Sam DeathWalker going to 36 Box WoW (from current 26), and 24 Box EQ!

[Sam DeathWalker]

As you all know I currently 24 BoX EQ:

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=133048

As you also know I 26 BoX WoW and Mr. Prepared is well ... slaughtering me badly to be honest.

Although I have 50 total MMO accounts to his 36.

So time to move up to 36 BoX to at least equal him in WoW accounts!

Reducing my Screen Resolutions now to 1024 X 786 on all but the main computer (1600 X 1200 so thats its also 4:3), and upgrading all secondary computers to AMD X2 5600's, Asus 8300 based AM2 motherboards, 3 gig ram on each (won't see any extra with 4G anyways), still will stay with Win2K, Hopefully I can run 7 accounts on 5 computers and 1 on the main for 36 total. Right now 4 of them are amd 3700 in a 939 soc MB.

Not sure how I will handle the RAF but probably be serial (a invite b invite c etc) again. Also I am working on moving to a quest based game as all here have suggested.

Ill post again here when the computers are all built, and on www.samdeathwalker.com ('http://www.samdeathwalker.com/') !

[mikekim]

its not a competition on who can run the most accounts at once, you would be better off learning the game with a smaller number of characters. but hey its your money and who am i to tell you how to spend it.

[Sam DeathWalker]

True, but one would assume that with more accounts one would be able to kill stronger mobs.

[Xzin]

If you can't beat em, join em?

[feralia]

yeah join him^^ ....
OMG 72 Player ... raid whatever city you want :D

WANNA SEE THIS ON A VID !!!!

:D

[Ziran]

Well considering all the "worthwile" PvE stuff is in 10 and 25 mans why bother going beyond 25 ?
As for PvP it looks like all the "worthwile" rewards are moving to 5 man arenas in WotLK so again why more ?

Ziran

[Bigfish]

Well considering all the "worthwile" PvE stuff is in 10 and 25 mans why bother going beyond 25 ?
As for PvP it looks like all the "worthwile" rewards are moving to 5 man arenas in WotLK so again why more ?

Ziran

Some men aren't looking for anything rational. Some men just want to watch the world (of warcraft) burn.

[valkry]

The only tough mobs outside an instance (which has limited spots) can be easily 10 manned (atm its kazzak, doomwalker)

[Tasty]

As you all know I currently 24 BoX EQ:

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/…topic_id=133048


First time I've seen that mentioned ;)

[asonimie]

Le sigh.... It would be so beneficial to level up and achieve something as a boxer in WoW. More Chars != Greater Achievement. But I know from a roommate that knows you from EQ that you aren't open to reason :P

I hope when it's all said and done you get some enjoyment out of this setup. Warcraft isn't all about no rules world pvp like EQ is.

Good luck tho!

[valkry]

fark man, you may as well buy another computer or 2 and upgrade to 40 accounts seeing as 40 is the max number of people allowed in a raid. Then you will dominate the server and everyone will be in awe of your mad boxing skills and the stranglehold you will have over the opposing faction!

[Sam DeathWalker]

I absolutly agree that more characters by themselves doesn't mean much. As I have stated anyone who can kill a mob higher then level 25 (my best so far) is better in WoW then I am.

Well I not planning to take a back seat to anyone so we will see how it goes. Of course looking at results so far its not going to well for me ......

So how does WinterGrasp look in Beta as far as world pvp goes?

[valkry]

From what I have heard, it's lame and still needs tweaking. I'm looking forward to that zone too so lets hope they make it better...

[glo]

I absolutly agree that more characters by themselves doesn't mean much. As I have stated anyone who can kill a mob higher then level 25 (my best so far) is better in WoW then I am.

Well I not planning to take a back seat to anyone so we will see how it goes. Of course looking at results so far its not going to well for me ......

So how does WinterGrasp look in Beta as far as world pvp goes?

It's still in beta and needs some work. By the time you level it will have be a low level zone nobody visits anymore.

[Mono]

So time to move up to 36 BoX to at least equal him in WoW accounts!

Reducing my Screen Resolutions now to 1024 X 786 on all but the main computer (1600 X 1200 so thats its also 4:3), and upgrading all secondary computers to AMD X2 5600's, Asus 8300 based AM2 motherboards, 3 gig ram on each (won't see any extra with 4G anyways), still will stay with Win2K, Hopefully I can run 7 accounts on 5 computers and 1 on the main for 36 total. Right now 4 of them are amd 3700 in a 939 soc MB.
This is getting a bit silly :S

[valkry]

So time to move up to 36 BoX to at least equal him in WoW accounts!

Reducing my Screen Resolutions now to 1024 X 786 on all but the main computer (1600 X 1200 so thats its also 4:3), and upgrading all secondary computers to AMD X2 5600's, Asus 8300 based AM2 motherboards, 3 gig ram on each (won't see any extra with 4G anyways), still will stay with Win2K, Hopefully I can run 7 accounts on 5 computers and 1 on the main for 36 total. Right now 4 of them are amd 3700 in a 939 soc MB.
This is getting a bit silly :S
That's what single boxers say about quin boxers, and we laugh non-stop about their ignorance/jealousy because they can't do it themselves and because they think it's stupid to "waste" money on a game, even though we enjoy it...do you see where I am going with this?

[Tasty]

So time to move up to 36 BoX to at least equal him in WoW accounts!

Reducing my Screen Resolutions now to 1024 X 786 on all but the main computer (1600 X 1200 so thats its also 4:3), and upgrading all secondary computers to AMD X2 5600's, Asus 8300 based AM2 motherboards, 3 gig ram on each (won't see any extra with 4G anyways), still will stay with Win2K, Hopefully I can run 7 accounts on 5 computers and 1 on the main for 36 total. Right now 4 of them are amd 3700 in a 939 soc MB.
This is getting a bit silly :S
That's what single boxers say about quin boxers, and we laugh non-stop about their ignorance/jealousy because they can't do it themselves and because they think it's stupid to "waste" money on a game, even though we enjoy it...do you see where I am going with this?

I think he meant its silly in relation to the fact that its more like a competition than anything else. Or I could be totally wrong I'm not too sure.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well it is competition, surely if Prepared did not exist I would stop at 26 ...

But competition is what makes everyone strive higher.

[Tasty]

Well it is competition, surely if Prepared did not exist I would stop at 26 ...

But competition is what makes everyone strive higher.

If you and prepared have decided that you want to compete against each other who am I to judge?

[glo]

Well it is competition, surely if Prepared did not exist I would stop at 26 ...

But competition is what makes everyone strive higher.

Wonder if Prepared knows he is in a competition.

I have an idea for a competition, details Monday night when I get home.

[Tasty]

Well it is competition, surely if Prepared did not exist I would stop at 26 ...

But competition is what makes everyone strive higher.

Wonder if Prepared knows he is in a competition.

I have an idea for a competition, details Monday night when I get home.

Its going to be a tough competition. I hope he's 'Prepared'


Ooooh yes I went there didn't I :D

[Ruodhaid]

Wtb a movie of you soloing hogger whit 36 level 1 toons !

I take it as you are new to wow you dont know what a hogger raid is, but youtube it :)

[valkry]

I like watching the failed Hogger raids lol.

[Moorea]

You could flush your money down the toilet and it would be about same. you should learn the game before you 36 box...

[valkry]

You could flush your money down the toilet and it would be about same. you should learn the game before you 36 box...
haha, someone said something liek that to me the other day in eots, it was more like "no wonder you multibox, you are shit so when you singlebox you must get wtfpwned." This coming from the guy who was last for ally in all cats. whereas I was actually trying to help win the game.

Not much to learn about this game anyway...you get gear upgrades, you do some dmg, you do some heals, you run out of the fire...done.

[Ruodhaid]

You could flush your money down the toilet and it would be about same. you should learn the game before you 36 box...'

... you do the exact same thing, and flame him for it ? he just have the money to do 36 you dont, but i gess you just had someone say that to you ingame and you wantet to be like him and postet it here?

