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diplomatboxer
11-04-2008, 06:44 PM
Heya fellow multiboxers

I started about a 5 weeks ago with a 3 shammy, druid healer, pally tank team

I have had many negative and rather abusive reactions from random people i meet as i quest.

In a attempt to do damage control and keep good wow public relations, I try to remain polite and explain that I am not
hurting anyone through multiboxing. I even got to the point of writing a macro for these encounters..... -_@


In short it explains that i choose to spend my time playing in this manner, and that it is a isolated from guild/group based progression. That my style of play outside of pvp has no direct impact on their gaming experience. I also remind them that i was minding my own business when all of a sudden someone whispers. yells. or says unkind things with no apparant provocation (other than being a "multiboxer") So who is being disruptive to the flow of wow? -_-


Many people who started off conversations with me with expletives often begrudgingly agree with the points i bring up.
Person by person I am attempting to provide positive interactions as a multiboxer.

As i quest, i go out of my way to not be a mob hog. I often help people as i travel around questing. They wind up appreciating it, and will with some luck, will spread some positive feelings of that encounter into the wow community

So I urge all of you to do the same, so we can play in peace with out people attacking us with no provocation.
More importantly we can help each other insure that we will continue to enjoy Multiboxing with out "official" limitations


Sorry about the grammar! Not one of my strengths.
Hope this is in the right forum.

Thanks

bodefeld
11-04-2008, 06:50 PM
True.
It is difficult at times, but we're best off thinking of ourselves as diplomats/representatives of the whole community. Our "enemies" are just waiting for any /s or /t worth writing a ticket against us.

Behave^^

Tehtsuo
11-04-2008, 06:51 PM
http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Server_Politics

More goodness

elsegundo
11-04-2008, 06:52 PM
i only reply to genuine questions, or what i believe to be genuine.

all other commenters go on ignore. there is no need to enter into arguments. it probably entertains them more that way anyway.

diplomatboxer
11-04-2008, 06:54 PM
Yah no arguments from me i assure you. I dont argue with people who have no desire to listen or have discourse.

I give my informational macro and give them a polite G bye

:thumbsup:

diplomatboxer
11-04-2008, 06:55 PM
oh and thanks for the link on the subject :D

aboron
11-04-2008, 07:16 PM
It has never failed that every time I get to the last level 21 elite boss in ghostlands quests (for the nice blue), I get down there to find some poor solo fool trying repeatedly to take him down. And every time so far I have told them to just tag the guy and I burn him down for them. Hope fully this puts a positive light on the use of multiboxing power for "good". And creates one less disgruntled person on the server.

Turenn
11-04-2008, 07:25 PM
Funny thing is when I hit 70 all the abuse stopped. Now when I meet someone, it's like ohh, your the guy with the warrior and 4 shammies, right? But when I start a new team that I didn't invite to my guild it's back to the same abuse, mind you the abuse comes only from low level player.

valkry
11-04-2008, 07:39 PM
People start to like you when you absolutely blast the rogue who has just opened up on them into oblivion!

Tasty
11-04-2008, 09:28 PM
People start to like you when you absolutely blast the rogue who has just opened up on them into oblivion!

What happens when you wait till the rogue wins then kill him so they're both dead?

valkry
11-04-2008, 11:51 PM
They actually thank you for getting revenge for them lol. Now, in that situation, I am put into two minds. Do I a) let the rogue kill the ally then kill the rogue so I can laugh at them both dying? Or b) kill the rogue before he can kill the Ally because I despise horde and rogues so I do NOT want him to get an HK?

Decisions...

Tasty
11-04-2008, 11:55 PM
laugh at the ally corpse and cheer the horde. They both complain just as much the only difference is you can't hear the horde complaining cause of the language barrier.

valkry
11-05-2008, 12:02 AM
The day I cheer a horde rogue is the day I get taken over by aliens and lose control of my actions. Even then I'd struggle to see how they could completely dominate my will power enough to force me to type out that emote.

Tasty
11-05-2008, 12:03 AM
lol fair enough. I used to hate rogues the most pre 3.0... I'll still go for them first out of spite but I dislike other things worse now. I'd have to say hunters.

algol
11-05-2008, 12:06 AM
What happens when you wait till the rogue wins then kill him so they're both dead?Ancestral Spirit ('http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=49277')

Tasty
11-05-2008, 12:08 AM
What happens when you wait till the rogue wins then kill him so they're both dead?Ancestral Spirit ('http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=49277')

I was hanging out with a horde priest once and he watched me kill some other horde. He then ressed him and we killed him again... and then he ressed him AGAIN and we killed him again lol. He just released afterwards

valkry
11-05-2008, 12:08 AM
What happens when you wait till the rogue wins then kill him so they're both dead?Ancestral Spirit ('http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=49277')
Lol, as if waste mana on Ally, tsk tsk

lexuspartsdude
11-05-2008, 01:09 PM
I was out in nagrand leveling my shaman/mage combo (currently at 66) and was not hogging the mobs by any means at this particular questing spot, was just going at it average. I see this hunter who looks like hes having a bit of trouble at one point so i figure what the hell, i toss his mobs a few lightning bolts and an arcane blast, bwomp dead. Mind you his life is at maybe 5% right now. Ya know what his replay in /say was? "THANKS, BUT I CAN KILL MY OWN MOBS YOU TRICK". I didnt reply back. BUT ... karma bit him in the ass about 10 minutes later, i WATCHED him die when he mispulled, feign death on CD maybe? Then i stood there and waited for him to get his corpse, and replied "i coulda healed ya, i couldve even rezzed ya, but im a trick" He didnt reply back.

