Blood Furnace: DKs Take Zero Skill

[Zerocool2024]

In this video I was testing to see how much I could take on, so I died once or twice on Mobs, bosses = zero deaths.

Not much to say, Blood was just as easy as Ramps. So, sit back and enjoy... Once again, still working on getting videos to be better. The quality is noticable better than the last (Ramps) But for some reason it seems like there is a random pause in Vid from time to time, not sure why. You would think with a Quad core 6700, 8 gigs, Dual Nvidia 8800 GT cards I would be fine. But eh.. lol.

Viddyou HD ('http://www.viddyou.com/viddstream?videoid=55219')
Quality - (B) Wegame ('http://www.wegame.com/watch/Blood_Furnace_DKs_Take_Zero_Skill/')

ENJOY!

[Multibocks]

Nice work! I see we have similar music tastes :D

[Zerocool2024]

Nice work! I see we have similar music tastes :DLol, yeah, I was wanting to use some other music for this video, but eh... I got some good stuff for the next 5 vids :)

Also, did the movie skip at all, or was it just my comp?

[Multibocks]

I didnt notice any skipping.

[Akeldema]

Nive video.
Is Blood Aura still stacking, as it shows you Have 5 stacks of the buff.
or is it there but dosnt stack.

[Zerocool2024]

I didnt notice any skipping.Ok, then it was my alt computer being stupid... Cool. :) And did you get my answer on the "follow" in the Ramps video post?



Nive video.
Is Blood Aura still stacking, as it shows you Have 5 stacks of the buff.
or is it there but dosnt stack.Aye, Blood stacks.
Now, someone had brought this to my attention, "Does Hysteria stack?"
So, has anyone tried it to see if it does?

[Akeldema]

It stacks.....
But painfully.
with my 3 deathknights all casting it on my lead, she dies in about 10 secconds.
But DAMN, some big damage while she's alive

Was Just asking about blood aura as i read somewhere they blizzard was stopping it stacking

[Zerocool2024]

It stacks.....
But painfully.
with my 3 deathknights all casting it on my lead, she dies in about 10 secconds.
But DAMN, some big damage while she's alive

Was Just asking about blood aura as i read somewhere they blizzard was stopping it stacking

That would be the Suxor, though; I don't think
they had 5DK's taking out Dungeons in mind... Seems that whenever people think
out side the box, Blizz hits it with the “Not working as intended” BS and nerfs
it. It’s not going against the TOS or doing anything illegal), they just want
you to play "THEIR" way, and not yours. I think I remember in the
last patch them playing around with Huntards because they didn't like the way
they did their rotation (It was not intended) as I remember them saying. lol.

[Zerocool2024]

It stacks.....
But painfully.
with my 3 deathknights all casting it on my lead, she dies in about 10 secconds.
But DAMN, some big damage while she's alive

Was Just asking about blood aura as i read somewhere they blizzard was stopping it stacking

That would be the Suxor, though; I don't think
they had 5DK's taking out Dungeons in mind... Seems that whenever people think
out side the box, Blizz hits it with the “Not working as intended” BS and nerfs
it. It’s not going against the TOS or doing anything illegal), they just want
you to play "THEIR" way, and not yours. I think I remember in the
last patch them playing around with Huntards because they didn't like the way
they did their rotation (It was not intended) as I remember them saying. lol.

You know, I thought about this... Hysteria…

Throw in Mark of Blood 4%*5 = 20% healed from damage taken =? + 35% for 20 seconds.
Blood Aura 4*5 = 20% healed from each hit *5 =? + 35% for 20 seconds.
Vampiric Blood = 15% more health and generate 35% more health from healing effects for 20 seconds.
(With Glyph) Rune Tap 2% of max health healed every 30 seconds *5 =? + 35%

Slave 2, 3, 4, 5
Target 1 cast Hysteria
Same button, Anti-Magic Shell (75% absorbed from spells Lasts 5 seconds) Hysteria is a spell no?

