RAF EXP, UnNerfed? sticky

[darkxer]

Hello all,
I've read many threads in here about RAF experience.
Also that everyone is Boosting via an unlinked account.

Well, i have 5 accounts linked starting Nov 10th 2008 a> b> c> d> e>
And the Booster level 58DK is on the A> account.

I still get RAF Experience on b> c> d> e>


Whats the official word on this?
Thanks.

P.S.
I love mboxing,
it's nice being able to solo instances.
PVE content now holds interest to me where previously the waiting and grouping made it undesirable.
May mboxing last 4ever.

[darkxer]

Update:

I've noticed a few more posts explaining the RAF xp bonus.
What appears to have been nerfed in RAF xp bonus is the bonus between a character of much lower or higher level.

Account A = 10 levels higher than Account B, neither account will receive RAF bonus due to the new level restrictions?
Previously, a level 70 boosting a level 10, both would receive RAF bonus?
Is this correct?

[Vyndree]

Whats the official word on this?

"Soon".

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765628748&postId=87647709104&sid=1#0

Let's say we have Account A with a level 70 character, Account B with a level 1 character and Account C with another level 1 character, all three characters are grouped. Account B and Account C are linked, will they receive triple experience?

A: Bonus experience should only be granted if the experience is not trivial to anyone in the group. Our Quality Assurance Team is looking into reports that some of these restrictions are not consistent and hope to resolve the issue soon.

[darkxer]

Ah ha!

I'm glad I asked,
So I should be xfering my Booster to a NON linked account before blizzard fixes this bug.

Thanks for the official link and highlighted text.
Booster in same group, giving RAF is not working as intended and will be patched soon.

[Vyndree]

No probs.

They de-stickied that FAQ so it's not really that visible anymore... :/

[algol]

"Bonus experience should only be granted if the experience is not trivial to anyone in the group."

Well that was phrased badly. What are they going for, do you think - "should only be granted / everyone in the group" or "should be granted / anyone in the group"? Because the sentence as phrased is crap.

[Vyndree]

"Bonus experience should only be granted if the experience is not trivial to anyone in the group."

Well that was phrased badly. What are they going for, do you think - "should only be granted / everyone in the group" or "should be granted / anyone in the group"? Because the sentence as phrased is crap.

"Bonus experience should only be granted if the experience is not trivial to anyone in the group."

If the experience is not trivial to ANYONE in the group, bonus experience should be granted TO THOSE WHO QUALIFY. (i.e. those who are otherwise RAF linked and eligible)

This means, if you're grouped with someone of significantly higher level than the encounter -- EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT RAF'ed TO YOU -- you should not get your RAF bonus XP.

[darkxer]

Oh wow, that sucks hardcore.

[elsegundo]

i totally understood the sentence.

but i havent seen it happen as stated. my friend just ran me through ZF last night... no experience for her (trivial), 3x exp for my two chars.

[Vyndree]

but i havent seen it happen as stated. my friend just ran me through ZF last night... no experience for her (trivial), 3x exp for my two chars.

That's why it's stated as "soon" for a fix.

And anyone who's familiar with Blizz's "soon" isn't surprised that they STILL haven't fixed it yet.

[Caspian]

My guess is this is a very low priority for them at the moment, and it should be. #1 it makes customers happy, #2 it creates more high level characters faster - so more long term accounts. #3 there are many other issues that are much bigger

[algol]

The problem is that as phrased it says: if it is non-trivial to anyone, then everyone in the group should get bonus exp. Which I don't think is what they meant.

Seeing the effed up grammar may be easier if you look at the condition first, then the result. Bad English FTL.

[Vyndree]

"Bonus experience should only be granted if the experience is not trivial to anyone in the group"

More like a sentence fragment

"If the experience is not trivial to anyone in the group, bonus experience should only be granted."

Only be granted...? To whom? To what?

The "Only" is what throws it off from being what you described,
"If the experience is not trivial to anyone in the group, bonus experience should be granted."
Which would then imply that everyone (even if they're not RAF'ed) should get bonus experience. The "only" just means someone fragmented a sentence and didn't see anything wrong with it given the context that it's in a RAF FAQ.

[algol]

Yeah, that's what I said the first time. They halfway said both because they worded it carelessly.

[Ualaa]

As far as I know, a high level can group with a low level and kill things very quickly.
This results in a lot more kills per hour, but with greatly reduced experience per kill.

With or without RAF, this is how the game works.

With RAF, you level 3x faster (from quests & kills, but not exploration) with or without a higher level in your party.
As in, without a booster the pace is 3x faster then a normal non-RAF group that also does not have a booster.
Or with a booster the pace is also 3x faster then a normal non-RAF group that includes the same booster.

So as long as a low level can gain any amount of experience while grouped with a much higher level toon, boosting will work to some degree.
Even if this mechanic were changed so the low level toon gained no experience at all from kills, boosting would work by completing quests in a fraction of the normal time, instead of doing it in instances.

[elsegundo]

The more groups i RAF to 60 means the more groups i'll level to 80. this means more play time, longer subs and more income for bliz.

[Korruptor]

Bump

Has anyone come across any info as to how soon this might be "fixed"?

[Stormweasel]

To the best of my knowledge this still hasn't been "fixed" so keep cracking on while you can :)

[Korruptor]

I sure will :)

I was just hunting for info on an impending change so if it's coming soon I don't invest any further in this method.

[Bigfish]

Huh, didn't even know this nerf was incoming. Of course, no idea why they're doing it. At this point, they may as well start handing out level 55s, since low level content has become so redundant.

[Korruptor]

No argument there!

Like many of you, I've leveled soooo many quint-boxed char's to 60+ I can't stand to do it anymore. Using a Hunter to PL Quest for the group is so much better.

[species6729]

try to get a boost a mage to join my priest(60), 3 lock (60)group

I am out of RAF exp :pinch:

Starting mage in the starting area, he is not getting exp for killing mop, is this a bug, or has bizzard nerf boosting

[Korruptor]

Please describe your account setup.

Are you running with just 2 accounts?

[Haruko]

boosting still works, boosting a warlock and mage right now in sfk and it works