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Furystrike
02-01-2009, 12:31 PM
Zero wanted to know if I had cleared AN, so I put this together real quick. I have been farming this zone for the tanking rings with +DEFENSE. It's quite a fun zone. 15 mins, 3 bosses and you are in and out. Plus the entrance to this zone is a fantastic place to farm HK's (Honor Kills) from the alliance. Nothing like a lower level group of DKs taking out a group of 80 alliance. I think I need to start getting some PVP footage as well, because that is half the fun of having a group of DK's like this.

Anyways, hope you all enjoy:

http://www.wegame.com/watch/5Boxing_DKs_through_AzjolNerub/

suicidesspyder
02-01-2009, 02:50 PM
Nice job, but i think i went dizzy lol but its all cool.

Norrin
02-01-2009, 02:54 PM
I must say I love watching your videos. It was your first couple of videos (BF and Ramps I think) that inspired me to start a DK team, of which I am loving.

I need to go back thru your posts, as I think you briefly described your macro setup.
I am wondering now that your of a higher a level (I think you were at 63ish were you talked about your macros), has muched changed?

Currently My main spams IT, PS, Pest, DS, DS
And the slaves spam IT, PS, Pest
Then I have a key set for Rune Tap, and Mark of Blood.

I would love to get a Death and Decay but have not really investegated mouse click broadcasting.
Also I need to setup Death Grip for the slaves, currently I just have my main Grip.

Thanks again for the great videos.

Furystrike
02-01-2009, 03:02 PM
Thanks Norrin. I have 1 button that is the same for each toon. It checks to see who is alive (I have a leader order). It then follows that person, targets their target and keeps the pet on that mob. I spam that while also spamming IT, PS and Blood Strike (heart strike not worth it for me I dont think). I have this setup for the first 3 toons. The only different is that on the last 2 toons I replace blood strike with pestilence to spread the diseases. You can see that work in this video on the first boss (Krik'Thir The Gatewatcher).

I have Obliterate and Death Coil on different keys, but they are consistent between all toons. My usual rotation is to spam the first three til I build up alot of runic power, then spam obliterate and death coil. Death Grip is on a key, but I don't usually spam them all at once. I will click them individually. This helps alot when you get an alliance running from you. You can keep pulling them in over and over LOL.

Death and Decay can be done with a program called Inner Space. I am a lazy tird, so I havent put it on the DKs yet, but I know it is possible. Zero uses it from time to time as well. Anyways, glad you liked the video. :thumbup:

suicidesspyder
02-01-2009, 03:48 PM
hey fury how do u get wegame to start recording i set it up and bound tilde to be my hot key to start recording but its not starting the process really wanna start recording stuff now.

Thanks

king.pa
02-01-2009, 06:57 PM
it appears that blood aura stacks afterall ? when you hit for 1000 on a mob you receive 4 % of the hit x 5 ? so you're healled for 40 hp x 5 : 200 hp ? 20% of your total damages ???
thats awesome :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

can you confirm that ? :?: :?:
thx

edit : your main toon isn't always the tank .... are all your guys in frost presence ? you should cast death and decay with your main char, which generate a lot of aggro ...
or you deal with multiple target change... quite interesting though

Furystrike
02-01-2009, 09:24 PM
Hi King.PA,

Yes, Blood Aura stacks. A lot of people misunderstand it, so I will try to explain. When 5 boxing and having the other 4 auras on you from your other toons, you get your own blood aura (4% health from dmg YOU do) and the other 4 blood auras (16% health from dmg YOU do) for a total of %20. You hit for 1000, you get healed for 200. Blood Presence however, does NOT stack with Blood aura in any way, shape or form. So for 5 boxing, it's best to have all your guys talented to have a minimum of 2/2 Blood Aura (for 20% health return on dmg you do) and be in Frost Presence for the dmg mitigation.

And yes, you are correct. My main is not always the "main tank" and that is on purpose. I specced them all as "tanks" and with very high defense. So, it really doesn't matter which is pulling more aggro, they will be able to take the dmg. On Heroics, my thought was if one is taking too much dmg, use death grip on another briefly while the first is doing dmg and "healing". #2 is taking too much dmg, use death grip on #3, and so on. Between rotations, rune tap, and so on, they should be able to endure through just about anything.

Death and Decay still isn't really all that to be honest. I much prefer to focus on pestilence. That does much more dmg in the long run and is quite a bit easier to get off.

