The multi-boxing blues.

[Boseefus]

Hello everyone.
If you take the time to check this thread out, I’m looking for some peer support in my time of need (lol).
I rolled my shaman team after RAF came out. I already had a Paladin for tanking, so four more shamans was a no brainer. My main goal with this was for PvP, I guess you could say I was an Ellay wannabe =).

I hit 70 just a few weeks before WotLK came out, I rolled some BGs to get my weapon and shield, then finished all my outlands quests to get my epic flying mounts. I purchased my mounts the day before WotLK rolled out.

But now, I find myself dragging threw content. I feel so burnt out on leveling. I rolled to 71 and 72 fairly quickly, but then just hit a wall. I hate that my guys are not 80 yet, I want to be at the front of the PvP curve, but I hate to play them just to level. It feels more like a Job than a game. So, now I sit at 74 and find myself single boxing some alts for fun.

Anyone else find themselves in this situation? What do you do to work it out?

Oh, and so you know, I quest and run instances to try and mix things up.

[Ken]

My group is at 73 at the moment and I find the levelling extremely boring and repetitive. It's quite off-putting. I'm not stopping just yet, it's just that I'm not having the fun that I used to have like doing raids or battlegrounds or world PvP.

[Dorffo]

Only a few more levels to go until you cap out and its back to PvP / raiding etc!

[genocyde]

I rolled my newest team the week before Wrath release. I hit 1-70 in less than 4 days real life. I am now 76 and found a wall due to my hatred of collecting drop quests. I ran out of questing in Zul'drak at 75.2 and cannot move on til 76. I am not stopping though nor am I discouraged. I'm going back through all the zones realizing I only did 15 quests in Dragonblight (lol?) before moving on so back to that zone I go with 2 chars at 76 and 3 at 75.2. I hit 76 on my tank / healer helping my r/l friends get through a few instances as they are all dps classes.

What's stopping you guys from PvPing at all now to break up the grind? Ya your not 80 but I assume the classic BG's are still there? Theres pry a 70-79 bracket right? Go kill people.

Or:
Level professions
Use some rest on a 60 team so It starts building more
Go outside
Sit in front of wowhead and plan your quest routes/instance choices/rep grinds/gear lists for 80

Do what you gotta do, but if this game is starting to feel like a job then remind yourself; You don't sit at work whining on the forums that you have to work to succeed at your job. BUST YOUR ASS and get 'r done!

:thumbsup:

[Duese]

Something that I keep in my mind is that I won't "be able" to level these characters for probably another 2 years when they raise the level cap again. While it's not exactly the same since your characters were fresh to 70 before Wrath came out, it hopefully transcends the timeframe a little bit. It's really fun to do quests on my main(s) for more than just to make gold, do dailies, do random obscure quests for quest rewards, etc.

70 to 80 is not a walk in the park. Even when BC came out, I was still able to get 2+ lvl's a day on my schedule. With Wrath, I'm lucky to get a full level. I actually have no problems with that, I would love to have an Asheron's Call style of leveling where you really don't have a level cap, but once you hit a certain level you are able to do the highest end content.

[Ken]

[...]
What's stopping you guys from PvPing at all now to break up the grind? Ya your not 80 but I assume the classic BG's are still there? Theres pry a 70-79 bracket right? Go kill people.
[...]

A group of level 73 characters in green PvP gear(ok, with a bit of blue) versus level 80 characters in epic gear? Hah! I think not!



Or:
Level professions
Use some rest on a 60 team so It starts building more
The professions that matter are already at the level where I can't use the items that it produces because I'm too high level. Plus, you need lots of gold to do that unless you want to farm all the sources yourself(boring). Normally you can do some dailies to get gold for buying these resources, but after the level cap got raised, those dailies don't bring in much money anymore.



Go outside
First reasonable proposition :P


Sit in front of wowhead and plan your quest routes/instance choices/rep grinds/gear lists for 80
Meh, too boring :P


Do what you gotta do, but if this game is starting to feel like a job then remind yourself; You don't sit at work whining on the forums that you have to work to succeed at your job. BUST YOUR ASS and get 'r done!

:thumbsup:
Exactly! That's why I'm not giving up just yet ;P

As a sidenote: I didn't even notice that one of my characters dinged 73 yesterday. I only realized it when someone whispered "congrats!" to me xD

[Kaynin]

Hmm, I had parts in Dragonblight and Grizzly Hills where I had trouble leveling. But I bit through Dragonblight, Grizzle was too much though.

