Paladin Tanking macro

[BGuru]

I just started using this macro on my Pally to tank.

/startattack
/castsequence reset=9/combat/target Holy Shield, Hammer of the Righteous, Seal of Righteousness, Judgement of Light, Consecration

I am holding agro a lot better now but that could be because of the patch.

Anyone see anything I should change in the macro? I was thinking of taking the seal out and hot keying it separately.

Since the patch do Pallys still need 490 defense? I have read conflicting opinions on different forums.

Thanks,

[GizmoxLoW]

With the new patch im holding aggro so good i dont even use a seal half the time heck im even giving my shamans kings instead of salvation

but i spam this macro

/startattack
/castsequence [combat] reset=8 Consecration, holy shield, Hammer of the Righteous

since they all have a cooldown i dont worry about reset=target
i use seal of corruption since it dots the target with holy which does helps holding aggro by hitting each target a couple times to apply

but i rarely use it... cept on bosses then i judge it with judgment of wisdom

[Jheusse]

Some people use /castrandom instead of castsequence so that cooldowns don't prevent action, allows heavy button mash.

/startattack
/castrandom seal of righteousness , judgement, holy shield, consecration


From http://aztecknights.eu/macros2.htm which is a page that one of our boxers here set up, you'd have to dig to find his thread where he linked it

[antishadow]

heck im even giving my shamans kings instead of salvationIts a good thing too - salvation was removed. Scared the crap out of me the first instance I'd run. :-)

I too don't even seal. I just spam righteous hammer, and I don't even think I need to do that anymore.

[GizmoxLoW]

Some people use /castrandom instead of castsequence so that cooldowns don't prevent action, allows heavy button mash.

/startattack
/castrandom seal of righteousness , judgement, holy shield, consecration


What happens if the macro tries to cast judgment first without a seal? does the macro get stuck? plus casting seals and judgments burn through so much mana...reason why i have it on another key and just spam holy shield consecration and righteous hammer

[Jheusse]

Dunno, my 60 pally has been parked since before 3.0, while my shammy team levels with a buddy who is RAF linked to them on his pally.

Just pointing out the potential utility of the castrandom, it has some versatility. That link I gave you can see how he constructed his team overall.

Went and dug up the original thread Here ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=125629&highlight=aztecknights#post125629') .

[antishadow]

Some people use /castrandom instead of castsequence so that cooldowns don't prevent action, allows heavy button mash.

/startattack
/castrandom seal of righteousness , judgement, holy shield, consecration


What happens if the macro tries to cast judgment first without a seal? does the macro get stuck? plus casting seals and judgments burn through so much mana...reason why i have it on another key and just spam holy shield consecration and righteous hammercastrandom should skip any spell that it can't cast because its in cooldown or otherwise.

[Pringle]

If the randomly selected spell is on cooldown, the macro won't fire any spell. You'll get the spell not ready warning. This isn't a problem, however, because you're spamming this button. The next time you press it another spell, hopefully not on cooldown, will be selected and it will fire. Pre-patch, I was using a castsequence as it just felt like the better option. Now I use castrandom as the cooldowns just don't seem to line up in any reasonable pattern.

[Sarduci]

Cast random only picks from valid spells in the list. Anything on cooldown won't get picked.

Generally I start the beginning of my rotation by hand (AS, cons, hammer and then button mash) but I do not use /castrandom since I haven't had a need for it.

[Griznah]

Stop using seal in macros!!
Seals last 2 minutes now, no need to have them in the spam-macros.

[Los]

/startattack
/castsrandom Hammer of the Righteous, Judgement of Light, Consecration, Holy Shield

Something like that? allthough you could also add excorcism and holy nova (which also got to be instant <3)

[Aethon]

You guys are missing the bigger picture, castrandom judgement of light, crusader strike, hammer of justice, (2 or more, Divine Storm), (and if demon/undead) exorcism

Who needs a prot pally to tank anymore? pff just get 2 ret pallys :-P

I'm not that great as a pally, but my 62 and another 62 did a full regular ramps clear, no wipes, no heals (other then instant flash's) no 'tank.' Please, Blizzard, don't nerf ret pallys :-)

[Pringle]