[valkry]

You could flush your money down the toilet and it would be about same. you should learn the game before you 36 box...'

... you do the exact same thing, and flame him for it ? he just have the money to do 36 you dont, but i gess you just had someone say that to you ingame and you wantet to be like him and postet it here?
Exactly the point I have been trying to make lol.

[Tasty]

Exactly the point I have been trying to make

Well then next time, you should think hard about what you want to say, then send Ruodhaid.


;)

[valkry]

Maybe I will lol, but I like being more subtle, it opens the way for...

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/gatinau/fry-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

[Tasty]

Maybe I will lol, but I like being more subtle, it opens the way for...

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/gatinau/fry-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/what-you-did-there-i-see-it.thumbnail.jpg

[valkry]

lol, always love seeing new pics :P

[Moorea]

My point was that he is miserably failing at 26x boxing and so instead of increasing the number of players he should first learn the game - I already told him numerous times he should level a raf duo or maximum a x5 team to 60 before trying to tackle 26x at a time. but hey... if you want to think I'm envious... think what you want and encourage him to flush more down the toilet... why not 100x boxing ?

[Tasty]

My point was that he is miserably failing at 26x boxing and so instead of increasing the number of players he should first learn the game - I already told him numerous times he should level a raf duo or maximum a x5 team to 60 before trying to tackle 26x at a time. but hey... if you want to think I'm envious... think what you want and encourage him to flush more down the toilet... why not 100x boxing ?

So basically he didn't listen to you and you're having a fit.


My point was that he is miserably failing

If he's enjoying himself how can he be failing? Lets ask him if he's enjoying himself shall we?

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well technically you could say I am "failing" if you figure I should be way ahead of where I am now. At one time Furor was way ahead of me in EQ, where is he now? Im setting up a strong foundation on which to build. Im spending 2X times the time setting up UI and computers and stuffs then actually playing, and when I play a good portion of my time is trade skilling (I have all professions cept fishing and first aid).

Today I spend over 6 hours resetting all my UI (to the 4:3 resolutions on all computers), moving bars around, rewriting keyclone.ini and cloning the WTF folder 4 or 5 times X 26 lol ... Normally I would just copy the Macro files over but I did a full redo today and thats a real mess. Clicking the sound off 25 times.. Loading Pitbull and Dominos and the combat report thing profiles 25 times ... Using a new bag add on which looks nice.

Just look at my EQ guys and imagine how long it took to get to their level AND their AA, and how many mobs I'v killed to do it. WoW won't take me 1/10th the time. Man if I had full auto follow in EQ like I have here ... and a class that can heal and do dps and rez .... lol.

And in AOK I killed the equivilent of 100,000 French Horse Knights (we figured it out once)... I'm not called DeathWalker fur nothing!

Well back to Tranquillity in Ghostlands to do the level 12 quests in the guide. Oh and I just got concecration (level 20) on my Pal ... woot thats gonna cut down on some deaths.

[Xenostar]

I play on the same server as Sam, and it's kinda cool to seem him play. It may not be the fastest, it may not be the best. But if I had the money and time, I can't say I wouldn't try it. True he's new to the game and there is a learning curve, he's got to get over that on his own. We don't need to put him down, there are plenty of single boxers that bash us all day long without us doing it to each other.

That being said, Sam, you need to learn to take a little advice. I've leveled 5 druids to 35 then a single druid 60 to 70, and 5 warlocks to 35+ since you've started (questing.) I want to see you succeed, We all do, because if you make a bad name for yourself, you give us all a bad name. Like it or not you've become a spokesman for multiboxers. If you cause problems for blizzard we're all likely to see some Eula changes. I must thank you personally though, you've taken a lot of attention off my teams, as I just tell them to /who samdeathwk and they run off to see you, and leave me alone. :D

I was reading one of your posts and you were RAFing in a chain 1-->2-->3-->4..ect right? Have you thought about using the granted levels to your advantage? Like if you leveled all your accounts to 10 and stopped. Then took the last account in the chain and leveled it to 20, you could grant 10 levels to the next account, making it level 20. Then take that account and give 10 levels to the 3rd account, making it level 20. And so on... 20 is just an example. I know you need to learn the game and all, but in my opinion there are few differences between classes until you have a handful of talent points and spells to play with. Maybe just give yourself a bit of a bump to 20 or 30, or whenever you get stuck on a leveling hump. There is plenty of grinding/leveling to come to learn the game. And pvp will teach more than any amount of mobs will. Anyway, hit me up in game if you need any help, or more dynamite ;) on my druid Lunartricks.

-xenostar

[Haruko]

I play on the same server as Sam, and it's kinda cool to seem him play. It may not be the fastest, it may not be the best. But if I had the money and time, I can't say I wouldn't try it. True he's new to the game and there is a learning curve, he's got to get over that on his own. We don't need to put him down, there are plenty of single boxers that bash us all day long without us doing it to each other.

That being said, Sam, you need to learn to take a little advice. I've leveled 5 druids to 35 then a single druid 60 to 70, and 5 warlocks to 35+ since you've started (questing.) I want to see you succeed, We all do, because if you make a bad name for yourself, you give us all a bad name. Like it or not you've become a spokesman for multiboxers. If you cause problems for blizzard we're all likely to see some Eula changes. I must thank you personally though, you've taken a lot of attention off my teams, as I just tell them to /who samdeathwk and they run off to see you, and leave me alone. :D

I was reading one of your posts and you were RAFing in a chain 1-->2-->3-->4..ect right? Have you thought about using the granted levels to your advantage? Like if you leveled all your accounts to 10 and stopped. Then took the last account in the chain and leveled it to 20, you could grant 10 levels to the next account, making it level 20. Then take that account and give 10 levels to the 3rd account, making it level 20. And so on... 20 is just an example. I know you need to learn the game and all, but in my opinion there are few differences between classes until you have a handful of talent points and spells to play with. Maybe just give yourself a bit of a bump to 20 or 30, or whenever you get stuck on a leveling hump. There is plenty of grinding/leveling to come to learn the game. And pvp will teach more than any amount of mobs will. Anyway, hit me up in game if you need any help, or more dynamite ;) on my druid Lunartricks.

-xenostar

This man should be the Forum spokesman. With Vyndree as the defender & this man as the Spokeman; we could end up as a WoW UN.

Anyways; Sam I congratulate you on this decision, just remember "It's not how you start things in life, but how you finish them." So never lose track of that & let the passion burn on homie, let it burn on. :thumbup:

[Prepared]

Well it is competition, surely if Prepared did not exist I would stop at 26 ...

But competition is what makes everyone strive higher.

Wonder if Prepared knows he is in a competition.

I have an idea for a competition, details Monday night when I get home.

No, actually, I didn't know I was in a competition. I've been busy leveling my alts lately. My shaman have stopped at level 61 for the moment so I could get 16 of my alts to level 61 which they've done. Now I've been working on 32 warlocks that I'm planning to take to level 17, then 16 of those will make level 32 to be up with the level 32 mages and priests. I have 16 level 32 mages and priests that are on the recruited accounts.

It's interesting that Sam seems to always post what he's going to do before he does it. I usually don't do that because it doesn't make sense to post something in my opinion for something that hasn't happened yet. Having said that, I've been thinking about more accounts anyway because of my initiative to take out the other faction on my realm. I will post the number of accounts once I've got them all set up. :) I will say as a hint, it is possible to go to 60 accounts with my financial stability right now. I've been thinking about how it would be done. Am I in a competition? Not to me, because I was planning to do these things long ago even before I asked how many the most boxxed characters was. I was actually quite surprised to find out that when I was thinking about doing 15 that was the top at the time. Back then, I was thinking about how to do 60 accounts and still believe it's possible especially with recruit-a-friend now. The only major issue is that it just takes a long time to get them all to maximum level and I don't like being behind on a PvP realm as most of you know that play on one...

