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Naxxz
01-06-2009, 10:08 PM
Hi, just wanted to share my story with you all.
I started multi boxing about 3 months ago as alliance after being horde for a long time.
I have leveled 3 teams to 60 during my R.A.F time, Druids, Locks and shaman.
I Have used my grantable levels to grant 6 lvl 60's and I started a DK team and got them to 70.
All my accounts are upgraded to Wotlk.
The only reason I went with alliance was because I hate Taurens and wanted a Druid team and I dont mind the look of Night elfs.
It has taken me 3 months to figure out that I really dont like playing on the Alliance side and that I miss my forsaken and blood elf's.
I know it is stupid to dump 3 months of effort over somthing as trivial as faction or race but I feel it is really important so in the next 5 minutes I will be ordering 5 new copies of wow/BC/Wotlk and starting over.
I know I said story but it kind of turned into a list.....sorry, but I have one question for you all. (kind of the point to this thread really :) )

Have you done anything in your multi boxing time that you have regreted or wish you could change?
Just so I can feel a little less stupid :P

Thanks for your time :)

Stabface
01-06-2009, 10:22 PM
Yes its a terrible mistake to order 5 new copies of the game if you already own 5 copies and could just reroll characters instead...

bigp3rm
01-06-2009, 10:23 PM
Yes its a terrible mistake to order 5 new copies of the game if you already own 5 copies and could just reroll characters instead...

Yeah I didn't understand that myself.

Naxxz
01-06-2009, 10:26 PM
RAF has run out, im not leveling 3 more groups without 3x xp would rather jam a wire coat hanger down the end of my..........I just couldn't do it :P

elsegundo
01-06-2009, 10:28 PM
because he wants the RAF benefits.


also, i spent my first year in WoW playing as alliance. once i discovered what it was like to play as horde, i counted an entire year wasted. so... 3 months vs. 1 year... erm not so bad. dont worry about it. and when you get a wifey or friends who want to play with you, and insists on alliance, then you have some characters to fall back on! =]

Naxxz
01-06-2009, 10:31 PM
because he wants the RAF benefits.


also, i spent my first year in WoW playing as alliance. once i discovered what it was like to play as horde, i counted an entire year wasted. so... 3 months vs. 1 year... erm not so bad. dont worry about it. and when you get a wifey or friends who want to play with you, and insists on alliance, then you have some characters to fall back on! =]


Never really thought of it like that, thanks :)

Stabface
01-06-2009, 10:34 PM
Well you don't need 5 new copies to get RAF. 3 at most.
You could also wait until next patch and roll DK's anywhere, or do it right now on your own server if you are on PvE.

But whatever makes you happy :)

elsegundo
01-06-2009, 10:41 PM
Well you don't need 5 new copies to get RAF. 3 at most.
You could also wait until next patch and roll DK's anywhere, or do it right now on your own server if you are on PvE.

But whatever makes you happy :)yea those 3 accounts you're using can RAF 2. then you'll have 5.

suicidesspyder
01-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Yea i also started on horde friends who got me into game were on horde so... Then as i went along i wanted to try alliance so i rolled alliance. I made all my dk's on alliance and just love alliance now. I dont think it was a big mistake at least this way you know where everything on either faction is helps alot so if a member in guild ask where son so on opp. faction is you know. Also helps on the world explorer achievements lol.

Naxxz
01-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Thanks for your input guys you've gone and saved me money, One of the many reasons I love coming to this site is cause of people like you :)

gtheis
01-06-2009, 11:32 PM
Suppose it all depends what your time is worth vs affordability for ya, and after having experienced RAF I tend to side with your thoughts... I had something similar where I had my entire 5-box team and a few supporting characters move to a new server, after a few months *really* missed the old one... that's an expensive mistake to fix as well :(

GizmoxLoW
01-07-2009, 12:02 AM
heres what you do. Ive done this and it works its not an exploit, its not a scam