Then when that runs out, throw on Ice Bound fortitude (take 20% less damage for 12 seconds)

Hysteria – take 1% of your HP every second for 30 seconds…

(Vampiric Blood) 9164*.15 = 1374.6+9164 = 10538.6 *.1% = 105.38 roughly 2107.6 damge in 20 seconds. So about 105 damage a second.

So take my Hp 9164 * .1% = 91.64 roughly 2750 damage in 30 seconds. So about 92 damage a second

(Vampiric) Anti = .75*105 = 78.75 = (132 damage taken in 5 seconds)

Anti = .75 * 92 = 69* 5 = (112.5 damage taken in 5 seconds)

(Vampiric) IBF = .2*105 = 21-105 = 84 damage taken for 12 seconds

IBF = .2 * 92 = 18.4 - 92 = 73.6 damage taken for 12 seconds.

(Vampiric) Soo… (1008 damage in 12 seconds) + ( 132 damage in 5 seconds) + (105*13 = 1365) = 2505

Soo… (883 damage in 12 seconds) + (112.5 in 5 seconds) + (92 * 13 = 1196) = 2191.5

(Vampiric) So now take 105*4 = 420*20 = 8400 OUCH…

So now take 92*4 = 384*30 seconds = 11040 OUCH…

(Vampiric) Same Configuration in a nutshell (.26*8400 = 2184) = 6216 in 20 seconds… Then 10 seconds of 92*4+10 seconds = 3680+6216 = 9896 damage taken.

Same configuration in a nutshell (.26*11040 = 2870.4) = 8169.6 in 30 seconds…



So… there is a loop hole around it, “SOME WHAT” But if you do it in the right order and time everything right, I don’t see a reason why this can’t be pulled off.

For 30 seconds, you would be “Ivan ('http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2046393742348211186') ”… Or dead from from a heart attack in 5 seconds lol.

[Akeldema]

BUT, my combat log shows hysteria as Physical damage.

[Zerocool2024]

BUT, my combat log shows hysteria as Physical damage.Hrm... then the Anti logic goes out the window, but still, I think with Mark and Vampiric up, you might could survive the fight, now after the effects are off, I think you might die, lol... Might have to save Runt Tap or something... Lol

[Akeldema]

Just did some tests on some of the unkillable guys in blasted lands.

1dk solo.
15-17 heal from blood aure
30-33 crit.

2dk
22-24
41-43

and, with two dk's the healing effect happens twice with two dk's along with doing a larger heal.



Also I had a look at hysteria, you take 1% of your max health as damage, every 1 seccond for 30 secconds,
3 dk's you take 90%,
5 you take a whopping 150%,
now along with the damage your taking from the boss/mob you might be venturing into Un healable ammounts of damage for my 3 deathknights 3x hysteria on my main is 204 damage every seccond, at level 61, because it scales with max health it wont be diminished through massive health pools.

[Zerocool2024]

So, you tried it on a boss with Hysteria*4 + mark and Vampiric? I was going to attempt it tonight and see what happens, lol.

[Akeldema]

So, you tried it on a boss with Hysteria*4 + mark and Vampiric? I was going to attempt it tonight and see what happens, lol.Not spec'd into Mark, But with vampiric it "Should" be enough, as long as your getting a death strike in EVERY time you can, Im happy to try it with Vampiric+hysteria on my 3 Dk's and bring some numbers back if ya want.(Only would try it on a elite, to lazy to go hit a boss.
Only problem i see is that the boss hitting you might tip the scale with the healing. allthough, if your doing 60% more damage, and your being healed for 4%x3 that might be interesting,

[Zerocool2024]

Yeah, that would be great if you could do that, I will do it also to see what happens. I am really curios to see what happens. Though if you just try it on an elite, you might kill it to quick before you can get enough HP back to balance it out. That's the whole point of it all, it will only work if you do it on bosses who an hit hard so you can get healed back *5.

