please update this site

[Tsunami]

I have spent the last couple of days reading dozens of threads here, reading as many guides as i could find, followed some links to admins blogs and how to guides, read the wikipedia(thats how i found this site), gone off site to do research about add-ons, plug-ins and shareware programs and after spending some time here I have come to this conclusion.

Almost everything you would want to know about multi-boxing is somewhere on this site. The problem is finding it quickly. I'm sure for people that have been doing this for awhile have most of what they need to successfully multibox. But as a newbie the amount of information that is dumped into the limited number of catagories is overwelming. e.g. in this section there is 115 pages of posts. I spent 4 hours today and only got into the low 20's. when i finally found what i was looking for it was originally posted dec 07' and only located it because someone linked the orginal post.

So for the Admin, I think you started something here that has grown past your initial goals. 3000+ members is not a small information site, but the information is getting lost in the layout. which I can imagine is leading to increased frustration in answering the same questions over and over and over again. the search capabilities of this site is not very good because the way people post their threads. e.g. some people use: mac, macpro, mac pro, apple, macintosh, mac book pro. even if they use the would mac the search might not find that post in a thread.

Again I think this site is great, but needs improvement. e.g. I'm a mac user but trying to find information on using a mac to multibox is difficult. there are not many of us mac users( now about 5% of the computer market), mac posts are few and far between, it would be nice to give us our own catagory. maybe a section for 1 computer users and another for 5 computer users. each class could have its own section also.

just some thoughts from someone new here. love the site.

[Alienenduro]

Very good point, I started multiboxing a while back now but in the beginning it was a nightmare to find what i needed, took hours of post searching but in the end i got there. i recommend a site revamp to make things a bit more search friendly.

[Svpernova09]

Very good point, I started multiboxing a while back now but in the beginning it was a nightmare to find what i needed, took hours of post searching but in the end i got there. i recommend a site revamp to make things a bit more search friendly./shakes magic 8 ball

Most likely.

[Wonzai]

I would like to second this motion.

[keyclone]

expecting Ellay to do it all is a bit much.

of course, you all could offer to help and maybe Ellay could divide up the tasks appropriately

[Vyndree]

It's an uphill struggle. The forum is a haven for information, but forums -- in general -- lack categorization.

We do have a wiki ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki') which is growing slowly but surely, and we are attempting to move particularly valuable threads/guides to the wiki as quickly as possible (keeping in mind that most of us have somewhat hectic lifestyles and, while we love helping people out, don't always have hours upon hours to search for these things either). I think the best way to help minimize the problem is to contribute to the solution -- as a newbie, you have common questions and if/when you find answers, just take a few moments to jot it down in a wiki page. Even if the formatting isn't pretty -- someone can come in behind you and clean up the display of the page.

Even just taking a few moments to make sure your post is in the correct subforum is a step up to help information be more noticable. However, you'll realize the conundrum of creating a "mac" forum when your post about mac software fits under both the "software" forum (for software multiboxing programs on macs), mac forum (for your OS), and macro forum at the same time. We actually tried to use additional subcategories to seperate various forums and that was met with conflicting reviews -- most people just refused to use the categorization at all and everything ended up in the general forums and newbie forums regardless of content.

I also have a "guide to guides ('http://vboxing.net/guide')" which is essentially a crosslinking page. It provides LINKS to various valuable pages, wikis, and resources. If you haven't already seen it, it may help.

Last, but not least, there is a Mac section on the wiki ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Mac') but it is terribly lacking. I don't know how many mac boxers are around but I'd love to have your input on that page -- I have NO experience with macs. The software page in the wiki has a chart at the bottom ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Software#Software_Comparison') that I've tried my best to update -- it has a column to specify mac/windows programs. :)

[Drizzit]

I wish he would get rid of the adds

[Vyndree]

I wish he would get rid of the adds

Web hosting -- particularly when you've had to upgrade to a fully dedicated server thanks to the slashdot effect, is not cheap.