Start up 5 new accounst with the RAF do the DIGITAL upgrade only to regular WoW. grind all the way to 60 Transfer all the characters off these accounts to your main ones. Call blizzard and ask for a refund on the 5 accounts that you upgraded. Blizzard offers a 30 day money back guarentee on all games-period. if you went and bought store copies of the game you would have to send in the box and manuals to get the refund. I started 5 boxing 2 days before they announced the RAF promotion and i called blizz, told them i wanted a refund they froze the 5 accounts, gave me credit back on my CC and i started brand new ones.


and for the record you CAN transfer characters off a regular(not trial) account onto an upgraded(xpac) account.

heffner
01-07-2009, 01:09 AM
Listen to Gizmo =) Was just going to suggest considering the same thing (less the refund, didn't know about that...thanks!! ). The only risk is that the transfer takes more than a couple of weeks. The few times I did it, it was within a week, but that is no guarantee. Still worth the risk IMO.

For me, I played alliance since the beginning. Heck my first multibox teams were Alliance. I realized I should try Horde half way through my RAF and finished up the rest of my RAF on Horde toons. Honestly, I never really noticed any difference besides the annoyingly huge Tauren....I might actually give him a sex change. Of course, I am 90% PVE.

shaeman
01-07-2009, 05:14 AM
I was a confirmed horde player for years.

Solo levelling 3 different classes to 70 and did some twinking etc.

Started multiboxing as most of the people I played with moved on, or quit till Wrath. I got a team of shaman and pally to 60.

Then I re-established contact with some ex-guild friends who had moved over to alliance. I leveled a small team to 60. pally, mage,mage and druid.

I loved the druid so much, and needed to get to 70 to be more involved with the guild at high level and so concentrated on him. I've since levelled him to 80.

So I've burned over 2 years of horde time - and don't regret it for 1 second. My only wish was that Blizzard would allow swapping sides with characters, but that looks very unlikely. (never say never)

Initially I struggled with being alliance. At every alliance town I would see characters I wanted to kill (I'm on a pve server, but I'd done enough bgs to view alliance as the enemy).

Over time this situation has reversed and want to kill horde.

Don't delete your alliance characters. Then no matter what happens you can pick up on the other side when needed.

Hachoo
01-07-2009, 11:32 AM
I can't believe after playing horde so long you thought being alliance would be good!

I've been playing Horde for 3 1/2 years, tried alliance a couple times and o...m...g. The average IQ it seems is about 50 lower than the avg Horde IQ (which isn't very high to begin with). Seriously I had to give up playing alliance the 2 times I tried because there were so many idiots I couldn't actually find someone with enough intelligence to formulate a coherent sentence.

This was while single boxing - was never able to run a single instance because I couldn't find 4 other people that could function enough to get to the instance much less not die. As a multiboxer I wouldn't have to worry about that but I'd still have to listen to the stupidity in /say, /1, /2, etc constantly.

I remember my first day trying alliance, I went to stormwind, and I was running around one of those pools, and I saw someone using /say and screaming for help. I was like "uh...what?". Turns out he was in the pool and had been stuck there for 30 f'ing minutes and couldn't figure out how to get out. He kept asking me "OMG HOW DO I GET OUT OF HERE?".

Now, besides the fact that he could have just used a hearth, or the auto-unstuck feature, the stairs were like 5 yards from him.

That was the first time I quit playing alliance (5 hours after I started). I've NEVER met someone that dumb on the horde side - I mean this is like 2 year old dumb, not 10 year old dumb. Second time I tried was similar only instead of sheer stupidity it was all the whining and idiocy on public chat channels that got to me.

Maybe the average maturity level of horde on my server is just different then other servers, I don't know, but I'm SERIOUSLY biased towards horde because of my shitty experiences trying to play alliance. And, all my RL friends have had the same issues and none of them ever stayed alliance for more than a week.

Also, in our battlegroup, horde pretty much wins all BGs.

Dominian
01-07-2009, 11:50 AM
I can't believe after playing horde so long you thought being alliance would be good!

