What software solution (or pure hardware) do you use to multicast?

[zanthor]

I'm just curious about the solutions our active users have implemented... so if you have a moment, click the poll!

[Sajuuk]

I voted innerspace, but keyclone also has my full support.

[Leyuna]

voted Keyclone, had a look today at innerspace and at its current state it is really not user-friendly and i most say its too complex to setup for a "basic" user, but from the video's it does have potential.

[moosejaw]

voted Keyclone, had a look today at innerspace and at its current state it is really not user-friendly and i most say its too complex to setup for a "basic" user, but from the video's it does have potential.

Then you should see the new IS Boxer Toolkit ('http://www.lavishsoft.com/wiki/index.php/IS:ISBoxer'). I will try it tonight when I get off work. Lax is trying to make it almost idiot proof.

Here is Lax's post ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=167802#post167802') about it.

[zanthor]

It's not about who you support, just a curiosity about what you use...

I fully support ANY tool that does the job well. Different tools make sense for different needs. KeyClone is perfect for the 5 minute boxer, if you are totally newb to the world it can get you up and running faster than anything else I think. As other tools mature in their UI we'll see more excellence evolve. I've seen some pretty slick FTL config tools crop up here and there as well.

[Street_Rat]

not being a full time boxer, key clones the only one ive looked at or ever used. it does the job and does it well.

[Akeldema]

Started off using keyclone, Been playing around with octopus recently. I have been planning to try out some more options when i get my seccond screen

[Elchupacabre]

HotKeyNet Rocks. It has everything I need and want in a multiboxing program with no costs. I only use this and Jamba, which also rocks. It got my vote. <3 Freddie.

[-silencer-]

Wow.. 64 votes and I'm the only one using AutoHotKey? Going strong for over a year.. :)
Most likely because of the learning curve in creating scripts and there's no GUI.. and Maximizer is a separate program..
Maybe one of these days I'll write a simple GUI program to generate AHK scripts.. maybe..

[Vuur]

I voted for KeyClone because that's the one I started with and use when I'm on my PC. However, when I'm on my mac I use clonedKeys because there are really not many options that work well on the mac.

[organik005]

Dude Keyclone is one of the best things every Invented :) thanks to Keyclone I've leveled Many Toons fast, and easy... THANKS KEYCLONE!

[idiot47]

Keyclone is Amercian made from all-natural, pure 100% win. No preservatives necessary. Accept no substitutes.

[Vyndree]

Someone put "Hardware" up there on that poll.

I'm curious to see what kind of "market share" we have. ;)

[Bigfish]

Someone put "Hardware" up there on that poll.

I'm curious to see what kind of "market share" we have. ;)

Apparently just me. Someone go grab Fursphere so I don't feel so lonely.

[Freddie]

Wow.. 64 votes and I'm the only one using AutoHotKey? Going strong for over a year.. :)
I'll put in a plug for AutoHotKey. Back when I was designing HotkeyNet's script language, whenever I wanted to see how somebody else had handled a problem, I looked at AutoHotKey. It's a very fine program written by a very fine programmer.

[Cilos]

Wow.. 64 votes and I'm the only one using AutoHotKey? Going strong for over a year.. :)
I'll put in a plug for AutoHotKey. Back when I was designing HotkeyNet's script language, whenever I wanted to see how somebody else had handled a problem, I looked at AutoHotKey. It's a very fine program written by a very fine programmer.So that makes now 2 decently coded programs!

[Saxan]

After much research, I decided to go with Keyclone. Very happy with my choice and been loving it since the first day I installed the program!

[Evilseed]

Mousecloner

My setup is really dependent upon targetting AOE spells with ease. I'm going to see if somebody will help create a video, you'd love it.

Also, I used to use Keyclone and I really liked it, but I've replaced it with something home grown for now.

