Macaroon issue

[moog]

After losing numerous character setups when Bizzard cocked around with server-side caching of macros and keybinds, I took the plunge and migrated every single char, MB and SP, to Macaroon.

I'm quite concerned to see that Macaroon hasn't been upgraded since LK was released and that the current release craps out on the test servers (although someone has posted a workaround on the macaroon page).

As the author hasn't been spotted for some time, posting nothing on the macaroon page for many weeks, I'm worried that patch day will be *very* painful for me, so I'm thinking about taking some pre-emptive action... so, is there a.n.other bar/macro addon that does what Macaroon does and is supported?

[turbonapkin]

You're scaring me! Stop it!

I've never found any macro platform as well written and full featured as Macaroon, I was using it back when it was part of the trinity codebase.

Interested to hear of any alternatives that live up to Macaroon's ease of use and feature set.

[moog]

You're scaring me! Stop it!
Tell me about it!
I loved trinity and macaroon is now an integral part of all my chars... I don't want to move away from it but may have to :(

[Malekyth]

I'm in the process of switching to Macaroon. Agreed, it's very slick! I hope the author can keep up with it.

[elsegundo]

i switched to bartender4. its a bit easier to use but has its own limitations. if you just need a button mod, this replacement isnt all so bad.

[dRiN]

If the author doesn't return and dual spec will hit we are all doomed. Since actionbars will change bigtime : ( I use it for all my chars MB and SP.

[Frosty]

So has anyone found out if there will be an update for Macaroon after the next patch? (today?).

I am dreading having to set up another button add-on.

[moog]

No sign of the author :(

Patch day is here... the end of the world is nigh!

Actually, someone seems to have a workaround...

http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18454


IF YOU ARE PLAYING ON PTR, READ THIS!!!
Due to the changes made to SecureHandlerStateTemplate (SecureHandlerShowHideTemplate is removed), the newest version of Macaroon will NOT work on PTR 3.0.8. However, dewin posted probably working fix on WOWInterface which is available here:
http://www.wowinterface.com/download...uild3.0.8.html ('http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12136-MacaroonbugfixpatchforcurrentPTRbuild3.0.8.html')

If you are playing on PTR and wanna use Macaroon, please remember to apply this patch! Which links to a download which claims to fix Macaroon on the PTR so we can only hope it works on the live patch, too.

Being EU, I have to wait until tomorrow to test it on live but would welcome a heads up on whether it works or whether... THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH! :)

[genocyde]

Meh, I think I'm done with Macaroon. That addon has cause me several deaths and a good hour of frustration because of it's many issues. I say let the damn thing die and maybe someone will take up the charge to write an equivalent that actually works. I honestly regret switching to Macaroon to begin with and wish I would have stuck with another solution + macro length mod.

Anyone got a list of alternatives?
Bartender4
any others??

[Xar]

This is highly disappointing. I hope I'm not going to spend the next 2 days re-doing all my bars again like I did when 3.x hit and then when I switched to Macaroon.

Edit: I jumped to conclusions and said something I wish I could take back.

[Vyndree]

For those who have not yet logged into the game yet with the borked version of Macaroon:
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=10636#comments

I was able to use the patch for the PTR:

http://www.wowinterface.com/download...uild3.0.8.html

But I had to restore a backed up WTF file (WTF\Account\Account Name\Server\Character\Saved VAriables\Macaroon.*) to get my bars back...seems if you log out it will wipe them all from the LUA and you have to start from scratch.


So, it looks like you won't lose any of your macros as long as you update the addon with the 3rd party fixit patch ('http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12136-MacaroonbugfixpatchforcurrentPTRbuild3.0.8.html') FIRST, then log in SECOND. The reports are that the update in the official Macaroon addon thread does NOT work, but just make sure to make a copy of your WTF folder and you may still be able to load your bars from the saved profiles after using the 3rd party fix ('http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12136-MacaroonbugfixpatchforcurrentPTRbuild3.0.8.html').


EDIT: Also in the comments ('http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=10636&so=&page=2#comments')...

The sky is not falling. It's been updated today in time for the 3.0.8 patch on live.

