Rested EXP and RAF

[PyrostasisTDK]

So Im a bit lost... I have had rested exp since the first night I logged my team in an inn, and have been unable to burn through it no matter how many mobs I kill or how long I play. I'm almost up to a full level.

I have checked my combat journal and Im not seeing any plus to exp through rested, but I do see RAF. So... do you not use rested while in RAF pre 60?

[thepackerfan]

yup, they dont stack

[PyrostasisTDK]

well guess it will be nice to hit 60 with a full level + of rested

[Ualaa]

While the Recruit a Friend promotion lasts, you spend unlimited (until it ends at 60th) RAF experience, which is 300% of normal.
This applies to both kills and quests.

Rested experience is 200% of normal, but only applies to kills not to quests (you get normal exp's for quests).

While you're in the RAF period, you accrue normal rested experience.
However when you reach 60th, you're unlikely to have maximum rested, unless you took a lot of time off in the upper 50's.

This is because rested accumulates at a fixed rate. It takes you a full week to go from no rested to the maximum which is 30 bubbles, or one and a half levels of rested.
Let's say you have no rested at all, and spend 1/3rd of a week in an inn or capital city. You gain 10 bubbles of rested experience, which is half a levels worth.
If your current level requires 100,000 experience to level up, you have about 50,000 experience worth of rested.
Using your exceptional RAF leveling speed, you gain 12 levels in a playing session. Now you're at the start of a level and need 200,000 experience to level up.
You still have 50,000 experience worth of rested, but this is no longer half a level, but instead 1/4 of a level.
You haven't lost any rested experience, if you express rested as a numerical value; as a percentage of a level, you have a smaller amount (fewer bubbles).

[Frosty]

You know what else keeps your Rest Bonus from burning up? KIDS!!!
I've had Rest Bonus since level 20. :S

[Boylston]

"You know what else keeps your Rest Bonus from burning up? KIDS!!!"

You are correct, sir!

[TheBigBB]

While the Recruit a Friend promotion lasts, you spend unlimited (until it ends at 60th) RAF experience, which is 300% of normal.
This applies to both kills and quests.

Rested experience is 200% of normal, but only applies to kills not to quests (you get normal exp's for quests).

While you're in the RAF period, you accrue normal rested experience.
However when you reach 60th, you're unlikely to have maximum rested, unless you took a lot of time off in the upper 50's.

This is because rested accumulates at a fixed rate. It takes you a full week to go from no rested to the maximum which is 30 bubbles, or one and a half levels of rested.
Let's say you have no rested at all, and spend 1/3rd of a week in an inn or capital city. You gain 10 bubbles of rested experience, which is half a levels worth.
If your current level requires 100,000 experience to level up, you have about 50,000 experience worth of rested.
Using your exceptional RAF leveling speed, you gain 12 levels in a playing session. Now you're at the start of a level and need 200,000 experience to level up.
You still have 50,000 experience worth of rested, but this is no longer half a level, but instead 1/4 of a level.
You haven't lost any rested experience, if you express rested as a numerical value; as a percentage of a level, you have a smaller amount (fewer bubbles).

This is completely false. If you have 10 bubbles of rested, you keep 10 bubbles of rested even if you level up.

[Spook]

While the Recruit a Friend promotion lasts, you spend unlimited (until it ends at 60th) RAF experience, which is 300% of normal.
This applies to both kills and quests.

Rested experience is 200% of normal, but only applies to kills not to quests (you get normal exp's for quests).

While you're in the RAF period, you accrue normal rested experience.
However when you reach 60th, you're unlikely to have maximum rested, unless you took a lot of time off in the upper 50's.

This is because rested accumulates at a fixed rate. It takes you a full week to go from no rested to the maximum which is 30 bubbles, or one and a half levels of rested.
Let's say you have no rested at all, and spend 1/3rd of a week in an inn or capital city. You gain 10 bubbles of rested experience, which is half a levels worth.
If your current level requires 100,000 experience to level up, you have about 50,000 experience worth of rested.
Using your exceptional RAF leveling speed, you gain 12 levels in a playing session. Now you're at the start of a level and need 200,000 experience to level up.
You still have 50,000 experience worth of rested, but this is no longer half a level, but instead 1/4 of a level.
You haven't lost any rested experience, if you express rested as a numerical value; as a percentage of a level, you have a smaller amount (fewer bubbles).

This is completely false. If you have 10 bubbles of rested, you keep 10 bubbles of rested even if you level up.Ualaa's explanation was exactly what I experienced while I was still using RAF. It's easy to check, create a RAF paired set of characters, let them set overnight, record the rested bonus amounts, using both the bubble and the points, and level up a couple of times, which will only take a few minutes, and then compare the bubbles vs points for rested. I no longer have any RAF left, and with forty level 60 + chacters, I'll not likely be doing that again soon :D

[Caspian]

You know what else keeps your Rest Bonus from burning up? KIDS!!!
I've had Rest Bonus since level 20. :SYeah, it's not really the kids though, its the homework. Stupid teachers and school. If they didn't have school and homework we could play more and burn through that rest.