[zasmef]

I have used keyclone for almost a year, and its topped anything ive seen so far :D

[Atvar]

Using Keyclone and just loaded jamba to run with it, I am also trying Innerspace but also found it was too hard to configure, should get better as the ISboxer Gui improves. (getting error with ISboxer)

[binutils]

Wow.. 64 votes and I'm the only one using AutoHotKey? Going strong for over a year.. :)
Most likely because of the learning curve in creating scripts and there's no GUI.. and Maximizer is a separate program..
Maybe one of these days I'll write a simple GUI program to generate AHK scripts.. maybe..I like AutoHotKey but don't use it FOR WOW because it's use may get you banned. It can be used to "automate" things which is against TOS.

[glo]

I own a keyclone license that I bought to get through a few days when one of my machines died. Ended up using it off and on for a couple months, it's a great little utility.

I voted Octopus for mouse broadcasting which I have never used until recently, it has since saved me many thousands of clicks.

[BobGnarly]

While it's certainly not like there haven't been enough accolades for Keyclone here, I feel like I have to take this opportunity to not only give the program :thumbsup: , but also reiterate what great support Rob offers for the program. I probably shouldn't say this, but I'd pay 5 times what he's asking to have the kind of support he provides. I just wish I could get that kind of support on other stuff that I actually have problems with. :)

[keyclone]

looking for 'support' for $100? what kind of developer do you think i am? keyclone's cheap but... err.. and easy.... umm...

hmph.

so i guess you knew i'm a contractor. standing on the street corner, suit & tie... 'will code for money' sign in hand... but even i have my standards. i just won't do vb.

(and yes, software contractors are treated like the cheapest ho's in the industry. they get what they want and just toss us aside... **sniffle**)

[Nisch]

8 Port Vetra PS2 for keyboards
4 Port Vetra USB for mouse
2 Port KVM for single or multiple computer use
Octopus for mouse sharing.
My own program for mouse broadcasting via hotkey.


So yeah, my options don't work with the poll.

[Nisch]

( software contractors are treated like the cheapest ho's in the industry. they get what they want and just toss us aside... **sniffle**)

Aint that the truth!

[Lax]

Using Keyclone and just loaded jamba to run with it, I am also trying Innerspace but also found it was too hard to configure, should get better as the ISboxer Gui improves. (getting error with ISboxer)Talk about buried where I wouldn't find it -- if you were having trouble you should have said something where I would ;) The error you were getting is probably the same one others were getting -- when trying to rename something, right? That was from using .NET 3.5 features for that part, but not other parts of the program. The new beta build (#11) removes the .NET 3.5 requirement, so you would no longer get that error. If I knew you were having trouble at the time, I would have just recommended you install .NET 3.5 ;)

Edit: I typoed 12 instead of 11, good catch ;)

[Frosty]

The new beta build (#12)

Is Build 12 out yet? I could have sworn I just looked and only saw a link for # 11.

But I'm wrong a lot...ask my wife. :P

[President Skroob]

Keyclone and Jamba for my toons!

[razor747]

I just had to reinstall both of my computers and keyclone stopped working. I just sent the author an email and it was fixed within a day. Just wanted to toss my support out to keyclone for all the work.

[Herc130]

I use a 4 port vetra to broadcast 4 mages. Other accounts are so different in play, I think it might be simpler to just play each off their own x-keys, although there are somethings that are very repeatitive that I can broadcast and if I do it, it would cost me another vetra 4 port+ x-keys 20 key..which would be nearly $400 including shipping. Also, with 8 x-keys 58, 2 G13's, 2 kvms (I use multiplicty really, but have the hardware kvm ...just because!~), x-keys 20 keypad, keyboard and mouses.....I don't have much desktop space for more hardware. Maybe I try isboxer, since I am already paying for wineq2 anyway.

[joedeath332]

+1 for keyclone , is all i have used ,, and is full of functions and all easy tp set up :D

@razor747 same for me today i had to reformat ,,and got a reply back from the author or keyclone within a few hrs , 1st class service

[Sugar]

KeyClone for the win! :thumbsup: On top of that it's cheap, easy to setup and the support can't be beat, period. The support is so fast, I wonder if the programmer sleeps with his pc.