One thing I have observed however is that Sam levels very slowly. I'm on my 3rd set of characters that I'm leveling up and I'm almost up to Sams level and he's only working on 25 characters at the moment where I'm working on 32. 4 of my level 70's that are on separate accounts, I don't work on. And the other 5 level 70's that I have on the same shaman accounts, I use them for daily quests to get money for the mounts, etc. If I were to guess, I would say Sam is playing a lot more on Everquest than he is on WoW. Mainly because Everquest has a new expansion out that increases the level cap and will leave Sam behind in that game which he has played a lot.

By the way, my 32 Everquest accounts are still active right now. About to expire, but I never counted the Guild Wars accounts that I have that all have level 20 max characters on them. Don't know if that matters since it's not a paid mmorpg, but I have 11 separate accounts that I have played over the years. Not much lately, but occassionally start it up and have a battle here or there.

The game that I'm really looking forward to is Guild Wars 2. It's supposed to be a full MMORPG geared to PvP battles and not have a subscription fee. The game and expansions are how they make their money. They don't really have a GM population, but they do ban accounts that are breaking their rules. And yes, Octopus works with Guild Wars except for the mouse which isn't really necessary anyway. Hoping that it will work with Guild Wars 2 also. But no, I'm not giving up WoW even when Guild Wars 2 is released because I'm fairly confident that it won't be as boxxing friendly as WoW.

So there you have it, 60 WoW accounts incoming! :)
With 36 right now, I only need another 24 accounts. :rolleyes:
I am planning to go with them once Blizzard releases a combined all-inclusive expansion game pack.

By the way, thanks Xzin for sending your private message about all those links about me on the Internet. I didn't know about any of that. When they see my 3 high x 5 wide widescreen monitors all running 4 copies, they'll really wonder what the heck I'm doing... :D

[Zub]

ok, so if it is a competition, when does it end? when can we vote a winner?
if this an endurance competition and we get to vote in 5 years?

[Zub]

it's just funny reading sam.. it's like reading a 5year old with lots of money.
You can do whatever you want with you cash Sam, we all do, but really this all epeen thing is just .. how to say.. ow well pathetic I guess.
I'd love to see you with your accuonts at max level, but i can't see it happening any time soon.

ow and one last thing, glory comes to those that achieve great things. Not those that say they are going to achieve great things.

[Schwarz]

Sam/Prepared

Once you get into these epic battles are you equiped to capture video? It would really be a shame to not share some of this with the community.

[Xzin]

Well it is competition, surely if Prepared did not exist I would stop at 26 ...

Hells bells, why stop at 36 then? Go to 100. $1500 per month is nothing, right? Set it up to do 5 per computer - only need 20 computers. So only $10000 worth of computers. 70 amps or so of power, or about $7 an hour. $3000 per month there. Plus the accounts...

Nevermind the fact that you would have 3 raids and nevermind the fact there is no practicality. Nevermind the fact that leveling up would be a pain or that you would have to automate EVERYTHING through macros, etc. And you can't automate everything. You would spend more time just rezzing yourself than anything else. Lets not get started on bandwidth issues (easily overcome though). And cooling.

But in wide scale PVP.... you would level everything. And still get a few picked off. Unless you ran into Prepared.. or another 5 boxer. Who could take out a good amount of your crew if they got a jump on you. Heck, what if somebody rolled a 40 box of mages just to AoE you down. It's not like you are swift and mobile with that many.

I have 5 boxed. I have 10 boxed. I have thought very seriously about 40 boxing. At the point we are talking about, the effort goes up to a ridiculous level and the rewards are about the same. I see little point in going much beyond where Prepared is. I could MAYBE see 40. MAYBE. But beyond that? Why?

But this bump to 36 is the most blatant e-peen waving match I have ever seen.

But it might be worth it if you could one shot buildings in Winterspring :)

[Frosty]

All these comments remind me of a story.

I was drinking (a LOT) of beer with a friend of mine at his house one night when his wife told him:
“You don’t have to drink so fast, it’s not a race!”.
I leaned over and said “She just wants you to lose the race!”

I wasn’t welcome back over there for a while. :P

But I do agree with most of you. These threads are getting to be more like a little kid saying “Look what I can do!”

If it really makes you happy to do it, then do it. You don’t need our approval for it.
For me, 5 is enough to let me enjoy the game the way I want too.

[Zseth]

Does anyone care that Sam is doing this now?



Maybe if he had some proof that he was accomplishing something with it, but saying that you are and then not backing it up is just plain stupid.



BTW sam, your site sucks, improve it before you link to it ever again.

[Skuggomann]

My wow is bigger than your wow.

/sigh

I feel your pain, you complete me <3

[Bradster]

My wow is bigger than your wow.

/sigh

I feel your pain, you complete me <3Skuggormann stop humping the laser

[Ughmahedhurtz]

This is a game forum, right? Sam's playing a game and having run, right? Why the hate? If you think it's stupid or "ell ohh ell" or pathetic, why not apply a modicum of self-control and not click that "Reply" button?

Anyway, rock on, Sam and Prepared. You guys definitely need to post some video from your exploits. ;)

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well I doubt I am going past 36 for sure. I dont have a way to add more then 6 computers total and 7 instances is going to be hard enough as it is.

No Im not playing EQ, but with the Econ crisis I have to spend more time on RL stuffs so I don't have any problems, but I am doing well there.

Ive moved to a quest model from a kill everything that moves so we will see how it goes, doing quests in Ghostland right now. Hopefully that will speed up my leveling. And as stated I have to build 4 more computers soon (ordering the parts in the next few days).

Well Im annoucing in advance to take advantage of the sudden site visitor explosion....

I am set up to do videos of all my gaming, just need the time to set stuff up. My samdeathwalker.com site is getting like

http://samdeathwalker.com/webalizer/usage_200810.html#DAYSTATS

3700 hits yesterday, and there is nothing on it lol ... Well there is my rl picture.

I have to get everything together and put some decent content up.

There is just to much to do.



Here is where a lot of my hits (and the hits here) are coming from:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17929134&page=2

[Vunpac]

people may think it's silly or even a wast of money.. but do you stay well entertained sam? with 36 chars I'm sure you won't have time for a dull moment :P and hell if te moneys not a problem then your getting your worth.

[Vunpac]

This is a game forum, right? Sam's playing a game and having run, right? Why the hate? If you think it's stupid or "ell ohh ell" or pathetic, why not apply a modicum of self-control and not click that "Reply" button?

Anyway, rock on, Sam and Prepared. You guys definitely need to post some video from your exploits. ;)damn you and my slow typing! thats right I blame you for this!

[Mono]

But this bump to 36 is the most blatant e-peen waving match I have ever seen.
This.

I'm rather conflicted on the topic myself, I admire anyone willing to push the limits but simultaneously find the obvious motive cringeworthy.

I dunno. I wish you the best of luck nonetheless.

[Zub]

This is a game forum, right? Sam's playing a game and having run, right? Why the hate? If you think it's stupid or "ell ohh ell" or pathetic, why not apply a modicum of self-control and not click that "Reply" button?

Anyway, rock on, Sam and Prepared. You guys definitely need to post some video from your exploits. ;)
I think most people (including me) have no problem with Sam doing 26, 36 or 61 toons.. heck i'm kinda amazed at people who do so successfully, like prepared for example, or all the guys who 10 box instances.

What i do not like, and to what i react, is the infantile boasting of yet-to-accomplish grand achievements. you can't buy fame, you actually need to do something do deserve it.
i just wish i could have seen Sam's face when he read that Prepared was thinking of upgrading to 60 accounts. Reminds of of those little kids doing stupid things trying to look like the cool guys, and failing miserably. it's highly amusing.


I'm thinking of doing the same thing:
ZUB IS CLIMBING THE HIMALAYAS IN HIS UNDIES.
Starting in December. Have already removed one sock.

[Tasty]

Have already removed one sock.

Thats hot. Keep us posted ;)

[Zseth]

In light of the annoucement of beginning to box 60 accounts, i have decided to up that one more.



