Do 5-boxers look down on 3-boxers?

[Owltoid]

This really is a more light-hearted post than it sounds, but I'm curious if the 5+ boxers look down on us 2 or 3-boxers? I'm very jealous of Evilseed's 5 boomkins, but since I don't have the computing power (nor the desire to go buy the extra computer) I will have to be satisfied with my 3 boomkins. I keep on trying to convince myself that I'll be able to do 3v3 and hopefully get a decent rating, but the thought of running into someone with 15 treants as opposed to my 9 makes for a sad owl. Call it treant envy...

[pengwynman]

in some ways, i envy 3-boxers because i know they have less to manage, less collecting quest items, and less comp resources used to play, among other things :P

[The Bs]

You can always do 5v5, the burst is still nice. I have been plannin Shaman/shaman/shaman/rogue(I think)/healer

[Sajuuk]

I love you as long as you multibox.

It makes me feel not quite so lonely.

[Owltoid]

I love you as long as you multibox.

It makes me feel not quite so lonely.Heh, I feel the same way. I ran into the first other multiboxer I've seen on Dalaran and man was I excited. It's like insta-friend. He was running 4 hunters w/ gorillas and a shaman. I'm looking forward to doing some BG's with him once we reach 80! Hell, possibly 10 man if we can find a tank (which should be easy enough).

[mikekim]

you will find that from time to time 5 boxers will also run 2,3 or 4 box setups, either to help people out, or for fun.
I myself run the above combos all the time, so the answer to your question is no :D

[TheBigBB]

Well I sometimes feel sorry for people doing less than 5 without good guild or friend support, especially if the person is multiboxing at all times. Being stuck doing non-instance content would be frustrating. I suppose it's not as bad for PVP, though. I prefer less characters in organized PVP and wouldn't even bring more than one at a time in most cases.

[Talamarr]

I'm a 3 boxer and it's a perfect number for me.

One day, I'll run up two more JUST for instancing but no way would I want to level and quest 5 at a time. I swear to Elune I wanted to stab my eyes out by the time I finished Zul'drak from all the collection quests. All I kept thinking was how sorry I felt for all the 5 boxers out there.

I have a really good RL friend that 2 boxes so we've got a pretty good thing going, atm.

[algol]

Only in an "aww that's cute, a 3-boxer" sort of way. So, not really.

[Zal]

Well I sometimes feel sorry for people doing less than 5 without good guild or friend support, especially if the person is multiboxing at all times. Being stuck doing non-instance content would be frustrating. I suppose it's not as bad for PVP, though. I prefer less characters in organized PVP and wouldn't even bring more than one at a time in most cases.
This is me. ;(

[Ellay]

Were all equal :) I don't see any bias towards that since we all have the same goals.

[Bigfish]

3-boxing is fine. Ellay once blew the crap out of my 5 hunters with his 3 mages.

[Multibocks]

lol pwned.


I sometimes pause and wonder how much easier my wow life would be controlling just ONE character... especially in pvp. Then I remember how much it sucks LFG for an instance every day and your group falling apart after 1 wipe. Ya, then I remember how good I have it.

[Ticks]

I love you as long as you multibox.

It makes me feel not quite so lonely.Heh, I feel the same way. I ran into the first other multiboxer I've seen on Dalaran and man was I excited. It's like insta-friend. He was running 4 hunters w/ gorillas and a shaman. I'm looking forward to doing some BG's with him once we reach 80! Hell, possibly 10 man if we can find a tank (which should be easy enough).Hey there! That's my team :P

Every multiboxer I have run into has been pretty friendly and helpful. While you're the second multiboxer I ran into on Dalaran, I've run into other friendly boxers during BGs on Stormsrike. And I ran into them while soloing on my rogue or pally. One thing is for certain, every boxer I've run into uses this site so they know the challenge regardless of how many "boxes" they use.

One thing to remember though, some multiboxers may seem a bit gun shy at first when they're approached because they tend to catch a lot of grief from people who don't like us. See ya around!

[Powerwar]

Boxing is all about the fun.
I have 4 elemental shamies, a lapa tank and a resto shaman healer. So I can run isntances by myself or just replace any of my group toons and get into the isntance with some friends.

A friend has DPS class toon and needs a tank and healer to run some instance... no problem, I can git the gap. Same if they already have a tank or healer or both of them.

