View Full Version : Shaman: Need to know/make sure, which buffing totems stack.

11-26-2007, 02:42 AM
Hello everyone.
I'd like a confirmation on certain totem that I was wondering about if they stacked or not, some I might ask that seems obvious but I'm asking anyway, just want to be 100% sure.

Grace of Air?
Strenght of Earth?
Wrath of Air?
Totem of Wrath?
Disease/Poison Cleansing?
Healing/Mana Stream?
Tremor works in casting sequence right?

Thank you for your help.

11-26-2007, 05:07 AM
Healing stream stacks x5.
Mana stream does not stack.
Tremor totems do work on a /castsequence X,,, type macro.

The rest I'll let the shammy regulars clarify, though I think that anything that counts as a stat buff won't stack. Healing stream counts as a HoT more or less, so it works.

11-26-2007, 07:05 AM
Totem of Wrath stacks :)

11-26-2007, 07:30 AM
Totem of Wrath stacks :)

now that has some uses

11-26-2007, 08:44 AM
Totem of Wrath stacks :)O.O Hax!

11-26-2007, 09:05 AM
It does? hahahaha !
Well then I'll spec that for a while, since I'm starting 4 brand new shamans, having instant crit CL isnt going to be that much useful in arena since well, I'll have no pvp gear at the beginning, so I'll start doing more heroics instances and BG on the side (as well as my weekly amount of Arena) Thanks for the tip.

So any other info on the others? Specially Wrath of Air too?

11-26-2007, 09:10 AM
Grace of Air? - nope
Stoneskin? - nope
Strenght of Earth? - nope
Windwall? - nope
Wrath of Air? - nope
Totem of Wrath? - yes
Disease/Poison Cleansing? - yes but needs to be spread out to be effective
Healing/Mana Stream? - yes
Tremor works in casting sequence right? - yes, spread out

Grounding Totem stacks, which is also important.

For PvP, I use a cast sequence for each Shaman that throws down the totems in a different order so they are spread out. Using Grounding Totem, Tremor Totem, Poison Cleansing Totem, Searing Totem.

For PvE, I only use 3 Totems for each which are Totem of Wrath, Mana / Healing Spring, Wrath of Air / Grace of Air / Stoneskin / Strength of Earth

11-27-2007, 02:34 AM
Great, thank you everyone for your help.

11-27-2007, 03:14 AM
15% Crit and 15% spell hit from totems.


11-27-2007, 05:15 PM
Tremor works in casting sequence right?

Tremor works on a pulse system. Every couple ticks it "pulses" to break fear. It pulses first when you initially lay it, then every few seconds after. Not worth laying them directly on top of each other as I believe the pulses happen at the same time, but not 100% sure on that so experimentation is probably in order.

So yes, it "stacks". The best bet is to spread the tremors around to provide the largest anti-fear and anti-sleep area possible to prevent getting feared out of tremor-radius.

What I have found that stacks:
Grounding (air)
Healing Stream (water)
All fire (offensive) totems (fire)
Stoneclaw (earth; why would you do this? O.o)
Earthbind (earth; pulse system; best if you spread this out - it's fun to lay earthbind + fire nova in a castsequence)
Poison cleanse (water; pulse system)
Disease cleanse (water; pulse system)
Totem of Wrath (fire; 41 pt ele talent - if you get this you can't get NS so choose carefully)
Windfury (air; pulse system, not worth stacking as pulse is faster than buff duration, so refreshes itself and WF weap can't be dispelled)

11-27-2007, 10:50 PM
I pull 8-12 mobs drop 5x stoneclaw, 5x Fire Nova, Chain lightning, Drop 5x magma... Then another CL and then lewt :P

11-28-2007, 03:11 PM
Stoneclaw (earth; why would you do this? O.o)

If you aggro a mob, but don't directly attack it, you can drop multiple stoneclaw totems to keep it occupied. Its a form of (weak) CC. I was able to keep a mob CC'd this way indefinitely with 3x totems.

The highest threat stoneclaw will attract all the mobs until it's dead. They will then go after a second stoneclaw.

Stoneclaw lasts a maximum of 15 seconds.

So if you're laying 5 stoneclaw, and evenly divide that by say... 5 mobs... You have 3 seconds to kill each mob before all your stoneclaws are gone. If the mobs kill faster than the stoneclaw's 15 second despawn time, then you have less time than that.

Stoneclaw max rank (untalented -- because seriously, that talent is WEAK) has 1315 health and a 50% stun rate. Trust me, it doesn't last long enough.

11-28-2007, 06:47 PM
Stoneclaw only stay you for 15 seconds I believe and the CD is 30sec. So to do that you would need to make a castsequence but sure it would be doable.

11-29-2007, 12:13 AM
Boom from http://www.twentytotems.com/ has a nice list of totems on the front page and whether they stack or not - almost makes me wanna reroll :)