I will be the first multiboxer to box himself.

http://ktismatics.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/fight-self.png

GOD DAMN IT ITS ALREADY BEEN DONE

[Haruko]

Does anyone care that Sam is doing this now?



Maybe if he had some proof that he was accomplishing something with it, but saying that you are and then not backing it up is just plain stupid.



BTW sam, your site sucks, improve it before you link to it ever again.

Whatever I have in bold, was way uncalled for. A simple suggestion would've been fine, but in that manner you seem like a child which you are not. :thumbdown:

[Moorea]

if you do click the link to sam's site - things start to make more sense... (be ready for a shock though, not for the faint of heart)

[Mono]

if you do click the link to sam's site - things start to make more sense... (be ready for a shock though, not for the faint of heart) http://uk.gizmodo.com/bush-shock.jpg

[glo]

Does anyone care that Sam is doing this now?



Maybe if he had some proof that he was accomplishing something with it, but saying that you are and then not backing it up is just plain stupid.



BTW sam, your site sucks, improve it before you link to it ever again.

Whatever I have in bold, was way uncalled for. A simple suggestion would've been fine, but in that manner you seem like a child which you are not. :thumbdown:

Everyone that has seen the page thought the same thing, he was just the one that posted it. Don't worry about Sam, he is completely oblivious and resistant to any type of criticism, constructive or otherwise.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Lol my site has 6000 hits two days running and thats with Zero content ....

[glo]

Lol my site has 6000 hits two days running and thats with Zero content ....

So do you think it is the quality of your 0 content or just curious people clicking from here and running into some amazing dissapointment?

[Mono]

amazing dissapointment?I wouldn't say it's a disappointment. An amazing something for sure though...

[Haruko]

I've seen what is I guess not to be seen ?( still, lets not be downright rude about the guy.

[Ken]

Im spending 2X times the time setting up UI and computers and stuffs then actually playing, and when I play a good portion of my time is trade skilling (I have all professions cept fishing and first aid).
Are you implying that spending more time on interface setup is good? :P


Today I spend over 6 hours resetting all my UI (to the 4:3 resolutions on all computers), moving bars around, rewriting keyclone.ini and cloning the WTF folder 4 or 5 times X 26 lol ... Normally I would just copy the Macro files over but I did a full redo today and thats a real mess. Clicking the sound off 25 times.. Loading Pitbull and Dominos and the combat report thing profiles 25 times ... Using a new bag add on which looks nice.

Why are you doing it the difficult way again?
You shouldn't be spending so many hours on all this configuration. Why don't you spend some money on a NAS(Network Attached Storage) server and install WoW 1 time on this NAS. Then all clients load via a gigabit network connection from the shared NAS.

Then you can use a scripting language (or just a batch file like I do) to copy the account settings(lua files etc.) from 1 root account (that you decided) in the WTF folder to all the other WTF account folders.
Stuff like clicking the sound off is not a problem as those settings would be shared if you would go with the NAS setup.

This:
- Saves you a lot of time configuring addon settings
- Saves you a lot of time configuring WoW clients
- Saves you a lot of loading time(but that depends on your NAS speed of course)
- Makes it easy to backup all your clients at once
- Costs a bit, because you need a separate computer with a decent NAS (raid?) solution.... but any desktop PC with a decent network card, a gigabit switch and a good RAID setup(not that onboard motherboard sh*t) should do the trick.

The cool thing about the NAS is that you can attach *any* PC to run 1 or more clients from it... so if one of your machines break down, it is very easy to load some of those clients on the other machines (if their hardware can take it) without any additional installation required.


Just look at my EQ guys and imagine how long it took to get to their level AND their AA, and how many mobs I'v killed to do it. WoW won't take me 1/10th the time. Man if I had full auto follow in EQ like I have here ... and a class that can heal and do dps and rez .... lol.

And in AOK I killed the equivilent of 100,000 French Horse Knights (we figured it out once)... I'm not called DeathWalker fur nothing!

Well back to Tranquillity in Ghostlands to do the level 12 quests in the guide. Oh and I just got concecration (level 20) on my Pal ... woot thats gonna cut down on some deaths.
EQ is not WoW :)

[Leon]

Lol my site has 6000 hits two days running and thats with Zero content ....People are curious to see if what your ego claims is true, and go away thusly disappointed

[Zub]

my site has 6000 hits two days running and thats with Zero content ....
That's alot of people laughing at you ;-)

The thing is, there is something weirdly addictive about this thread.. people can't stop watching. Not because amazing things have been achieved, more because of the weirdness/facepalm effect.
A bit like watching someone eating dog poo. It's disgusting, but we can't keep staring.


ZUB IS CLIMBING THE HIMALAYAS IN HIS UNDIES.
Starting in December. Have already removed one sock.
- AMAZING UPDATE! i should be removing the second sock mid-october if all goes well

[Xar]

LOL Zub...

Well my reply to this thread got eaten by the traffic problems yesterday. Good luck to you Sam but I just don't see how it will be very enjoyable. There's so much to WoW other than just brute force killing stuff and not sure if you'll ever see it in that mode. Plus it takes a lot to just keep my 5 shaman stocked up with consumables, reagents, repaired, all that stuff, any more and it would just be irritating to me.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Then you can use a scripting language (or just a batch file like I do) to copy the account settings(lua files etc.) from 1 root account (that you decided) in the WTF folder to all the other WTF account folders.
Stuff like clicking the sound off is not a problem as those settings would be shared if you would go with the NAS setup.

This:
- Saves you a lot of time configuring addon settings
- Saves you a lot of time configuring WoW clients
- Saves you a lot of loading time(but that depends on your NAS speed of course)
- Makes it easy to backup all your clients at once
- Costs a bit, because you need a separate computer with a decent NAS (raid?) solution.... but any desktop PC with a decent network card, a gigabit switch and a good RAID setup(not that onboard motherboard sh*t) should do the trick.


I do have batch program to copy files from one computer to the other 5. Unfortunatly I have 5 accounts on each of the other 5 ... Also just cloning the wtf folder still dosnt work if you have add ons, some key bindings and add on settings are not stored there. Also if you dont have the same screen resolutions layouts dont just simply scale if you set say plus 100 for a buff bar position and you just copy the files over to a screen that is smaller resolution it still uses the 100 offset and not a downscalled offset. I supposed I could have 26 account directories in the main computer and clone one account to the other 25 and then run out all 25 to each of the 5 computers.

Do you have a link to what is stored where. Are you saying that if you copy all the lau files in the entire WoW directory that you would then get all layout information for all add ons also? Where is the settings that you set on the blizzard "interface" menus located, like auto loot and help files and all that you set.

I clone my hard drives with acronics so I dont have OS problems anymore, get a few blue screens and just replace the whole drive.

[Xzin]

Sam,

Prepared was featured on the front page of yahoo.com ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=15008').

Thoughts?

[Suvega]

Sam,

Prepared was featured on the front page of yahoo.com ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=15008').

Thoughts?
If you want to "beat" prepared, you shoudl do the following:

Roll a class that is actualyl OP with 40 of them (Mages).

Roll 40 of them.

Don't talk about them until they are 70

Do something interesting other then just throwing money at a problem.

Actually learn the game you are trying to play before proclaiming any bit of supuriority.

[Xzin]

40 Mages would be overkill. Plus squishy. I would do something like 8 shammys and 32 warlocks.

Massive AoE and healing. Toss in some priests if you really want.. but that would also come with 32 pets. That is a LOT of counterspells!

Heck, just sit around with your pets out and let the pets one shot people.

[Suvega]

Honestly groups of 4 mages and a priest specced CoH would be good.

CoH through the dmg (which hits all raid targets now), and then if someone gets within aoe range, one arcane explosion will be around 30k dmg.

Then have each group have a targeting macro that targets a section of the alphabet, like group 1 targets a-g (/tar a /tar b /tar c). That way you never have all 35 dps targeting one target.