I've been playing Horde for 3 1/2 years, tried alliance a couple times and o...m...g. The average IQ it seems is about 50 lower than the avg Horde IQ (which isn't very high to begin with). Seriously I had to give up playing alliance the 2 times I tried because there were so many idiots I couldn't actually find someone with enough intelligence to formulate a coherent sentence.

This was while single boxing - was never able to run a single instance because I couldn't find 4 other people that could function enough to get to the instance much less not die. As a multiboxer I wouldn't have to worry about that but I'd still have to listen to the stupidity in /say, /1, /2, etc constantly.

I remember my first day trying alliance, I went to stormwind, and I was running around one of those pools, and I saw someone using /say and screaming for help. I was like "uh...what?". Turns out he was in the pool and had been stuck there for 30 f'ing minutes and couldn't figure out how to get out. He kept asking me "OMG HOW DO I GET OUT OF HERE?".

Now, besides the fact that he could have just used a hearth, or the auto-unstuck feature, the stairs were like 5 yards from him.

That was the first time I quit playing alliance (5 hours after I started). I've NEVER met someone that dumb on the horde side - I mean this is like 2 year old dumb, not 10 year old dumb. Second time I tried was similar only instead of sheer stupidity it was all the whining and idiocy on public chat channels that got to me.

Maybe the average maturity level of horde on my server is just different then other servers, I don't know, but I'm SERIOUSLY biased towards horde because of my shitty experiences trying to play alliance. And, all my RL friends have had the same issues and none of them ever stayed alliance for more than a week.

Also, in our battlegroup, horde pretty much wins all BGs.

I laughed hard off that! :)

Horde forever <3

Bigfish
01-07-2009, 12:03 PM
I can't believe after playing horde so long you thought being alliance would be good!

I've been playing Horde for 3 1/2 years, tried alliance a couple times and o...m...g. The average IQ it seems is about 50 lower than the avg Horde IQ (which isn't very high to begin with). Seriously I had to give up playing alliance the 2 times I tried because there were so many idiots I couldn't actually find someone with enough intelligence to formulate a coherent sentence.

This was while single boxing - was never able to run a single instance because I couldn't find 4 other people that could function enough to get to the instance much less not die. As a multiboxer I wouldn't have to worry about that but I'd still have to listen to the stupidity in /say, /1, /2, etc constantly.

I remember my first day trying alliance, I went to stormwind, and I was running around one of those pools, and I saw someone using /say and screaming for help. I was like "uh...what?". Turns out he was in the pool and had been stuck there for 30 f'ing minutes and couldn't figure out how to get out. He kept asking me "OMG HOW DO I GET OUT OF HERE?".

Now, besides the fact that he could have just used a hearth, or the auto-unstuck feature, the stairs were like 5 yards from him.

That was the first time I quit playing alliance (5 hours after I started). I've NEVER met someone that dumb on the horde side - I mean this is like 2 year old dumb, not 10 year old dumb. Second time I tried was similar only instead of sheer stupidity it was all the whining and idiocy on public chat channels that got to me.

Maybe the average maturity level of horde on my server is just different then other servers, I don't know, but I'm SERIOUSLY biased towards horde because of my shitty experiences trying to play alliance. And, all my RL friends have had the same issues and none of them ever stayed alliance for more than a week.

Also, in our battlegroup, horde pretty much wins all BGs.

I'd argue that such things are really more server specific as far as factions go. I played horde for years, and just got sick of it when they acted like being horde gave them a God given right to be ass%^&*#. Yeah, horde doesn't have a lot of the immatureity that you see on alliance, but at the same time I'm much happier dealing with children acting like children than adults who throw hissy fits or walk around spouting "pwned".

At the same time, there are some wonderful people who play alliance who are really cool and that I'm glad I've got the opportunity to meet.

Hachoo
01-07-2009, 12:14 PM
Not saying theres not, but good God wading through all the idiots to find the cool people would suck! Both times I tried alliance were on different servers than the server I play Horde on, so I have experiences of alliance from 3 different servers. And even though horde in our battlegroup wins BGs all the time now, you should have seen it before there were battlegroups and BGs were same server only. It was brutal. Alliance never got ANYTHING done. WSG was always 3 capped without alliance getting any, AB was always over with a 4 or 5 cap, even though AV went on for hours, horde always won.

