3.0 patch Shaman Talents

[DMC25]

With totem of wrath no longer stacking, how will people be speccing their shaman's. What I mean is if Shaman 1 gets totem of wrath, what talent will you be getting on Shaman 2,3,4,5?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

[suprafro]

I was planning on 5x 51/10/0

1 guy with ToW (no elemental oath)
1 guy with 3/3 Enhancing totems (he drops flametongue)
the 4 non-tow guys with elemental oath

fire totems:

1 tow, 1 flametongue, 3 searing/magma/nova depending

[Kicksome]

so does:
flametounge totem x1
falemtounge weapon (on shaman's weapon)
and
totem of wrath x1

all stack??

[suprafro]

From what I gathered, flametongue weapon stacks with ToW. I haven't confirmed but just going off what I've read

i would assume that flametongue weapon and flametongue totem are mutually exclusive as the totem just gives you the weapon buff like windfury totem. With 3/3 enchanced totems flametongue totem effect is 122 damage vs flametongue weapon buff at 124 damage.

Edit: i was thinking that the totem would be a better option then the flametongue weapon buff as I could use earthliving weapon buff as well...but I just realized that the totem would be giving me the flametongue weapon buff...

conclusion: fail

[Kicksome]

Ok, just checked. on the beta - both flametounge weapon and totem stack it looks like.

the totem just does flat out spell damage. the other imbues your weapon.

Wrath and weapon stack - I can't tell if wrath and flametounge totem stack though - I'll check it in a min.

[suprafro]

Wow, thats freaking awesome!!

[suprafro]

wow, thats freaking awesome!

[Kicksome]

ok:

Wrath and Flametounge totem do NOT stack.

also - you get a tiny bit more spell damage with wrath and 3% crit - that's it. Seems like a rip off for a 41 point talent.

[suprafro]

So 1 tow, 4 searing/nova/magma?

[SilverSlice]

i will speck mine with
1x totem of wrath
4x oath.

all 5 will have imp that self weapon enchant we elemental shammys will come to love from tomorrow on.
sorry i can not remember the name of that one right now

i am however unsure on the usefullness of the talentpoints in physical damage reduction and nature,fire and so on. reduction earlier on in the tree "for pve"
those talentpoints can be put in improved totem dps to help even out the odds a bit.

Silver

[puppychow]

Here are the things I can confirm:

Multiple Flametongue TOTEMS do not stack. So only drop 1 per group.
Flametongue TOTEM does stack with Flametongue WEAPON. So every shaman should flametongue weapon (+96 spell dmg). I have it as part of my macro for water shield self-buffing, aka every 10 minutes (one less button :)
Mana totem does stack. So every shaman I have drops mana spring, one drops healing stream.
Healing Stream totem does not seem to stack.
Totem of wrath does not stack, so only spec 1 shaman with it. The rest of my shamans drop Searing Totem (Fire Nova is nice, but would need to spam it too much to be that useful)
I drop 3 Grounding Totems and 1 Wrath of Air Totem, and redrop them as needed.
I am currently running prot pally + 4 elemental, may switch one back to resto and Earthliving instead of Flametongue.

[puppychow]

I just did my daily heroic mech run (still need 3 totems... sigh) and wow... 3.0 really made prot pallies shine and ele shammies buff. First, for those who have 3 ele + 1 resto, I'd say forget it for now, just make 4 elemental. My pally barely needed any heals in heroic mech, I'm going to go run magisters terrace later tonite or tomorrow and see how that is without a healer. Prot pally threat gen is INSANE now, usually I wait 4-10 seconds before DPSing or one of my shamans will pull; now I can start DPSing instantly without a problem.

Searing totem is also awesome now, it just spams little fireballs pretty far away, pretty funny to see it in action actually. As many have said, mana is totally crazy now, never had to drink whereas previously pretty much every fight required my pally to drink. I don't even really bother tanking anymore, just spam consecrate (same button as lb on my shamans) and maybe occasionally holy shield, hammer, or hammer righteous.

The little demons are as dangerous as ever, everything on the pally is instant now which is awesome (shield, holy wrath, etc). I haven't used thunderstorm yet, afraid I'll knock mobs into another pack lol

[Schwarz]

Here are the things I can confirm:

Multiple Flametongue TOTEMS do not stack. So only drop 1 per group.
Flametongue TOTEM does stack with Flametongue WEAPON. So every shaman should flametongue weapon (+96 spell dmg). I have it as part of my macro for water shield self-buffing, aka every 10 minutes (one less button :)
Mana totem does stack. So every shaman I have drops mana spring, one drops healing stream.
Healing Stream totem does not seem to stack.
Totem of wrath does not stack, so only spec 1 shaman with it. The rest of my shamans drop Searing Totem (Fire Nova is nice, but would need to spam it too much to be that useful)
I drop 3 Grounding Totems and 1 Wrath of Air Totem, and redrop them as needed.
I am currently running prot pally + 4 elemental, may switch one back to resto and Earthliving instead of Flametongue.did you mean to say Totem of wrath? I have not seen Flametongue totem and Flametongue wep stack.