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yarr
12-03-2007, 01:15 PM
Just curious how all you 5boxers typically handle dungeons.

I just dinged 15, did RFC at 14 and it was a bit wierd.

Im running pally/priest/mage/2xshaman setup. I have the mage assist pally to get his sheep target and then use a "/cast [target = focustarget] frostbolt" to nuke while keeping sheep target.

I sometimes accidentally hit my assist macro (habit) mid-pull which royally messed up the fights when the mage sheeped the DPS target and the ex-sheep went to go beat up the mage. I had to scramble to get the mage to retarget the sheep and sometimes the mage died.

Not sure if what im doing is the best way or if theres another better way to handle CC targets.

Also, positioning could probably have been improved. all 4 other characters were pretty much on autofollow on the pally the whole time. On teremus the devourer i positioned the party pre-pull so they wouldnt take aoe damage.

d0z3rr
12-03-2007, 01:34 PM
Happens to me to. I four box. The mage will sometimes sheep the wrong target.

I find you have to mash that assist key for the mage to pickup the correct sheep target. So basically target your sheep target, mash the assist key. Have the mage sheep it, then target your dps target, and mash the assist key again.

Not sure why that happens, but my assist key rarely ever works on the first press.

kllrwlf
12-03-2007, 01:49 PM
I use focus for my mage for the mob to sheep.

I have this for my mage.

1st button:
/assist party1
/focus

2nd button:
/cast [target=focus] sheep

3rd button for everyone:
/assist party1
/cast whatever...

If sheep breaks, I hit the 2nd button so that only the mage will sheep the focus.

kllrwlf
12-03-2007, 03:05 PM
I forgot to mention, I wait a second or two before sheeping, attacking.

I have 3 mages though, so sometimes I have all 3 sheeping the same target just for the fun of it. :)

Ughmahedhurtz
12-03-2007, 03:10 PM
While it does limit me in how hard of an instance I can run, having pet tanks has been nice with the 2.3 patch changes. AoE mobs now usually only hit one or maybe 2 of the 4 pets as the rest have gotten behind the target. Quite nice. Worked like a champ on Ghazan in Underbog (who has a nasty cone poison bolt thingy).

As for targeting for CC, I imagine this would be more difficult with a melee main than with my priest main, primarily due to sheep breaking on damage, so you have to be extra careful. I was doing this with Banish in underbog and it was pretty straightforward. Let the pets pick up aggro, then banish 1-2 mobs while killing the main mob. My macros are all /assist focus, then /attack macros, so I don't use the [target=focustarget] thing.

Jusa
12-03-2007, 05:45 PM
I'm rolling with a Prot Pally and 4 Shadow priests. Once you get concecration the game is easy mode. I just grind instances and run in on the Pal with priests in tow, then tap my spread macro to get them off follow and move the pal like 5 more yards away so the priests are out of AoE range. i can hit concecrate everytime it pops and just keep agro with no prob on all mobs. Then the priests dot, dot, dot, renew, dot, dot, flash heal and it's time to loot 5 mobs and move on. The only snag is that Mind Flay causes the priests to stop following so it's best to just park them before you start DPSing. with the spells i have now my renews hit for 30x4 a tick and my flash heals are 200-250x4. For a 1.5 sec cast 800-1k hp is just amazing. I can't wait for VE, VT cause that's going to ROCK! I want to PvP as 5 Shadow Priests at 70 but i have a 70 shadow Priests on the Pally's account so there is no point in leveling another on thae same accoune and Pallys are the Best AoE tnaks around, which is great since i have no CC =p I'm still not sure how i'm going to work Shadow Form yet since i heal with all my priests at the same time and i can't cast flash heal or renew in shadow form, but i guess it all depends on ing VE x4 will be enough HPS to keep my tank up or not. Has Anyone got 40+ SHadow Priests/Pal team?

yarr
12-03-2007, 05:53 PM
ah so i need a spread macro =P

Jusa
12-03-2007, 06:29 PM
ah so i need a spread macro =P

it's not really a macro.

I have the > key set to a diferent things on each toon

Priest 1 it's bound to strafe left
Priest 2 it's bound to strafe right
Priest 3 it's bound to forward
Priest 4 it's bound to back

it makes it easy to put on shows when people follow you around too.

you just hit your spred Key till your toons are far enough away, center your main in the middle then hit your follow key then /dance.

This looks pretty cool with undead chicks dancing around a BE chick.

amalgam
12-06-2007, 01:17 PM
I'm rolling with a Prot Pally and 4 Shadow priests....

How's that going for you? I've been thinking about doing the same thing, actually.

