My pvp ownage

[Eldi]

ok i made this video for advice on y im sucking so much id like some advice im getting discouraged.
http://media.putfile.com/AB-lost

[Maxion]

First thing i can tell you, you will save a lot of trouble by signing up as a group, that way you wont have to use the preform enabler, and will most often be the leader so you can put your characters in the same group.
Secondly, please see if you can get the framerate higher, as it is now it was too painful to watch.

[Seldum]

Watched half the movie, and got tired of the FPS. Do some more pwnage and let us see a bit better FPS.

:)

[Eldi]

ok i tryed to get a higher frame rate and the quatily was so bad u couldnt see any thing. whats a good program to use and minimum pc reguiremens. or should i recoured it on my slave pc its brandnew

[Littleburst]

Just record on the PC with the best hardware.

Get locks instead of mages :P SL specced they can take a lot more damage then the mages. If you wanna stick to mages:

I asume your priest is deep Discipline to migate a lot of the incoming damage? If not, spec him disc. Use Power word shield on the slave that is getting attacked, mana shield on mages. Don't be affraid to split the mages / priest up. Blink with mages if needed, make sure you got 4 keys to move only the mages, so you can turn them after the blink. And polymorph. Polymorph. Polymorph.

Mages are very squishy and rely on talents and spells to avoid getting hit by melee. Your mages just stand still, try to cast a fireball and get spanked. First thing you want to do is polymorph anything that attacks you if it's just one. Whne you're sure you can cast a long spell, start with a fireball, if you think it might be better to unload some fast damage, just spam Scorch. You're better off with landing a few small attacks then failing to land one big attack. Don't forget that you got fear aswell on your priest, don't be affraid to use it.

Because you hardly move with your mages you can't kite enemies like a normal single player would. So you have to rely on pure nuke mainly. Try to nuke down warriors/retri pallies before they can really harm you. Expect the paladin to Bubble and start casting a Mass dispel when your sure the paladin will die if he won't bubble. This will take some work to time it, but should help. You can just burst down warriors, nuke through their bladestorm and if you have 3/4 mages use Prayer of healing instead of holy nova, start healing when you know damage will come. Predicting what is going to come is important with the current 'pvp' gear, since everyone still lack resilience your mages are dead if you start casting a heal after they got damage. It's no big deal if a heal overheals 100%, if you didn't cast it and a char died you got a bigger problem.

Besides all this: Just play. I have no idea if you're an experienced player and familar with PVP. If you're not, then it's normal you foock up, because you have to get used to it and know what you have to do before the combat actually starts. If you have to think about every spell you cast you're to slow and you die.

I went through exactly the same, i always started chain heals to late etc. But once you get the hang of it, it should get a lot better. When S5 hits and you can get Resilience it should get a lot easier to keep the mages up aswell.

If you manage to upload a vid on which we can actually see what happens i'll try to be a bit more specific :) I hope it helps, so far.

[Eldi]

Thanks man that helped alot i used to play a feral druid so im new to the casting chars so its a new learning xperiance. but im working on that new vidio its uploading atm but just know this new one is my worst pvp ever!!! i feel bad for even posting it lol.

[Eldi]

heres the new vid

http://media.putfile.com/my-worst-bg-ever

[Coltimar]

I'm 5 boxing on 1 machine and I can't trick fraps into working. I upchucks and crashes everything when I start recording. Granted it's a version I bought 2 years ago and I can't use that license with a new version :/ What are you recording with?

[blast3r]

If someone comes into melee range you should ice block them or whatever it is called and get away from them then focus fire on them. You can setup a castsequence for that. Also have a key mapping/button that can let you step backwards afterwards. that way you don't lose time trying to run with /follow and reposition. Just my thoughts.

[Eldi]

i use fraps now but i only run one wow on this machine that i record with.

[Littleburst]

You got frost nova and Sheep on a castsequence?