Cast random only picks from valid spells in the list. Anything on cooldown won't get picked.
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. While tanking heroic SH last night, I was mashing my /castrandom macro and it would try to pick some of the spells on CD while my Holy Shield sat waiting to be cast for 4 or 5 pushes of the key. Maybe I'm missing something in my macro. I'm basically using:
/castsrandom Hammer of the Righteous, Judgement of Light, Consecration, Holy Shield

[Aethon]

Well, I didn't really see anything in this thread that said it was specificaly multiboxing he was talking about, but I'll let you know when/if I get 5 70 pallys. Probably not, but it'll be fun to try a full ret pally group at least once. Esp since judgements stack(4 judgement of light and 1 wis, with everyone using seal of light, probably get through all the trash in most heroics without much problems. or a need for a dedicated healer. And don't forget the Divine storm bit of healing.


Only stating 2 ret pallys was just in reference to my experience with another person in a group. I don't think you could do much higher then ramps if you were an equal level/gear to the instance with only 2 ret pallys (no tank/healer)


Now, I know ret aura stacks, if devo does too, you'll have as much armor (if not more) then 1 prot pally. Not the block rating, of course, but the damage mitigation from just armor should be pretty impressive. Of course, that is only if devo aura stacks.

[BGuru]

I am thinking of changing my macro to 2 macros.

First to help when I need extra heals:

/startattack
/castrandom Holy Shield, Hammer of the Righteous, Judgement of Light

Second for when I need extra mana regen:

/startattack
/castrandom Holy Shield, Hammer of the Righteous, Judgement of Wisdom

Then have the seals on their own separate buttons and consecrate on a separate button also.

Do you guys think it is better using the 2 macros and separate key binds?

I am starting to run out of keys though and might need to get an x-keys or hook up my N52.
I do use a G15 keyboards but don't use the G keys.

[Aethon]

you should be able to link them with a modifier (or nomod) something like /castrandom [modifier] Wisdom, spell, spell; Light, spell, spell -- What this *should* do is cast your Light sequence if no modifier is present, and if you hold down alt, ctrl or shift, then your Wisdom sequence.

[wowphreak]

Hmm that aint a bad idea :P

something along the lines of

/startattack
/castrandom Holy Shield, Hammer of the Righteous, [nomod] Judgement of Light, [mod:shift]Judgement of Wisdom,[mod:ctrl] Judgement of Justice

dont know if that works would be cool, dammit stuck at work at the moment cant test it :/

[Simulacra]

Just my opinion but:
I never bothered with macros on the pally, using xkeys pro you don't need em, especially now with 3.0 with the separate judgements and seals that last for 2 mins what would you need a macro for except for the mouseover cleanses/bubbles/righteous defense etc

Pull:
Seal of choice up - mouse clicked or buttoned
Captain America
Consecrate
Shield
JoL- no more reseal
the end.

So that's 5 buttons and funnily enough I have 4 fingers and a thumb on my xkeys pro. Now if that was in a macro then that's still 5 pushes of a button but in a macro you have no control of where you are or may lose track of where you are in the sequence. For simple grinding maybe, but for instances - well I might want to Cpt America again as soon as it's up or not even use Cpt America for this pull or deem it not necessary to Consecrate or whatever or righteous hammer (how do I love thee), I might want to do something different.

The tank is at the pointy end and needs the most flexibility, the tank is the char you are actually playing (most of the time - except for that guy who plays a priest with a tank up front >.<) the support team of course needs to be macroed, but the tank? - go separate buttons imho

[Heenan]

I have to agree with Simulacra on this one. I like seeing the cooldowns on each tanking option. Most of the time they are not on cooldown when I want them to be. I have something like this:

1: /startattack macro with an alt mod to throw Avenger's Shield
2: Seal of choice (Corruption or Righteousness) with an alt mod to throw Hammer of Wrath
3: Hammer of the Righteous and also casts Avenging Wrath
4: Holy Shield also pops trinkets
5: Consecration
6: Judge Wisdom/Light

So 3-5 is my main tank rotation, then my mages can do something like:

3: Scorch with Combustion, mod to frost or arcane
4: Fireball with trinkets, mod to frost or arcane
5: Fire blast, mod to frost or arcane

If I run into a fire resist/immune mob/boss, then I use the same rotation but hit my mod key for the mages to auto-switch to an arcane/frost rotation.

