View Full Version : New ele Shammy Changes 3.1
Multibocks
11-25-2008, 11:35 PM
We are making some upcoming changes to the Elemental shaman tree. Our goal was to streamline a few of the utility-based talents while giving shamans a little more damage scaling in later tiers of gear.
Unrelenting Storm – reduced from 5 points to 3 points. Bonus is 4/8/12% of your Intellect returned as mana.
Elemental Warding – now reduces all damage (not just Nature, Fire and Frost) taken by 2/4/6%
Elemental Shields – this talent has been removed, since its effects were combined with Elemental Warding.
Storm, Earth and Fire – reduced from 5 points to 3 points, but keeps around the same net benefit. In addition to current effects, also increases Wind Shock range. The damage bonus to Flame Shock has increased to 60% at 3 ranks. Storm, Earth and Fire has been moved up the tree as well.
Shamanism – this is a new 5 point talent in the old Storm, Earth and Fire position. Your Lightning Bolt and Lava Burst gain an additional percentage of your bonus damage. We have not finalized the numbers, but it will probably be something like 10% for Lightning Bolt and 20% for Lava Burst at max ranks.
These changes will be available in the next minor content patch, and are in addition to the AE changes mentioned previously.
REJOICE!!!
Ellay
11-25-2008, 11:37 PM
HOLLAAAAAAAAAAAA
Ellay
11-25-2008, 11:38 PM
On a more serious note, this is great news :)
algol
11-25-2008, 11:48 PM
Nice.
But it looks like we lose a talent point. Four points freed up, another five to spend. The devs giveth, and the devs taketh away with the other hand. 8|
I don't entirely follow why the fire totem changes equal major AoE changes...anyone want to explain that one?
A Single Magma Totem does alot more pew pew just under par with mage and warlock aoe i believe. So for us boxers we can just drop magma totems now for trash and afk.
..Hopefully
ARGGG!!! I was just gonna make a post about this. Beat me to it ><
CAN'T WAIT FOR THE MORE OP TO BEGIN!!!! :thumbsup:
Tasty
11-26-2008, 12:20 AM
A Single Magma Totem does alot more pew pew just under par with mage and warlock aoe i believe. So for us boxers we can just drop magma totems now for trash and afk.
..Hopefully
<Generic Mage Redundancy QQ>
:)
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Grats shaman :D
Ellay
11-26-2008, 12:20 AM
They said the Magma totem will be ticking for about 600 damage every 2 seconds and it starts out aggroless so it doesn't get whacked. While this is down x4 or however many you have you can do other things, while other AoE classes are very limited in what they can do. This is a large boon to us.
Chaosomega
11-26-2008, 12:39 AM
Dam it i was about to make a post about this too!
Beat me too it, not fair.
So maybe at 80 currently 1500 spell power is about 300 dmg which obviously will scale more with gear, but hey thats about 800 more dmg on crits,
for multiboxers that 800x5 = 4000 more dmg.
Hey from 40k to 44k crit lava burst, notbad... still overkill but not bad...
Chaosomega
11-26-2008, 12:40 AM
btw Ellay and Zal, ishidia is better then ichi or ryukia (if thats how you spell her name)
algol
11-26-2008, 12:46 AM
They said the Magma totem will be ticking for about 600 damage every 2 seconds and it starts out aggroless so it doesn't get whacked. While this is down x4 or however many you have you can do other things, while other AoE classes are very limited in what they can do. This is a large boon to us.
Hooooly...the "no threat" part means mobs won't aggro onto Nova & Magma? I thought it just meant they wouldn't count towards the caster's threat. That would be rather useful, especially if the magma DPS buff is substantial.
Sam DeathWalker
11-26-2008, 12:47 AM
Now we talking. Magma Totem X 25, no more quests 4 me! I'm there dude!
Comon Patch!
Ya the "other things" be casting heals ...
I just hopes a Prot Pally can pull 30 or 40 mobs ....
Stealthy
11-26-2008, 12:53 AM
This is great news!
BTW, you get no exp if your totem kills a mob without you damaging it - just like hunter pets. So no AFK for you!!! :P
Cheers,
S.