Jusa
12-06-2007, 01:29 PM
I'm only 25 atm but it's working out just fine so far. Pallies hold aggro like mad with just concecrate.

amalgam
12-06-2007, 01:35 PM
I'm only 25 atm but it's working out just fine so far. Pallies hold aggro like mad with just concecrate.

I have a triple Mage team at 16, but I already have a 54 Mage (plus a few other Mages on different accounts) so I am looking to level some classes I don't already have. Triple S Priest + Paladin seems grossly over powered, though I am thinking about putting a Shaman in there for wipe recovery.

Ughmahedhurtz
12-06-2007, 02:57 PM
I'm rolling with a Prot Pally and 4 Shadow priests....

How's that going for you? I've been thinking about doing the same thing, actually.
I'll tell you that from my experience, if things are hitting the pally hard enough that you have to shift out of shadowform to renew and heal him, aggro quickly becomes a problem. With the changes to +healing gear now adding +1/3 to damage, this may improve things for them. Pre-2.3, you had to be very careful because DPSing and healing at the same time generates a crapload of aggro quickly. Fade helps but at times you just have to heal through the unwanted priest aggro. :P

Jusa
12-06-2007, 04:03 PM
I have a 70 shadow priest on the same account as the pally that i plan on swapping out at 70. I wanted to to have 5 shadow priests it pvp at 70. I added the pally in there to have a tank and beacuse there is no point in having 2 priests on the same account. if it works out later than healing agro and dpsing is too much agro then it's not going to be a problem to make one holy. But i think 3/3 shadow affinity and salvation should be enough to keep any agro off my priests. Healing is relitive to what your tank can mitigate. The good thing about having a central figure like a pally tanks is I can twink the pally out with enchants and felsteal shield spikes and the best gear i can get for him like you would do a normal twink but the priests are support classes so they don't need that much juice. with 4 VT's going, mana will never be a problem, neither will the mana cost of popping in and out of shadow form as needed. If i have to i can start a fight in normal form and let the pally get some aggro from concecrate while tossing out concecrate and crusader judgements with ret aura up and just heal him with renews or flash heals. once he has a lot of agro then i cna pop over tho shadow from and toss up VT VE and SWP and go back and renew. The healing is spread out between 4 priests so i don't see how it would draw anywhere near the agro that 1 holy priest would creeate. not to mention SW:D with 4 PoM's bouncing around. The more i think about it i can't find a bad point in 4 priests other than no cc but cc is just a hinderance to a pally tank. I play a feral druid as my main and i've tanked up to bloodboil in BT and Archimond in Hyjal. I've ran Heroic SH many times to key people up for the Eye, But I was amazed when i went in with a pally tank on my shadow priest and it was an absolute joke how easy it was.

Jusa
12-06-2007, 04:06 PM
I have a 70 shadow priest on the same account as the pally that i plan on swapping out at 70. I wanted to to have 5 shadow priests it pvp at 70. I added the pally in there to have a tank and beacuse there is no point in having 2 priests on the same account. if it works out later than healing agro and dpsing is too much agro then it's not going to be a problem to make one holy. But i think 3/3 shadow affinity and salvation should be enough to keep any agro off my priests. Healing is relitive to what your tank can mitigate. The good thing about having a central figure like a pally tanks is I can twink the pally out with enchants and felsteal shield spikes and the best gear i can get for him like you would do a normal twink but the priests are support classes so they don't need that much juice. with 4 VT's going, mana will never be a problem, neither will the mana cost of popping in and out of shadow form as needed. If i have to i can start a fight in normal form and let the pally get some aggro from concecrate while tossing out concecrate and crusader judgements with ret aura up and just heal him with renews or flash heals. once he has a lot of agro then i cna pop over tho shadow from and toss up VT VE and SWP and go back and renew. The healing is spread out between 4 priests so i don't see how it would draw anywhere near the agro that 1 holy priest would creeate. not to mention SW:D with 4 PoM's bouncing around. The more i think about it i can't find a bad point in 4 priests other than no cc but cc is just a hinderance to a pally tank. I play a feral druid as my main and i've tanked up to bloodboil in BT and Archimond in Hyjal. I've ran Heroic SH many times to key people up for the Eye, But I was amazed when i went in with a pally tank on my shadow priest and it was an absolute joke how easy it was.

amalgam
12-06-2007, 04:48 PM
I remember reading from Ellay that the way VT and VE stack is weird, but I don't quite fully understand the way he presented it. I searched and cannot find the post, but if someone would explain (or link) in laymen's terms the way it works, it would be much appreciated.

The Paladin/SP is becoming more and more appealing.

EDIT: Found it.