[Suvega]

40 Mages would be overkill. Plus squishy. I would do something like 8 shammys and 32 warlocks.

Massive AoE and healing. Toss in some priests if you really want.. but that would also come with 32 pets. That is a LOT of counterspells!

Heck, just sit around with your pets out and let the pets one shot people.

You should look at the warlock changes ;). Pet abilities changed.

Also warlock aoe would be teribad, its all targetted, either by a person (Seed), or ground targetd (rain of fire), or you hurt yourself (hellfire).

Mages are far superior, Arcane Explosion, Blast Wave, etc. Plus arcane barrage is really OP. (living bomb is fun too, and water eles would be raaaape).

Plus, the thought of hitting mirror image one 36 mages sounds naughty. no?

[merujo]

Get ready Sam, im going 80 box this xmas.

[Zub]

If you want to "beat" prepared, you shoudl do the following:

Roll a class that is actualyl OP with 40 of them (Mages).

Roll 40 of them.

Don't talk about them until they are 70

Do something interesting other then just throwing money at a problem.

Actually learn the game you are trying to play before proclaiming any bit of supuriority.
Exactly. I've highlighted the important bits

[Xzin]

LOL @ the prospect of mirror image times up to 36.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Looks like I have to stop replying to fast ...

Anyway goodby lag:

* FOR CUSTOMER'S REFERENCE ONLY *
* FOR CUSTOMER'S REFERENCE ONLY *

BILLING ADDRESS SHIPPING ADDRESS


items shipped from SJ
Telephone: 408-578-3579



10/15/08 SJ-Delivery MALABS CASH

10/15/08 DIAN X209 1537 -35

QTY ITEM DESCRIPTION U. PRC ITEM PRC

12 12 0 T800UB2GC4 STT DDR2-800 2G/128X8 CL4 26.00 312.00

6 6 0 ADO-5600DO ATHLON64 5600 DUALCORE AM2 OEM 72.50 435.00
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6 6 0 MB-M3N78VM AS/AM2+/GF8200/DR2/H.SLI/G/R/H 72.50 435.00

2 2 0 GA-96GT5OC 9600GT 512M DDR3 2DVI OC 119.00 238.00

1 1 0 XXXX HANDLING

Went kind "on the cheap" for the 8200 motherboard and the 5600 duel cores (but as the socket is AM2plus 140 watt so I can upgrade later when prices drop) but going all the way for the 9600GT (with a slight OC) on all computers (waiting for 3 more to get to stock). NOTE there are NO fans on the video card or the motherboard! Cant do SLI with these boards but they have the 1066 memeory buss to 8 G (Ill only have 4G though for now untill I move up from Win2000) so they are very upgradable.



Oh and got two of these also:

http://www.thermaltakestore.com/

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-14439688585988_2024_8000607 ('http://www.thermaltakestore.com/toughpower-cable-management-w0106ru-refurbished-pro0106.html')


Toughpower Cable Management 700W W0106RU (Refurbished Product) ('http://www.thermaltakestore.com/toughpower-cable-management-w0106ru-refurbished-pro0106.html')

$89.99

So I got the Themaltake Big Typhoon cpu fan (120), and a 140 fan in the power supply for a SUPER QUITE system.



Who get da deals! Me!

[Xzin]

No fans = hot processors. Until cooling becomes silent or not needed, you need to cool your GPUs. If the noise is an issue, relocate or extend the computers or enclose them in fiberglass/drywall/etc and make sure you vent or cool accordingly.

[Nisch]

I have the capacity to 40 box...........but I don't feel the need to participate in the pissing contest currently underway. :love:

[Sam DeathWalker]

Based on extensive lab testing and previous graphics card development, the GIGABYTE VGA engineering group has designed a revolutionary new VGA card cooling technology which utilizes natural convection inside the chassis to disperse heat. GIGABYTE’s Multi-Core™ Technology utilizes a series of ultra-thin layered fins with nodes of copper to add more cooling points on the heat pipes. Increasing the heat conduction ratio and enhancing overall thermal performance, GIGABYTE’s Multi-Core™ Technology delivers outstanding thermal performance with no fan noise.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/VGA/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2863

These video cards just dont require fans ... They have a huge heat sink on them with heat pipes.

Right now sandra reports all my temps (cpu main and aux) under 53 C. Not super, but high temps just shorten the life of your components and I upgrade before they fail anyway. And thats with ONLY the power supply fan and the CPU fan (my drives make more noise then the rest does lol).

[Anahka]

Looks like I have to stop replying to fast ...

Anyway goodby lag:

<snip>

Who get da deals! Me!

Amazing. You tossed away more money at this little project. You spent weeks if not months on a UI. You wave all this e-peen around.

But did you actually accomplish anything so far? Other then annoy most of this community that is. EQ accomplishments don't count.

As has been said, get to 70/80, do something worth noting and then post about it.

[Zub]

my site has 6000 hits two days running and thats with Zero content ....
That's alot of people laughing at you ;-)

The thing is, there is something weirdly addictive about this thread.. people can't stop watching. Not because amazing things have been achieved, more because of the weirdness/facepalm effect.
A bit like watching someone eating dog poo. It's disgusting, but we can't keep staring.


ZUB IS CLIMBING THE HIMALAYAS IN HIS UNDIES.
Starting in December. Have already removed one sock.
- AMAZING UPDATE! i should be removing the second sock mid-october if all goes well
AMAZING UPDATE NUMBAH TWO! ROXORSi bought a bow tie matching my undies for when i do my awesome number 1 climb of the himalayas in my undies. I hope you all love me. If not I guess i'll try and post pics of me in a loincloth.

[Xzin]

If the cards are specifically designed with huge heat pipes and passive cooling and your temps stay low enough with 100% constant load then great. I would still be slightly weary of it but if it works don't knock it.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Put up some pics on my site and linked from there to here at duel-boxing.com

www.samdeathwalker.com ('http://www.samdeathwalker.com/')

Now I once again have to re do my UI as all the addons have updated since the patch .... looks like a lot of the old settings have been saved though so it should go a lot faster.

[TheXevs]

Put up some pics on my site and linked from there to here at duel-boxing.com

www.samdeathwalker.com ('http://www.samdeathwalker.com/')

Now I once again have to re do my UI as all the addons have updated since the patch .... looks like a lot of the old settings have been saved though so it should go a lot faster.

I thought having a half dozen icons on my desktop made me feel unorganized...

-Xeva

[TheXevs]

I've been tempted since reading the fascinating progress of Sam to roll 5 gnome mages and go 'observe (fraps) his progress'. Surely this has crossed someone elses mind...25 searing totems would certainly be a deterrent to said observation. Should would be a shame if someone didn't do any quests or more probably had no clue as to what a fire totem was, wouldn't it.

-Xeva

[valkry]

ZOMG, Sam is on my battlegroup...hmm.

[Zub]

I've been tempted since reading the fascinating progress of Sam to roll 5 gnome mages and go 'observe (fraps) his progress'. Surely this has crossed someone elses mind...25 searing totems would certainly be a deterrent to said observation. Should would be a shame if someone didn't do any quests or more probably had no clue as to what a fire totem was, wouldn't it.

-Xeva
A couple things that go against that tho:
- Sam is still newb level so he probably hasnt left the non-pvp areas yet.
- Sam is redoing his UI, downloading new addons, and taking more pictures of himself in loincloth so can't play at the moment

[Ifalna]

- Sam is redoing his UI, downloading new addons, and taking more pictures of himself in loincloth so can't play at the momentAuuuuuuugh my fucking eyes.


Why did I click and look.

[Anemo]

How are all those hours of UI editing looking after 3.0.2? lol

[Sam DeathWalker]

What a joke, should have just waited, but I think I got it sorted out today. Learned about the config.wtf file today...

Still next step is to get the new computers up and running and get rid of lag.

Ya did the addon thing.

Dominos, Pitbull, hitmode, arkbags (whatever) and the quest stuffs is ok.