[Sarduci]

Cast random only picks from valid spells in the list. Anything on cooldown won't get picked.
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. While tanking heroic SH last night, I was mashing my /castrandom macro and it would try to pick some of the spells on CD while my Holy Shield sat waiting to be cast for 4 or 5 pushes of the key. Maybe I'm missing something in my macro. I'm basically using:
/castsrandom Hammer of the Righteous, Judgement of Light, Consecration, Holy ShieldAs far as I know, the only time that happens is when everything is on CD and nothing is valid. I used castrandom on my priest to use my fear ward while healing. I'd forget to use it since my eyes were glued to health bars.

[pinotnoir]

Bump cause I searched forever to find this.. DAMN the search ablity of the forums.

[Stabface]

I tanked Heroic SH on my T4 Ret Paladin, I had a rather /ninja T6 healer keeping me up but he didn't sweat much he says.

[Pact]

/use 13
/castrandom avenger's shield, Avenging Wrath, Hammer of Wrath, consecration, Judgement of Wisdom, Hammer of the Righteous, Holy shield, Excorism

And i also have the other key to put on which seal i want. Usually Righteousness. Sometimes you have to take consecration out. But for times like that i have it already bound to a mouseover click anyway.

Thats all i use on my pally when tanking. The shamans have their lightning bolt sequence mapped to the corresponing key.
I also have Hammer of Justice bound to the same key as their flame shock.

Havent ever had any aggro issues.

[SlayerX]

BUMP

[Tehtsuo]

/use 13
/castrandom avenger's shield, Avenging Wrath, Hammer of Wrath, consecration, Judgement of Wisdom, Hammer of the Righteous, Holy shield, Excorism

This is close to what I use, only difference is I have it go:

/cast holy shield
/cast random blah.blah.blah

this way holy shield is always up - never waiting for the "random" part to mess it up.And this works? Because when I tried this exact macro, it casts holy shield, then repeats one of the spells in the castrandom over and over. It never gets back to holy shield, and doesn't cast any of the other spells in castrandom. I don't understand why that's what it would do, but there you go.

[Bigfish]

1) multiboxing melee classes sucks


Gotta disagree there. Melee boxing is amazingly fun once you work out your spam macro.

[Ualaa]

Multi-boxing melee is harder then range, because follow breaks once auto-attack begins.
For range, this is no issue as they sit there and cast/shoot/pluck away.
For melee, once the first engages, you need to manually move each extra melee into place.

Imagine someone like Prepared with 25 ranged toons.
Imagine the same with a tank plus 24 melee.

Melee is doable, but ranged is a lot easier.

[wowphreak]

cut-n-pasted from another thread

this assume yer pulling with cap'n america style :P
and starting off with a seal

/castsequence reset=combat Holy Shield, Hammer of the Righteous, Judgement of Light,,Consecration, Hammer of the Righteous, Holy Shield,,Judgement of Light, Hammer of the Righteous, Consecration,

once yeh get shield of righteousness add it between the 2 commas and at the end

so far this has worked great for me

[Tehtsuo]

/use 13
/castrandom avenger's shield, Avenging Wrath, Hammer of Wrath, consecration, Judgement of Wisdom, Hammer of the Righteous, Holy shield, Excorism

This is close to what I use, only difference is I have it go:

/cast holy shield
/cast random blah.blah.blah

this way holy shield is always up - never waiting for the "random" part to mess it up.And this works? Because when I tried this exact macro, it casts holy shield, then repeats one of the spells in the castrandom over and over. It never gets back to holy shield, and doesn't cast any of the other spells in castrandom. I don't understand why that's what it would do, but there you go.