Bigfish
01-07-2009, 12:33 PM
You always have to wade through idiots at the lower levels though, and they're readily apparent if you're looking for them.

Coltimar
01-07-2009, 01:18 PM
I started Horde and played for about two months that way. I leveled a couple of toons to the mid 20s-30s. What I experienced was that no one was helpful and everyone was a diq. I rolled a paladin as an alternative to quitting and it was night and day. People were helping me with quests, patiently helping me learn the game. I found an organized guild that taught me how to get to 60 and we ran UBRS everyday (and usually DM afterwards ^^). I have loads of RL friends who play Horde so I go back to try it every now and again but it's usually the same as when I started. I've tried about 5 different servers. My Horde frineds play sporaticallys (all married, working grown-up types) so I have just stuck with Alliance.

There are idiots on the Alliance side, sure, but those are the people I interact with. It's a moot point now since I play All by myself ('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_By_Myself') now.

Colt

Bovidae
01-07-2009, 04:12 PM
You always have to wade through idiots at the lower levels though, and they're readily apparent if you're looking for them.Next time you're in that pool of players 1-69, ask them how may 80's they have, or how many 70's they had pre wotlk. I still find it amazing how many people never make max level, or do so, and immediately reroll, because they don't understand the concept of endgame.

True players (the non-idiots) will not spend much time at all between 1-79

homerjunior
01-07-2009, 08:42 PM
Most idiots will claim they have many 80's and then flame you for even having 1 :P

Zub
01-07-2009, 09:20 PM
True players (the non-idiots) will not spend much time at all between 1-79
/lol at the "true player" statement /facepalm >.<
"True" players do whatever entertains them, be it raiding end game or rolling alts.

I personaly usualy have 1-2 main characters i raid with, and many many alts (which I leveled solo) to see the class and learn the mechanics of it.
Basically to attack the game from a different angle. How can one think they are playing the class they'll enjoy the most when they haven't played them at a high level? Somehow to do that you need to level your toons.
as an example, i know i personaly really enjoyed levelling my rogue and warrior, but can't stand playing them in raids.

I also have friends that have been playing mid level toons for bloody ages, and they dont do much with those toons at all, just wander around, kill a couple mobs here and there and enjoy the game for what it offers when you're not rushing through the levels. Does that make them idiots?

Gadzooks
01-08-2009, 12:38 PM
heres what you do. Ive done this and it works its not an exploit, its not a scam

Start up 5 new accounst with the RAF do the DIGITAL upgrade only to regular WoW. grind all the way to 60 Transfer all the characters off these accounts to your main ones. Call blizzard and ask for a refund on the 5 accounts that you upgraded. Blizzard offers a 30 day money back guarentee on all games-period. if you went and bought store copies of the game you would have to send in the box and manuals to get the refund. I started 5 boxing 2 days before they announced the RAF promotion and i called blizz, told them i wanted a refund they froze the 5 accounts, gave me credit back on my CC and i started brand new ones.


and for the record you CAN transfer characters off a regular(not trial) account onto an upgraded(xpac) account.LOL, someone just ran and tattled on you, in the Customer Service Forums over on WoW's site. You might want to keep an eye out though, and see if there's any official response on it.

Freaking tattletales are probably combing this site daily for stuff they can run over there and complain about.

And, wow, has the CSF forum gotten BAD, it's one post asking a question, and then 3 pages of the "regulars" arguing with the op. Yeah, real customer service there! Man, looks like Belfaire took all the fun with him when he left! (Or, maybe he left for good reasons...)

tushygalore
01-08-2009, 01:17 PM
yes the twentysometnings are much worse than the ice cream and bubble gums set. also whod want to play harde if they win pvp 80% of the time, pro gimps?

Hachoo
01-08-2009, 01:19 PM
?? Thats a dumb question.

Who would want to play on the team that loses 80% of the time?

Talamarr
01-08-2009, 02:41 PM
Ever realized you've made a terrible mistake...