Then I went to Basin when I was 77, and let me tell you something. Basin starts with 2 or so crappy quests at nesingwary right? Well, after that, it's basicly all awesome quests! The frenzyheart/oracle quests are seriously fun to do as well. A good full level and I dunno, maybe 20% of a second level for all quests here.

Storm Peaks also has a fun questline starting in K3 saving goblins. Totally wort doing just for the storyline. (I think this might be like, A good level worth of quests, none too annoying. Some here and there that are annoying but not dominatingly annoying. :p)

And Ice Crown has some cool quests I think starting on the zeppelin, which asks you to talk to some ebon hold guy near the vault in the north. Also a somewhat crappy first quest, but worth doing long and fun questline afterwards, with a nice blue spellpower shield on the last quest. (prolly 80ish% of a level for this line)

Anyhow, don't give up! 10 hours per level should be easily reachable, that's not that much. :) Bite through the boring spots.

[Xar]

Missery loves company is what my wife says. :)

I'm really irritated with the many collection quests. I seem to remember a dev video interview where it seemed they were going to limit the collection quests and now that I'm playing Wrath it's damn collection quest after collection quest. I wanted the achievements so I was taking my time to do them but now I'm starting to just leave some of them until after I can fly again. Blizzard really needs to fix this by (1) making quest items drop for all members in a party and (2) all lootable world nodes lootable by every party member or just fit kill quests into the storyline instead of collecting bullshit all the time. On the upside the new collection method like the pilot's insignia is better than a straight loot item. I could ride around on my mount and pick them up.

Flying...yeah that's another bullshit aspect of wrath. I was all in favor of experiencing content but now I'm so sick of not having my flyers I've switched my opinion, it was a bad idea to not let us fly from the get go even if it cost us 2k at 70 but free as a quest at 77.

Third is the retarded vehicle system.

Fourth is the poo quests. It was funny the first couple of times but did we really need more in Wrath? ENOUGH POO QUESTS BLIZZARD! ENOUGH! It's dumb already.

[SilverSlice]

i got the blue's myself, my main shammy dinged 71 yesterday lol.
after half a of gamegame i feel like loggong off after an hour or two that is usually what i do.

buti survive by doing some tbc isntances now and then. atleast that is more intereting then woltk
quests or wipign in uppguard keep lol

do someting else now and then and you should be ok,

Silver

[TheBigBB]

Collection quests are out of hand is my only complaint. I get sucked into doing them and then find I wasted my night. Oh well. We're going to be 80 for a long time to come, so once it's over that's it. Try some other zones, too. Just drop all your quests and move on to some harder zone. Zul-Drak is an AWESOME zone. I feel like I'm playing Resident Evil WoW Edition in there. I love it.

[turbonapkin]

I too dinged my quad shamans a week before wrath, that alone was a hard enough task.

I decided to level a single DK when Wrath went live so I could fully enjoy the content rather than worrying about multiboxing + over population + pickup quest stress. Now my DK is 75, and I feel rested enough to make a start on the shammies.

The key is to take it real easy - this is not a race. Everyone will hit the level cap eventually!

[Coltimar]

I got burned out half way through 71, lol. So I zerged Heroic SP and Mech for fun. It was nice to 'go back' so to speak. Lots of fun.

[Ishar]

ug. i know what you mean.

i hit level 70 just long enough to get used to doing daileys and kinda interested in an alt group (hunters).

now im halfway to 71, and have NO intrest in leveling my shammy+pally. I keep either not playing or logging in my 30something hunters or my uh, level 60 death knights. Then after an hour or so of them I feel guilty cause their not the most 'efficient' and go back to the mains for an hour or two then get bored and log off and do something else. LOL.

*shrug* got plenty of time, not gonna get server firsts or anything anyway, lol.

[Kirkwood]

I only play 2 (arms war/ele sham) as a combo, but I can sympathize with the collection quest blues....



If I had a full team of 6 I'd skip questing and probably do 70-75 in Utgarde Keep and 75-78 in Violet Hold, and then quest for 78-80....

But leveling in dungeons you can get roughly the same exp per hour that you would get questing, without having to chase down / loot the 75 freaking Zul'Drak Rats.



Anyways, since you are already a walking group, take advantage of that, level in the dungeons, it'd be less stressful.