Remember that WoW is a multiplayer game and playing with others is part of the game itself. Lots of times I leave some of my toons resting in the inn while playing the others with some friends.

What you can do if you still have RAF and less than lvl 60 group is the following when being ganked by some lvl 45 or so at lvl 30 in desolace. Just bring your lvl 80 and instead of ganking him with it grant lvls till 60 to your ganked toon. You can grant levels when it's dead, so it's ok. Then res and gank him with your brand new lvl 60 toon.

You may get reported for that because most people don't know about RAF bonus and just think you are cheating. Anyways, if a GM comes close to you it will be one of the very rare occasions when you can test his DMG7 power on you. When I get a whisper by a GM I always reply with "Can you use your DMG7 spell on me?" before even saying hello.
I wish I could use such a thing once per month with my boxing team just for the laughs of it.

[Starbuck_Jones]

I admit ive scratched my head a few times. Dual boxing is ok. nothing like having a pet healer or dps to follow you around, but the 3 and 4 boxers I dont understand. too many toons so half the quests become un-fun (collection) but not enough to do instances and the like. Makes me wonder why do that many and not go all the way to 5.

[Yamio]

I dualed boxed, then triple boxed before I went all the way up to 5 characters, and there were a multitude of reasons why. The first was resources.

I had to buy a 2nd pc before I could move up to 3 toons, and while that machine is not all that great, it is fairly stout. Considering it was bought with the sole intention of multiboxing makes it truly a luxury purchase. Some folks can't afford to do that, nor can they afford to pay for anything above 3 toons a month. Maybe they can afford to but they don't feel like it.

Also, what if someone doesn't have the desire to play more toons than 3? I have a coworker that was the loudest about giving me shit when it came to multiboxing and now he plays two chars and swears he'll never go past that but who knows? I'm sure there are other folks who are of the same mindset about playing anything above 3 chars.

Playing anything above 2 toons is not for the faint of heart. It takes a lot of work and commitment, and with every new toon added into the mix there is even more work that needs to be done. I KNOW there are people out there who don't want to work that hard at putting all this stuff together. Lets face it, to really be successful at this it takes a bit of planning and configuring.

Whenever I see a multiboxer, whether they're playing 2 toons or all the way up to 5, it's almost like they're an instant friend. I salute, wave, dance, bow, applaud, kneel and anything else I can think of just to try to engage them. They're part of the multiboxing club. It doesn't matter to me if they occasionally do it, I'm truly happy to see em.

[OzPhoenix]

I'm with Starbuck. While I'd never look down on another multiboxer simply because they multiboxed, I do sometimes wonder why people 3 and 4 box. You're so close to 5 anyway, why not go the full 5?

For that matter, I also wonder about the "megaboxers", a la Sam and Prepared. I just can't see the point to it. But as they say, each to their own :D

[BIGBADPRIME]

I'm with Starbuck. While I'd never look down on another multiboxer simply because they multiboxed, I do sometimes wonder why people 3 and 4 box. You're so close to 5 anyway, why not go the full 5?

For that matter, I also wonder about the "megaboxers", a la Sam and Prepared. I just can't see the point to it. But as they say, each to their own :DAs a triple boxer I have wondered that and it has been crossing my mind also being awesome in arena crosses me mind also. There is also cost to think about it too, like do you want to be paying and playing everymonth

I working on shammy team and spreist team with a dk ( 10 from lvl 55 now) there is so many combos that could work.

I have allways wondered what 5x holy pallies would look like.

it is allways cool to be able to do instances but i think alot of us pay for the extra boxes for the edge in pvp (and being able to do pve don't hurt either) I have heard some therories that triple or quad could be better as you have more minds to work with. Plus the way the DK sounds it totally sounds like he has changed the holy dynamic of multiboxing.

[Physics101]

I admit ive scratched my head a few times. Dual boxing is ok. nothing like having a pet healer or dps to follow you around, but the 3 and 4 boxers I dont understand. too many toons so half the quests become un-fun (collection) but not enough to do instances and the like. Makes me wonder why do that many and not go all the way to 5.

Personally I mainly 4 box. Mostly because a good friend of mine normally runs a tank for me. When they aren't on I've been working on meshing a DK into my group. Also I've found for ten mans just being four dps is a lot easier than being a melee and four dps for the fights you really have to move about.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I think its unwise to box anything under a full group as then you don't get the full group exp bonus.

