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bryce
02-07-2009, 01:35 AM
So, my team's levels are screwed up. Any suggestions on how I can get em all the same level again?

Account A (pally/main) - level 29
Account B (mage/alt) - level 29
Account C (mage/alt) - level 28
Account D (mage/alt) - level 29
Account E (priest/alt) - level 28

A referred B
B referred C
C referred D
D referred E

Shouldn't it let me grant levels to C and E or what? Or anyone got any suggestions on getting them even again? Because the next quest area starts at level 29 and I want them all to be even to start at the same time :(

heffner
02-07-2009, 01:46 AM
It happens. With class quests etc. Some people just do collection quests on those that are lower level. I never worried about it personally. My team always differed by 10-20%.

Yo-Yo Freak
02-07-2009, 01:48 AM
you can grant a level from ToonD to ToonC but but ToonD can not grant a point to ToonE and no slave account is linked to ToonE's account so it can not get a free level up.

need a little info to be of real help though. how far away from lvl 29 or those 2 toons? if they arent that far then just group only them and tag and bag with all characters. have 1 of the 2 charaters that are lvl 28 tag or "attack" a mob and then blast the mob away with all 5. only the toon and whatever other toon is in the same group as that toon (should be your other character at lvl 28) will get exp from killing the mob. then just rinse and repeat untill they are all about equal.

if you need more clarification on the limits of RAF then here is link to the Blizz info on it:
http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20588&rhtml=true?rhtml=y

hope this helps some^_^

~YYF

EDIT
the 8) face is actually 8 + ) if you didn't know that already, some people don't so just making it a little clearer ^_^

Starbuck_Jones
02-07-2009, 01:54 AM
My 5 man team got way out of sync. What I did was at level 40. I was grinding out in SM. When the first toon hit 40, I sent them back to town and continued on. I repeated this as each toon hit level 40 till I was down to my last straggler, who I soloed with till it dinged 40 then went back to 5 manning. I repeated this at level 60 too, but it wasn't near as bad as level 40. Mostly they got off because one mage would die, I would kill the pull and over time that one mage for whatever reason just got further and further behind. It took in the end about 3 hours of solo play to get him caught up. This was all pre RAF etc.

Once they get down a level it gets worse as they get less xp per kill than toons a level or two above.

Hachoo
02-07-2009, 02:02 AM
If you just keep leveling it will even out on it's own - every level takes more xp to complete and so the higher level they get the less time they will spend at different levels.

But aside from that, what does it matter if their levels are off? It doesn't hurt anything :) They'll all cap out at level 80 either way.

bryce
02-07-2009, 02:49 AM
To those who said to grant a level from the referring account or whatever, I've tried that and it seems I can't do it to the lower alts, so I guess I'll just keep on questing until they even out.

nomenquis
02-07-2009, 09:25 AM
Another nice method to get xp on only some toons is to turn in cloth in capital cities.

I think with raf that alone is good for some levels.

kind regards

mikekim
02-07-2009, 10:28 AM
If you just keep leveling it will even out on it's own - every level takes more xp to complete and so the higher level they get the less time they will spend at different levels.

But aside from that, what does it matter if their levels are off? It doesn't hurt anything :) They'll all cap out at level 80 either way.

it can catch you out sometimes if the quest becomes trivial to the higher party members and you then don't get triple XP on a turn in.

I tend to skip quests on the higher level characters to try and even them out.. I normally try to keep them within 10-20k of each other (as its always nice when they all ding at the same time from a quest turn in :thumbup: )

Hachoo
02-07-2009, 12:55 PM
If you just keep leveling it will even out on it's own - every level takes more xp to complete and so the higher level they get the less time they will spend at different levels.

But aside from that, what does it matter if their levels are off? It doesn't hurt anything :) They'll all cap out at level 80 either way.

it can catch you out sometimes if the quest becomes trivial to the higher party members and you then don't get triple XP on a turn in.

I tend to skip quests on the higher level characters to try and even them out.. I normally try to keep them within 10-20k of each other (as its always nice when they all ding at the same time from a quest turn in :thumbup: )For that to happen you'd have to be doing a quest that was like 6 levels below your lowest level character which would make it grey to your highest level. This should never, ever happen with RAF. I leveled 2 teams to 60 and never once had to do a green quest at all much less a quest 6 levels below me. With RAF even skipping all collection quests there soooo many more quests available then you need to do that its ridiculous.

Coltimar
02-07-2009, 01:56 PM
While Fur is right in stating the obvious, it can be a pain when there is a level discrepancy. If you go to a new zone some toons can't get all the quests, etc. What I do is pick up the collection quests you usually skip on those lower toons. I used to do a bit of out of group leveling (tag with the lower toon and burn with the others not in my group) but I got nervous when folks started getting banned for taking this too far. It may have been nerfed to hades anyways.

