. for some time I've been gearing more and more towards crit instead of spell power.. and my decline in arena performance has gone hand-in-hand with my increasing crit chance.. not sure if it's related.

That is not the reason. PVP is terrible. Thats the reason.

[Gomotron]

I am 5-5 this week, but mainly because the 5 wins were against teams that only zoned in 2 or 3 people. Not sure what happened there but I'll be happy to take advantage!

I am still amazed at how anyone can consistently win arenas. I know I am a noob when it comes to PvP and worse than useless in arenas, but still I am amazed because I usually last about 30 seconds once the combat begins.

With better gear, I am lasting maybe a minute now. The problem is that I go all spastic with the keypresses and probably end up hurting myself because of it. I'd like to say that I'm improving, but realistically it's probably no better.

[Dominian]

Actually had 6-6 and a 50 rating gained due to winning against high rated and well played teams.

HOWEVER sunday i my paladin was eager to play and i wasnt realy in the mood + beeing realy hangover and tired. We lost 6 matches straight just because i wasnt able to focus and play well. We could have won em all if i simply had been able to play like normal! :(

Faced one combo i felt helpless vs this week and that was.

Mage/Mage/Boomkin/Elemental shaman/resto druid

Groundings were gone within a GC (well it felt like that) and the damage was simply insane. Once i started chainhealing i was knockbacked by the boomkin, should have focused the boomkin i guess since he cant IB like the mages.

[Frappuccino]

I tried 'properly' for the first time last night. By properly I mean with a single healer friend who just hit 80 2 days ago. Naturally he's under geared.

But more than that is just how not-used to PvP with my shamans I am.. dealing with melee weaving behind me etc, it's very hard to deal with. But I look back to when I first started boxing instances without a tank that out geared the place and remember how flustered and gumby I was and compared to how I am now (can clear almost all heroics) and think yea I just need some time.

I need some more gear too, I'm just shy of 700 res and have 18k hp.. not really enough, also I think dps is still too high across the board for in 5's now which doesn't help. Strats n all are good if there is actually time to pull them off.

I'd like to hear some success stories too though.. how you dealt with those annoying melee running behidn you etc.. :D Any raw unedited fraps clips of arena would be cool too.

[paalman]

Im allso just afking my 10 games...
Got 804 resil, but getting killed in a few seconds.
Im started doing 3v3 with me and 2 friends retri pala and feral drood, they both have 0 resil
and it was easy to keep my 1500 rating..
im the healer in this team, and only time i manage to live more than 10 sec is when pala gives me protection...
:( rlly disliking shaman
And when i 3 box im lucky to stay alive for more than 5 sec...
pff :'(

[Ellay]

Shamans are the second strongest healers in the game, when 3.1 hits I expect that to change dramatically but right now they are in good shape which hurts the influence of Ele and Enhancement getting any types of good buffs.

[magwo]

You sure about that? I was under the impression that the big reason Resto shammies are popular in arenas atm is due to:

4 * High burst * 1.4 = silly

[Dominian]

Just when you thought things was bad this new shadow priest skill jumps in!

Psychic Horror (New Skill) - You terrify the target, causing them to tremble in horror for 3 sec and drop all weapons for 10 sec. (16% of base mana, 30 yd range, Instant cast, 1 min cooldown)

Guess that even now the tremor doesnt tick after 3 seconds but with this and a fear bomb after things can get REALY ugly.

[Ellay]

If you use SK - 100 as a gauge of what works and what doesn't in Arenas through all the brackets, Shamans have a 14% representation which is #3 out of 10 classes. Which is kind of staggering since there are more Shamans in the top 100 than Rogues/Mages/Druids/Warriors Combined. Every single one of those Shamans is also Resto heh :)

There is 2 Shaman in the top 10 on Tournament Realm as well, where some classes don't even exist.

[Ellay]

Oh ya I wanted to add that Druids will probably be #1 healers again when 3.1 comes out, they are receiving bar none RETARDED buffs, and priests will be close to equal footing as Shamans so we'll drop down in that department, though this has nothing to do really with multiboxing - it does effect our buff/nerfage.

[Souca]

Couple things I wanted to point out. First, if you expect to win more than 50%, you had better be the best. The way the system is supposed to work is that you will settle into a rating where you are equally matched and win as often as you lose. The system may be broken, but expecting to win more than you lose is a slim proposition.

The second thing is just an observation on the tournament realm. It's both fun and frustrating at the same time. Haven't been doing much 3s yet, but running DK and Shockadin Pally in 2s has been interesting. Most matches are long and consist of me running around after a target hoping to get them low enough and out of LoS of the healer so I can finally finish them off. We have only really been burst down once and that was a mage/rogue combo. Been up against a few shammy and while lava burst hurts it's not a game ender. The worst match we had was agaisnt two disc priests with no intention of winning. I don't think either myself or the pally ever dropped below 90%, but I'm sure we had each of them at 10% more than 20 times only to get hit with a psychic scream or another break as we watch them heal to full. After we finally manage to kill one of them the other spent another 5 minutes pole humping trying to put off the loss. They could only have won if we both left the match. It was comic in the frustration.

Anyway, not sure if this adds anything, but I'm stuck at work and I needed to distract my brain.

Oh, gonna 2 box shammy with the pally healing and see how it plays out. Worst case I'll get my 200 matches in and get my murloc pet.

- Souca -

[magwo]

The way the system is supposed to work is that you will settle into a rating where you are equally matched and win as often as you lose.

This has always been the case.