started yesterday

[burningraven]

hi all :)

i started dual-boxing yesterday :)
im using Keyclone which works quite good :)


made 2 mages yesterday, but what spec would be best for leveling them?
fire/fire, frost/frost or fire/frost?

for now i just really love dual-boxing :thumbsup:

[Tonyx]

Welcome to the multiboxing experience!!

I am no expert in the mage field, so don't mark my words. I am pretty sure the spec won't matter much, while leveling, as you will kill stuff so fast anyways. I would say fire/fire however, or maybe fire/arcane for some added utility. Frost is a good spec, but I think it is better suited for longer fights (instances fighing elites). A double pyroblat opening is pretty much devastating.

[burningraven]

another maybe simple question :)

a lot of quest recuire you to loot questitems, how can this be done on the clone?
i can loot on the leader ofcourse, but not on the clone.

can this only be solved by switching to the other character and looting manualy?

[nasaRed]

hi, and welcome! : )

definately frost. it's what i'm leveling mine on (also have 2 mages) and i find it much easier than fire (which i had on my main).

at the moment, as i'm RaF leveling i focus on quests but once i hit 60 and the bonus xp is gone there are a number of places where aoe farming with two frost mages on rested xp would keep the levels ticking away at a decent speed anyway.

- nasaRed

[nasaRed]

when doing gathering quests i focus on one character at time time, and when i'm done on that one i just switch over to the other one.

- nasaRed

[Kaynin]

Two things you need.

-Free for all loot
-A macro set up that allows you to swap leaders


Do a quest, gather the quest items with your main, got them on your main, switch to alt, repeat. :p

[burningraven]

FFA was indeed enabled :)

is it smart to use 2 action bars for the macros/spells?
char1 = leader = actionbar 1
char2 = clone = actionbar 2

when changing
char1 = clone = actionbar 2
char2 = leader = actionbar 1

macro for changing leader is /promote charname wasnt it?

[Kaynin]

FFA was indeed enabled :)

is it smart to use 2 action bars for the macros/spells?
char1 = leader = actionbar 1
char2 = clone = actionbar 2

when changing
char1 = clone = actionbar 2
char2 = leader = actionbar 1

macro for changing leader is /promote charname wasnt it?

I've not heard of /promote commands

O_o



Anyhow!
It is much easier to start with a focus based set up (for starters)

Here's a basic rundown.

Char 1:

Macro on F1
/clearfocus

Macro on F2
/clearfocus
/focus Toon2name

Spells/etcl that require targeting
/cast [target=focustarget, exists][ ] Spell
(optional tests: /cast [target=focustarget, harm, exists][harm] Harmful Spell ; [target=focustarget, help, exists][help] Helpful Spell (aka buff or heal) )

Char 2:

Macro on F1
/clearfocus
/focus Toon1name

Macro on F2
/clearfocus

Spells/etcl that require targeting
/cast [target=focustarget, exists][ ] Spell


You can make it as complicated as you like, but start simple, and focus based might not be the best out there (ftl is best imo :P) focus based is definatly a good place to start. What you do is if you play on Toon1 as main, you press F1 and when you swap to toon2, press F2. Based on your characters focus they either go for their focus target or if they don't have a focus for their own target.

Explanation on the cast macro:
/cast [target=focustarget, exists Attempt to target the target of yoru focus, and if it exists, do Spell on that target][Do spell on your active target, you did not have a focustarget] Spell


PS: This is as af 3.0.8 also the method on how to follow on vehicles.

[elsegundo]

with two mages, i agree. you can easily switch leaders if you need to. the spec and button setups should be somewhat identical, at least for the major spells.

for things like frost nova, which should either be on round robin, or used with modifiers so the mages can take turns, those dont have to be identical macros. or maybe it should be!

focus system is easiest, and changing leaders will mean that you clear focus for the new leader and set a new focus for your old leader now slave.

and never use "exist" in your macro. 1) its exist without the S. and 2) harm or help already implies existence. i think they took it out too, as one of my macro had exist and i would get an error from wow saying that exist is not a known option.