EDIT: BTW, thanks Maul!

http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=10636&so=&page=2#changelog

30000.30 -
3.0.8 Update - Updated for maul by a friend

http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=10636#comments

Edit: This version isn't working for me, but the fix that had been linked earlier is ( http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18454 ).

NOTE: I had to go back to an archived version of my preferences in the WTF folder for the toon I'd logged in with using this update (no bars showed even after applying the patch linked above) so use with caution

[dbick]

Does anyone know where macaroon stores the macros? I am wanting to use bartender4 instaed but I dont want to recreate all of the macros that I created using macaroon, I can't seem to find them.

[Xar]

*** Backup your WTF folder BEFORE logging in ***

That way in case it gets hosed you can copy it all back.

Macaroon macros are stored in WTF -> Account -> {acctname} -> {Server} -> {ToonName} -> SavedVariables -> Macaroon.lua

[jinx08]

Does anyone know where macaroon stores the macros? I am wanting to use bartender4 instaed but I dont want to recreate all of the macros that I created using macaroon, I can't seem to find them.
Not sure if there is an easier way to do it but if u go to your wow folder then WTF> Account> "your account name"> "the server"> "character"> Saved Variables> then go down to Macaroon.lua, u should be able to find them there. If it prompts you with which program to open it with, choose wordpad :)

Back to the subject, Macaroon not working with the new patch doesn't bode well at all. :( Having got my FTL setup just right, I need the extra characters for macros.
Does anyone know any other addons that extend macro length? I don't know why Blizzard doesn't just extend it beyond 255 chars...

[jinx08]

*** Backup your WTF folder BEFORE logging in ***

That way in case it gets hosed you can copy it all back.

Macaroon macros are stored in WTF -> Account -> {acctname} -> {Server} -> {ToonName} -> SavedVariables -> Macaroon.luaHeh beat me to it!! :pinch:

[Kissell13]

Bartender4 for bars and button configs and bindpad for extra charaters and more macros is what ive been using

[zanthor]

Please note the hack fix says line 1601 but I found the appropriate line @ 1061...

[jinx08]

Bartender4 for bars and button configs and bindpad for extra charaters and more macros is what ive been usingJust downloaded and tried Bindpad out. Works great! Thanks :)

[Redbeard]

What problems are you guys having with Macaroon? Once I figured out what I was doing its all pretty gravy, thoug I dont do anything crazy with it.

Edit: Clarification, i know that 3.08 caused some problems, i mean the problems that are causing you to switch off of Macaroon.

[Vyndree]

As I posted on teh official thread ('http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=10636#comments')...

My experience with Patch 3.0.8:
0. *** BACKED UP MY WTF FOLDER! ***
1. Patched WoW.
2. Did NOT log in.
3. Updated Macaroon to the newest version here on this page
4. Logged in (no bars)
5. Patched to the 3rd party "fix" linked here: http://www.wowinterface.com/download...uild3.0.8.html
6. Logged in (bars show)

Tested:
1. Loading/unloading profiles -- OK!
2. Changing stances (Tree of Life form, Caster form) -- OK!
3. Editing macro buttons -- OK!
4. Saving a profile -- OK!
5. Creating a new bar -- OK!

In other words, I see no problems once I updated to the 3rd party "fix" directly over the current version of Macaroon found on this official WoWInterface page.


I ran these steps on 4 additional computers with 4 additional accounts and have the same experience. In other words, I can't reproduce the stance issue -- however, my boyfriend (running these steps) has his buttons stuck in the default stance on his WARRIOR, so it's possible druids are exempt from this issue?

[daviddoran]

so if I was naive, and logged in without the patch (but I DID update my addons before loggin in...) am I screwed? Or will i have to start from scratch and/or find an old wtf backup?

[Malekyth]

Worked for me! Thanks Vyndree.