-kirkwood + berungox on darrowmere

[Nitro]

I dinged 74 on my shaman team last night and every other quest this last week seems to be a collection quest of some sort, its driving me a bit nuts and I considered just doing instances but the quests give Rep and Achievements so I would have to come back and do them anyways. I will just keep grinding on these things till I hit 80.

[Kromtor]

i love my death knight, but the massive amount of collection quests that i feel compelled to do to prevent missing out on gear has really made this expansion boring as shit to play. i have way more fun when im out of game theorycrafting.

[Boseefus]

Wow, I was busy at work today and wasn't able to get back on till now, but thank you for all of the input!

Misery does love company.

I think I'll take the time to level some professions, I leveled all of my collection professions while rolling but I need to pick up some other professions and other things. Who knows what else I may find to hit up...

Thanks again and keep it comin' we may help others in our situation. I feel better knowing that I'm not alone.
:)

[Fuzzyboy]

71-73 felt like a lot of work, especially since it wasn't long after launch and there were way too many people questing. I hit 76 yesterday and I've beaten the blues, probably because I can smell 80 coming closer and closer :-)

I really dislike the missing follow-option from vehicles, but other than that I'm pretty happy with the expansion so far. Some of the new mechanics are going to be a big challenge (the last boss of the old kingdom in heroic, the dragon-vehicle boss encounter), but I think most of these will be doable in one way or the other.

[Multibocks]

Whats really sad is how fast you move solo vs group. It used to be a benefit having your own group (speaking only of leveling) however there are so many people doing the same quests if you run into an elite it's a simple matter of "/say Invite?" and it's done. I level my paladin at work (hes 67 now) and my shamans only get love at home (they are 64.) He was screaming through the levels while my shaman feel like work. I'm committed this time though, I want to stay at the front of the leveling/pvp curve so I don't feel like I can't compete in arenas. I wont create a DK alt, I won't!!..... strong will leaving me.... must not..... aaaaaaaaaaahhhhh

[Ualaa]

Well.. if you play one toon, it feels faster because the collection quests or vehicle quests go at the normal pace. With a group, those type of quests just seem to take forever.

It is still faster to play a group as a team, then it is to play each member solo, one after the other. Mainly because even when there's only one drop per kill, the kill is so much faster.
I had a thread of basically the same issues. The longer you wait to level from 70 to 80, the fewer people you will compete with, and the easier that process will be.

It sucks that we'd like to be amongst the first to hit 80, to get ahead of the pvp curve and be in full set 1 gear or whatever it is called, while others are just starting to arena.
But ultimately, its a game which means it should be played for fun and be enjoyable. Any time its not fun, find a different aspect to play for fun or take a break.
You'll get to 80 when you do, and have fun when you're there. Try to make the leveling process as fun as possible, by realizing you don't have to do it in one long session.

[Bigfish]

I've got a bit of the blues myself, probably because I got 10 characters up and running, which was my long term goal. Now that that's accomplished, I have to find something new to set my sights on. I guess I just need to map out what I'm doing on my way to 80, what I'm going to do once I get there, and set a gear goal. I do find it moderately frustrating that a bunch of instances involve vehicles, which greatly precludes multiboxing.

Of course, It also sucks that you can't quest in a raid, so I'm stuck playing tag-with-one-group-then-the-other. That change never really made sense to me.

[Xinxo]

Personally, after my xfer to my new server, I am letting all of my multi-box teams get full rested before I start to level them up.

[hardcoded]

I've definitely put my shaman team down for a few days several times. Nothing worse than maxing out all non-collection quests, only to realize that they are necessary to get the rest of the quests in the area. I just leveled other teams. It'll be nice to have deathknights and druids anyways :)

When I came back to play my shamans 10-14 hours/level felt much more bearable, and I felt more rewarded for having opened up so many quests by doing the miserable collection quests (or figuring out how to box the vehicle quests...).

[Bigfish]

Are there even any quests where you HAVE to use the vehicle? I know in Borean Tundra, I was supposed to hop on a Bull Mammoth at some point to kill some guy, I looked at his HP, said "**** it" and kicked the tar out of him by hand. Is that normal for these things, or the exception?

[offive]

Are there even any quests where you HAVE to use the vehicle? I know in Borean Tundra, I was supposed to hop on a Bull Mammoth at some point to kill some guy, I looked at his HP, said "**** it" and kicked the tar out of him by hand. Is that normal for these things, or the exception?