[TheBigBB]

While the Recruit a Friend promotion lasts, you spend unlimited (until it ends at 60th) RAF experience, which is 300% of normal.
This applies to both kills and quests.

Rested experience is 200% of normal, but only applies to kills not to quests (you get normal exp's for quests).

While you're in the RAF period, you accrue normal rested experience.
However when you reach 60th, you're unlikely to have maximum rested, unless you took a lot of time off in the upper 50's.

This is because rested accumulates at a fixed rate. It takes you a full week to go from no rested to the maximum which is 30 bubbles, or one and a half levels of rested.
Let's say you have no rested at all, and spend 1/3rd of a week in an inn or capital city. You gain 10 bubbles of rested experience, which is half a levels worth.
If your current level requires 100,000 experience to level up, you have about 50,000 experience worth of rested.
Using your exceptional RAF leveling speed, you gain 12 levels in a playing session. Now you're at the start of a level and need 200,000 experience to level up.
You still have 50,000 experience worth of rested, but this is no longer half a level, but instead 1/4 of a level.
You haven't lost any rested experience, if you express rested as a numerical value; as a percentage of a level, you have a smaller amount (fewer bubbles).

This is completely false. If you have 10 bubbles of rested, you keep 10 bubbles of rested even if you level up.Ualaa's explanation was exactly what I experienced while I was still using RAF. It's easy to check, create a RAF paired set of characters, let them set overnight, record the rested bonus amounts, using both the bubble and the points, and level up a couple of times, which will only take a few minutes, and then compare the bubbles vs points for rested. I no longer have any RAF left, and with forty level 60 + chacters, I'll not likely be doing that again soon :D

I've never had any change at all in how many bubbles of rested I had left after leveling up.

[Ualaa]

Well if you have an experience bar addon, which shows exactly how much rested experience you have as a numerical value and percentage, its very noticeable.
You gain a maximum of 1.50 levels of rested and it takes a week for you to accrue this amount from nothing; therefore we accumulate rested as a percentage of the total needed to level.

As you increase in levels, the percentage of your rested experience in relation to the experience needed to level goes down. The addon shows you still have (example: 21,234 rested), but that is no longer (example: 12% of a level) if you gain a bunch of levels. You still have the 21k rested, but that's a much smaller amount of the new level then it was at the start of the playing session.

If you don't believe me, its pretty easy to test out.

[elsegundo]

quickly... rested exp is gained (inside inns/cities) at a rate of one bar every 8 hours. so to have max rested exp available to you, you'll need to park your character at an inn for 10 days.

[TheBigBB]

Well if you have an experience bar addon, which shows exactly how much rested experience you have as a numerical value and percentage, its very noticeable.
You gain a maximum of 1.50 levels of rested and it takes a week for you to accrue this amount from nothing; therefore we accumulate rested as a percentage of the total needed to level.

As you increase in levels, the percentage of your rested experience in relation to the experience needed to level goes down. The addon shows you still have (example: 21,234 rested), but that is no longer (example: 12% of a level) if you gain a bunch of levels. You still have the 21k rested, but that's a much smaller amount of the new level then it was at the start of the playing session.

If you don't believe me, its pretty easy to test out.

I suppose it's possible that I am sorely mistaken because I only observed my bars, but I never in 4 years of playing noticed a decline in my rest percentage from anything other than killing mobs. Maybe it doesn't help that you need almost the same amount per level from 70-80, and I guess the change is small from level to level in most cases to begin with. Apologies if I am wrong about this. The next character who reaches 70, I will keep a closer eye on their bars because if you're right I should lose a boatload of rest bars at that juncture due to how much more you need to hit 71.

[Ualaa]

Until getting RAF, I never noticed this either. Mainly because without RAF we level at a much slower pace.
With RAF and boosting, I've gone from 20th to 40th in a single playing session; it becomes a lot more noticeable.

[Frosty]

You know what else keeps your Rest Bonus from burning up? KIDS!!!
I've had Rest Bonus since level 20. :SYeah, it's not really the kids though, its the homework. Stupid teachers and school. If they didn't have school and homework we could play more and burn through that rest.
Wait a minute..are YOU doing your kids homework????

My kids are too young for homework..but I can't wait until they get some because that should free up my time! :P

[Burne]

Wait a minute..are YOU doing your kids homework????

My kids are too young for homework..but I can't wait until they get some because that should free up my time! :P
My wife and I have a 5th and 3rd grader and I find my wife doing the 5th graders homework alot, some of the stuff is pretty challenging even with the book she sometimes has to google stuff.. I guess my older one is supposed to be taking notes in class, but some of the stuff is just wow.. lol I dont remember half the things thats covered.

[Frosty]

lol I dont remember half the things thats covered.That's nothing, I don't even remember being there... ;)