Suicide - I use CAMSTUDIO (Fraps wont work for whatever reason for me) to record segments of 5-6 mins at a time, name them, and repeat. Then I import them into Windows Movie Maker to make one file with audio/video. Then I will upload the final product into Wegame or Vimeo (Vimeo is much faster)

Zerocool2024
02-01-2009, 11:56 PM
Hey, great video Fury :thumbup:

As soon as my toons hit 72, I ran there and cleared it as well. It really is an easy zone like you said. Only had a couple of problems here and there, but all in all, going to keep doing it to get all of them the ring.

Multibocks
02-02-2009, 12:32 AM
fyi this instance sucks because not much gives xp except the bosses


:thumbdown:

p.s. what level are your guys now? I just hit 74, woot.

Multibocks
02-02-2009, 11:33 AM
nm I see your guys are 75 now, I'mma catch you! So every one of your guys is specced deep into blood right? Wonder how that is for tanking compared to frost and unholy, never really seen a blood tank.

edit: I see your spec for 80, I was interested in trying a spec that included blood worms, healing aura and bone shield. Lots of healing and lots of damage reduction. However you miss out on deep talents and dont get the 15% more armor talent either... actually you miss out on the slowing effect for frost too... hmm that doesnt sound too good. I also wondered why no one is taking heart strike, it sounds good on paper (hitting 2 targets with it is hella nice.)

Furystrike
02-02-2009, 01:33 PM
No, not deep into blood. They are deep enough to get bloodworms 3/3 and Blood aura 2/2. The rest is a touch in frost and the rest in unholy. Look up my armory and you will see. Bløødfiend (alt 0248 for the special O's) has the highest defense right now, but I am working on getting the others up to date as well. I finally got them all the tanking ring from Azjol-Nerub (final boss). Now will work on getting them the quested ring from Drak'Tharon Keep (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39650). With these two rings, I can free up some other items to get the attack back up.

Multibocks
02-02-2009, 01:43 PM
Interesting build, see I was checking the new fake patch notes and one thing mentioned was Heart Strike going up to 4 targets hit (!!!!!) so if that's true I may go deep blood for all. I'm just not sure about missing talents that up heart strike ( I see you skipped that and went vendetta). Being as you have no healer I understand, though. I built a level 80 talent spec that went blood worms and aura and then went into unholy to get bone shield. However this skips any ice talents and I worry that the +armor and Icy Touch upgrade are just too mandatory to skip.

edit: I wish there were a DK forum where we could discuss these things, lol. I hate derailing your posts. Would you mind listing the attack sequence you have running on your tank and slaves? I would appreciate it much!

Furystrike
02-02-2009, 02:35 PM
Someone else asked me this before, but I do not use castsequence on any of my guys. If one gets stunned or gets off of the "sequence" in any way, it just hinders their dps more than helps them. I spam IT, PS and Blood Strike on 3 of my 5. On the other 2, in place of Blood Strike, I use Pestilence to spread the diseases if I am fighting large crowds. I spam these three til I have a lot of runic power, then will start spamming obliterate and deathcoils. Works great, damage is good and things die quick, which is always a good thing.

If I know there is no AOE to deal with, I take out pestilence and just have them blood strike as normal on the other 2. Heart Strike sounds interesting. If I go that deep though, I am giving up either some defense and losing out in the frost tree or I can't go deep enough in unholy to keep the full time pets. I guess I will be doing a lot of experimentation at 80 to see which is best. For right now, this works out ok.

Elitist Jerks has a good site on the inner workings of DK's along with incredible math and facts to prove their theorys. Deathknight.Info is another place that has some good info on the class that I frequent as well.

Multibocks
02-02-2009, 02:59 PM
How do you make sure that every guy is on his rotation? Seems it would be difficult and that's why I use a /castsequence. Ya if they get off the rotation it sucks, but I just dont see how I can make sure everyone is hitting on everything.

Furystrike
02-02-2009, 03:13 PM
You just have to watch them close. If my #2 guy is hitting, I know #3,4,5 are hitting also. since they are on follow on the "leader". I have found with melee, its good to be on the front "side" of them. On really large mobs, if you are in the middle of them or under them, you start getting "You are not facing in the right direction" or whatever that annoying msg is. The only time I will fight head on is if I know there are no knockbacks or AOE attacks incoming.