/castsequence reset=30 frost nova,,,
/castsequence reset=30 ,frost nova,,
/castsequence reset=30 ,,frost nova,
/castsequence reset=30 ,,,frost nova

That should help take care of the melee, if you're in melee range frost nova + blink/move away.

The AoE spam button you use, i would almost suggest that you delete it so you get rid of using it. :P

It's just far from as effective as other spells, blast wave/fire breath + polymorph on any chars besides the one your dpsing should help a lot with lowering the damage. CC also buys you time, so you can think about what you're doing or want to do. Check around to see if there are other alliance in coming etc..
Stick to flash heals/Prayer of healing and spam Prayer of Mending when you can. That AoE spam doesn't do that much damage and it really doesn't heal enough. Just use normal casts, you'll get lossed and you'll learn how to deal with it. Mostly CCing them makes things like that a lot easier.

If you're able to upload it on filefront so it downloadable there or streamable that might be usefull. Since i can't see what spell you cast, can only guess by checking the castbars or see the AoE spam :P

What are the specs of your mages/priest? Speccing the mages frost with some sick Shatter combo's can be brutal. It's a lot less cooldown dependant then fire/arcane. Which is something you might or might not like. Mostly personal preference :)
I really suggest you spec the priest deep discipline. REALLY. Pain Supression will save lifes a lot.

edit: just checked your other post, nvm the priest's spec.

[Bettysue]

get fire enough for blastwave then go arcane pick up POM for some serious bust with fireball or pyroblast depending on how you spec. Frostnova anything close and single target scorch / Fireblast rotations till they come in then blastwave frostnova should kill most people faster than AE spam. AE has been nerfed nearly into uselessness over the last year or so so try to get away from it. Arcane barrage is a nice talent as well so try to pick that up huge burst from 4 mages and it's instant so scorch barrage blast and you shouldnt need much healing :D

Anywho good luck

[Eldi]

Well im learning lol im going to respect at 80 to arcane and then i dont know what else but i never pvped a mage nor preist i played a druid from day one and feral at that i was on the kos list of manny ppl. then the 3.0.x patch messed all my pvping up so i dumbed the druid to box now knowing that shamans were the pvp leetness i followed the zins i also play twink rogues but ya there different alone. so now im stuck with mages and preist because i hate lvling. i figured that at 80 the respec and the fact that ill be fighting lvl 80s and not as of now im 70 fighting 79s. i know arcane explosion sucks now it hits for 1 k if im lucky. i already respeced the priest disc and i dont use frost nova blink blastwave or anything do to i just bound them to new keys and its like i cant find them and freeze up... but i have a feeling that ill be better now that im starting to use all of that in pve while i quest to 80. but even tho im not that great in pvp i still top the dm and honor kills every time. i just need to work on my panicing. took me awhile on my druid and now itll take longer.,




u guys are so helpfull i rilly appreciate it i was about ready to give up 2 days ago. thanks also if what i time doesnt make sence im disleksick and cant spell and lose my train of though just try to read threw it.

[pengwynman]

on your second video, i noticed your main got sapped and you just kind of sat there for a second. you should be mashing your aoe button the instant you get sapped to at least pull the rogue out of stealth.
also, it appears that you don't really have any sort of leader swapping set up, which is pretty much a MUST for pvp, because the majority of the time they're going to try to kill your main first.

[Eldi]

i do have a leader set up but im just trying to get used to it i forget what buton is what char... and i dont have xkeys yet. but im trying to fix that all but i messed up my movement keys and its hurting me :(

[Mokoi]

main a mage, and keep your priest hidden in the group, STOP USING THAT AOE.. my god lol. if you ahve a rogue on you, bnlink away, frostnova, but NEVER stand there and let him stab you. you are not a shaman, you do not have a shield and you do not wear mail.

you shouldn't be using fireball unless you are 41y away from someone, it is easily avoided by every class up close and you should be focusing on spreading your guys out and spamming scorch and fireblast. I dont box mages, but I used to play one, I almost never used fireball unless the target was sheeped (which you should use) or really far away.

my 2c