[algol]

I think its unwise to box anything under a full group as then you don't get the full group exp bonus.

You don't get the full group XP penalty, either. It really depends what you want to do.

And who knows, maybe you have more than one friend.

[SilverSlice]

i seem to remember you get group xp bonus while in a gorup with 3?

[algol]

i seem to remember you get group xp bonus while in a gorup with 3?

You get a bonus, but the XP gain is also divided between everyone.

[heffner]

Only if they were all gnomes. Then yes, I would have to look down at them.

[Gadzooks]

I admit ive scratched my head a few times. Dual boxing is ok. nothing like having a pet healer or dps to follow you around, but the 3 and 4 boxers I dont understand. too many toons so half the quests become un-fun (collection) but not enough to do instances and the like. Makes me wonder why do that many and not go all the way to 5.Well, as a 3-boxer, I can answer that:

The collection quests are'nt that bad for 3, and the extra kills help with the exp. You have to be a little patient with them, but it's not as bad as 5. The power of 3, which is even better with 4, is the extra dps, healing, buffs, abilities, ect... My Boomkin/fire Mage/demon Lock team can handle every quest in a zone, up to the final "boss" quest, which can be tricky, but for the most part do-able, or it's not hard to find 2 people who need it. I have portals, buffs, a pet tank, trees, heals, resses, the only thing I'm lacking (and might give up inscription for) is mining. (I see tons of cobalt laying there...)

I 3 box because I can't afford 5. I tried 3, to see if I could get the hang of it, then get 2 more, but because of the economy, and my hours being cut at work, I'm going to be running 3 for a while. I *could* afford two more, technically, but I'm not trying to increase my monthly bills right now.

So, in the meantime, it's 3-boxing, and it's a blast - and that's all that matters! :)

In fact, I was thinking seriously of starting a MB friendly guild on my server, or on a new one, I used to run a guild and I kinda miss it. I see some of the people I used to be in a large guild with online a lot more now, I'm thinking of hitting them up for an invite, and then I'll have 3 80's to choose from when running instances and Heroics!

[Tonuss]

I only look down on single-boxers.

(kidding!)

I dual-boxed in Everquest, I've dual-boxed in City of Heroes, I've dual/triple/five-boxed in WoW. To be honest, the idea of looking down on someone for boxing 2/3/4 characters instead of 5 never occurred to me. That's like a hardcore raider looking down on casual players. It's not an issue of good/bad or right/wrong.

[Owltoid]

In fact, I was thinking seriously of starting a MB friendly guild on my server, or on a new one, I used to run a guild and I kinda miss it. I see some of the people I used to be in a large guild with online a lot more now, I'm thinking of hitting them up for an invite, and then I'll have 3 80's to choose from when running instances and Heroics!I've flirted with the idea of finding a server/guild that would allow me to multibox my druids. I wouldn't care if they'd want them to heal/tank/DPS or just DPS, as long as they understood I'd be going for boomkin gear. However, unless my friend decide to quit the game, that likely won't happen. Level 75... lots more to go...

[Vyndree]

This really is a more light-hearted post than it sounds, but I'm curious if the 5+ boxers look down on us 2 or 3-boxers? I'm very jealous of Evilseed's 5 boomkins, but since I don't have the computing power (nor the desire to go buy the extra computer) I will have to be satisfied with my 3 boomkins. I keep on trying to convince myself that I'll be able to do 3v3 and hopefully get a decent rating, but the thought of running into someone with 15 treants as opposed to my 9 makes for a sad owl. Call it treant envy...

Do multiboxers look down on soloboxers?


If they do, they shouldn't. And if they do, it shouldn't bother you. Do whatever makes you happy. :)


I'm a 5-boxer, and I have to say that when I dual-boxed Druid/Mage it is a totally different experience. 2-boxing is much more manageable from a micromanagement standpoint. You can do some AMAZING things with 2 classes that just can't be done with 4 or 5 because it's just TOO much to think about. At a point, 5-boxing becomes more of an "automatic" thing where you simply have buttons set up for reactions to different stimuli -- one is a "aoe damage" button, one is a "single CC" button, one is a "caster debuffs" button and one is a "melee debuffs" button. You can't get the level of control where you can physically choose "ok, NOW I am going to cyclone, and at a totally different time on a totally different target I can polymorph and counterspell and frost nova and typhoon and root" or even "this is a caster, but I don't need to cast CoT on it because it does mostly instant casts, so I will leave that out of my caster debuff clicks".