In those cases, I just stack all my guys on top of each other and go to town. I would really love to tell you there is a science to the whole thing, but I have just gotten to the point where I know whats going on in a half a second and fix the problem on the fly. I play with all my guys on one monitor, 1 pc. These guys that are playing with 3 or more different monitors I just don't get. I have a smaller "view", yes. But I see everything and can react much quicker if all my views are very close to each other.

When I am running through a zone, I will usually have one guy facing backwards as a "rear view mirror" of sorts, one looking to the left and one to the right. The other is looking up a little. I cannot tell you how many times I have quickly moved and pulled someone out of the sky to kill them in about 2 seconds. I know they are like "WTF just happened". 5 boxing with your views closely together like this prevents you from being "surprised".

Multibocks
02-02-2009, 03:21 PM
lol nice, I didnt know you could force the camera to stay in rear view mode. (Learn something new everyday!) As soon as I let go of mouse the camera returns to top down view. How did you do that?

edit: So whats your next dungeon to try? OK? Or maybe Drak/Gun?

Furystrike
02-03-2009, 04:38 PM
lol nice, I didnt know you could force the camera to stay in rear view mode. (Learn something new everyday!) As soon as I let go of mouse the camera returns to top down view. How did you do that?

edit: So whats your next dungeon to try? OK? Or maybe Drak/Gun?

Somewhere in your interface there is a camera follow mode option. Just select "NEVER" on that and you can point the view to however you wish and it will stay that way. Next project is Drak'Tharon Keep. I ran it last night for the first time. 0 deaths and cleared all 4 bosses. Last boss was funny. I was fighting him forever it seemed like. I could only do damage at certain points, the rest of the time I was not able to attack, in skeleton form and going WTF?!?! So....LOL....while I was fighting on one pc, I was on my other pc in wowhead.com looking up that boss going "ok what am I doing wrong here". Once I realized I was attacking with the wrong buttons LOL....I downed him in no time. It was just funny that the guy were taking next to no damage and I was just on cruise control. I could have stepped out and gone to the bathroom pretty easy without a problem.

I will record a full run tonight for everyone. I did it for the other tanking ring. The dungeon is super easy though and I didn't even have any close calls whatsoever. Out of all my guys now at level 76, the lowest defense is 530 with them. My "leader" is at 541 =) I know, anything more than 538 is a waste, but he is there. As they get higher in their gear, I may trade out more stuff with offense in mind. Right now, hardly anything can hurt them though.

Multibocks
02-04-2009, 11:37 AM
Actually heroics only require 535, its raids that are 540 and really anything above that is not wasted as it gives you more dodge, parry, and miss rating(and block, but we dont care about that.) I ran Drak yesterday at 75 and smoked it. I expected to wipe on Novos, but it turned out to be super easy. I think I will be trying Gundrak today or tomorrow, but I know that last boss is going to be hell (AE cleaves and the more cleaves you get the more bleed damage.)

edit: Oh and I accidentally pulled the Dinosaur boss when I was clearing for him and so I started with 2 adds + boss that was beating on my healer and still won, lol :thumbsup:

-silencer-
02-04-2009, 03:37 PM
I play with all my guys on one monitor, 1 pc. These guys that are playing with 3 or more different monitors I just don't get. I have a smaller "view", yes. But I see everything and can react much quicker if all my views are very close to each other.
This is why I only 5-box on 2x 24" LCDs instead of all 4 of my monitors. Keeping the windows close together makes it easy to watch everyone at the same time, and use different views on each to have a 360* field of vision. If I know I may get jumped by the opposite faction in world PvP, I have one of my alts looking straight up.. with eyes to the sky! :)

Multibocks
02-04-2009, 09:21 PM
My DK team cleared Gundrak today, was a lot easier than I thought it would be... We are all 76 and after clearing it I decided to check the boss levels on wowhead. 78! Lol I didnt even notice. I can see the last boss being really ugly in heroic though. ;(

edit: two guys died on last boss because I forgot that impale means they have to be healed to full. Woops!

Furystrike
02-07-2009, 12:25 AM
My DK team cleared Gundrak today, was a lot easier than I thought it would be... We are all 76 and after clearing it I decided to check the boss levels on wowhead. 78! Lol I didnt even notice. I can see the last boss being really ugly in heroic though. ;(

edit: two guys died on last boss because I forgot that impale means they have to be healed to full. Woops!Actually, you dont have to be at full health for last boss. I figured out a nice little way to avoid impales all day long. Makes this boss a pushover. Movie to come soon....