[moog]

As I posted on teh My experience with Patch 3.0.8:
0. *** BACKED UP MY WTF FOLDER! ***
1. Patched WoW.
2. Did NOT log in.
3. Updated Macaroon to the newest version here on this page
4. Logged in (no bars)
5. Patched to the 3rd party "fix" linked here: http://www.wowinterface.com/download...uild3.0.8.html
6. Logged in (bars show)

Tested:
1. Loading/unloading profiles -- OK!
2. Changing stances (Tree of Life form, Caster form) -- OK!
3. Editing macro buttons -- OK!
4. Saving a profile -- OK!
5. Creating a new bar -- OK!

In other words, I see no problems once I updated to the 3rd party "fix" directly over the current version of Macaroon found on this official WoWInterface page.


I ran these steps on 4 additional computers with 4 additional accounts and have the same experience. In other words, I can't reproduce the stance issue -- however, my boyfriend (running these steps) has his buttons stuck in the default stance on his WARRIOR, so it's possible druids are exempt from this issue? ('http://www.wowinterface.com/download...uild3.0.8.html')
That didn't work for me :(

I followed your guidelines...

pre-patch, back up the WTF directory
apply WoW patch
apply the official Macaroon patch (v30000.30)
logged in - no bars
applied the 3rd party fix
logged in - still no bars :(

and then did...
restored the macaroon*.lua files from the character's WTF directory
logged in - bars and buttons are back :)

All seems fine again... phew!

[Varmon]

I just backed up my WTF config and applied the 3rd party macaroon fix (not the new official version), everything seemed fine. No issues yet that I know of

[genocyde]

Well, the main problems that come to mind that caused me to abandon macaroon are:

I use 8 WoW folders for 5 accounts, 5 are for individual boxing setups. 1 for raid, 1 for arena, 1 for solo. This was actually the reason I got macaroon as I had way to many macro's and some of them were huge and it was nice to be able to save different setups for same toon. After a while though I decided that doing this with Macaroon just causes all my keybinds to get messed up alot (even though all action bars are the same binds and the same bars as every other folder)

Macros do not work the same as in game macros. I found myself nearly maxing out my available wow macros just for the specific macros macaroon can't handle or doesn't do right.

My priest has a chronic UI error cause by macaroon on like 5 different macros and I wasn't able to solve it.

For some reason my vehicle bar kept losing it's keybindings in the middle of SotAncients

Having to have 2 possess bars to handle pet vehicles was really annoying. Somehow I think this was a setup issue on my part but with the rest of the issues with that program, it wasn't worth it.

I did have a wrong version installed for a while, but I followed the really great guide posted here for /click macros and by the time I was done with that I realized that my macros were so damn complicated that most of them didn't work the same as an ingame version or they had an annoying error message on screen 90% of the time.

I switched back to bartender 4 and for 2 weeks now I couldn't have been happier. I imagine most of it was due to my non-traditional more than one install / toon and the fact that I write retarded macros for 6 different classes.

EDIT: Besides I never found any useful functionality that was unique to macaroon. What part of that addon was it that makes you guys use it despite the issues and the fact it's not being updated.

[Xar]

Macaroon was great, it could have unlimited bars and unlimited macros. I even had made a panel of Macaroon macros that wrote 4 standard WoW totem macros so that on any shaman I could show the panel (through Macaroon hide/unhide macro) click a totem to change the real macro. That way I wouldn't have to open my damn spell book, go hunt for a totem then drag it to the bar.

I get a persistent Macaroon error now so I can't use it or have to re-do everything in Macaroon...been trying bindpad, it's ok. Tried Bartender 4 also last night and it's clunky and not very robust.

[Kekkis]

As I posted on teh My experience with Patch 3.0.8:
0. *** BACKED UP MY WTF FOLDER! ***
1. Patched WoW.
2. Did NOT log in.
3. Updated Macaroon to the newest version here on this page
4. Logged in (no bars)
5. Patched to the 3rd party "fix" linked here: http://www.wowinterface.com/download...uild3.0.8.html
6. Logged in (bars show)

Tested:
1. Loading/unloading profiles -- OK!
2. Changing stances (Tree of Life form, Caster form) -- OK!
3. Editing macro buttons -- OK!
4. Saving a profile -- OK!
5. Creating a new bar -- OK!

In other words, I see no problems once I updated to the 3rd party "fix" directly over the current version of Macaroon found on this official WoWInterface page.