EvilSqueegee
11-05-2008, 02:09 PM
I go out of my way to help people when I'm questing or running around doing whatever. Someone tags a mob, I gank it. I was out in terrokar when my shamans were 66ish, and a bunch of alliance were doing the Fumper quest. I just parked myself, dropped the totem farm, and played 'you tag it I bag it' with like 5 different people at once. It was a blast.

then again, my mindset is pretty simple: I don't see rogues or mages or paladins or mobs. I just see red names. They're moving, and I need to fix it! Rawr.

Dreamtheather
11-05-2008, 02:26 PM
i only reply to genuine questions, or what i believe to be genuine.

all other commenters go on ignore. there is no need to enter into arguments. it probably entertains them more that way anyway.QFT

pengwynman
11-05-2008, 03:17 PM
then again, my mindset is pretty simple: I don't see rogues or mages or paladins or mobs. I just see red names. They're moving, and I need to fix it! Rawr.This!

I love being able to gank lvl 70's with 5 61's :P
i love the world pvp i've had while leveling, where there's a small group of alli trying to get the best of me. good times.

Bigfish
11-05-2008, 03:48 PM
I always come across more negative reactions on low level characters than high level ones.

pengwynman
11-05-2008, 04:01 PM
I always come across more negative reactions on low level characters than high level ones.i actually come across more negative reactions from high level characters, and more curiosity from low level characters. high levels have that animosity from being torn apart by a boxer in bg's, and the majority of the time, there's nothing you can do to convince them you're not doing anything wrong.... even though you just KNOW that given the chance, (i.e. 5 accts paid for, the hardware to do it) they would multibox in a heartbeat.

Marious
11-05-2008, 05:36 PM
Well I try to help out but a lot of times its like why even bother? If the person is going to be a tool afterword's, for the most part if I see some one 1 on 1 I let them be I will only help you if you get some one trying to jump you, and all I will do is heal you so that you have a good chance to come out victorious if you don't its on you, I only provide the opportunity if you chose not to use it oh well. But if your getting ganked by multiple guys I try and help if I can.

Yesterday I am leveling and I am just going to tag mobs, I am doing nothing to the hordie and what does he do? Well he attacks me, and I have to retaliate and I kill him, afterwords here comes a 70 to help out the one guy that decided that he wanted to kill a multiboxer. /sigh I got camped for a bit, and I am not stupid I harted no point in wasting time if your just gonna get camped. I come back and same guy is there, so before he takes my team down I burn him down to about 60% well he kind of figured out that he would probably die and he left me alone, I run into another 70 and he attacks me, I unloaded on him and even with 1 guy going down and team feared I blasted him. HIs bad for messing with a lv 62 with 3 guys in tow :).

caffiend86
11-05-2008, 11:34 PM
Yesterday I am leveling and I am just going to tag mobs, I am doing nothing to the hordie and what does he do? Well he attacks me, and I have to retaliate and I kill him, afterwords here comes a 70 to help out the one guy that decided that he wanted to kill a multiboxer. /sigh I got camped for a bit, and I am not stupid I harted no point in wasting time if your just gonna get camped. I come back and same guy is there, so before he takes my team down I burn him down to about 60% well he kind of figured out that he would probably die and he left me alone, I run into another 70 and he attacks me, I unloaded on him and even with 1 guy going down and team feared I blasted him. HIs bad for messing with a lv 62 with 3 guys in tow :).

I used to run into this kind of problem alot especially in pre-outland zones when I would come across a bored 70 helping a lowbie friend get through some quests who generally decides to alleviate his boredom by turning me into corpses.

My answer: Nuke the lowbie or even better every enemy lowbie in sight before you get killed by the 70, die and do it again. Basically you let everyone around you know "sure this guy can kill me, but I'm taking each one of you bystanders with me, enjoy the corpse run". Most often the guy playing the lowbie who keeps getting one shotted by you will get sick of dying repeatedly and get his 70 friend to go somewhere else in search of easier grinding. Leaving you free to quest in peace :)

TheBigBB
11-06-2008, 12:15 PM
People usually get more upset over PVP issues. I have very few negative comments on a PVE server, which I play on because I simply can't stand random world PVP. I do tend to ignore negativity, but I always explain that the followers aren't bots and don't involve hacking if someone suggests that.

Thulos
11-06-2008, 12:34 PM
i only reply to genuine questions, or what i believe to be genuine.

all other commenters go on ignore. there is no need to enter into arguments. it probably entertains them more that way anyway. This is exactly how I am. I rarely if ever answer tells and am very quick with the ignore button (I love wow instant messenger).

