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zanthor
10-23-2008, 05:28 AM
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon7000/7300/X7QCE.cfm

There ya go, one system to rule them all.

The board will only cost you $42,000 to max the ram out.

Ughmahedhurtz
10-23-2008, 07:39 AM
+1 for the quad processors and craploads of RAM.

-10 for running all that on the same old 1066 bus.

zanthor
10-23-2008, 07:51 AM
$4000 for each six core CPU... 24 cores, throw 2gb ram sticks in all 24 slots and a 16x PCI-Express video card (only 8 lanes available, teh suk) and you have a machine that can easily run all the copies of WoW at once...

I don't even want to imagine the overall cost of the thing, but it would be interesting to see none the less. I figured since Sam's got more dollars than sense he may be interested in it ;).

not5150
10-23-2008, 03:57 PM
Seriously, this would be a great technical feat if someone were to buy that machine, max it out and put lets say 20-30 WoWs on it.

It's one of those "shoot for the moon" type of things and would definitely make the news.

aboron
10-23-2008, 07:40 PM
Seriously, this would be a great technical feat if someone were to buy that machine, max it out and put lets say 20-30 WoWs on it.

It's one of those "shoot for the moon" type of things and would definitely make the news.

Maybe someone with an affiliation to a hardware review site could request some review samples... hint hint. (mobo, ram and cpus)

I'd be happy to volunteer to set up the software and multi-box increasing amounts of trial accounts until it broke.

elo
10-24-2008, 09:06 AM
Cost wise it's not really that far out, only need about a gig of RAM per instance.
But with only 1 PCI-Ex16 slot you'd only be able to get 2 monitors on it.
Really it screams VIRTUAL SERVER!!!

And like someone else mentioned, you've GOT to hit bus saturation with that at somepoint, and many more issues I'm sure.

not5150
10-24-2008, 09:51 AM
I think you should be fine with 500 MB per WoW instance. An uber graphics card should be able to handle all the instances.

Your big problem is drive thrashing if you're using regular hard drives. Of course, an SSD would solve that problem.

Prob get 30 WoWs on it without too much difficulty

Stabface
10-24-2008, 11:13 AM
That machine might just accidentally the whole internet.

Sam DeathWalker
11-01-2008, 07:20 PM
lol first time I saw this thread.

Look at my post comparing mb vs. ssd vs hdd vs ramdisk.

I can get 32G system with duel optrons for like $1500 (not the fastest optrons though, the slowest ones). Like was said that should do 30 wow's easy. 32 G ram is not costly now days at $12.50 a G ...

I don't think you have to worry about disk thrashing cause you dont need a page file with 32G ram, and you can load the entire wow folder into system ram with 20G left over ...

The question is: how do you control 30 wows with one monitor and one keyboard? Ya Keyclone will let you fire all at the same time but if you have to control just one? Also won't wow drop you thinking its a denial of service attack from one IP?

zanthor
11-01-2008, 09:59 PM
lol first time I saw this thread.

Look at my post comparing mb vs. ssd vs hdd vs ramdisk.

I can get 32G system with duel optrons for like $1500 (not the fastest optrons though, the slowest ones). Like was said that should do 30 wow's easy. 32 G ram is not costly now days at $12.50 a G ...

I don't think you have to worry about disk thrashing cause you dont need a page file with 32G ram, and you can load the entire wow folder into system ram with 20G left over ...

The question is: how do you control 30 wows with one monitor and one keyboard? Ya Keyclone will let you fire all at the same time but if you have to control just one? Also won't wow drop you thinking its a denial of service attack from one IP?You run all your machines from 1 IP as far as blizzard see's, unless you have all your machines on a public IP... it's called Network Address Translation... just about every college does it as well... so no, they won't think it's a DOS attack.

I could run 6x5 clients (30) on a single 22" screen with PIP swapping the focused client to a full 22" screen (1680x1050) and it would look/work fine.

Sam DeathWalker
11-02-2008, 12:53 AM
Well then it would seem on its face that a sinlge powerfull computer is cheaper and superior to 6 cheaper ones.

Is there another bottleneck that we are not considering when running 30 wows on a single machine.

You can have 30 tiled wows and then pick one to go to FS and then later go back to the 30 titled as you wish? Is that what you mean. Or do you mean alt tab between 6 groups of 5 with the 5 having 4 small windows and 1 large? And pip one of the 4 smalls to the big 1.

zanthor
11-02-2008, 01:52 AM
Well then it would seem on its face that a sinlge powerfull computer is cheaper and superior to 6 cheaper ones.

Is there another bottleneck that we are not considering when running 30 wows on a single machine.

You can have 30 tiled wows and then pick one to go to FS and then later go back to the 30 titled as you wish? Is that what you mean. Or do you mean alt tab between 6 groups of 5 with the 5 having 4 small windows and 1 large? And pip one of the 4 smalls to the big 1.Yea, it's called PIP and it's supported by just about everything out there for key broadcasting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J41Tx7CiNAA&feature=channel

That video is only 5 clients on 1 monitor, but I'm running mine on two monitors, if the system was beef enough I don't see why you couldn't run a very large number tiled and cycle them.

not5150
11-02-2008, 02:22 AM
Keyclone PiP rocks.... pretty quick switchover on my setup.

I have a main screen and 4 smaller screens on my single 1920X1200 monitor. My F8-F12 keys are bound to each WoW and will place a particular toon onto the main window. Takes about 1-2 seconds for the switch.

zanthor
11-02-2008, 03:25 AM
That video I linked is Innerspace using Windowsnapper, it takes 5ms to swap. Slowest i've seen is 30ms. Of course anyone chosing to use IS needs to do a lot more work to set it up.

Sam DeathWalker
11-02-2008, 03:38 AM
I never got keyclone to switch fast but that video is really really fast.

I alt tab with everything full screen and Im very close to that video, I should time my stuff sometime and video it also.

But that video is the way to go, but IS well I am sure Lax gots some plan up his sleeve.


So you would have 29 small tiles at the bottom and 1 big or would you umm have 6 groups of 4 small tiles and 1 big one? Even at 5ms you can't cycle though 29 screens very fast. Does that let you chose them with a mouse?

MaltheMM
11-05-2008, 04:59 PM
check this ('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambric') out 336 friggin' cores

tigger2577
11-05-2008, 06:54 PM
check this ('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambric') out 336 friggin' cores

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MaltheMM
11-05-2008, 07:51 PM
check this ('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambric') out 336 friggin' cores

MaltheMM, Can you please change you Avatar that is very inappropriate for this sitesure this is only my backup avatar as my primary just is too big for this site