Looks like I misspoke. Here is the cut/paste of the macro I used. Just logged in to check:


/startattack
/castrandom Holy Shield, Hammer of the Righteous, Hammer of Wrath, Exorcism, Consecration, Divine Plea, Judgement of Wisdom
/use 13
/use 14


It works perfectly. :)Have you tried making a bar with all those abilities to make sure they all get used? I ask because that's word for word the macro I'm trying to get working. However, every pull I do it picks one of the spells to ignore, and refuses to cast that spell no matter how many times I hit the macro. Everything else will be on cooldown, and I'll have a full 3 seconds where I'm hitting the macro and it won't do anything. Many will claim that that's just the random number generator dropping a load on me, but as soon as one of the other spells comes off of cooldown, it gets casted near instantly after a press or two of the button. This is not just a coincidence, it will never cast that specific spell at all until you get out of combat and start your next pull, then it picks another spell with which to give the same treatment.

I'm wondering if Blizzard programmed in a forced unreliability to the /castrandom code to try to discourage people using long /castrandom macros. Needless to say, using this kind of macro can lead to some unfortunate pulls if it decides to ignore Holy Shield during a boss pull...

[Tehtsuo]

Have you tried making a bar with all those abilities to make sure they all get used? I ask because that's word for word the macro I'm trying to get working.

Yup. I eyeball them to make sure they figure.

Many times they don't fire off as quickly as I want them too, but they all fire. Keep in mind I'm am a button MASHER. I probably hit that sucker 5+ times a second. lolSame here, I'm like a machine gun. I think I'm going to take this up with the tech support forum at this point, and try to get past the initial "Random number generator is random" bullshit. I know how the RNG works, but this isn't random, it's demonstrably consistent.

[Lyonheart]

Fur, why no shield of righteousness in your macro? that thing is threat grabber extreme! Or you not 75 yet?

[Lyonheart]

Not 75 yet. I'm a slow leveler (stupid work taking up all my free time! lol )

lol. i hear ya. I just hit 77 this morning. SO many 80s already, I feel slow as well. But I have been keeping my trade skills up as well. 8) 80 will come soon enough.

Back on topic. I decided to keep SotR on its own hotkey. It great way to ensure fast single target threat. So if when i pull with AW and it SotR on the first mob to die and then spam the macro from there. I have opened up on the incoming target many times with my shaman and as long as I get the SotR on that target as it gets in range, I never lose agro. Even when that first target is heading to my shaman due to the LB spam before it gets to me.
That said, I'm sure it could be added to the cast random if someone wanted.

[Fizzler]

Try adding a comma at the end of the cast sequence to see if you get better results. I did that but have not had much time to test it out I have been having some hardware issues. From what I understand that comma is like a place holder and fires off when everything is on cool down.

[DgtlSorcrs]

I have found this to be effective:


/castsequence reset=60,target Seal of corruption, Judgement of wisdom, Holy Shield, Judgement of light, Holy Shield, Judgement of wisdom, Holy Shield, Judgement of light, Holy Shield, Judgement of wisdom, Holy Shield
/use Coren's Lucky Coin
/startattack

Basically, the seal of corruption on every new target means it rarely ever runs out, though I suppose it's not the most mana efficient. I used to just have /cast Holy Shield up first so it would always proc, but I noticed some issues with it on one of the recent patches, so I went to a loooong sequence that just alternates judgment of wisdom and judgement of light

The Coren's Lucky Coin can be replaced with Gnomergan Auto Blocker if you have that... but it has a 2 min CD, and lasts 20 sec... this arrangement allows it to pop every time it's up as long as everything else falls through. In practical terms, I use explicit keys for my pull and situational stuff (consecrate, exorcism, Holy Wrath, etc, and I have a "need more aggro" button that is just /castrandom Hammer of Righteousness, Shield of Righteousness that I start spamming if my slaves are creeping up on the aggro meter.

I ALWAYS put /startattack at the end of my spam macro so that if everything is on CD or I'm OOM, it at least makes sure I'm hitting SOMETHING

I really like some of the ideas here and may do some adjusting... this was just me sharing what has worked so far.

[Bigfish]

Multi-boxing melee is harder then range, because follow breaks once auto-attack begins.
For range, this is no issue as they sit there and cast/shoot/pluck away.
For melee, once the first engages, you need to manually move each extra melee into place.

Imagine someone like Prepared with 25 ranged toons.
Imagine the same with a tank plus 24 melee.