Yes, and that's why I'm divorced.

Bigfish
01-08-2009, 04:54 PM
I'm still trying to figure out if upgrading to 10 computers was a good idea. I don't have the time I used to, and right now my 10 are still 74 for lack of play time or motivation to play. Sure, its cool to have 1 of each class, but after a while the single role classes get kind of boring and the multirole classes there isn't enough time to fiddle with and learn.

Now I'm just sitting here thinking how nice it would be to single box something that couldn't be reduced to spamming a single button or mousewheel.

Spades68
01-08-2009, 05:12 PM
Though I can't reply directly to Multiboxing but I will say that in my LIFE, I make atleast *ATLEAST!* 1 mistake that just haunts the hell out of me.

Like to the effect of "How could I of been so stupid, why the hell would I think that/do that?"

Yamio
01-09-2009, 01:42 AM
I played Alliance for about a year, then I started a troll shaman and played him for about 6 months. When I first started playing that shaman I would sometimes jump whenever I suddenly ran into another horde character. heh

I guess my biggest mistake was when I leveled a priest/mage duo to 60 and had them join my original mage from the days of when I first I started playing Wow. You know how you feel about the very first character you leveled up? That toon may not be your favorite anymore but it'll always have a special place in your heart. Here I had my first multibox team above 60 on Alliance side with my all time favorite toon in it, and a friend of mine talked me into rerolling horde, (cause he hated Alliance). So now I have a team of 70's on the horde side that I enjoy playing, and will probably play for a couple more years, but I sure miss my first multibox team.

Never say never but I'm pretty sure I won't be going back to my first multibox team. HORDE ALL THE WAY BABY! (Unless I'm asked to play Alliance, then it'll be "ALLIANCE RULEZ!")

Hachoo
01-09-2009, 02:57 AM
I played Alliance for about a year, then I started a troll shaman and played him for about 6 months. When I first started playing that shaman I would sometimes jump whenever I suddenly ran into another horde character. heh

I guess my biggest mistake was when I leveled a priest/mage duo to 60 and had them join my original mage from the days of when I first I started playing Wow. You know how you feel about the very first character you leveled up? That toon may not be your favorite anymore but it'll always have a special place in your heart. Here I had my first multibox team above 60 on Alliance side with my all time favorite toon in it, and a friend of mine talked me into rerolling horde, (cause he hated Alliance). So now I have a team of 70's on the horde side that I enjoy playing, and will probably play for a couple more years, but I sure miss my first multibox team.

Never say never but I'm pretty sure I won't be going back to my first multibox team. HORDE ALL THE WAY BABY! (Unless I'm asked to play Alliance, then it'll be "ALLIANCE RULEZ!")Or if you want to fit in with the majority of the alliance players (All present company excepted of course :) ): "ALLIENSE IS R DA BEST PPL KKZ?"

Bigfish
01-09-2009, 10:10 AM
Or if you want to fit in with the majority of the alliance players (All present company excepted of course ): "ALLIENSE IS R DA BEST PPL KKZ?"

Alliance used to be pretty cool, when we had fear ward.

Frosty
01-09-2009, 10:17 AM
I know it's server dependant..but on our server I've never been able to log into the Horde side without getting some sort of hateful comment.
Even when single boxing..

Armyofarty2
01-09-2009, 10:21 AM
Making 2 gnomes:p

Skuggomann
01-09-2009, 09:53 PM
... no, but my mom did. :(

thefunk
01-12-2009, 12:03 PM
You always have to wade through idiots at the lower levels though, and they're readily apparent if you're looking for them.Next time you're in that pool of players 1-69, ask them how may 80's they have, or how many 70's they had pre wotlk. I still find it amazing how many people never make max level, or do so, and immediately reroll, because they don't understand the concept of endgame.

True players (the non-idiots) will not spend much time at all between 1-79
This post is one of the reasons I struggle with WoW sometimes, I can't enjoy old world content without being branded an idiot...

Back on topic, just rerolled horde for first time, and I'm asking myself, why did it take so long?