Not trying to discourage your help at all. I thank you for taking an interest in it and willing to help :)

[Akeldema]

Wasnt just any normal elite,
Arazzius the Cruel 63 elite, 44,220 health chucks pyroblasts around like toys, he hurts.
might remember him from a quest in Hellfire if you did it.

[Zerocool2024]

OH YEAH.. Lol forgot about him, then that should work fine I think, lol. :)

[Akeldema]

Just tested it, and...Holy crap i was taking damage fast. ~300 a second from hysteria(Each hysteria was ticking for 99-105) and the elite was smaking me for 600-700 a hit along with his 1.5k pyroblasts, I had about 5.6k, vampiric aura was keeping me just alive(I was at around 10-15% the whole fight), that drops and i go down in probably 2 seconds,
it was very messy.

[Zerocool2024]

Hahahhaha.... wow... just reading it gave me chills, lol... Just to clear things up to make sure I read it right, you had Blood Aura up which is 20% healed when all of you attack it, then you had Vampiric blood on?

[Akeldema]

had blood aura x3(Only 3 deathknights) so thats 12% along with Vampiric which is 25% increased, I was spamming death strike with both diseases on the target, and i was getting hammerd. While i was alive though i was doing ~600 dps at 61


edit1: 100 post :P

[Sajuuk]

Evil thought: Someone piss you off in a BG? Hysteria*X Blood spec Death Knights. >=D

*Sajuuk ponders this with an evil grin.


Let's not forget you can cast it on one of your team members, kill the target you want, then dispel it.

[Zerocool2024]

Well, just the other night, I tried doing Hysteria*4 on a boss and I lived. First and second boss in Mana-tombs, this is when I was 68.
It seems to have worked out great, though, on any boss that does AOE stun or a root of some type is going to suck for the person taking 400+ damage a second plus INC damage from boss.

[suicidesspyder]

Ok say ur in a bg raid something like av right right would this work. Roll as a group of 20 into vann or dreks room. Say you have 15 dk's and 5 druids lol. Do you think 15 hysterias on one death knight with his 4 times blood aura mark of blood and vampiric touch and druids hots would keep that main dk alive long ehough to do some serious damage. Just a thought. But 5 resto druids times 25 hots on main plus blood specd healing i would love to see that. Wish we could try something like that to bad to bad we cant. I would love to see the damage that one dk does to vann or drek. Maybe one of you math savey needy griddy guys could figure out what the healing to damage at 70 stats would be say with 70 pvp gear make it easy lol.

[Akeldema]

Ok, well
15 hysterias is 15% of their health as damage, every seccond.
Mark of blood dosnt stack =/ so that wont help much, vampiric blood would help for the few secconds its up, and blood aura even with 15 lots of it still wouldnt heal enough,
so it all comes down to can a healer keep up someone taking 15% of his health+Boss damage every seccond.

so.
Dk has. 20k health.
Taking 3000 damage every seccond.
now doing increased damage he is hitting, 4k every 3.6 secconds thats 160x15 for the aura's= 2400 every 3.6 secconds.
Now say Boss xx is hitting him for 6k every 2 secconds mark of blood is healing 240.
Now, say our druids can do 1.5k HpS each= 7500 healing every seccond
so lets work it out.

he has
20k health.
taking 7.0k damage every seccond
Self healing about 450 every seccond.
droods doing 7.5k a seccond.

Correct me if im wrong, But the DK is being healed 1000 more than the damage he is taking
with vampiric blood that jumps to over 11k a seccond, he would survive but he takes damage from hysteria for 30, vampiric lasts for 20.

Also these druids would have to be healing as hard as they could.

so basicly, you would hit like a truck for 20 secconds, But if those healers slack off, of the boss crits, BAM your gonna go down hard.



(Please correct me if i have missed somthing, 4 am isnt the best time to do this.)