I ran these steps on 4 additional computers with 4 additional accounts and have the same experience. In other words, I can't reproduce the stance issue -- however, my boyfriend (running these steps) has his buttons stuck in the default stance on his WARRIOR, so it's possible druids are exempt from this issue? ('http://www.wowinterface.com/download...uild3.0.8.html')
That didn't work for me :(

I followed your guidelines...

pre-patch, back up the WTF directory
apply WoW patch
apply the official Macaroon patch (v30000.30)
logged in - no bars
applied the 3rd party fix
logged in - still no bars :(

and then did...
restored the macaroon*.lua files from the character's WTF directory
logged in - bars and buttons are back :)

All seems fine again... phew!Gotta love this addon, I got 3 computers and at the moment 0 working macaroons. I tried all the tricks I could found here and from wowinterface page, and still no bars at all.. H U O H ! Well Once again, I need to do macros, bars etc for a 10+ toons, love is in the air atm..

[Malekyth]

I forgot to add ... between "use 3rd party fix" and "weeee, all my bars are back, I did have to load a Macaroon profile (just one; the other accounts didn't require it) to get bars to show up after following Vyndree's directions. Your mileage may vary, but if you haven't tried that, definitely do.

[Bovidae]

Dammit, where was all this good information before I logged in last night and lost all my macros and bars???

[Vyndree]

What part of that addon was it that makes you guys use it despite the issues and the fact it's not being updated.

1. Profiles (can switch between "solo raiding" bars/macros/keybindings to "multibox healing" bars/macros/keybindings to "multibox dpsing" bars/macros/keybindings in a couple clicks)
2. Unlimited # of buttons, macros and ginormous macro length

You could actually use Macaroon much like you do normal WoW -- you just bind things to action buttons (the standard WoW bars) rather than Macaroon buttons and they'd show up as normal when you log in without Macaroon present. Of course, that means you'd have to use normal /macros and the like, but it's very flexible. I moved to Macaroon from Trinity, and moved to Trinity from Bartender -- I'd hate to have to resort to going back to Bartender. I used to keep a seperate WTF folder just for switching between raid healing and multibox healing (main) and multibox healing (follower) that would swap all of my in-game /macros, and just design my macros and bars around this limitation. Really sucked, though.

The dev for Macaroon was actually quite active (even here on these boards), but from what I understand, his reason for being MIA has to do with an inability to access a computer at this time. I'm hoping he's OK, since when he was around he was great to work with.

[Tanntyn]

Is it not possible for someone here to pick up the project and take a look at the issues we are having with it? I mean, all due respect to the orig author, but if he cann't be here to fix it, then why not the community come to the rescue? I'd do it if I understood programing at all.

[Kekkis]

My "fix" was this. Delete Macaroon, download Bartender 4 -> setup it, and play :P

[Sam DeathWalker]

Good work Vyndree, got my macaroon up and working in no time following yur directions (and the fact i have about 20 backups of my wtf file lol). Hope Maul shows up soon, I sure dont want to move to a different solution.

[davedontmind]

Does anyone know where macaroon stores the macros? I am wanting to use bartender4 instaed but I dont want to recreate all of the macros that I created using macaroon, I can't seem to find them.
They're in the Macaroon SavedVariables file, which is (If I recall correctly - I'm not at my WoW PC right now so I can't confirm the exact filename/path) something like:

.../WTF/<accountName>/<toonName>/SavedVariables/Macaroon.lua

The macros are buried somewhere deep in the file along with loads of other configuration info.

[Tynk]

I do so love how I have mine set up. :) With my "base configuration" saved, all I lost was the locations of my character specific macro's, and 90% of those are just drag and drop from my spell book. So once I found the fix, I just loaded the profile and I was set to go.

As to why I use macaroon?

In order to set this up I have 15 different bars and around 40 macro's in my "base configuartion" that does not include actual casted macro's. That is not possible with any other add on I am aware of.

[Kel]

I didn't realise there had been any API changes that could impact on addons, so I logged in yesterday without changing anything. My ui looked lovely and clean, but unfortunately empty of actionbars, menu and rep bar. Then I went to get the latest version of macaroon thinking that that would fix it.