Melee is doable, but ranged is a lot easier.

All it really takes is including a /follow in your spam macro and knowing how to position and you're golden. (ie, strafe your main a yard or two, ) Its not about the fancy multiboxing tricks you can do, like a "bang you're dead" chain lightning button, or a revolving frost nova, blast wave, arcane explosion mage aoe of doom. Its about how effective you are at running content. Bottom line, there are a number of encounters where fluid melee are a prefereable option to static casters, especially now that most melee have a built in self-healing mechanic.

Anyway, my Paladin tanking macro looks like this for now:


/startattack
/castrandom consecrate,
/castrandom Seal of Righteousness ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
/castrandom Judgement of Wisdom, Avenger's Shield, Hammer of the Righteous, Hammer of Wrath, Cleanse, Holy Shield, Avenging wrath, Divine Plea

Will include Shield of Righteousness or whatever its called at 75, and I will probably switch out Judgement of Wisdom for Light, if the Nexus was any indication of where I'm headed with Melee boxing.

[Bigfish]

Have you thought about /castsequence? Get a good 45-60 second sequence going? I know someone was posting about something like that in another thread, something about "6969" and it using every global cooldown. Not that I advocate using every global cooldown, since its nice to have a few free so you can set up a castrandom afterward for self cleansing, divine plea, avenging wrath, and the like.

[Vicker]

Did a lot of instance grinding over the weekend - and mades some notes about how macros were performing.

In short, /castrandom sucks. I know this is opposite of what I've been saying forever, but I really noticed it this weekend. As a Prot Pally, you want Holy Shield up 100% of the time. Well, with a long castrandom macro, it won't be - because the stupid macro will be picking other things (including things that can't be cast).

I havnt' come up with a solution yet, but its on my mind. I may move to something like a warrior tanking macro:

/cast Holy Shield
/castrandom hammer of righteousness, judgement of (whatever), shield of righteousness

Excorcism, Hammer of Warth, and Divine Plea will probably get there own buttons. I may put Judgements on its own button as well.

This works on my Warrior with a slight modifiction:

/cast Shield Block
/castrandom [target=mouseover] devestate, revenge, shield bash
(glyph of sunder armory is mandatory for a warrior tank IMO)

I'm going to keep consecration / thunderclap off the castrandom macros to minimize the "random" choices the macro will attempt to make, thus improving the "spell not ready" problem. More micro managment, but I think it'll be better in the end. Castrandom isn't working out as well as I thought it was. :P

This will not work for a pally because holy shield is on global cooldown. That tactic works for a warrior because shield block is not on global cooldown.

Using wowphreak's macro should keep holy shield up pretty consistantly. His pre-75 version looked like

/castsequence reset=combat Holy Shield,Hammer of the Righteous,Judgement of Light,Consecration,Hammer of the Righteous,Holy Shield,Judgement of Light,Hammer of the Righteous,Consecration

I modified it a little bit to make it cleaner. I'm pretty sure this macro will use your holy shield every time the cooldown is ready. Taking out the shield of righteousnesses to make it pre-75 means that it's skipping a step in the 9696 sequence and not waiting an entire 9 seconds before going for holy shield. You can spam the crap out of this macro and it should cast holy shield every 8 seconds (which is the cooldown of holy shield).

I'm going to play around with this some more tonight. I'll let you know how that goes.

[Vicker]

The 6969 thing works best if you are only controlling a tank (not multiboxing). It doesn't work so well with you spam the macro imo.

Using wowphreak's macro makes 9696 mindless to implement. It's one button that works perfectly regardless of how much you mash it. Castsequences don't move on to the next spell until the spell before it has been successfully cast. For example,

/castsequence reset=combat spell1,spell2

Let's say spell1 has a 30 second cooldown and is cooling the first time you press the macro. It will keep trying to cast spell1 every time you press it until that 30 second cooldown is done and spell1 successfully casts. Until then, it will not move on to spell2.

[Boylston]

I'll probably dust off my Pally+4xShaman team this week for a bit... is this macro now the State of the Art for mashable, 1-button Pally tanking?