Found one bad MB quest in Storm Peaks at the forge, you have to be on Snoril to get credit for the kills, and the credit only applies to one of your team. Other than that specific quest, most vehicle quests are some what MB friendly, except the follow thing. Actually if you can handle serious multi-tasking and changeing screens your group can be really powerful on some of the vehicle based quests. Oh and the K3 landmine daily is one of the best MB quests I have found yet.

Speaking of K3, I have to go back and try to get the Minesweeper acheivement on my team.

[pengwynman]

i find collection quests to be a lot more fun when i'm blazed >.> shh

i felt burnt-out, tired of leveling at about 72... mainly because i didn't experience any end-game at 70, i was only 68 when wotlk came out so i've literally leveled all my druids straight from 1-74 right now. around 73 i realized how much fun i was having leveling (i think i was on the bud then as well :P ), so now i've been kind of just taking things as they come. i'm still trying to go as fast as i can, but i'm enjoying the scenery more. my target date for 80 is before December 16th, when season 5 hits. i'm not too worried about it, i should have plenty of time to get there.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I sure hope with 25 shaman I can aoe my way from when I get thunderstorm to 80, I dont like quests at all.

[pengwynman]

I sure hope with 25 shaman I can aoe my way from when I get thunderstorm to 80, I dont like quests at all.you DON'T like quests, but you DO like rpg's? o.O

[Sam DeathWalker]

I kill mobs, not go from point A to point B for some pointless reason.

[Frosty]

I sure hope with 25 shaman I can aoe my way from when I get thunderstorm to 80, I dont like quests at all.I don't blame you.. it's hard enough clicking the quest giver with 5 toons..I can imagine doing it 25 times must really suck. :P

[zanthor]

I sure hope with 25 shaman I can aoe my way from when I get thunderstorm to 80, I dont like quests at all.http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51490

45 second cooldown. 5 normally is overkill for a pull of similar level mobs, definitely overkill if you drop nova totems too (which you can drop 25 since their cooldown is reasonably short)... (*BLINK* 25 nova totems is a lot of boom)... so as long as you aren't doing more than 1 pull per 10 seconds or so you should be fine to AE.

[Bigfish]

I kill mobs, not go from point A to point B for some pointless reason.

But can you see why kids love Cinamon Toast Crunch?

[Frosty]

I kill mobs, not go from point A to point B for some pointless reason.

But can you see why kids love Cinamon Toast Crunch?You, my friend, have just won the interwebz!!!!111 :thumbup:

[genocyde]

[...]
What's stopping you guys from PvPing at all now to break up the grind? Ya your not 80 but I assume the classic BG's are still there? Theres pry a 70-79 bracket right? Go kill people.
[...]

A group of level 73 characters in green PvP gear(ok, with a bit of blue) versus level 80 characters in epic gear? Hah! I think not!

Ok I assumed a lvl 70-79 bracket as I said. Not only that but your going to be geared like $#!+ til the second you hit 80 for PvP providing you buy the crafted PvP set at 80 otherwise have fun doing PvP gear grind for your first set while still geared bad. Also, S2-S4 PvP gear still > quest gear if your PvPing




Go outside
First reasonable proposition :P


Sit in front of wowhead and plan your quest routes/instance choices/rep grinds/gear lists for 80
Meh, too boring :P

I'm seeing a theme here..... maybe you should find something else to occupy your time until the next PTR patch session that allows premade lvl 80 toons

[elo]

Yup, same boat here. Thankfully my kids started playing and they really kinda turned it around. Only, they won't be here this long weekend, but my good 'ol job stepped up and I may not have to worry about free time over thanksgiving, so /meh

[puppychow]

I havent played at all for 3-4 days due to visiting family, I got a free few hours today (everyones out shopping, lol) and I can't find any interest at all in playing :( logged in, don't really feel like doing anything except browse the auction house. Especially when I see how many people are now 80 and in full super gear, meanwhile my team is at 75 and at least 2 weeks from 80 probably :( meh, might be time to give up wow again for a while.