Tintan mehhh, Sellomatic (not working), informat down, enchant something and snappy or something not gtg either.

Anyway Dominos and Pitbull and the bread and butter stuffs and if they are ok then its good to go.

OMG: 14,000 hits at samdeathwalker.com yesterday.

Day Hits Files Pages Visits Sites KBytes

1 573 1.05% 471 0.94% 26 1.19% 19 1.30% 21 1.31% 1921 0.58%
2 812 1.48% 782 1.57% 42 1.92% 28 1.91% 32 2.00% 3272 0.99%
3 1164 2.12% 1117 2.24% 60 2.74% 40 2.73% 44 2.74% 4448 1.34%
4 365 0.67% 347 0.70% 20 0.91% 14 0.95% 31 1.93% 1818 0.55%
5 2000 3.65% 1754 3.52% 87 3.98% 52 3.55% 71 4.43% 7290 2.20%
6 843 1.54% 813 1.63% 28 1.28% 23 1.57% 36 2.25% 3213 0.97%
7 765 1.40% 729 1.46% 36 1.65% 27 1.84% 63 3.93% 3006 0.91%
8 3338 6.09% 3156 6.33% 141 6.44% 97 6.62% 100 6.24% 11959 3.61%
9 1602 2.92% 1519 3.05% 68 3.11% 44 3.00% 107 6.67% 7165 2.16%
10 862 1.57% 824 1.65% 39 1.78% 31 2.11% 53 3.31% 4121 1.24%
11 1783 3.25% 1637 3.28% 82 3.75% 50 3.41% 56 3.49% 6440 1.94%
12 6182 11.29% 5824 11.68% 272 12.43% 164 11.19% 191 11.92% 22869 6.90%
13 7444 13.59% 7011 14.06% 323 14.76% 208 14.19% 267 16.66% 28623 8.64%
14 5842 10.66% 5417 10.87% 249 11.38% 163 11.12% 176 10.98% 23809 7.19%
15 7166 13.08% 6690 13.42% 278 12.71% 190 12.96% 202 12.60% 25104 7.58%
16 14038 25.63% 11759 23.59% 437 19.97% 317 21.62% 299 18.65% 176223 53.19%

[Zub]

1 573 1.05% 471 0.94% 26 1.19% 19 1.30% 21 1.31% 1921 0.58%
2 812 1.48% 782 1.57% 42 1.92% 28 1.91% 32 2.00% 3272 0.99%
3 1164 2.12% 1117 2.24% 60 2.74% 40 2.73% 44 2.74% 4448 1.34%
4 365 0.67% 347 0.70% 20 0.91% 14 0.95% 31 1.93% 1818 0.55%
5 2000 3.65% 1754 3.52% 87 3.98% 52 3.55% 71 4.43% 7290 2.20%
6 843 1.54% 813 1.63% 28 1.28% 23 1.57% 36 2.25% 3213 0.97%
7 765 1.40% 729 1.46% 36 1.65% 27 1.84% 63 3.93% 3006 0.91%
8 3338 6.09% 3156 6.33% 141 6.44% 97 6.62% 100 6.24% 11959 3.61%
9 1602 2.92% 1519 3.05% 68 3.11% 44 3.00% 107 6.67% 7165 2.16%
10 862 1.57% 824 1.65% 39 1.78% 31 2.11% 53 3.31% 4121 1.24%
11 1783 3.25% 1637 3.28% 82 3.75% 50 3.41% 56 3.49% 6440 1.94%
12 6182 11.29% 5824 11.68% 272 12.43% 164 11.19% 191 11.92% 22869 6.90%
13 7444 13.59% 7011 14.06% 323 14.76% 208 14.19% 267 16.66% 28623 8.64%
14 5842 10.66% 5417 10.87% 249 11.38% 163 11.12% 176 10.98% 23809 7.19%
15 7166 13.08% 6690 13.42% 278 12.71% 190 12.96% 202 12.60% 25104 7.58%
16 14038 25.63% 11759 23.59% 437 19.97% 317 21.62% 299 18.65% 176223 53.19%

AMAZING! you must be so e-proud

[glo]

1 573 1.05% 471 0.94% 26 1.19% 19 1.30% 21 1.31% 1921 0.58%
2 812 1.48% 782 1.57% 42 1.92% 28 1.91% 32 2.00% 3272 0.99%
3 1164 2.12% 1117 2.24% 60 2.74% 40 2.73% 44 2.74% 4448 1.34%
4 365 0.67% 347 0.70% 20 0.91% 14 0.95% 31 1.93% 1818 0.55%
5 2000 3.65% 1754 3.52% 87 3.98% 52 3.55% 71 4.43% 7290 2.20%
6 843 1.54% 813 1.63% 28 1.28% 23 1.57% 36 2.25% 3213 0.97%
7 765 1.40% 729 1.46% 36 1.65% 27 1.84% 63 3.93% 3006 0.91%
8 3338 6.09% 3156 6.33% 141 6.44% 97 6.62% 100 6.24% 11959 3.61%
9 1602 2.92% 1519 3.05% 68 3.11% 44 3.00% 107 6.67% 7165 2.16%
10 862 1.57% 824 1.65% 39 1.78% 31 2.11% 53 3.31% 4121 1.24%
11 1783 3.25% 1637 3.28% 82 3.75% 50 3.41% 56 3.49% 6440 1.94%
12 6182 11.29% 5824 11.68% 272 12.43% 164 11.19% 191 11.92% 22869 6.90%
13 7444 13.59% 7011 14.06% 323 14.76% 208 14.19% 267 16.66% 28623 8.64%
14 5842 10.66% 5417 10.87% 249 11.38% 163 11.12% 176 10.98% 23809 7.19%
15 7166 13.08% 6690 13.42% 278 12.71% 190 12.96% 202 12.60% 25104 7.58%
16 14038 25.63% 11759 23.59% 437 19.97% 317 21.62% 299 18.65% 176223 53.19%

AMAZING! you must be so e-proud

The funny part is he is getting all those hits because of news articles about Prepared who he thinks he is in some kind of competition with.

[glo]

Put up some pics on my site and linked from there to here at duel-boxing.com

www.samdeathwalker.com ('http://www.samdeathwalker.com/')

Now I once again have to re do my UI as all the addons have updated since the patch .... looks like a lot of the old settings have been saved though so it should go a lot faster.

I thought having a half dozen icons on my desktop made me feel unorganized...

-Xeva

I've worked on thousands of windows machines and I thought only the geriatrics had desktops that looked like that. My desktops don't even have the recycling bin icon that actually takes a few seconds to get rid of. Seems weird that a boxer has such a disorganized computer.

[merujo]

think u guys are abusing the bashing thing a bit. thats just the way he is, let him be. i find it amusing as well, but constantly bashing him with comments like e-proud, and ur so leet, omgomg, just start to be annoying.

[Zseth]

abusing? F-that, he puts to shame anyone who boxes. oh look at me look at me. The guy says he was redoing UI yet he can't even do basic HTML?



Frankly, this thread needs to be removed from the general discussion somewhere else and/or locked as all it does is serve as an e-peen throwing around of someone who only makes the stereotype about us worse.

[Zub]

think u guys are abusing the bashing thing a bit. thats just the way he is, let him be. i find it amusing as well, but constantly bashing him with comments like e-proud, and ur so leet, omgomg, just start to be annoying.
i said nothing wrong, he IS e-proud of that pile of numbers.

[Xzin]

14k hits isn't impressive if everybody who loads a page is loading 1000 items.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Hey ya I was wondering about that you mean that 14,000 hits is NOT unique visitors, but the number of items downloaded?

[Hachoo]

Wow the hate is strong in this thread...

A few of you are really making yourselves look like 10 year olds. I mean come on, hes not insulting you, why are you insulting him? Because he is waving his e-peen? So what? Are you so childish that you can't just ignore it and move on? Its fine if you don't agree with it, but posting that you don't agree with it, and then following that up with insults, makes you look like an idiot and/or a child.