/castsequence reset=combat Holy Shield, Hammer of the Righteous,
Judgement of Light,,Consecration, Hammer of the Righteous, Holy
Shield,,Judgement of Light, Hammer of the Righteous, Consecration,



once yeh get shield of righteousness add it between the 2 commas and at the end Fursphere, what did you settle on?

[Greythan]

Bump.

I'm working on refining my spam paladin macro. Any further thoughts from those who were experimenting with the cast sequence and cast random ideas near the end of this thread?

[Bigfish]

Recently I decided to switch to a 96969 rotation, just because I had so many thing in my previous castrandom macro that it was starting to bog down what would fire off and cool downs were ending up finishing before something else was firing off, leading to abilities that may or may not have been firing like they should. Still needs tweeking though. Will probably include a /castrandom before the sequence to get off things like Divine Plea or Avenging Wrath, but ideally not bog down the macro to the point the sequence doesn't fire at all.

[sp000n]

So that's 5 buttons and funnily enough I have 4 fingers and a thumb on my xkeys pro. Now if that was in a macro then that's still 5 pushes of a button but in a macro you have no control of where you are or may lose track of where you are in the sequence. For simple grinding maybe, but for instances - well I might want to Cpt America again as soon as it's up or not even use Cpt America for this pull or deem it not necessary to Consecrate or whatever or righteous hammer (how do I love thee), I might want to do something different.

The tank is at the pointy end and needs the most flexibility, the tank is the char you are actually playing (most of the time - except for that guy who plays a priest with a tank up front >.<;) the support team of course needs to be macroed, but the tank? - go separate buttons imhoI agree with your main point that the tank requires the most flexibility. However, if all four fingers and your thumb are tied up by that tank, what exactly is left to go mashing for the DPS & healer macros? I'm struggling with that right now.

[elsegundo]

So that's 5 buttons and funnily enough I have 4 fingers and a thumb on my xkeys pro. Now if that was in a macro then that's still 5 pushes of a button but in a macro you have no control of where you are or may lose track of where you are in the sequence. For simple grinding maybe, but for instances - well I might want to Cpt America again as soon as it's up or not even use Cpt America for this pull or deem it not necessary to Consecrate or whatever or righteous hammer (how do I love thee), I might want to do something different.

The tank is at the pointy end and needs the most flexibility, the tank is the char you are actually playing (most of the time - except for that guy who plays a priest with a tank up front >.<;) the support team of course needs to be macroed, but the tank? - go separate buttons imhoI agree with your main point that the tank requires the most flexibility. However, if all four fingers and your thumb are tied up by that tank, what exactly is left to go mashing for the DPS & healer macros? I'm struggling with that right now.that's what alt/ctrl/shift are for.
i havent contributed to this thread simply because i dont use castrandom spams. but there you go. with the inclusion of alt/ctrl/shift, you dont have 4 buttons, you have 16.

and then you can add alt+ctrl, then alt+shift, then ctrl+shift, and that's 12 more buttons. total 28 possible combinations.

[Simulacra]

So that's 5 buttons and funnily enough I have 4 fingers and a thumb on my xkeys pro. Now if that was in a macro then that's still 5 pushes of a button but in a macro you have no control of where you are or may lose track of where you are in the sequence. For simple grinding maybe, but for instances - well I might want to Cpt America again as soon as it's up or not even use Cpt America for this pull or deem it not necessary to Consecrate or whatever or righteous hammer (how do I love thee), I might want to do something different.

The tank is at the pointy end and needs the most flexibility, the tank is the char you are actually playing (most of the time - except for that guy who plays a priest with a tank up front >.<;) the support team of course needs to be macroed, but the tank? - go separate buttons imhoI agree with your main point that the tank requires the most flexibility. However, if all four fingers and your thumb are tied up by that tank, what exactly is left to go mashing for the DPS & healer macros? I'm struggling with that right now.I have my shaman castrandom dps macro linked to 2 of my pally buttons - avenging wrath and shield, I mash these buttons all the time in instances. For grinding outside I just press the avenging wrath as the pally will only cast this on mobs with <30% health so it rarely even gets used, so no mana issues. The shammies will usually kill something with 2 presses of the button.My heals are on the 2 side buttons of my mouse, the forward button gets all shammies to heal the pally or the pallys target if friendly, the back button cast a self heal on the shammies - I dont use chain heal, I find that lesser healing wave from all shammies works fine as I can get between 9000-12000 health in one hit. A right click of the mouse wheel casts cl and a left mouse wheel a lb, I don't have cl in the dps macro. It's a pretty simple setup that allows me to concentrate on tanking.

