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balelor
02-18-2009, 01:26 PM
.....do I need to get for my toons before I can start using my 71 DK to group with them and use the RAF exp. bonus. I tried a test usingmy 50 rogue and a level 1 mage on my RAF account and was only getting 1exp per kill and they were grouped. I understand I can tag it with the RAF accounts and then kill it with the DK, but I thought u could group all 5 together and use the 3x exp mutipler. Am I wrong? 8| Group is going to be 71DK and 4 shamans.

Thnks for any help.

Maxion
02-18-2009, 02:48 PM
For the lower level character to get the bonus when grouped with a higher level character on a linked account, the mob needs to not be gray level to the high level.
How many levels this means varies by level, but a maximum of 8 levels should be enough i think, so when your toons hit lvl 63 or so they could group with your 71 and get the bonus, except the bonus ends at lvl 60.

To group your 71 with them and them to still get the bonus, the 71 would have to be on an account that is not linked to any of the low lvl ones.

Gnies
02-18-2009, 03:58 PM
lvl your lower toon doing quests to lvl 10 at the min. preferably 15, then hit your instance. im alliance so i head to stockades, then to scarlet monestary, then to brd, then to strat.

elsegundo
02-18-2009, 04:08 PM
.....do I need to get for my toons before I can start using my 71 DK to group with them and use the RAF exp. bonus. I tried a test usingmy 50 rogue and a level 1 mage on my RAF account and was only getting 1exp per kill and they were grouped. I understand I can tag it with the RAF accounts and then kill it with the DK, but I thought u could group all 5 together and use the 3x exp mutipler. Am I wrong? 8| Group is going to be 71DK and 4 shamans.

Thnks for any help.no one does this (mob tagging). this is such a waste of time.

level them to 8, or 10 if you're alliance. take them to rfc, or sfk if you're alliance.
repeat til you hands fall off.
go to SM, repeat till your arms fall off.
go to strat, repeat til you get sick in the stomach.

hopefully this takes you less than two days /played to avoid going insane.
additionally, search the forums for the proper way to link your accounts. or go on the official site to check out their FAQ.

Souca
02-18-2009, 04:19 PM
.....do I need to get for my toons before I can start using my 71 DK to group with them and use the RAF exp. bonus. I tried a test usingmy 50 rogue and a level 1 mage on my RAF account and was only getting 1exp per kill and they were grouped. I understand I can tag it with the RAF accounts and then kill it with the DK, but I thought u could group all 5 together and use the 3x exp mutipler. Am I wrong? 8| Group is going to be 71DK and 4 shamans.

Thnks for any help.How many accounts do you have? From the post I'm guessing just two. If that's the case, then you won't be able to use a high level to help and still get the triple XP. For a RaF account to get triple XP it must be in a group with another RaF character it is linked to and both of the linked characters need to be able to earn xp for the mob, i.e. it isn't grey to them.

Hope this help.

- Souca -

elsegundo
02-18-2009, 04:27 PM
.....do I need to get for my toons before I can start using my 71 DK to group with them and use the RAF exp. bonus. I tried a test usingmy 50 rogue and a level 1 mage on my RAF account and was only getting 1exp per kill and they were grouped. I understand I can tag it with the RAF accounts and then kill it with the DK, but I thought u could group all 5 together and use the 3x exp mutipler. Am I wrong? 8| Group is going to be 71DK and 4 shamans.

Thnks for any help.How many accounts do you have? From the post I'm guessing just two. If that's the case, then you won't be able to use a high level to help and still get the triple XP. For a RaF account to get triple XP it must be in a group with another RaF character it is linked to and both of the linked characters need to be able to earn xp for the mob, i.e. it isn't grey to them.

Hope this help.

- Souca -Souca, emphasized for clarification.

Vyndree
02-18-2009, 04:43 PM
I tried a test usingmy 50 rogue and a level 1 mage on my RAF account and was only getting 1exp per kill and they were grouped. I understand I can tag it with the RAF accounts and then kill it with the DK, but I thought u could group all 5 together and use the 3x exp mutipler.

Since you mentioned dragging a low level 1 around and killing stuff with your 50 rogue...

...they long since removed the ability to do that using RAF. People were exploiting the RAF bonus by dragging around a level 1 ghost on /follow and getting full RAF bonus XP. This is not intended.

As stated in the official RAF faq ('http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765628748&sid=1'), dated 8/8/2008...

•While in a party together, any experience gains are increased significantly.
•If both players are present when the mob is killed both players should receive triple experience.
•If the mob is trivial to either character, no experience bonus is earned.
This means that if you have Player A (level 50 veteran character) grouped with Player B (level 30 RaF character) and they kill a mob that is level 32, since the mob is trivial to Player A, no bonus experience is awarded.
•If both players are present, experience gained from quests that are not trivial (gray difficulty or 5 levels below your level) will be tripled for both characters


A more recent official FAQ is stickied in the customer service forums here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679802928&sid=1&pageNo=1#12

Souca
02-18-2009, 07:50 PM
Group is going to be 71DK and 4 shamans.