Frankly after reading this thread I'm ashamed MUCH more of the dual-boxing community then of Sam. There are quite a few people now that I no longer have the desire to speak to, help out, or communicate with in any way after reading this thread, as they remind me more of the posters on forums.worldofwarcraft.com than anywhere else.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I wouldn't hold anything against other posters. Obviously if someone walks into your town and stands on the highest hill and says "Im the BEST!" (or I guess in this case "I'm 2nd best but at some point in the future Ill be the best, maybe!") there is sure to be some contentious replies, just look at the post on the FOH boards, everyone here is extrememly polite by comparrison. If I give out trash talk I have to be able to take some (a lot) in return. There is not a single forum I have ever posted on where I didnt get flamed. On bad thing about wow is you can't talk to your oppenents lol ...

You didnt read the missing posts in this thread either lol .....

[oxxo]

Wow the hate is strong in this thread...

A few of you are really making yourselves look like 10 year olds. I mean come on, hes not insulting you, why are you insulting him? Because he is waving his e-peen? So what? Are you so childish that you can't just ignore it and move on? Its fine if you don't agree with it, but posting that you don't agree with it, and then following that up with insults, makes you look like an idiot and/or a child.

Frankly after reading this thread I'm ashamed MUCH more of the dual-boxing community then of Sam. There are quite a few people now that I no longer have the desire to speak to, help out, or communicate with in any way after reading this thread, as they remind me more of the posters on forums.worldofwarcraft.com than anywhere else.I'm not.

He's done absolutely nothing but talk talk talk.
He needs to shut it.
Learn the game.
And actually make it to 70(80)

[badashh]

being the best != paying the most money

accomplish something, anything.

[Zub]

Are you so childish that you can't just ignore it and move on? Its fine if you don't agree with it, but posting that you don't agree with it, and then following that up with insults, makes you look like an idiot and/or a child.

i guess this can apply to people who don't like the replies as well ;-)
I think i've stayed clear from the insults (could have slipped one, but i usually don't), i find it much funnier to do stupid comments regarding his posts.


bviously if someone walks into your town and stands on the highest hill and says "Im the BEST!" (or I guess in this case "I'm 2nd best but at some point in the future Ill be the best, maybe!") there is sure to be some contentious replies
particularly if he does is for 2 months straight, without any sort of achievement during that time.


There is not a single forum I have ever posted on where I didnt get flamed.
That's weird, you really sound like a mature, friendly, modest guy. Cant see why people would want to handle saracsm around you.

[Zub]

being the best != paying the most money

accomplish something, anything.
Given the level of HTML skills displayed on the loincloth website, i doubt Sam understands that '!=' means 'not equal'. He probably thinks you made a typo :-)

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well can't do everything at once. Im sure I could make the web site a lot better but like everyone here says I should be leveling to accomplish something, and they are right. So instead of writing HTLM Ill be leveling (after I get the new computers running...). Well my UI is where I want it, I just hope it copies over without some screw up, besides by the time my new computers are up the add ons I use will probably be updated.

Well had to post what I could, as the 36 boxer wave isnt going to last forever.... anything said now gets a lot of exposure.




That's weird, you really sound like a mature, friendly, modest guy.

Yes I am probably the most modest person in the world. In fact no one can beat me at modesty.

[Xzin]

Hire somebody to make the website?

[Tasty]

Yes I am probably the most modest person in the world. In fact no one can beat me at modesty.

Okay you win. You actually made me laugh with that one :P

[TheBigBB]

Wow the hate is strong in this thread...

A few of you are really making yourselves look like 10 year olds. I mean come on, hes not insulting you, why are you insulting him? Because he is waving his e-peen? So what? Are you so childish that you can't just ignore it and move on? Its fine if you don't agree with it, but posting that you don't agree with it, and then following that up with insults, makes you look like an idiot and/or a child.

Frankly after reading this thread I'm ashamed MUCH more of the dual-boxing community then of Sam. There are quite a few people now that I no longer have the desire to speak to, help out, or communicate with in any way after reading this thread, as they remind me more of the posters on forums.worldofwarcraft.com than anywhere else.I agree that there's a BIT much hate in here, but you're kind of being hypocritical by insulting people right back. I don't think it means anything to say that someone looked like a child. Explaining why something is bad is plenty good enough. You don't need to say it was something a 10 year old would do. Also, I think many people are coming down hard on him because they're worried he's going to become some kind of internet spokesperson for multiboxers, which would be bad considering he actually hasn't played the game before now. Besides, I think Sam welcomes this stuff, as long as people are keeping up with him and he can challenge himself to prove people wrong.

[Zub]

Besides, I think Sam welcomes this stuff, as long as people are keeping up with him and he can challenge himself to prove people wrong.
As long as this thread gets more replies/ views than the prepared one, Sam will be plenty happy.

[Gomotron]

Yes I am probably the most modest person in the world. In fact no one can beat me at modesty.

Okay you win. You actually made me laugh with that one :P+1 :D

[valkry]

All I can say is, with my years of experience of trolling forums, especially the wow forums...Sam would have to be the most successful troll I have ever seen. I have never ever seen a troll pull so much hate/flames as him.

Congratulations, you are actually the best at something...I'm not joking either, exceptional troll /bow.

[Xzin]

Sam, you are already losing. Prepared now has 40 accounts.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Im 24 in EQ and 26 in WoW ....

[Tasty]

What happens if you get to a point where financially or for other reasons obtaining more accounts is out of the question?

[Zub]

Im 24 in EQ and 26 in WoW ....

as far as i know, Prep still has his EQ toons.

[valkry]

EQ is over, it doesn't count anymore.

Oh, I didn't think I'd go there, but I guess I did!

[Tasty]

EQ is over, it doesn't count anymore.

Oh, I didn't think I'd go there, but I guess I did!

Did you see that everyone, he went there. Consider this the confirmation of his going :P

[Sam DeathWalker]

as far as i know, Prep still has his EQ toons



He is letting them die, so he can spend more money on his wow accounts.

And no matter, I can kill a higher level mob with my guys then he can with his, even if he has more, my guys are way better.

So if I move to Warhammer then WoW dosn't count anymore?

I won EQ, he is winning WoW (by a lot). Call it as you will.



My limit, before I read up on SSD stuff here today, was 7 per computer (X 5 computers). Looking at the SSD stuff people are posting (i.e. wow does not write during game play) seems that there is no actual limit on instances per computer (or it is way higher then 7), if you use a SSD. And surely wow only writes to the WTF folder anyways ... let me look hold on, whatever it seems true there is very minimal writing... I bet if you dont use a log parser... anyway you can symlink to a raptor for folders that might write (if any).

Use a raid with two of these for 200MB/S ...

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NAND Flash: MLC
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Corect me if I am wrong but isnst 120MB/s (max) about equal to a raptor:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/HDD-SATA-VelociRaptor,1914-10.html

124MB/s (max).

Lol with a raid on two of the SSD drives (about $360) you would have access of like .1ms and a potential sustained read rate of TWICE a velo raptor. (probably your buss would saturate, well not a sata2 buss ... humm). Well thats just silly one should be enough.

[Leon]

Im 24 in EQ and 26 in WoW ....A combined total doesn't count - they are two different games
Also what did you get for "winning" EQ, aside of attention

[Sam DeathWalker]

Same thing you get when you make a new level or get a new item or win a pvp or pve battle in WoW.





Plus attention.

[Tasty]

Same thing you get when you make a new level or get a new item or win a pvp or pve battle in WoW

Pixels? :D

[Sam DeathWalker]

And I get to post:



Only the PROUD or the FOOLISH dare to challenge the MIGHTY DEATHWALKER!

[Zub]

Found some fast respawning mobs in outland Sam, although it would be stupid to grind those instead of quests, i'll still give you the info : Gor'gaz outpost - Coords 45, 74 in hellfire peninsula. Mobs are 62-63. They are all mellee mobs it seems (at least 90%)
There were 2 of us (elem shaman 61 + feral druid 63) killing them for a quest (needing 20) and the mobs were respawning on us as we were killing them.