[Khatovar]

Bump.

I'm working on refining my spam paladin macro. Any further thoughts from those who were experimenting with the cast sequence and cast random ideas near the end of this thread?

I don't play a tankadin, but I have been messing around a bit with castrandom and castsequence trying to figure out how to best abuse the crap out of my hunters {my main is a healadin, I haven't really got the luxury of manual weaving :( }.

With castsequence, I had no way to really account for procs, haste buffs made things messy, and I was really limited with some of my utility.

With castrandom, I had no control whatsoever, making DPS rotations a total mess, and my DPS was suffering from missing chimera shots.

Now, I'm using both. I have a castsequence that reads roughly /castsequence reset=target Hunter's Mark, * Sting, Chimera Shot {x6 or so, depending on the hunter} and a /castrandom Aimed shot, Steady Shot, Multi-shot, Tranquilizing Shot, Arcane Shot blah blah blah.

Then I use PAB to watch their cooldowns. Open up with a few presses of my castsequence button, spam the heck out of my castrandom until PAB shows my Chimera Shot popping. Not the most elegant or graceful solution, but it seems to get the job done.

[OogaJiggaWooga]

Bump

[Greythan]

Bump again.

Just dinged 80. Now, finally, truly, looking at refining my pally macro. Currently using a two button system with castrandoms. Just too many buttons. I need my primary taunting down to a single button.

Fur, et al.... any further thoughts on this thread?

[Starbuck_Jones]

One thing also to remember with a paladin is all of the tanking/agro/aoe spells are instant cast. That means the loss of DPS by using a castsequence over a cast random (lag confirmation delay) is removed because its done during the global cool down. I recently swiched from a cast random on my paladin to a cast sequence and its been a huge increase in dps and survivabilty by having holy shield up 100% of the time. Im not high enough level and havent speced a point in judgements to get a real 969 rotation but the one I did have when I fought a target dummy useing wisdom seal, judge and blessing allowed for a constant spam of about 9 minutes with a 4k mana pool before going oom. That and with all wisdom buffs it took about 40 seconds to just melee swing back to full mana. In real use I found that I never went oom or even close when pulling in an instance and I havent been in a fight against a single target boss that lasted 9min.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Someone needs to put a sticky someplace that castrandom DOES NOT skip spells that cannot cast or are on cooldown.

It picks a random spell and tries to cast it period, if it can't cast it for anyreason then it just does nothing on that key press.

[Greythan]

Sam, agreed. That comes up over and over again.

I think I'll just have to play with this. It really became pronounced last night. I tanked Heroic Gundrak with my pally solo (group of guildmates). I'm not quite 20k hp and just over the hitcap so I'm as squishy a heroic tank you'll find atm.

My smashing of three buttons to taunt really is almost too much overhead when playing solo. I've got to get a reliable, single button taunt macro set up.

I'm thinking I'm going to play with a 969 cast sequence macro.

[Simulacra]

any thoughts on this thread? uses /click with castrandom
Pally Macro using /click and castrandom ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=20278')
something I came up with over the last week or so, seems to work well as HS is always up and threat is fine.

[wowphreak]

/castsequence reset=combat Holy Shield, Hammer of the Righteous, Judgement of Light,Shield of Righteousness,Consecration, Hammer of the Righteous, Holy Shield,Shield of Righteousness,Judgement of Light, Hammer of the Righteous, Consecration,Shield of Righteousness

:P

[Simulacra]

/castsequence reset=combat Holy Shield, Hammer of the Righteous, Judgement of Light,Shield of Righteousness,Consecration, Hammer of the Righteous, Holy Shield,Shield of Righteousness,Judgement of Light, Hammer of the Righteous, Consecration,Shield of Righteousness

:P ;) nah that's too easy - I'll give it a go and compare against the rhino guy in gundrak