[Zerocool2024]

Take my Hp un-buffed (It’s higher than what the site says) 11804. ('http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Durotan&n=R%C3%AAih%C3%AAalita')
1% of 11804=118*15=1770*30S=53100 damage in 30 seconds.
That’s 5 times more than the amount of HP I have

Rejuvenation
Heals the target for 1060 over 12 sec.
1060*5=5300 (level 70), without any + to healing.

83.33R*5=416.65 per second.

Regrowth
Heals a friendly target for 1215 to 1355 and another 1274 over 21 sec.

60.66R*5=303.33R per second.
1215+1355/2=1285A*5=6425 (level 70), without any + to healing.

Lifebloom
Heals the target for 224 over 7 sec. When Lifebloom completes its duration or is dispelled, the target instantly heals them self for 600. This effect can stack up to 3 times on the same target.

224/7=32*3=96*7=672 (level 70), without any + to healing.
600*3=1800 (level 70), without any + to healing.

With said healing so far = 14197 give or take (rough sketch up) this number =’s crap when you add in the +healing the druids are going to have. (In a little bit, or after work I can throw in a real 70 druid with stats) Coefficients ('http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_power_coefficient')
Add up Vampiric Blood 35% and 15% more HP (changes math)
Add the 4%*15%=60% from Blood Aura. (changes math) If all said are Blood with Aura.
Add in the -20% to damage taken from IBF. (changes math)
Death Coil/Death Strike. (Changes math, but not used in equations due to no set number(s)).

(Other healing)
Paladin - Judgement of Light

Just looking at the numbers, I bet you could live all the while doing 783+962/2=872.5A DPS+

.2*783=156.6*15=2349
.2*962=192.4*15=2886

2349+2886/2=2617.5A DPS… lol, wow.
Add in Trueshot Aura.
Add in Battle Shout.
Druid – MOTW (changes math)
Priest – Fort (changes math)
Paladin – Kings (changes math)
Paladin – Might

That right there is a lot of said math that needs to be added to get a Ball park number. However, with an imagination, one can have, and the rough numbers I have given (Can we say… 4 Horsemen)? I have no doubt you could live, and the DPS you would produce would be indescribable)

[Zerocool2024]

Ok, well
15 hysterias is 15% of their health as damage, every seccond.
Mark of blood dosnt stack =/ so that wont help much, vampiric blood would help for the few secconds its up, and blood aura even with 15 lots of it still wouldnt heal enough,
so it all comes down to can a healer keep up someone taking 15% of his health+Boss damage every seccond.

so.
Dk has. 20k health.
Taking 3000 damage every seccond.
now doing increased damage he is hitting, 4k every 3.6 secconds thats 160x15 for the aura's= 2400 every 3.6 secconds.
Now say Boss xx is hitting him for 6k every 2 secconds mark of blood is healing 240.
Now, say our druids can do 1.5k HpS each= 7500 healing every seccond
so lets work it out.

he has
20k health.
taking 7.0k damage every seccond
Self healing about 450 every seccond.
droods doing 7.5k a seccond.

Correct me if im wrong, But the DK is being healed 1000 more than the damage he is taking
with vampiric blood that jumps to over 11k a seccond, he would survive but he takes damage from hysteria for 30, vampiric lasts for 20.

Also these druids would have to be healing as hard as they could.

so basicly, you would hit like a truck for 20 secconds, But if those healers slack off, of the boss crits, BAM your gonna go down hard.



(Please correct me if i have missed somthing, 4 am isnt the best time to do this.)Lol beat me to it, lol. Was working while typing when I saw this post and left the window open.