By the end of trying I'd managed to get a cast bar and rep bar to show up, luckily I wasn't planning to play anyway so it wasn't too annoying. Unfortunately I didn't save any profiles recently, so I'll have to redo that from scratch. I'm raiding tonight, so my main objective will be to find something that works for that, I think I'll probably look into a new mod that is less likely to completely break my interface should it stop working.

I was a real fan of trinity after I'd got to grips with it and I liked the way Macaroon was heading, but it's never felt completely finished to me (anchor buttons still not working, changing from one profile to another could lead to issues) and as I'd need to redo my actionbars anyway I figure I might aswell go for something with a little more stability.

[genocyde]

What part of that addon was it that makes you guys use it despite the issues and the fact it's not being updated.

1. Profiles
Possibly the only thing about that addon that ever worked right for me. Also the single greatest feature of any action bar mod ever. It's the only reason I didn't immediately delete the rest of that addon when I had a persisting error in 90% of my macaroon macro's, and poor functionality in possess/vehicle bars


You could actually use Macaroon much like you do normal WoW -- you just bind things to action buttons (the standard WoW bars) rather than Macaroon buttons and they'd show up as normal when you log in without Macaroon present. Of course, that means you'd have to use normal /macros and the like, but it's very flexible.
I became very familiar with this function while using Macaroon as I had to use normal /macros alot due to Macaroon not working with certain macro commands correctly. I would rather use an addon like bartender, with limited options but rock solid, then an addon that has a bunch of great functionality that doesn't work properly.

However if Macaroon were ever fixed I would go back to it in a heartbeat. I'm sorry that addon is too broken to be useful to me right now. There's plenty of addons that cover macaroons core goodness but are updated and function completely. It's just a shame to need 2-4 addons to do the same thing as 1 and still be missing out on the best 1-2 features.

I miss discord action bars. To bad 90% of what that mod did was changed to protected functions.

[zanthor]

I realize that 1 line code edits are hard for the average player, but I'd expect any multiboxer worth his assist macro to be able to muddle through it...

I made that change, and everything was solid.

[genocyde]

Not sure if your talking to me Zanthor.... but if you are, my Macaroon was broken long before 3.0.8 and I abandoned it weeks ago because I've been doing a lot of serious arena and a macro error message or broken keybind mid match was costing me matches so I went back to using Bartender for solo character play and just dealing with it.

I have been trying as many options as I can for my 5 box hoping something can rival Macaroon or I may end up with Macaroon and a separate install for Solo/Arena

[Xar]

Ok update for me....

So far priest and warlock do not have any errors when running Macaroon. All shamans were converted to Bindpad & standard blizzard bars because of a persistent Macaroon_Buttons error that would pop up every few seconds and eventually make WoW want to disable it (got the too many errors message).

What I have been able to determine so far (and still investigating) is that the error that pops up has to do with passing a null castsequence spell through a lower() function in the add on script. I manually edited one of my shamans /castsequences to fill in "abc" between (and before) commas in the Macaroon.lua in shaman's WTF folder and the errors went away. I logged in to find that Macaroon was no longer complaining but had since restored the entire WTF folder and in my next test I got the errors again.

Does anyone know of a "null" type spell that I can use between commas that would be a valid do nothing spell? I'll do more testing and report back later tonight.

The one other concern (because I miss Macaroon on my shamans) is someone else reported having some fps/lag issues with Macaroon running. I somewhat agree because when the crazy AOE in LWG happens I would drop down to almost do fps and my LWG oRA2 autoinvite would sometimes not catch an "INVITE" whisper. Late last night after LWG was up and running I had the default blizz bars oRA2 invites were almost instantaneous with the auto invites. Does anyone else have lag or fps issues when using Macaroon?

[Vyndree]

Does anyone know of a "null" type spell that I can use between commas that would be a valid do nothing spell?

Try a out-of-combat rez. ;) If you're in combat or there's nobody to heal, it'll just sit there.