[Lost Ninja]

I voted Octopus... that said I prefer Keyclone for WoW. But as until recently I mainly played City of Heroes which I found Keyclone didn't like much, Octopus is easy to setup and IMO was better designed to work with a variety of games.

But now I'm running two WoWs on a single PC again Octopus which I was using accross two PCs has fallen by the wayside and been replaced by Keyclone again.

So 50% for each. :)

[BIGBADPRIME]

I tried to get octopus going and it just would even start and its a program you have to pay for, its like wtf.


Then i took a chance on keyclone and it rocked, not too hard to get going. AND NO PROBLEM ON VISTA 64. How many gamers are using vista 64 nowadays, its defacto :) ;) :)

[Bufe]

Voted for keyclone. Its extremly simple to setup, has awsome support from the creator. 20 thumbs up!

[Nekohs]

I voted for Keyclone as well. Top notch, simple product, great service ( I reinstall OS/format all the time, and have had no troubles get my license setup again within hours ). I have 3 copies so far and will be using Keyclone as long as I play wow.

I also use Innerspace. Excellent product and have been using Lax's stuff since EQ was the only real game in town. He also provides great service ( responds to issues/questions posted in IRC or forums very quickly )

[railz]

I use HKN, and been very impressed by the level of support for a totally free program. I will be loyal to this app for a long, long time.

[railz]

I wish I could donate to HKN too. He gives just as good a service and for free.

[turbonapkin]

Recently switched to Innerspace. The ISBoxer configuration tool was the turning point for me, prior to that i had tried IS once but was wasting too much time getting it working. Massively impressed with the PiP and virtual file features... it's like night and day!

[Xinxo]

I do have a keyclone license that i some times use if I am just using 2 toons, but normally I use 100% hardware.

[Adinsx]

I voted for keyclone. It's a great program with tons of features. Plus, the support is top notch. I reinstalled my OS and within an hour I had a new license.

[zanthor]

Recently switched to Innerspace. The ISBoxer configuration tool was the turning point for me, prior to that i had tried IS once but was wasting too much time getting it working. Massively impressed with the PiP and virtual file features... it's like night and day!Yea, I just redid my config using ISBoxer and it's amazing how easy it is to setup now. I mentioned elsewhere that I'd be setting up a full article on howto setup IS using ISBoxer. I think it'll actually be enough to get me off my ass and start leveling other teams (combined with some changes in 3.1.)

[Duese]

ACTool

Oh wait, is that program even around anymore?

Used AHK for a long time, tried out KeyClone but it just wasn't for me. About 2 months ago I picked up HKN and really liked it. I've been using it ever since (other than a few AHK scripts that I haven't converted yet).

[temple]

Keyclone user here. Like many many others here have stated Rob deserves 5 thumbs up for his fantastic customer service!

[Cromdar]

another Keyclone fan. not only is it a great product that I have never had any problem configuring or trying to implement something that was too complex to make happen (seems like most anything you want to do with it, keyclone makes it easy) but the support from Rob is unmatched. good support goes a long way these days

[wolpak]

So, Keyclone :: Macs as HKN :: PCs?

[zanthor]

So, Keyclone :: Macs as HKN :: PCs?English please?

HKN and KeyClone don't work on Mac's, so I'm at a loss as to what you are asking.

[wolpak]

I wrote it wrong, suppsoed to look like this:

KeyClone:MACs::HKN:PCs

Where : = is to and :: = as. Mondays make my head work slow.

[zanthor]

I wrote it wrong, suppsoed to look like this:

KeyClone:MACs::HKN:PCs

Where : = is to and :: = as. Mondays make my head work slow.So you are trying to say "Keyclone is to Macs as HotKeyNet is to PC's"?

this again makes no sense at all... KeyClone is a PC Multicasting solution, as is HotKeyNet... neither works on mac's, both work on PC's.