Marious
11-06-2008, 04:07 PM
Yeah its a bit rougher on PVP server, biggest reason I am not 70 yet lots of camping and corps runs kills leveling time, though I have lots of fun on the server since lots of people I play with are on there. And I have been with the current guild for a very long time and it would suck to go establish yourself elsewhere though it would probably not be to rough. 70's seem to love to camp me until I give them reason not to, which is to almost kill them or outright kill them :)

Hachoo
11-06-2008, 04:29 PM
I've always been a loyal Horde member, you know FOR THE HORDE! and all that.

When I'm running around QD, the world, etc, if I see a single alliance (level 70 or not), I pretty much leave them alone. Usually if I see more than 1 together they attack me anyway so I own them, but if they leave me alone I'll usually leave them alone, until theres 3+ of them...

Now, when I'm on QD, etc, if I see an ally kill a horde, ESPECIALLY if its while the horde is killing a monster, I will own the hell out of the ally and then camp him for awhile. I get a lot of Horde friends this way...these days when I'm questing on the isle, I usually get people /cheering as soon as I show up or saying things like "YAY! The cavalry has arrived!" etc, since I help everyone out so much.

I also use 5x earth shock as I'm passing by every other horde fighting something, just to make their kill go faster. People always thank me and I'm getting quite a friendly reputation on the Horde side now. Most of the alliance seem to be OK with me too since I don't go around ganking single alliance members at all unless they deserve it.

Rin
11-06-2008, 04:48 PM
I'll leave people that are lower in levels than me alone; I wont hesitate to kill people that are level 70 though. It usually takes an organized, concentrated effort to kill my 10 characters, so I always applaud those who can do it. Case in point, last night I was running around capturing the towers in HFP, I killed a couple random allys and a Fel Reacer on the way to the towers... but then something happened; I realized that I had been dual stun locked, and was being attacked by something else... I quickly turned around only to see a hill full of alliance members firing down on me. I don't think I've ever seen that many alliance members at once, ever, LoL. There had to be at allys in double-digit figures attacking me. Alas, I died - more power to people who organize and destroy those of us who only play 1 char. :D

I don't really worry too much about etiquette in my travels. If they're level 70 and on the Alliance side, they die. It's simple. I have had several Alliance members hop over to their horde characters to send me tells after I kill them like, "WTF? how many characters do you have?" Stuff like that :). :thumbsup:

Farleito
11-06-2008, 06:25 PM
I play the game for myself. Turn the chat window off and play the game. Like me, hate me... don't care.

Did I steal your kill? It's not "yours" if I can loot it.
No mobs left to kill? Too bad. I paid this months subscription too.

I don't see the point of this thread. The reason why Multiboxing is legal is because you can't do anything more than what a party of individuals can do. 4 other individuals can steal kills or clean out a spawn point. Why go out of your way to be extra nice? You can be the nicest person in the world, and still get mugged/murdered/raped. You don't have to be boxing to get harassed. With 10 million+ people playing this game, you're bound to run into some dickheads. It's just easier to get picked on when you stand out...

You're boxing because you don't want to group up with other people, right? Leave it at that.

Ualaa
11-06-2008, 07:36 PM
Most people are good. A few are rotten apples.
You get good with bad, that's normal.
Usually the good far outweighs the bad.
But for some reason the bad sticks out in our minds more.

Most of the people I see are curious of what we're doing and how it is done.

A few (the rotten apples) are jealous of what we can do that they cannot; or
have lost to a boxer in pvp and do not like that four toons usually beats 1 toon, boxed or not.

I had one guy who walked up to me and used the /spit emote.
I asked him what's up, and he basically started swearing.. F*** y**, dumb b**** etc.
So he ends it with, I spit on you again.

I reply, well as a boxer I spit on you five times.
Then added the guy to my ignore, which conveniently enough was all toons via global broadcasting of keys.

kllrwlf
11-07-2008, 05:49 PM
/ignore is your friend.

Ektomorf
11-07-2008, 08:45 PM
Only real negativity is people saying "reported" "your banned" "stop botting"
I normally explain what Im doing and they do a full 360.

Horde seem to target me alot though....constantly get camped by 70s....very annoying but then i just log and play my other team :D

RobinGBrown
11-08-2008, 04:13 PM
you're bound to run into some dickheads
There's always more dickheads around if you're an ass...

By which I mean that if you expect other people to screw you, you're going to get screwed more often that if you expected them to be nice. It's the other side of the live and let live coin.

I am on a RPPVP server and it's hardly ever a problem

Farleito
11-10-2008, 05:40 PM
There's always more dickheads around if you're an ass...

By which I mean that if you expect other people to screw you, you're going to get screwed more often that if you expected them to be nice. It's the other side of the live and let live coin.


If you expect people to screw with you, you are prepared to deal with it. If you expect everyone to be nice, you WILL be let down. Don't be naive. This is the internet, where everyone looks better than you, makes more money than you and everyone can kick your ass.

What I'm referring to is that other "coin"... Do onto others as you would like done onto you. I personally like to be left alone in the game. I don't go running around insulting people or starting conversations. Since I expect people to do this, I simply turn the chat window and whispers off. Don't have to worry about it.