[Tasty]

I have the blues atm as well, mainly due to my hard drive exploding and losing 900gb worth of tv/movies... little off topic but what the hell :P

Back on topic, I'm still having loads of fun but I find myself spending more fragmented time on wow instead of large chunks of time. With 11 million players I can safely go with the 'WoW will be there when I get back mentality' :P at the moment I'm only 74 (5 off 75) but pvp is great and questings more fun than BC was for me so its all good

The one thing I have noticed is I'm in less of a hurry to level and I'm enjoying the process more than I did in BC. Not sure about PreBC cause I can't remember that far back :D

[SilverSlice]

i've have desided to lvl up a deathknigth and use as a tank, so perhaps it goes better then

Silver

[Menthu]

I'm almost 78 and actually, those collection quests arent that bad. Yes, sometimes, im done with them, but then I hope I get some easy quests after them. Most of the time that is the case, before I get yet another collection quest :P

I do want to level abit "fast" cause I want to PvP again and experience content on level 80. Else I would play for like an hour or 2 a day and get 80 the relaxed way.

Not doing the collection quests only sucks more, cause then you will find yourself trying to clear an instance for crap experience and wiping alot ( in my case atleast with 4 shamans and 1 healer :P )

I tried instancing ones in UK and never did an instance again :P I will save that for level 80.

My advice: just go on doing the quests and suck it up! You will be happy with the result when you are 80!

Jungle love,

-Menthu

[sojolly]

No! Going back to the everlasting grind that was Asheron's Call or the early days of EverQuest would be crazy now. I used to keep track of my hours per level in AC. I quit at 89 and it was in the hundreds of hours per level. I know they made the game easier three years in, but that was after i left. Can you imagine the complaining if they did that?

Ding 89! you have killed your 7 millionth tusker, only 40 more levels to go. << no thanks

Sojolly of Fizzcrank
aka Sojo-sun of Leafcull
aka Ictherus of Tribunal
aka Ictherus of Rubi-Ka

I actually have no problems with that, I would love to have an Asheron's Call style of leveling where you really don't have a level cap, but once you hit a certain level you are able to do the highest end content.

[Soundeyes]

I've got two teams to 75. Taking it pretty slow and skipping almost all the annoying quests. Mixing it up with some ganking and instances. Avoid burnout with variety and pacing.


Just wanted to make a comment on gear. I know a lot of you seem focused on being at the front of the pack, and that's fine. However I find that I do really well in world PvP (ie: ganking, anti-ganking) and battlegrounds no matter what gear I have. Maybe it's because my main crew is 1xPally and 4xMages but nothing stops us. 80s try to gank us all the time and I kill them right away and usually do a /facepalm. Yes I know gear is important but the game is about having fun and the moment things feel like work it's no longer fun.

[OzPhoenix]

I'm trying to do all quests on my teams, but I'm so bored with all this collection quest crap, I'm close to quitting. Wrath leveling content has been awful so far. (now at 76.75)

[ganjakru]

I got to a point i just gave up @ lvl 74 and cut down from 5 to 3 or 4. Really got so tired with questing (almost all chain quest has one pick-up) and tried grinding instances to level but both are just PITA.On one hand i recently just bought a new comp and damn i didn't realised i've missed out so much on the graphics in wow and playing MB has crappy gfx when running in one comp. On the other hand, the whole reason of WoW is frens and 5 boxing just defeats the purpose to certain extend, especially new ex-pac.

[d0z3rr]

Wow you guys made it to 74? I'm 70.8 and already immensly bored with Northrend. The quests are boring, and you have to do a shitload of quests before you get any decent amount of XP. Maybe I'm used to RAF XP gains, but this is a drag.

I login to my group and play maybe an hour before I can't take it anymore. I'm already contemplating starting another team, but what's the point of that? I'll just wind up hitting Northrend with them and getting bored again.

At least this gives me time to finish some other games I never did - Too Human, Ninja Gaiden 2, another playthrough of KoToR 2....

[Malekyth]

Wow you guys made it to 74? I'm 70.8 and already immensly bored with Northrend. The quests are boring, and you have to do a shitload of quests before you get any decent amount of XP. Maybe I'm used to RAF XP gains, but this is a drag.
I made it to 71 before I came to that conclusion! I don't find it boring exactly, just tedious to multibox and not the comfortable happy place that Outland was from the very beginning (and no, can't define what I mean by that :)). Maaaan I wish I'd only upgraded one toon to WotLK, as was my original plan, to check it out and see if I wanted to take the plunge. I could have used the level-capped money from SSO dailies to keep my lowbies rolling.

Next time I try Northrend, I'm going to take my guys out of Howling Fijord and give Borean Tundra a shot. Gotta try ... five WotLKs was 'spensive.