[Akeldema]

Problem is, it all depends on how good the healers are and how hard the boss is going to hit you.
i mean, healers have enough trouble keeping a propperly spec'd tank up, if you did this on a "real" boss, the Dk would be dead in secconds.
allthough, would be a damn fast way to kill patchwerk.
15 dk's in a 25 man raid anyone >_>

[Zerocool2024]

That is true, I mean, you are going to take some massive damage, though honestly, with the said healing that you are going to be taking from HOT's and the 60% from Blood Aura, you are going to Survive. I already stated that I was living through Bosses with Hysteria*4 with no healers by myself. Hopefully the tank can keep the mob off of you, but with that amount of DPS you are going to be producing, not sure if he is going to keep it or get it back once you land a few lucky crits (crits that are going to be massive) With my current spec (bloodworms heal for a lot as well) you wouldn't think so, but, my (or the said spec I am using) works out rather well with hysteria. With 20% crits on all toons, able to crit for 2K+*20% = about 400 to being healed.
And then throw on mark, you are going to be getting smashed in the face but getting healed*5 the damage he is beating you in the face for.

Tried it last night in Nexus on Ormorok the Tree-Shaper, Worked out rather well. But can't say I would use it all the time. Was going to try it on
Grand Magus Telestra, but then rememberd that she likes to play Yo-Yo with me, and I would die...

Throw in the 15Marks for 20Seconds you are NOT going to die... lol. Now those said 10SECS are going to be the clincher... save the IBF, the Regular heals, and whatever can be thrown at you to keep you alive. You also have your Rune Tap in those 10 Seconds.

If I could get some People on RUIN BG's, I would like to test this out and see what happens.

[Fat Tire]

great vid

I am curious on your 1st/2nd attack what do they consist of if you dont mind. :D

[Varmon]

Can you "click off" the Hysteria debuff? I wasn't sure if you could or not as it comes with a debuff in addition to the buff

If not it sure would be amusing to kill your "favorite" faction mates with this while in say Dalaran...initially getting them to join your group for a harmless trade rendezvous. Though on the other hand I don't think GMs would look kindly on this behavior

[Zerocool2024]

great vid

I am curious on your 1st/2nd attack what do they consist of if you dont mind. :D
1st attack
/assist focus
/autoattack
/cast reset=target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Death Strike, Death Strike

2nd attack
/assist focus
/autoattack
/cast reset=target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike, Obliterate

3 - rune tap
4 - death coil
5 - /castsequence Icebound Fortitude, Vampiric Blood was Vampiric Blood
6 - Mark of Blood
7 - Horn of winter was Icebound Fortitude
8 - Nothing was Horn of Winter
9 - nothing
0 - PVP trinket

All the rest are pretty self explantory, except for the ones on the far right. Those are my PIP/focus buttons, ctrl+F1, ctrl+F2 etc..

Going to change the attack macros here in a little bit, need to do some math on them to get the max DPS burst, then a macro for bosses.

[suicidesspyder]

Man i would be scared to be in a 40 man raid with 30 blood dk's and 10 healers. Wow for 30 secs that one dk's is gonna hit like a friggin truck. To bad even if u took one dk out and was a tank you would never get aggro back so you better kill that boss in 30 secs or ur gonna wipe hehe.

[Zerocool2024]

Lol, tis is true.

Also, just a few minutes I cleared Utgarde Keep (71, 70, 70, 70, 70) Can't say it wasn't easy, but I went bawls to the wall against Ingvar the Plunderer (First form was Cake walk, but second form was WTFpwnmyassin and I lost two people in the end)
Will Fraps it the second time, I didn't do it this time because I had no idea I was going to clear it, I was just like "Phuk it, lets see what happens". Hope I can Clear the last boss in Nexus after I get level 71 with the rest.

[MGFLA2]

may i ask what UI you use ?

Or a list of addons..specifically the one that shows the different target/focus on your main that your slaves have and the one that keeps track of the sheep times...

Thanks and great video..

[Zerocool2024]

may i ask what UI you use ?

Or a list of addons..specifically the one that shows the different target/focus on your main that your slaves have and the one that keeps track of the sheep times...

Thanks and great video..Perl Classic Unit Frames That should be right :)