Less waste, more efficiency, more control. You trade that for raw firepower as a 5-boxer, but there are times where efficiency is > firepower and that's where smaller numbers really works well. :)

[Hecro]

I don't see myself above anyone. I play multiboxing because its a very nice - and new for me - aspect of the game.
If you are just a regular player with 1 account or a multiboxer with 1 million accounts it doesn't matter - as long as you are doing what you think is the best way to enjoy the game :)

Just my 5 cents :)

[glo]

I only look down on 26 boxers. =P

[BIGBADPRIME]

funny thing is the idea to five box or even quad seems to sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tempting, trying to do quest the other way just kinda of sucks and the you need more than three people to do an instance

[Stealthy]

I don't look down on 4, 3 or 2 boxing at all - we're all sharing the same passion right?

I am jealous of 10 boxers though - /wave @ Mercurio :P

[Tizer]

Anything less than 4 then you disgust me.

Anyone who doesnt look down on the lowly 2/3 boxers should do!

Oh and single account players? Oh my ! /spit

xD

[Taliesin]

I look up to 1 boxers,
look down on 2 boxers,
look up to 3 boxers,
look down on 4 boxers,
and /salute 5 boxers on sight.

Anything over 5 simply has my pity. :D

Seriously though, there's certain times when I want to bring different levels of firepower. I also run with a large variety of groups. At least the first time I run raid content, I'd rather go with just 1 so that I can really focus on just learning the mechanics of fights without extra distraction. Later on, I can ramp up to bring multiples at a time.

Keep in mind that single boxers tend to be more experts in a given class than multiboxers are, so I definitely turn to them for advice.

In my guild, I run all combinations of of tank/dps/heals because there's only 4 of us, and only 3 of us being "regular" players. I originally started boxing because I was the "X" factor in the guild, willing to play more than one character at a time to fill the gaps we needed for guild runs. Started with mage, added shaman, then it felt natural to keep adding more until I could just solo content so that anything could be run anytime we wanted, regardless of who else was online.

I owe Aradar a bit of thanks for pointing me in the right direction (keyclone and these forums) to help me get started.

[Finnion]

I am a 3 boxer, it doesn't keep me out of heroics. I find that prayer of mending works better with the Paladin, Hunter/Pet, Preist combo than anything else. Extra people are bonus dps - or I can morph into 3 dps if I want to bring tank/ healer friends along.

I'd miss the social interaction in 5 box mode. If I clear an instance and only I was there to see it, did it really happen?

[Taliesin]

If I clear an instance and only I was there to see it, did it really happen?

Fine, hand all the shineys that drop over to me. :)

[blast3r]

I look down on all gnome 3 boxers. Because they are short.

[Gomotron]

lol pwned.


I sometimes pause and wonder how much easier my wow life would be controlling just ONE character... especially in pvp. Then I remember how much it sucks LFG for an instance every day and your group falling apart after 1 wipe. Ya, then I remember how good I have it.My MB group disbands after the second wipe X(

[Cesare]

I find myself being a 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 boxer at any given time. (even solo sometimes! *gasp*).
I find myself scaling down and bring guildies on runs because I know my limits. Some encounters just suck to multibox, but are very easy when you can micro-manage more.

Running with a separate tank OR healer is (meaning I'm controlling either the tank OR the healer) is infinitely easier then controlling both.
I couldn't agree more!

[Purecrafts]

I say that 3v3 could be more acceptable due to more control, and less people to worry about. To become a good 5v5 person, you would need to understand the basic layout of even controlling a 3v3 team. Someone just starting on a 5v5 team would be confused and would have no expierence in the PvP field. A simple 3v3 team would seem like a good start if your just now into multi-boxing.

[ericforsell]

I started out with three accounts so I've been there and hope you. Someday I hope you enjoy being a 5 boxer mainly for the instances.

[thinus]

I look down on all gnome 3 boxers. Because they are short.

They are -two- short.

[Ualaa]

Well gnomes are short; cannot deny that.

Whatever floats your boat is good with me.
I play to have fun, and generally don't mind what others are doing, unless it impacts on my having fun.

[thinus]

A three boxer is someone that tried five boxing but it cost them an arm and a leg.