[Hat]

The problem with this versus Outland is Outland quest chains typically followed a simple logic - if you are doing a kill quest, the next quest is a kill quest. If you are doing a collect quest, the next quest is a collect quest. Here you have to do both before any other chains open up. It's killer. Add on top of that the whole vehicle issue, and honestly, anyone who makes it to 80 MB'ing deserves to multibox. There's great storylines and epic quests, but you just have to do a lot of one chain to get to them. : / Blizzard is weird - they always seem to take two steps forward and one step back.

[Dohagan]

Instances + movies = Beat the blues :)

At 75ish my guys were getting about 300-350k/hr just running Gundruk over and over (skipping bosses and no looting). Its not exciting...not much content...but you can do it while watching movies and at 5hrs/level the time isn't that outrageous. Just a thought for people that are burned out that still want to hurry to 80.

[Gadzooks]

Wow you guys made it to 74? I'm 70.8 and already immensly bored with Northrend. The quests are boring, and you have to do a shitload of quests before you get any decent amount of XP. Maybe I'm used to RAF XP gains, but this is a drag.

I login to my group and play maybe an hour before I can't take it anymore. I'm already contemplating starting another team, but what's the point of that? I'll just wind up hitting Northrend with them and getting bored again.

At least this gives me time to finish some other games I never did - Too Human, Ninja Gaiden 2, another playthrough of KoToR 2....Yeah, the beginnings of Borean and Howling can get dull, but grind through it, because it leads to really fun quests later - I really enjoyed the last 1/4 of Borean (The D.E.T.A quests were fun, and the murlock quests at the end are GREAT) and I'm enjoying Howling Fjord, i'm in that place I can't pronounce in the north, with the Necrolords and such, and i'm enjoying it.

Do what I did - unlock both starting zones, and work your way in to Dragonblight. The DB quests are also fun, I'm enjoying them as well. I just went back and forth between the 2 zones (later 3 with DB), and when I got bored, I'd go empty my bags, restock, and head off to the other. No problems. For every 9 quests that are okay or boring, there's one or two that are insanely awesome! :)

Some of the dailies you unlock are fun too - at least get to them, and then just log in and do them. Get the pirate ship bombing and flying patrol dailies in Howling Fjord - you'll get a good feel for the zone getting to them, and they're fun as hell.

[DgtlSorcrs]

If you only did 15 quests in Dragonblight, it's no wonder you're out of stuff to do elsewhere...

What I do is look at the "you did this many quests" achievement for the given zone. I don't feel that I have to make the achievement before I cam move on, but I do use it as a gauge as to how far along I am.

In BC and earlier, it seems that only specific quest lines were, well, lines, and mostly you could just pick and choose. However, in WOTLK, many seemingly unrelated quests open up once you're done certain "openers". it's not a traditional "quest chain", it's more like "once you complete these three, A bunch of the main quests at this hub open up" ... and the resulting child quest lines often need to be done to open up "the big one" for the area.

Basically, what it boils down to is try to do ALL the quests you can find in an area. If you need to break up the collection quests, start out another hub area until you get to THEIR collection quests, or go do something else, but keep plugging away. It felt like an awful grind for a while, but once I hit 77, it felt like I blinked and my main was 80. Oh, and you make a pretty good amount of gold while just doing your thing in Northrend. it's maybe not quite as big a jump from Outland to Northrend as the money was when we originally went to Outland from Azeroth, but it's still not bad.

[TheBigBB]

I'm amused that people are saying it's too much of a drag to level up. Collection quests are a drag to be sure, and there are certainly way too many of them. But honestly, you really can't get much more casual in terms of leveling up than WoW. I mean you just won't find a MMO that's willing to allow its players to burn through content at the speed WoW allows it.

[DgtlSorcrs]

I'm amused that people are saying it's too much of a drag to level up. Collection quests are a drag to be sure, and there are certainly way too many of them. But honestly, you really can't get much more casual in terms of leveling up than WoW. I mean you just won't find a MMO that's willing to allow its players to burn through content at the speed WoW allows it.

Personally, I really get into leveling... maybe too much... as I tend to try and go as fast as I can on my first go-round. Actually, I'm in a guild of fairly casual players, (none of whom multibox), and only two of our members beat my main to 80... the vast majority of our players are still in the 74-76 range. Once I get my (currently 79) holy priest and mage to 80, I'll level my other set of toons to 80 much more casually and use mytrio of 80s to help my fellow guildies with group quests and running instances.

Anyway, Ive got a 70 rogue, a 70 druid, and a 60 shammy waiting in the wings... not to mention three accounts worth of Death Knights... glad I LIKE leveling :)