[wolpak]

I wrote it wrong, suppsoed to look like this:

KeyClone:MACs::HKN:PCs

Where : = is to and :: = as. Mondays make my head work slow.So you are trying to say "Keyclone is to Macs as HotKeyNet is to PC's"?

this again makes no sense at all... KeyClone is a PC Multicasting solution, as is HotKeyNet... neither works on mac's, both work on PC's.

Ok, it was a throw-away observation, and it is a simple SAT analogy.

Basically, Keyclone is easy to use and intuitive, but costs more, ala Macs. HotKeyNet is more complicated, but more robust and cheaper, ala Windows based PCs. Agree or disagree if you want, no need to go further. I hope that explanation of the analogy was sufficient for you.

[zanthor]

Ok, it was a throw-away observation, and it is a simple SAT analogy.

Basically, Keyclone is easy to use and intuitive, but costs more, ala Macs. HotKeyNet is more complicated, but more robust and cheaper, ala Windows based PCs. Agree or disagree if you want, no need to go further. I hope that explanation of the analogy was sufficient for you.Actually now that you spell that out it makes a LOT of sense, I was actually thinking along those lines in the hardware sense as in you can't customize a mac but its pretty and easy to use and does it's job within a given role... while a PC can be built specifically to your task but isn't as friendly to configure.

[PJP]

keyclone for me 8)

Got a recommendation from a friend for keyclone, started using it for my accounts and never felt a need to look elsewhere, you can just get it, run it and go play, easy as that.

[Vecter]

I started out using Keyclone for boxing. Easy to use, gets you going. Recently switched to ISBoxer/IS and haven't looked back. PiP swapping is second to none, Hotkeys and ingame macro creation, character sets, Trivial FTL setup and Focus based setup, etc etc. Great stuff.

[Marious]

Octopus for me it was not that hard to set up after I read some of Skarlots post and tutorials and some of the other tutorials out there, been using since I actually started MBing. Well dont on Skarlots part I have not used his new one yet to see how it works.

[Crucial]

Just switched over to Innerspace/ISBoxer.

The highly customizeable ISBoxer setup, instant PIP swapping and mouse repeater with fake cursors on other client windows sealed the deal for me.

[zanthor]

I started out using Keyclone for boxing. Easy to use, gets you going. Recently switched to ISBoxer/IS and haven't looked back. PiP swapping is second to none, Hotkeys and ingame macro creation, character sets, Trivial FTL setup and Focus based setup, etc etc. Great stuff.
Just switched over to Innerspace/ISBoxer.

The highly customizeable ISBoxer setup, instant PIP swapping and mouse repeater with fake cursors on other client windows sealed the deal for me.Seeing more and more of this, as IS gets easier to setup (ISBoxer) more people have access to the absolute performance that is IS.

[Jrr79]

Voted for keyclone. Its extremly simple to setup, has awsome support from the creator. 20 thumbs up!


KeyClone for the win! :thumbsup: On top of that it's cheap, easy to setup and the support can't be beat, period. The support is so fast, I wonder if the programmer sleeps with his pc.

[Whowantstoknow]

I started with winEQ2 and AHK back when I was playing DAoC
With Wow I started with Octopus then switched to Keyclone when it stopped being supported. I still used AHK for certain scripts
Now I exclusively use Innerspace and ISBoxer.

Some of the idiot proofing in ISBoxer is proving troublesome to me so I disable most of it (eg Jamba integration and easy FTL) and use the Wow macro functionality (love this by the way) to do the same things.

[F9thRet]

Keyclone guy here also, Good program, But the author has always been so approachable when it comes to questions.

Stephen

[Umka]

KeyClone -The Best ;)



2Author: Tnx for good support :)

[nakago]

InnerSpace + ISBoxer by far is the most powerful setup I have seen yet.

Compared to the other software I have used, I find it to be simply amazing.

The speed of the screen pip switching is worth the price all by itself. Now with ISBoxer making setup much much easier, it really is quiet amazing.