Sam DeathWalker
02-07-2009, 03:44 PM
You make 2 groups "D/E" and "A/B/C".

You make your "attack key" to be castsequence where D/E tag:

/assist Samdeathwkzz
/castsequence reset=6/combat Earth Shock, Lightning Bolt,,

A/B/C help kill:

/assist Samdeathwkzz
/castsequence reset=6/combat Null, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt

D/E get the exp. As they rise in level E can grant to D and then D grants to C, C to B and B to A. Once they get the same level you can then go back to normal.

Starbuck_Jones
02-07-2009, 05:23 PM
It wont even out if you keep leveling till you level cap. Once some of your group levels ahead of those that are behind, the xp delta between them grows. For example if they all were getting say 300xp a kill then one guy levels but the rest don't. The higher level guy will get like 310xp and the rest get 290. As you get higher and higher and the longer you don't correct it, the ones that fall behind can get WAY behind.

Hachoo
02-07-2009, 09:53 PM
It should be the opposite of that. Each level you gain, fighting the same level mobs gives you that much less xp no? Also once you get a level ahead don't you stop gaining raf bonuses?

Shaitan256
02-07-2009, 10:05 PM
I think it was only no RAF XP for the ones above so the other one could get to his lvl, but the difference must not be to far away from each other. Means:
RAF Char A and B
B is 29 A is 28
A gets RAF B not

is it that easy?! I hope^^

Starbuck_Jones
02-07-2009, 10:27 PM
You have to be 4+ levels apart before the raf bonus quits.

Shaitan256
02-07-2009, 10:33 PM
You have to be 4+ levels apart before the raf bonus quits.

But it counts only for the 1 below or still for both ?

Starbuck_Jones
02-07-2009, 11:17 PM
Do our characters (my character and my recruit's character) have to be same level in order to receive triple experience?
No, but you must be within 4 levels of one another in order for both characters to receive triple experience. If this level requirement is not met, only the lower level character will receive the bonus.
For example: Should your character be 5 levels higher than your recruit, only your recruit's character will be eligible for triple experience.
http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=25716
This will not catch your lower level guy up. Just help him get back to the 4 level difference.

Shaitan256
02-07-2009, 11:24 PM
That was what I meant (with the no XP) Didn't know that they set a lvl difference for that, as I read it first in the German RAF FAQ there were something standing like lower and higher but nothing specific, as everything blizz tolds first, until you experience the results yourself :P

Thanks for quoting it^^

HPB
02-08-2009, 11:11 AM
Due to deaths while instance boosting at low levels, a few rare cases of quests not credited to all toons and whatnot, there was a significant level difference between my paladins (and also between my shamen). It seems that for both teams my 'main' is 4/5 of a level ahead of the lowest alt. So for a fifth of a level or so, everyone is together. Most of the time, there are some toons a level higher than the rest. It doesn't stop me from questing. It doesn't really hurt at all. Once that little gap starts though, it doesn't go away on its own. Even with extra gathering quests on the 'lowbies' they never did catch up all the way.

*edited typo*

5fingersofdoom
02-09-2009, 01:20 PM
My 5 man team got way out of sync. What I did was at level 40. I was grinding out in SM. When the first toon hit 40, I sent them back to town and continued on. I repeated this as each toon hit level 40 till I was down to my last straggler, who I soloed with till it dinged 40 then went back to 5 manning. I repeated this at level 60 too, but it wasn't near as bad as level 40. Mostly they got off because one mage would die, I would kill the pull and over time that one mage for whatever reason just got further and further behind. It took in the end about 3 hours of solo play to get him caught up. This was all pre RAF etc.

Once they get down a level it gets worse as they get less xp per kill than toons a level or two above.

Exactly
what I do,SM works great for balancing groups,its easy to figure out
after doing it a few times how many mobs/rooms you need to hit your
targets.
Another point RAFing at lower levels really does go by
fast,its when you get into the 45-60 bracket where syncing levels is
more important.
GL with your lvling :)

elsegundo
02-09-2009, 03:27 PM
when leveling at 71 requires millions of exp... just a few thousand at level 29 doesnt really seem that different. sure, it makes training a bit easier, but hey... you can skip training for 4-6 levels at a time with five guys.
also, they eventually catch up. dont ask me how it happens, but it does.
lastly, dont waste your grant levels on your leveling toons. if it bugs you that much, have all the lower levels pick up an extra quest. pick up a quest to be sent somewhere and send them there. easy. or while you're leveling, give one a collection quest while the others skip the collection quest.