[Kaynin]

with two mages, i agree. you can easily switch leaders if you need to. the spec and button setups should be somewhat identical, at least for the major spells.

for things like frost nova, which should either be on round robin, or used with modifiers so the mages can take turns, those dont have to be identical macros. or maybe it should be!

focus system is easiest, and changing leaders will mean that you clear focus for the new leader and set a new focus for your old leader now slave.

and never use "exist" in your macro. 1) its exist without the S. and 2) harm or help already implies existence. i think they took it out too, as one of my macro had exist and i would get an error from wow saying that exist is not a known option.

-If- you use harm or help, then yes, 'exist' will only be a macro filler. If you don't use harm or help, exist -is- needed or your cast will be stuck without a focus. :P

Never say never. x)

All my macro's have exist in them however and I have no problems whatsoever with them. Your error might have been caused by something else you might have overlooked? Like a spelling or punctiation mistake.

[burningraven]

thats all for your replies :D

im having a very good time with my two mages :D
leveling isnt going very fast yet, at the moment im still testing it all and making the macro's work correctly :)

[elsegundo]

thats all for your replies :D

im having a very good time with my two mages :D
leveling isnt going very fast yet, at the moment im still testing it all and making the macro's work correctly :)

if you're trying to set it up where you can switch leaders, i would suggest adding two things.
one, a button for each mage to tell it to be the leader, basically clearing its focus, but that button also tells the other mage that it should make the other mage the focus.
on your macros, i would do this:
/cast [target=focustarget, harm] [target=targettarget, harm] [harm] Pyroblast

this will check first if your focus's target is harmful, and will cast pyroblast on the harful target. if you dont have a focus, the macro will skip to the next condition, if your target target is harmful (useful when you assist others, plus if you have a /target button) it will cast pyroblast... and finally, if none of those make sense to WoW, it will go to the last condition, if your target is harmful (useful when you're the leader), then cast pyrobast on your target.
with both mages having this same macro setup, you can switch leaders and not have to change your buttons.



Kaynin, it could be the spelling. last night i made a new macro for a moonkin and instead of "stance" i typed "Stance".

[Kaynin]

yeah, the macro system can be harsh that way,I once nearly burned my pc to the ground until I finally realised after much much time of frustration, that I had a : instead of a ;

:P

[Questor]

yeah, the macro system can be harsh that way,I once nearly burned my pc to the ground until I finally realised after much much time of frustration, that I had a : instead of a ;

:PSorry - I had a "The Guild" Flashback then (Sorry to those of you who haven't seen it, but if not - go youtube it now!!) :D

[burningraven]

both my mages are now lvl 12 and rising.

soon ill get Flamestrike and Blizzard.
is there a way i can use these attacks with both my mages at the same time?

i need to target the ground somehow.....

[Orshok]

I'm levelling 2 mages with a holy pally (presently 63) and I choosed arcane for POM, improved iae and the reciprocal +crit (I forgot the name of this talent). It's a good combo for single target but also an aoe killer. Now, Im putting additional points in the frost tree for one, and fire for the second one.

In the past, when I was levelling those 2 mages without a healer, I choosed a fire and frost combo, just to have the pleasure to discover 2 different trees at the same time. Also, its good to see the frost mage slowering down the ennemy while the fire is burning him down. Whatever, frost frost and fire fire are also good.

[elsegundo]

both my mages are now lvl 12 and rising.

soon ill get Flamestrike and Blizzard.
is there a way i can use these attacks with both my mages at the same time?

i need to target the ground somehow.....there is a thread somewhere about targeting ground to do AoE spells, however, this will not be exact for your slave, as you are at the mercy of the mouse pointer's position.

blizzard with one mage works just fine. i believe, two mages? that's an extra frost nova and more cone of colds for you. two blizzards at once? you'll have to be good at switching screens.