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xshadowdragon
11-06-2008, 08:52 PM
Im leveling a mage and a paladin through RaF. Both are level 16 right now I think but once I get consecrate and Blizzard if I don't have it already, I was wodnering if it would be possible to run in with the paladin, aggro how ever many mobs I want, target one and have the paladin consecrate every 8 seconds, judgement every 8 seconds, crusader strike every 6 seconds, etc... so I can be on the mage casting flamestrike then blizzard. What would a macro like this look like? I don't think I can make a macro for the mage that looks like this because they're AoE spells are targetable.

Redbeard
11-06-2008, 10:10 PM
For the mage, any spell wtih an aiming reticle cant be macroed (i.e. blizzard)... all others should be able to.

The paladin one is easy... if you want to fine tune it youd make one macro for each ability bound to different keys... if you just want a button to spam so you can concentrate on your mage, youd do a /castrandom consecration, crusader strike etc etc and cast random will pick a spell to cast that is not on CD at the moment.

Here is a the guide for making macros,

http://www.wowwiki.com/Making_a_macro

Good luck.

elsegundo
11-06-2008, 10:42 PM
/castsequence crusader strike, consecrate, judgement


as for the mage, you'll have to do it manually. so alt+tab to control mage.


or to make it quicker. i'd just make my mage /follow after the first judgement and spam arcane explosion.
so leave mage in a spot. run around and gather mobs. run close to mage and spam above macro. /follow on mage and let them have it with arcane explosion.

xshadowdragon
11-06-2008, 11:34 PM
Thanks both of you! I will have my paladin macro be /castrandom concecrate, judgement of light, Crusader Strike, Divine Storm. And i'll have the seal I want on a different macro that I'll hit before every fight. And I guess Ill just spam AE. Thanks again!

Edit- After thinking about it if I do /cast random, he'll just keep spamming concecrate so I guess ill take that out and just do it when I see it go away?

Redbeard
11-07-2008, 12:49 AM
Well you have two options, you can do /castrandom or you can do /castsequence.

/castsequence casts the spells you want in order so, for example. If you always want to cast consecration, judgement of x, divine storm and crusaders strike, in THAT order, then a castsequence button will work for you.

/castrandom takes your list of spells and chooses one that is available.

The difference is, say judgement of x is on cooldown... if you come to that spell in your castsequence and you hit the macro, nothing will happen. So basically you have to wait for the cooldown to refresh before you can move to the next spell in the sequence. WIth /castrandom , if it tries to cast judgement of x and its on cooldown, it will just choose something else to cast.

Hope thats helpful.

Seldum
11-17-2008, 09:11 AM
Hope thats helpful.

You got that right! What a super usefull piece of information! (even if its stated in some topic 200 years old)

olipcs
11-17-2008, 09:41 AM
as for the mage, you'll have to do it manually. so alt+tab to control mage.
true in general, but not under any circumstance: if you are using Octopus or HotKeyNet you can use 'mousebroad-casting' to do the blizzard while playing the pally.

Frosty
11-17-2008, 09:57 AM
Or.. you could set up and AoE key for both toons, lets say "6".. Set the paladin to consecrate and the mage to use arcane explosion...then spam the heck out of the button. :)

olipcs
11-17-2008, 10:08 AM
Or.. you could set up and AoE key for both toons, lets say "6"which works perfectly with a mage, a priest and a warlock (with hellfire) as its all untargette aoe, but if you play a druid or a hunter (or want to use the targetet aoes of your mage and warlock) it can't be done this way :(

Frosty
11-17-2008, 11:51 AM
Or.. you could set up and AoE key for both toons, lets say "6"which works perfectly with a mage, a priest and a warlock (with hellfire) as its all untargette aoe, but if you play a druid or a hunter (or want to use the targetet aoes of your mage and warlock) it can't be done this way :(
Don't forget the Shamen totems! ;)

They really need to make those targeted AoE spells just cast if you have a taget selected though IMHO.

Maxion
11-17-2008, 01:31 PM
Thanks both of you! I will have my paladin macro be /castrandom concecrate, judgement of light, Crusader Strike, Divine Storm. And i'll have the seal I want on a different macro that I'll hit before every fight. And I guess Ill just spam AE. Thanks again!

Edit- After thinking about it if I do /cast random, he'll just keep spamming concecrate so I guess ill take that out and just do it when I see it go away?
Consecrate has a cooldown for its duration, so he won't be spamming just that.



