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gaiusbulltar
01-15-2009, 04:20 PM
I've been dual boxing a feral druid and a priest. I've run most of the level 80 heroics, and am just starting into Naxx with my guild. But there are a several things that are very challenging for me to do in a dual box environment, which may be an artifact of my setup *. I'm wondering if any other multi boxers have encountered these, and what workarounds might be useful?

Following vehicles - /follow doesn't seem to work right when both toons are in vehicles. This is mainly a problem for things like Wintergrasp and the Wyrmrest dragon daily, which are not such a big deal, but the Oculus uses vehicles (and vehicles' abilities) for a substantial portion. I've been avoiding Heroic Oculus for this reason.

Independent movement - There are a few bosses that require independent movement for all characters at some points. Drakkari Coloussus in Gundrak drops puddles which players must move out of quickly, and the /follow lag doesn't cut it. Loken in Halls of Lightning has a lightning nova that has to be escaped quickly (and he must be returned to quickly afterward); again, /follow fail. Anub'Rekhan in the Arachnid Quarter was tricky, having to move my tank constantly during the kiting phase while still doing stuff with the healer. For these, I've resorted to putting one hand on each keyboard, hoping my brain doesn't explode.

Targeting in 25-player raids - I've got macros set up that send F1-F5 to my priest's box, as well as the normal hotkeys. So I can target a group member and drop a heal on them without having to mouse over to the priest's box. Works great, but doesn't scale. For 10-player raids, I can use F1-F10 if I manually set up /target macros for the ten players - some initial overhead, but works fine once I remember who's mapped to what. But for 25-player raids, I'm stumped. I was thinking of trying to cook up an addon that lets me right-click the player frame on my main box to send a /whisper to the 2nd box that instructs them to target that player, but I don't think the addon API supports that. Adding meta keys could help a little, but the task of memorizing who's mapped to [Shift][Control][F1-F10] for each and every raid is frightening. So far I've found it easiest to go with one toon at a time to the 25-player raid instances, at least while I'm still learning them. But in the long run, I'd like to put together tools to do these effectively too.

Arena - totally at a loss on how to do anything reasonable here. Predictability seems to be important at least for my current setup.

* My setup: I'm using two computers (Macs) with Synergy for keyboard and mouse sharing. I've mapped Command-X on the main box to send X to the second box, where X is any combination of Shift, Alt, Control, and primary key (0-9, -, =, F1-F19, arrow keys). I use Bartender on both computers to map [Shift][Control]{0-9,-,=} to 48 bar buttons, with Alt as self-cast. I use Pitbull for replacement unit frames and activate "show target of party member" for some extra feedback about who my priest has targeted. I use ThankGod on the second box to get audiovisual warnings for things like Surge of Light and Holy Concentration proc.

Niley
01-15-2009, 06:20 PM
Drakkari Coloussus in Gundrak drops puddles which players must move out of quickly

not true. You can do whole fight without moving an inch.


Loken in Halls of Lightning has a lightning nova that has to be escaped quickly

You can also stay in, and just heal through it, one of the easier, if not the easiest boss to box.


Anub'Rekhan

Spread out, heal through damage, kill venom guys fast....and You dont have to move :P



and that's all i can help You with here \o/

gaiusbulltar
01-15-2009, 06:48 PM
Drakkari Coloussus in Gundrak drops puddles which players must move out of quicklynot true. You can do whole fight without moving an inch.

Loken in Halls of Lightning has a lightning nova that has to be escaped quicklyYou can also stay in, and just heal through it, one of the easier, if not the easiest boss to box.

Anub'RekhanSpread out, heal through damage, kill venom guys fast....and You dont have to move :P

and that's all i can help You with here \o/Interesting. After reading guides to these encounters, I guess I just assumed I'd have to move around a lot too, and got frustrated when it didn't work out so well. If healing through these just works, though, it will be a lot easier!

I can see it working for the first Colossus and Loken, but I'm skeptical about Anub'Rekhan -- my health went down FAST when the debuff stacked. Then again, we had only 2 healers; maybe a 3rd would do the trick.

I guess the benefits we lose though lack of mobility are offset by what we gain through tightly coordinated action, heals especially. My healer always knows exactly what my tank is planning to do :)

Thanks

Mercurio
01-15-2009, 06:50 PM
Following vehicles - /follow doesn't seem to work right when both toons are in vehicles. This is mainly a problem for things like Wintergrasp and the Wyrmrest dragon daily

I did the Wyrmrest daily for the 1st time yesterday. I 5-box, so I just got on the dragon "vehicle" on my main, then mounted up the other four toons on their flying mounts and hit /follow. The main does all the work as a dragon, the alts follow around, and everyone gets quest credit.

gaiusbulltar
01-15-2009, 06:57 PM
Following vehicles - /follow doesn't seem to work right when both toons are in vehicles. This is mainly a problem for things like Wintergrasp and the Wyrmrest dragon daily

I did the Wyrmrest daily for the 1st time yesterday. I 5-box, so I just got on the dragon "vehicle" on my main, then mounted up the other four toons on their flying mounts and hit /follow. The main does all the work as a dragon, the alts follow around, and everyone gets quest credit.Yeah, that's what I ended up doing eventually. I was trying to figure out if I could do the quest faster using the abilities from multiple vehicles, but it was more hassle than it was worth. At least it's not a collection quest!

Pact
01-15-2009, 10:11 PM
For 25 Player raids and your tanking, just tell people that your priest is covering yourself and assign yourself to be your healer.

the easiest way to do this is to use target = targettargettarget in your healing macro. Assuming you can hold aggro youll always be healing yourself.

Also if your jsut dpsing this will allow you to be on main tank duty for a single boss.