This is great news!
BTW, you get no exp if your totem kills a mob without you damaging it - just like hunter pets. So no AFK for you!!! :P
Cheers,
S.
Ok fine......ill drop magma and then cast chain heal on everyone :)
Sam DeathWalker
11-26-2008, 01:05 AM
"BTW, you get no exp if your totem kills a mob without you damaging it - just like hunter pets. So no AFK for you!!! "
Humm seems like some possible boosting tricks could come into play. Still thunderstorm at the higher levels will do damage.
algol
11-26-2008, 01:15 AM
Humm seems like some possible boosting tricks could come into play. Still thunderstorm at the higher levels will do damage.
Or at least tag mobs before you kill 'em with magma.
Fizzler
11-26-2008, 01:54 AM
Now we talking. Magma Totem X 25, no more quests 4 me! I'm there dude!
Comon Patch!
Ya the "other things" be casting heals ...
I just hopes a Prot Pally can pull 30 or 40 mobs ....
The only place I have successfully pulled over 20 mobs without them peeling back off is in an instance. Leveling 25 of anything at the same time I would think would take longer and lead to poppin' more antacid than its worth.
I cant wait until this comes out I have never much liked the searing totems.
btw Ellay and Zal, ishidia is better then ichi or ryukia (if thats how you spell her name)
NEVER!!!, ichigo's a visard... and has bankai ishidia isn't better, or stronger, or faster... maybe smarter though
lol random sidetrack
algol
11-26-2008, 03:05 AM
NEVER!!!, ichigo's a visard... and has bankai ishidia isn't better, or stronger, or faster... maybe smarter though
lol random sidetrackUm, okay.
Ughmahedhurtz
11-26-2008, 05:07 AM
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12891294995&sid=1
You shammy types should love these changes.
On the other hand, lots more AE means lots more AE being used against stacked multiboxers. :P
bodefeld
11-26-2008, 05:18 AM
G'morning shamans! What a nice post to wake up to.
(smiles and gets some coffee)
Chaosomega
11-26-2008, 05:34 AM
NEVER!!!, ichigo's a visard... and has bankai ishidia isn't better, or stronger, or faster... maybe smarter though
lol random sidetrackUm, okay.BUT... ishida shoots stuff out of his hands, like... goku, and goku can shoot more stuff... LIKE our shamans! Oh, see i like ishida more because hes like our shamans, therefore since you like ichi more, you dont like shamans as much do you? O.o
Traitor! haha jk, ur shamans prob. own me cuz im only 65...
Iceorbz
11-26-2008, 05:43 AM
Really no change to us from what I can read, other then our totems wont get smacked soon as they are laid down.
We already get AoE'ed. I believe the blizzard guy is refering to like, ive done Nexus and UK with all melee lol. No CC what-so-ever, and that has passed onto alot of instances, from what my guildies tell me you can do all non heroics without a single CC.
Saevio
11-26-2008, 05:57 AM
Nice changes, though I'll probably still stay away from Elemental Warding, 3 points better spent elsewhere.
PS. Anime is silly.
Chaosomega
11-26-2008, 06:45 AM
ur silly :_(
Creazil
11-26-2008, 07:19 AM
I've done alot of heroics now .. 4 shamans, and I haven't used Hex once .. (mostly because I haven't keybinded it). It's not needed at all, granted your tank is alright geared.
Meathead
11-26-2008, 09:32 AM
Well to keep you guys upto date here are the new ele changes
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/13115791748-upcoming-elemental-shaman-changes.html
Hope you like them cause i do :D
blbjtb
11-26-2008, 09:44 AM
Oh my GOD i think i just came a little...Yup i did crap and before work as well.
Xinxo
11-26-2008, 09:47 AM
Already posted here:
OMFG FINALLY!!!!! ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=16858&')
Schwarz
11-26-2008, 10:25 AM
Nice changes, though I'll probably still stay away from Elemental Warding, 3 points better spent elsewhere.For people with tanks I agree. But this is a very nice ability if you are running 5 shaman. Being able to take more damage is always a good thing. The thing that I will be staying away from is unrelenting storm. There are few times that I am starved for mana (unless I am spamming healing) so right now this talent does no good for me. I think I had to take 1 point in it to advance to the next tier in my current spec.