Souca, emphasized for clarification.Ah. Missed that. Also I completely missed what was trying to be done. Vyndree's post helped me get what they were attempting. Did even know if ever worked.

- Souca -

balelor
02-19-2009, 12:29 PM
I am so confused 8| I see people talking about boosting using instances after the toons are level 8? How does it work if the group has 1 - lvl 80 and 4 - lvl 8s, since every mob is trivial to the level 80?

:wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

Owltoid
02-19-2009, 12:53 PM
I am so confused 8| I see people talking about boosting using instances after the toons are level 8? How does it work if the group has 1 - lvl 80 and 4 - lvl 8s, since every mob is trivial to the level 80?

:wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

I see why you're confused and I also don't understand Vyndree's post.

Although Blizzard may change it in the future, many users who do RAF do take a higher level toon and powerlevel lower level toons through instances. If your higher level toon is 80, and your new toon is 10, then that RAF link will not be active and the lowbie will not get 3x exp. However, if your higher level toon is 80, your new toon is 10, and another new toon that is RAF linked to the 10 is in the group and withing the level range, then the two lowbies will get 3x exp. In other words, if your only RAF link is through the high level and the low level then it will not work. You will need two low level toons that have a RAF link and a third high level if you plan to powerlevel through instances (a total of at least 3 accounts).

Taliesin
02-19-2009, 01:01 PM
I am so confused 8| I see people talking about boosting using instances after the toons are level 8? How does it work if the group has 1 - lvl 80 and 4 - lvl 8s, since every mob is trivial to the level 80?

:wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

I see why you're confused and I also don't understand Vyndree's post.

Although Blizzard may change it in the future, many users who do RAF do take a higher level toon and powerlevel lower level toons through instances. If your higher level toon is 80, and your new toon is 10, then that RAF link will not be active and the lowbie will not get 3x exp. However, if your higher level toon is 80, your new toon is 10, and another new toon that is RAF linked to the 10 is in the group and withing the level range, then the two lowbies will get 3x exp. In other words, if your only RAF link is through the high level and the low level then it will not work. You will need two low level toons that have a RAF link and a third high level if you plan to powerlevel through instances (a total of at least 3 accounts).

This is how I did it. I already had a 70 mage (before WotLK was released) and started two new accounts that were linked. I leveled up two linked lowbies by grouping the 70 and running instance after instance. The base xps were rather poor, but with the group and RAF bonuses, it went pretty quick.

I don't know if this still works, as I finished my leveling grind before they came out with their first round of "fixes" for RAF bonuses. I suspect that this technique may still work, though, as it really isn't an "exploit".

Vyndree
02-19-2009, 02:02 PM
Notice that, when the RAF-linked toons kill a mob that is trivial to either character, they do not receive the RAF bonus.

My earlier post was simply that -- since the OP has two RAF-linked accounts, and is grouping two RAF-linked characters, and one of his RAF-linked characters is level 50 and one is level 1, he cannot get triple XP unless the killed mob gives experience to BOTH the level 50 character and the level 1 character. I even added the official blue post on the matter. I don't really see why that was a confusing post, since it applies directly to the OP's quoted text.


How does it work if the group has 1 - lvl 80 and 4 - lvl 8s, since every mob is trivial to the level 80?

Anyway, my previous post says NOTHING about anyone ELSE in their party who is NOT connected via RAF. (i.e. a 3rd account with a high-level character to whom the mobs are trivial, boosting the two RAF-linked low-level characters to whom the mobs still give experience)

However, I have to add another quote from the same thread on 8/8/08 ('http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765628748&sid=1')...

Q: How does the bonus experience work?

Let's say we have Account A with a level 70 character, Account B with a level 1 character and Account C with another level 1 character, all three characters are grouped. Account B and Account C are linked, will they receive triple experience?


A: Bonus experience should only be granted if the experience is not trivial to anyone in the group. Our Quality Assurance Team is looking into reports that some of these restrictions are not consistent and hope to resolve the issue soon.
...noting that they've been saying this since the advent of RAF... so it will be patched "soon". However, it is not bannable exploit to utilize this bugged method of boosting until it is patched -- just don't cry to me if 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months from now in the middle of your boosting you all of a sudden lose your RAF bonus when grouping with a non-RAF-linked high level character.

balelor
02-19-2009, 02:13 PM
I am currently playing on 2 accounts already so this is how is works:

Account 1 = 80 boosting
Account 2 invites Account 3,4,5 for the RAF.

All 5 group up after level 10 or so and I have it?

Vyndree
02-19-2009, 03:02 PM
I am currently playing on 2 accounts already so this is how is works:

Account 1 = 80 boosting
Account 2 invites Account 3,4,5 for the RAF.

All 5 group up after level 10 or so and I have it?

You would have 300% experience on accounts 2, 3, 4 and 5 as long as the mobs were NOT trivial to any of those characters.

The mobs can be trivial to account 1.


That is, until the "bug" gets "fixed". Currently, though, you would get 300% experience. Just don't get sad if it gets taken away mid-boosting. They've been telling us they're going to remove this functionality for months and months now.