Or.. you could set up and AoE key for both toons, lets say "6"which works perfectly with a mage, a priest and a warlock (with hellfire) as its all untargette aoe, but if you play a druid or a hunter (or want to use the targetet aoes of your mage and warlock) it can't be done this way :(
You don't want to be spamming a button with hellfire on it, since it'll recast it every time, taking the mana cost each time. Rather just start it and let it keep going as long as you need it (or until its 15 seconds duration is done).

Frosty
11-17-2008, 01:36 PM
You don't want to be spamming a button with hellfire on it, since it'll recast it every time, taking the mana cost each time. Rather just start it and let it keep going as long as you need it (or until its 15 seconds duration is done).
I'd like to introduce you to my little friend /stopmacro [channeling] ...or some variation. :P

Or, you could do something like /castsequence reset=x hellfire, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , etc..

elsegundo
11-17-2008, 02:40 PM
with a glyph, you can make your consecrate last two more seconds, and also adds two more seconds to your consecrate cooldown. longer consecrate means having to spam it less, and with that spell being one of your most mana-intensive spells, i'd say that's a good glyph.

Ualaa
11-17-2008, 09:18 PM
For the paladin, make a castrandom.

/castrandom Consecrate, Holy Shield

If an ability is on cooldown, it won't be cast as part of the cast random.
So most of the time that toon's screen will be spammed with spell/item is not ready yet.
If you want you could include the script to clear error messages, but it doesn't change the functionality of the macro.
Still one button will keep these two abilities up, pretty much constantly if you mash the button.

Your mage has both arcane explosion (macro this, if you want to be on another toon) or blizzard (need to be active on this toon to click the target location).
Generally the target AoE's seem to be more powerful then the PBAoE versions.
So pick a toon with a target AoE, and macro the others.
With two toons this is easy, as the paladin's only aoe is macroable.

If you were to add another class to the mix, then you'd need to decide if they had a passive (macroable) aoe or if they needed to be actively targeted.
The mage has both, but blizzard is the better of the two.

elsegundo
11-17-2008, 09:51 PM
Another way to do this would be to be on your mage. have your pally stand in a spot right in front of the mage. target a group of mobs and cast counterspell on one of them.
have them run to the pally who's ready with consecreate. consecrate will pull aggro over your counterspell. have your pally go through the motions (holyshield, judgements, etc) while your mage runs back about 20 yards and cast blizzard when you think it wont trump your pally's aggro. Omen helps. =]

this takes a bit of setting up but it should work.

elo
11-18-2008, 10:26 AM
Whatever happened to Falkor's mod that would let you cast the targettable spells by clicking on the minimap? I don't see it up on the stickies list. I remember there was an issue with it not working when there's a modeled floor (vs. just normal terrain) but still it'd be awesome for the run around and nuke stuff.

olipcs
11-18-2008, 12:00 PM
as far as i know blizzard removed the ping-minimap-thing, so its not working

Bigfish
11-18-2008, 01:46 PM
You don't want to be spamming a button with hellfire on it, since it'll recast it every time, taking the mana cost each time. Rather just start it and let it keep going as long as you need it (or until its 15 seconds duration is done).
I'd like to introduce you to my little friend /stopmacro [channeling] ...or some variation. :P

Or, you could do something like /castsequence reset=x hellfire, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , etc..

My personal favorite:

/cast [nochanneling] Hellfire

Frosty
11-18-2008, 02:36 PM
My personal favorite:

/cast [nochanneling] Hellfire Show-off! :P

Jubex
12-21-2008, 04:00 AM
Is there a replacement macro instead of the ping thing?

I use keyclone and really would like to be able to use something like that...wonder if keyclone guy is working on that that would be awesome!

algol
12-21-2008, 08:02 AM
This may work, but I haven't tested it.

Binding Mouse Clicks to your Keyboard ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=17593')

Bigfish
12-22-2008, 12:38 PM
It works, but its stability and accuracy is based entirely on how well the camera on your alt is positioned in the first place, and the terrain you're using it in. A small dip in the terrain can cause your mouse to hover over a spot thats 100 yards away. I'm sure with some practice it would work really well.

The real question is how often does this sort of AOE come in handy? Such spells are typically mana intensive, and require pulls of 5+ to really start dishing out more damage than you could other wise get spamming a direct damage spell. Potential Volley exclusion until the incoming nerf.

zanthor
12-22-2008, 01:21 PM
Is there a replacement macro instead of the ping thing?

I use keyclone and really would like to be able to use something like that...wonder if keyclone guy is working on that that would be awesome!Keyclone h as a mouse click broadcast but its slow at the moment. InnerSpace has very reliable mouse broadcasting, when used with a camera set macro you can accurately lay AE effects.