I had started using InnerSpace back in December of 2008, with Zanthor and Lax's help setting up all my custom settings. It worked great, the level of custom control was amazing.

I had stopped my druid team about a month later due to work constraints. I have recently got back in with a new RAF setup with my wife on a druid, and me on 4 x Shaman.

I had decided to redo my setup in ISBoxer, and after watching the videos on youtube on how to set it up, I was blazing, having my completed config done in no time ( and a pretty damn complex config at that )

ISBoxer has really done alot to level the playing field for ease of you, without losing any of the power of InnerSpace.

For my money nothing beats InnerSpace + ISBoxer.

As an extra note, I find Lax to be super approachable, and is almost always available for live chat on Lavishsoft's IRC channel, amazing support coupled with an amazing piece of software.

[korleonis]

Keyclone.

Every time I have had a problem, (twice, both my fault) the support has been right there and BAM!! I am back in business. and I have been using it over a year.

[Harem]

I use InnerSpace because of the keyclone bug with the left and right ctrl and alts.

I know Rob is right there for everyone else, because I see everyone post such here all the time. But on this bug I received no response from him in emails or from posts on this board for months (literally - I can show emails sent and posts on this board - just search all my posts on the problem and his posts in the corresponding time frames). He recently acknowledged (6+ months later) the bug after his latest version by indicating he is aware of it but hasn't fixed it yet. So he has put (I'm guessing) new features in the latest upgrade but hasn't finished squashing bugs that have been there since the last version at least. I bought 5 copies (1 for each machine) and can't use them if I want to be able to distinguish between left and right alt or ctrl in my macros.

I've pretty much given up on it though as I've finally worked out a nice system with IS that works well for me and Lax gives support beyond any I've received for any software product. Lax is almost always on his IRC channel giving tons of support to everyone who logs on to ask in real time and sometimes other people help out too.

[merujo]

As far as software solutions go, all i have to say is that, there's Keyclone and then, there's the rest.

It's easy to setup and i never considered trying another solution, cause i dont imagine better. I use Keyclone and whenever i want to share the mouse, i use synergy along with it. I even made a post about this on my blog http://5konnichiwa.blogspot.com/2008/10/multiboxing-software.html .
As for support it always was fast and very helpful.

[mefaircloth]

Keyclone is great and the support is spot on.


Mark

[zanthor]

As far as software solutions go, all i have to say is that, there's Keyclone and then, there's the rest.

It's easy to setup and i never considered trying another solution, cause i dont imagine better. I use Keyclone and whenever i want to share the mouse, i use synergy along with it. I even made a post about this on my blog http://5konnichiwa.blogspot.com/2008/10/multiboxing-software.html .
As for support it always was fast and very helpful.Hi, I've tried one product and no others and the one I've tried is obviously the best because I say so... Maybe this isn't what you are trying to say, maybe English is your second language, but wow that just comes off sounding uninformed.

Not that KeyClone isn't a good product, it does what it does very well, but there are other products that do more, and they do it quite well.

[holden]

been using hotkeynet for ~1 year ;)

[Vociferate]

Only used Keyclone, but to me it seems the most updated.

And since it renewed my interest in WoW, paying for it goes to the creator to give him a little love.

[Moorea]

the poll is gone for me too but this thread is long dead - why resurrect it ?

[Hotrian]

I didn't realize it was dead~ Just got Keyclone myself and it's still in the MoTD :x Sorry guys

[XeR0X]

10 boxing with keyclone =D

[Talos]

5 boxing (several teams, or mixing tanks within the teams) with ISBoxer
Used to use Keyclone (still love you Rob!) but after trying ISBoxer i fell in love with the ease of setup and extra utility

[Bloodcloud]

HKN all the way peps.

Especially with the "on screen buttons" mouseclick in an area of a screen presses key on Slave -> Superbly healing

E.g. Screen area is the area where healbot is and so It look like I am healing on my tank with healbot :)

<3 Freddy for this piece of fine software