Problems with Keyclone and Maximizer

[Cranius]

I'm experiencing the following problems using Keyclone and Maximizer and am looking to see if these issues are known issues. I'm running Windows Vista. Dual monitors. Trying to run 2 clients on the same machine, one on each monitor. I also experimented with 5 instances of WoW, 4 on one monitor, and 1 on the other.

Forgive me if these are FAQs. I've been reading stuff for a couple days now and haven't encountered these issues (could be just bad luck though).

1. Keyclone seems to get stuck on the 2nd monitor from time to time, and I can't figure out exactly what's causing this. Sometimes I'm able to easily release from being stuck by hitting the bypass key or by spamming the mouse click, but often times this technique doesn't work. Clicking the mouse causes it to jump back to the 1st monitor and I can't seem to release it consistently.

2. I'm unable to click on things on the 2nd monitor. Sometimes using the bypass key works, but often it does not. For example, if I get a popup window on monitor 2, I have a very difficult time dismissing it.

3. When trying to automate Maximizer using the cmd scripts suggested in the sticky post, only 1 of the windows actually goes full screen. The others do so for a moment, but then pop back into windowed mode, so I'm left with 1 window full screen and 4 others windowed and stacked on top of each other.

[Gallo]

I'm not sure what the issue is... but I do have a question for you... if your goal is to get 1 instance of WoW on each monitor, why even bother with maximizer?

[keyclone]

i am a bit confused. are you using keyclone's built in maximizer? if so, then you shouldn't have your wow's in full screen mode to start with. they must be in windowed mode.

also... not sure what you mean by getting stuck on the 2nd monitor.

since you are using vista, make sure you are running as administrator. this usually clears up a lot of weirdness.

[Cranius]

Sorry for the confusion.

I have a dual monitor system (single computer). I want wow1 to run on the 1st monitor. I want wow2 to run on the 2nd. I also want to do a 4 + 1 configuration (wow1 on the 1st, and wow2-5 on the 2nd) after I get this simpler one working. I prefer the windowed with the border removed (which I'm calling full screen since that's what it looks like).

Basically I'm trying to replicate the success in the sticky post at the top of this forum about running multiple instances on a single computer with dual monitors.

I'm using the maximizer that was recommended on the sticky post here. I couldn't figure out the built-in one in Keyclone. It didn't seem to support multi-mon for one thing. Secondly it indicated that apps must be started with keyclone to work, but I couldn't figure out how to do that.

By "getting stuck on the 2nd monitor" I mean that I'll try to click on something on the 2nd monitor, then try to return to the 1st monitor, and when I click on things after that, the mouse pointer will jump to a location I didn't want it to be. This has many side effects, such as when trying to steer with the mouse you can instantly find yourself facing the wrong direction. Or another example is being unable to click on something because every time you try, the mouse pointer jumps back to the other monitor.

Has anyone gotten the examples working in the sticky post on this forum to work on Vista? I'm running as an admin.

[Shogun]

I'm running in Vista with Maximizer, 1 main on main screen and 2 copies on the 2nd screen. The only time I experience the mouse moving is when I first start or close the WoW's that run with Maximiser...

I haven't used Max's options to set up the screens etc, I've edited the shortcut properties (from the desktop shortcut) there's a thread around that detailed how to do this, which I copied, I'll see if I can find it...

[Shogun]

Ok, these are the 2 threads I used as references to get mine working:

http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=417
http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=877

This post details the command line options thing mentioned above:



@zanthor
do you changed something in the maximizer .ini ?
I also use horizontal span and want to play both wow clients maximized.

Nope, command line options :).

"F:\Program Files\WoWFrame\Maximizer.exe" -D 2 -R 1280x1024 --margin 0,512,0,640
"F:\Program Files\WoWFrame\Maximizer.exe" -D 2 -R 1280x1024 --margin 512,0,0,640

Thats my TopLeft and BottomLeft .25 scale screens for the right hand monitor on my system. I am in Vista so horizontal span is not necessary, so you would want to adjust and you wouldn't need the -D 2 commands. For the resolution use the full resolution of your horizontal span and then adjust margins appropriately.

So something like:
"F:\Program Files\WoWFrame\Maximizer.exe" -R 2560x1024 --margin 0,512,1280,640
"F:\Program Files\WoWFrame\Maximizer.exe" -R 2560x1024 --margin 512,0,1280,640

That should place two 4:3 windows on the right monitor.

One catch, there is some form of relation to the available video modes of the video card and what wow will start in... Under Vista I haven't been able to make 1280x1024 show up as an option in horizontal span... of course with no performance benefit it's not necessary.

edit: to clarify "F:\Program Files\WoWFrame\Maximizer.exe" -D 2 -R 1280x1024 --margin 512,0,0,640"

It's editing the target of the Exe, which you can place as a shortcut on ur desktop as shown above

The "D 2" part is Display 2, "R 1280x1024" is the resolution of that screen, and then use margins, play around with this a bit and u should get the hang of it. If not post the resolution onf ur screens here, and the desired effect and I'll see if I can get something you can copy/paste together... Hope that helps :)

[hxc]

I multibox 3 instances of WoW using keyclone and maximizer on one PC, with two monitors without a problem, unless I do certain things :

- I have to start each instance of WoW individually using a shortcut to maximizer (not using a batch file) else each new window started up will demaximize the previous one, I spent a few hours trying to get them loading up alltogether, but this was the only solution I could find.

- I start keyclone after I have started all 3 instances of WoW, keyclone sometimes does strange things otherwise - causing the cursor to be movable but not able to click on anything, or for some reason i will only be able to click on things when broadcasting is on.

- when keyclone is running, changing certain in-game video settings will normally cause the same problems as above.

- If i try enabling/disabling broadcasting whilst another program (firefox/media player etc.) is running and is appearing in front of one or more of my WoW windows (even if it is not the foreground window, but a background window in front of my background WoW windows, if you know what I mean) I will not be able to, and keyclone will make the enabled then the disabled sound straight away, and vice versa. I have to ensure the three WoW windows are the three foremost windows.

as for the mouse getting stuck on one monitor, i've not had this problem personally but I hope the rest of my post can be of some help at least :wink:

[Cranius]

Thanks for all the replies.

I found that if I put a pause in between each maximizer.exe in my batch files, that they would stay maximized. Like this:

[code:1]start e:\wow\maximizer -D 1
pause
start e:\wow2\maximizer -D 2 --margin 0,512,0,640
pause
start e:\wow3\maximizer -D 2 --margin 512,0,0,640
pause
start e:\wow4\maximizer -D 2 --margin 0,512,640,0
pause
start e:\wow5\maximizer -D 2 --margin 512,0,640,0[/code:1]

I also found that if I don't pass through the mouse activity, that I don't get stuck on the 2nd monitor and I'm able to use the mouse on the 2nd monitor.

I still haven't figured out how to use the Maximizer built into keyclone. Is there documentation somewhere? There doesn't seem to be. Does it support multi-mon? How do I start WoW via Keyclone?

[Simulacra]

quote: I still haven't figured out how to use the Maximizer built into keyclone

keyclone maximiser
the keyclone maximiser functions aren't immediately obvious but they're pretty amazing (no mucking around with bat files :))- I had a similar issue to you and found these posts that sorted everything out for me:

this one has lots of step by step pics by grimfandang0
http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=1560

and this is the release info from keyclone
http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums2/viewtopic.php?p=10052#10052