Or you could try something like "Refreshing Spring Water" -- it might maybe work since the item does exist in the game, but you 1) can't use it in combat and 2) aren't likely to have lowbie water in your bag at 80?

Just ideas.

[zanthor]

Does anyone know of a "null" type spell that I can use between commas that would be a valid do nothing spell?

Try a out-of-combat rez. ;) If you're in combat or there's nobody to heal, it'll just sit there.

Or you could try something like "Refreshing Spring Water" -- it might maybe work since the item does exist in the game, but you 1) can't use it in combat and 2) aren't likely to have lowbie water in your bag at 80?

Just ideas.If you are talking about using this for castsequence spell,,,, utilization an out of combat spell will simply stall the cycle permanently in combat.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Macaroon storage structure is a bit more complex then a single file. You need to open up each file named maca* in the wtf folder (and all sub folder). Ingnor the .bak ones but all the others may have to be changed at the same time. Just doing the one file in the top directory isnt going to cut it. Unfortunatly you are just better off doing changes in game. And thats just for one character, if you look close at all the files you open you will see that most of the information is character spicific and if you want things to work the same for another character all that has to get changed also.

I didnt have problems with /castsequence ,,,lightning bolt etc. but I have not used them since the patch.

You can try ending with a comma, I really havn't figured it out if its needed or not:

I.e. /castsequence ,,heal, instead of /castsequence ,,heal

Not sure why the last command would need a comma becuase nothing follow it but if a xxx, is a "unit" that is looked for then not finding the trailing comma would cause problems.

[Ghallo]

I had the same line 2322 error you are having Xar (or at least I think they are the same). Thanks to your experiments I was able to work around it... I just took all my cast sequence macros with empty commas
#showtooltip Howl of Terror
/castsequence reset=30 ,Howl of Terror for example, and put those in as a Blizzard Macro - then placed the Blizz macro on my Macaroon bar. Not the best option I know, but at least I'm not getting the errors anymore.


if (self.macrospell) then
if (lower(spell) == lower(match(self.macrospell, "^[^(]+"))) then
self.updateicon = true
end
updateMacro_OnEvent(self)
updateMacroCooldown_OnEvent(self, true)
end


Line 2 from above seems to be the issue.

[Sam DeathWalker]

From a post a few months ago:

Ya me also line 2322 or something, I think I going into it and disable it I dont know what it does though lol ... but seeing its giving error whatever it does isnt being done anyways. Just search for a "lua editor" and it will count the lines for you and just go in and delete the command at that line.

its in the Addons Macaroon Macaroon_buttons.lua file


Here is the line:

if (lower(spell) == lower(match(self.macrospell, "^[^(]+"))) then
self.updateicon = true

Here is the error

Interface\AddOns\Macaroon\Macaroon_Butons.lua:2322 : bad argument #1 to 'lower' (string expected, got nil)

you can pass that infos on to maul

Im changing:

if (lower(spell) == lower(match(self.macrospell, "^[^(]+"))) then
self.updateicon = true
end

to:

self.updateicon = true


in my copy

seems to work ok after that fix.


Whats happeneing is that the 2322 error is back (addon causing to many errors close or ignor) cause we downloading the new macaroon and it dosnt have our fix in it.

[Vyndree]

Does anyone know of a "null" type spell that I can use between commas that would be a valid do nothing spell?

Try a out-of-combat rez. ;) If you're in combat or there's nobody to heal, it'll just sit there.

Or you could try something like "Refreshing Spring Water" -- it might maybe work since the item does exist in the game, but you 1) can't use it in combat and 2) aren't likely to have lowbie water in your bag at 80?

Just ideas.If you are talking about using this for castsequence spell,,,, utilization an out of combat spell will simply stall the cycle permanently in combat.

That's what "null" does as well. Stalls the macro until the "reset" condition is hit (keeping in mind that the reset condition is... well... reset... every time you press the macro)

[bryce]

I just gave up on Macaroon. Got the lastest updated one and go to do /mac create bar and it doesn't let me hit enter to give the command. If I do /mac create then it just shows bar:

So, I'll just leave it alone unless someone knows how to use it lol.