David
11-26-2008, 10:43 AM
Great news indeed. Finially elemental shamans recieve some good lovin. Now that new aoe spell please!
Saevio
11-26-2008, 12:01 PM
For people with tanks I agree. But this is a very nice ability if you are running 5 shaman.
Very true!
Catamer
11-26-2008, 12:15 PM
we had to squeal like stuck pigs to get these fixes.
Multibocks
11-26-2008, 12:40 PM
Nice changes, though I'll probably still stay away from Elemental Warding, 3 points better spent elsewhere.For people with tanks I agree. But this is a very nice ability if you are running 5 shaman. Being able to take more damage is always a good thing. The thing that I will be staying away from is unrelenting storm. There are few times that I am starved for mana (unless I am spamming healing) so right now this talent does no good for me. I think I had to take 1 point in it to advance to the next tier in my current spec.
I run oom all the time in PvP and this is with unrelenting storm, I'm real hesitant to drop it. Also my boss fights where they have 300k+ health I have to remind myself to TS or they run oom there too.
Lyonheart
11-26-2008, 01:42 PM
Nice changes, though I'll probably still stay away from Elemental Warding, 3 points better spent elsewhere.For people with tanks I agree. But this is a very nice ability if you are running 5 shaman. Being able to take more damage is always a good thing. The thing that I will be staying away from is unrelenting storm. There are few times that I am starved for mana (unless I am spamming healing) so right now this talent does no good for me. I think I had to take 1 point in it to advance to the next tier in my current spec.
I run oom all the time in PvP and this is with unrelenting storm, I'm real hesitant to drop it. Also my boss fights where they have 300k+ health I have to remind myself to TS or they run oom there too.
You keep all mana totems down? i never have mana issues unless I do something stupid and have to chain heal too many times. Even then I have not had one boss fight where i ran out of mana. I refresh water shield, keep mana totems down. I've cleared UK, Nex, and both spider zones so far.
And on topic>> WOOT!!!! I use nova/magma all the time when clearing trash. I am soooo happy about this!! 8)
TheBigBB
11-26-2008, 01:50 PM
The title of this thread amuses me. It took all of a couple weeks for them to fine tune the shaman. You guys should have never worried. :thumbsup:
Bollwerk
11-26-2008, 01:55 PM
Anyone have a link to this on the Blizzard forums? I can't find it. I want to believe it, but I take things with a grain of salt until I see "proof". =)
Schwarz
11-26-2008, 01:58 PM
I would agree that in pvp it is easy to run out of mana. I find myself spamming chain lightning every time I have the chance. This will eat away at your mana pool pretty quickly.
Only times I ran into mana problems in PVE was when I first dinged 70 and did kara. Since then I haven't had a problem. I was messing around with the training dummies last night too see how much dps adding a mage would bring. I was timing how long it took for me to go from full mana to oom just casting lightning bolts. It took close to 2 mins to empty my mana pool. Heroic boss fights were usually 15-30 seconds for me.
Unrelenting storm isn't a bad talent. I just wouldn't take this over a talent that will increase your overall dps.
mmcookies
11-26-2008, 02:33 PM
"hooray!"
- cirno
emesis
11-26-2008, 02:39 PM
Anyone have a link to this on the Blizzard forums? I can't find it. I want to believe it, but I take things with a grain of salt until I see "proof". =)
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13115791748&sid=1
Svpernova09
11-26-2008, 02:41 PM
All these posts have been merged, please try to keep it in one topic so we don't have a flood of topics all about the same thing :_D
Meathead
11-26-2008, 02:45 PM
"ooooooo" Lol was going to say ah well cool :D
Ellette
11-26-2008, 03:41 PM
Yes!!! I am so thrilled about this :D :D This is just the thing I need to continue to motivate me to clean up around the house before I play WoW lol
*sings to herself as she grabs the vacuum and scares her kittens* Can't wait to get back on WoW so my girlies can level! :D
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