[thinus]

I am a 3 boxer, it doesn't keep me out of heroics. I find that prayer of mending works better with the Paladin, Hunter/Pet, Preist combo than anything else. Extra people are bonus dps - or I can morph into 3 dps if I want to bring tank/ healer friends along.

I'd miss the social interaction in 5 box mode. If I clear an instance and only I was there to see it, did it really happen?

You socialize while boxing? I tried that once. I think several people complained about spamming and other times my guys would just stand there ... mute.

[SFbase]

It's not the size of your box that matters, but what you do with it.

[Dramoth]

Back when I was running around on Anachronos leveling up my druid (solo) I ran across 3 hunters running around, so I /w'd the person to say hi and tell them that I multi-boxed as well... only to find that they had really poor english skills and, I think that said that they came from Shanghai.

Haven't seen them since tbh :(

Since then I have met Powerwar with his shaman and even tried to do totc 25 with him and the rest of the guild he is in on Anachronos... but the shadow guys were all drunk and we couldnt drop the second boss :(

[Ogloo]

Yep it's all good as long as u box or are a x-boxer if ur comp can handle adding 1 would allow you to 4 box and arena easier and if ur not 80, u can 4 man Instance to level

[wrs]

Heh, I feel the same way. I ran into the first other multiboxer I've seen on Dalaran and man was I excited. It's like insta-friend. He was running 4 hunters w/ gorillas and a shaman. I'm looking forward to doing some BG's with him once we reach 80! Hell, possibly 10 man if we can find a tank (which should be easy enough).

I'm on Dalaran as well. I've seen a couple other multiboxers there, but they are rare for sure on the server. I ran 5x shaman until WotLK. Then I couldn't deal with all the collection quests and phasing zones. I've pruned down to two, however I am thinking about reactiviating a third. I don't think I'd want the overhead of five again, but I do miss soloing 5-player content.

[thinus]

5 boxers are like a kid with a new bike....and two training wheels.

[Wintershot]

Due to the fact that I run a small guild, I find myself being a 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 boxer at any given time. (even solo sometimes! *gasp*).

"Bring what ya got" is sorta my motto. I'll find a way to work ya in. There is a 2-boxer in my guild, and I've dropped my toons to have him join me a couple of times in the past.Solo?! Ewww!

[niknak]

lol pwned.

I sometimes pause and wonder how much easier my wow life would be controlling just ONE character... especially in pvp. Then I remember how much it sucks LFG for an instance every day and your group falling apart after 1 wipe. Ya, then I remember how good I have it.

This is one of the reasons I started multiboxing in the first place.... and the pwn-age of Aelli's videos really inspired me (hence my two mages!)

[kmg]

Don't know what those 5 boxers think, but I don't look down upon my 3 boxer team.

Most 5 boxers are doing same class x 4 + another class or simply same class x 5, I don't think it is harder to handle than any 2 boxing team. It involves not much extra skill to control this kind of 5 boxing team, it is about how deep your pocket is, so why envying them?

I am only running a core2dual system, I think 3 instances is the max setting the system can handle for reasonable performance. Also, squeezing 3 sets of macros (Shaman, druid and mage) and synchronizing them into a set of hotkey is hard enough for me. If I am going for 5 boxing, it will be Paladin+shaman+druid+magex2, but I need a new computer and hours for sychronzing the macros. It is less powerful than a 5 real person team because 1 person is always not as flexible as 5, but it is more fun than doing a same class boxing team.


This really is a more light-hearted post than it sounds, but I'm curious if the 5+ boxers look down on us 2 or 3-boxers? I'm very jealous of Evilseed's 5 boomkins, but since I don't have the computing power (nor the desire to go buy the extra computer) I will have to be satisfied with my 3 boomkins. I keep on trying to convince myself that I'll be able to do 3v3 and hopefully get a decent rating, but the thought of running into someone with 15 treants as opposed to my 9 makes for a sad owl. Call it treant envy...

[pinki104]

I run 5 shammys but I also do alot of stuff with my 3 pally boxer friend n it works good

[Seldum]

Love to all boxers. :)

I though about doing 3 accounts in the beginning, but though - Screw it, then I need to pick 2 other loonies to go into instances with me... I might as well go for 5 accounts to begin with. I went from 1 to 5 and never looked back.

5 toons is so much power its unbelievable. I once went back to playing my mage and I think I played him for 2 hours, then though "shit this sucks, it goes to slow".

Since then I have never played less than 5 at a time.