If you don't like the ads, you're welcome to donate ('https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=Donations%40dual%2dboxing%2ecom&item_name=Dual%2dboxing%2ecom&no_shipping=0&no_note=1&tax=0&currency_code=USD&lc=US&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF&charset=UTF%2d8') to offset the costs of hosting. I think until donations can cover the cost of hosting entirely, Ellay is likely to leave the ads up.

[Schwarz]

I think alot of people are looking to have their hand held. Taking some time and planning out everything that you want to do before you do it can actually save you alot of head ache. When I first found this site I spent close to 2 months and read almost every thread at that point before I started.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

How to fix the "problem" you've identified (or at least improve the situation):

1) Volunteer to reorganize some of the things you're having trouble finding yourself on the wiki,

or

2) Go to google and, in the search box, use the following syntax: site:dual-boxing.com <search terms>

I personally use 2 above. It wurks guud. :P And I've also (per option 1) availed myself of the wiki editing abilities to clean up a few articles and even add a tutorial for the software package I use. ;)

[robtest]

to the OP,

What did you eventually find that would have made getting to the low 20's faster than 4 hours??? Perhaps it would help someone else to know...

[pengwynman]

1) Volunteer to reorganize some of the things you're having trouble finding yourself on the wiki,
I'd rather play wow :rolleyes:

[Style1one]

Yes there is stuff that could help out with organizing, but at the same time being fairly new to the forum I have found that in reading post just going down the line I have found more info then what I had just thaught I needed to know. And with that having to ""search through 100 someodd pages for stuff"" I got way way more info out of the site then I could have being I read many many things I was compleatly unaware of. (Before reading that much I was convinced that you could only multibox with hardware, but found out that its now allot easyer to do it with software) Aswell as have ready stuff that has given me knowladge to what I believe has helped a small few amount of people.

Though when all is said and done, welcome.

[Tasty]

I wish he would get rid of the adds

Web hosting -- particularly when you've had to upgrade to a fully dedicated server thanks to the slashdot effect, is not cheap.

If you don't like the ads, you're welcome to donate ('https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=Donations%40dual%2dboxing%2ecom&item_name=Dual%2dboxing%2ecom&no_shipping=0&no_note=1&tax=0&currency_code=USD&lc=US&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF&charset=UTF%2d8') to offset the costs of hosting. I think until donations can cover the cost of hosting entirely, Ellay is likely to leave the ads up.

I asked how much it would cost but never got an answer :/

[Psybercop]

site:dual-boxing.com <search terms>

Sorry to go off topic, but that was pretty cool, I didn't know you could do that. I learned something today tyvm!

We now return you to the thread already in progress.

[Drizzit]

I wish he would get rid of the adds

Web hosting -- particularly when you've had to upgrade to a fully dedicated server thanks to the slashdot effect, is not cheap.

If you don't like the ads, you're welcome to donate ('https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=Donations%40dual%2dboxing%2ecom&item_name=Dual%2dboxing%2ecom&no_shipping=0&no_note=1&tax=0&currency_code=USD&lc=US&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF&charset=UTF%2d8') to offset the costs of hosting. I think until donations can cover the cost of hosting entirely, Ellay is likely to leave the ads up.

I didn't mean to sound like an ass. Re-reading what i wrote made me sound like that. I know that things are not cheap and in order to get ride of the ads i know you have to pay more. I could probably email ellay and ask him if i could do anything to help him out, but recently i have had a ton of stuff come up in real life. If there is anything that i can do to help the site i wouldn't mind helping out (Probably rearranging forum post), like go back to the old post and sort of file them in order.

Again didn't want to sound like an ass about my post... i know things cost money, just hate it when we talk about keeping everything with TOS and then i see an add of power lvling or gold selling on the site.

[Svpernova09]

Again didn't want to sound like an ass about my post... i know things cost money, just hate it when we talk about keeping everything with TOS and then i see an add of power lvling or gold selling on the site.If you see this, send Ellay a PM with the URL of the ad (shown on the bottom of the ad) ad he will get it removed from rotation. Unfortunately this is a manual process and can't be done on the front end. Blame google for that one.