If you're still in your EQ mindset when you reach outlands, have a go at those.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Good work thanx.

[Zub]

I won EQ, he is winning WoW (by a lot). Call it as you will.
one does not declare the winner himself. Particularly when one is the only one knowing he is in a competition.

and yes, in wow you are just a big spender at the moment.
and for the Nth time, there is no "higher level mob" concept in wow.

and finally, if you compare a mass-boxer killing a boss by 'himself' with 25 toons, or a group of 5 single-boxers killing the same toon with 5 toons, which do you think is/are the more powerful?

[Sam DeathWalker]

As an individual the single person is more powerfull then the 5 as if it takes a guild to beat me, then thats my point. Clearly if it takes 5 individual single toon people to beat your 5 box set up, you are more powerfull then any single on of them.

What all end game encounters are of equal difficulty in WoW, how can that be? Surely some are harder then others.

[valkry]

I won EQ, he is winning WoW (by a lot). Call it as you will.
one does not declare the winner himself. Particularly when one is the only one knowing he is in a competition.

and yes, in wow you are just a big spender at the moment.
and for the Nth time, there is no "higher level mob" concept in wow.

and finally, if you compare a mass-boxer killing a boss by 'himself' with 25 toons, or a group of 5 single-boxers killing the same toon with 5 toons, which do you think is/are the more powerful?
For the bolded part...have you not raided at all? Each raid is a "level" harder than the previous.

[Zub]

I won EQ, he is winning WoW (by a lot). Call it as you will.
one does not declare the winner himself. Particularly when one is the only one knowing he is in a competition.

and yes, in wow you are just a big spender at the moment.
and for the Nth time, there is no "higher level mob" concept in wow.

and finally, if you compare a mass-boxer killing a boss by 'himself' with 25 toons, or a group of 5 single-boxers killing the same toon with 5 toons, which do you think is/are the more powerful?
For the bolded part...have you not raided at all? Each raid is a "level" harder than the previous.
Of course there are some high level mobs, and increasing levels of difficulty, but it's not like you can 'brute-force kill' them by bringing a large number of toons, since 99.9% of said bosses are in raid instances with player cap (25 these days) and require some sort of class setup.
The few that are not in instances are not very hard.

[Rin]

Hey Sam,

You may want to invest in private registration for your domain name. All of your information (including the name of your construction company) is available right now for anyone to lookup... :thumbup:

[dancook]

Im 24 in EQ and 26 in WoW ....A combined total doesn't count - they are two different games
Also what did you get for "winning" EQ, aside of attention

I've set up a super duper network, I can play 5 x WOW - but wait for it.. I can also play 46 chess games simultaneously too.. so ya I win.

[shaeman]

Sam,

Progress report please - What level is your wow team now?

[Frosty]

Wait a minute.....you can WIN WoW and EQ?!?!?!?!

[Haruko]

this thread is getting out of hand, can we just let all of this go please. :S

[Ken]

As an individual the single person is more powerfull then the 5 as if it takes a guild to beat me, then thats my point. Clearly if it takes 5 individual single toon people to beat your 5 box set up, you are more powerfull then any single on of them.

What all end game encounters are of equal difficulty in WoW, how can that be? Surely some are harder then others.

The maximum amount of players for a raid is 40. So content is always made in such a way that 40 man can always beat it, even though it still might be difficult with such a full raid.
If you would pass by with 36 characters and master that content, then this would be a nice achievement. However, if someone does it with only 25 characters, he's definitely better than you. This is also the whole point: more characters doesn't make you the winner or better. It just gives you more powerful tools. It can still be impressive though... but we'll just wait and see about that ;)

[Leon]

this thread is getting out of hand, can we just let all of this go please. :SYeah, i should have re though my involvement in this thread -
"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
in this case its a cocksure attention seeking one
My last word on it and I'm pleased to discover a Ignore function.

[Tasty]

this thread is getting out of hand, can we just let all of this go please. :SYeah, i should have re though my involvement in this thread -
"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
in this case its a cocksure attention seeking one
My last word on it and I'm pleased to discover a Ignore function.

I need something to keep me entertained at work :)

[Frosty]

I need something to keep me entertained at work :)Me too! Good times!

[Threeofme]

wow the first thread I've seen with flames on these forums XD

Mate go nuts, is your cash...

[Sam DeathWalker]

If you would pass by with 36 characters and master that content, then this would be a nice achievement. However, if someone does it with only 25 characters, he's definitely better than you.

Exactly.

[Frosty]

wow the first thread I've seen with flames on these forums XD

Mate go nuts, is your cash...I'm not flaming, I'm roasting marshmallows and making popcorn! :thumbsup:

[badashh]

I just thought of the perfect analogy for the whole Sam I am spending more money than anyone and not listening to anybody analogy.

Just because George Stienbrenner owns the Yankees doesn't mean he can play baseball.

[Zseth]

Sam, stop using EQ references for WoW. Your lack of knowledge of the game is why you get flamed. By the way sam, I have officially 300 boxed now. Beat that.

http://www.fantomcomics.com/300.jpg

[Carnage]

Jesus this crappy one-way epeen self ego contest is still going on? crazy, id love to have that sort of money to waste spend - but i wouldnt want to be you :/

[valkry]

Jesus this crappy one-way epeen self ego contest is still going on? crazy, id love to have that sort of money to waste spend - but i wouldnt want to be you :/
Single boxers say that about multiboxers all the time...see what I did there?

[Zub]

Jesus this crappy one-way epeen self ego contest is still going on? crazy, id love to have that sort of money to waste spend - but i wouldnt want to be you :/
Single boxers say that about multiboxers all the time...see what I did there?
I've re-bolded the important part of his message.
This isnt about the fact that Sam is boxing 36 toons, (seen the totaly different reactions on Prepared' posts), it's about the epeen pseudo-contest Sam is trying to win.

[Moorea]

It's funny how people here are over sensitive to saying "money" - yes the most common hate tell we get as boxers is about "waste of money" - that doesn't means sometime people aren't actually wasting money / it's always false. (and yes it's always relative).

So I guess it's ok to say Sam is making no visible progress and adding accounts before showing basic results but not ok to say that because while making no progress he's paying for X accounts that this is a waste of money... taboo subject for mboxers ? (maybe because there is a grain of truth to the hate... we are spending more on our hobby than others... is there a limit... but again I don't mind if there was a 100boxer doing cool stuff and achieving something that a solo or 5 boxer can not but the feeling is sam is throwing money at a problem that doesn't need money as a solution - just need to spend a couple weeks leveling 2 toons (or maybe up to 5 / ie 1 quest group) to learn the rope before jumping in with X...)

[Tasty]

Heres a quote from an awesome historical figure


"Money's not wasted if you enjoyed what you spent it on" - Tasty

:)

[valkry]

Jesus this crappy one-way epeen self ego contest is still going on? crazy, id love to have that sort of money to waste spend - but i wouldnt want to be you :/
Single boxers say that about multiboxers all the time...see what I did there?
I've re-bolded the important part of his message.
This isnt about the fact that Sam is boxing 36 toons, (seen the totaly different reactions on Prepared' posts), it's about the epeen pseudo-contest Sam is trying to win.
I've re-bolded the hypocritical stab at Sam.
Reagrdless of the fact it is not the most important part of his post, it is still there, and it is still LOL.

Imo, people are too modest. I love it when a sports player or musician talks him/herself up. It's a nice change from the "well, it was a team effort, all the boys worked really hard for this result and hopefully we can have a repeat performance next week" which seems to be brainwashed into anyone who has the possibility of being interview post-match. WTB back the ol' "shit yea, I was on fire today, my opponent just couldn't keep up which allowed me to get some easy influence and really helped rip this game open." or even the ol' "g'day mum, dad, everyone back home, woohoo im on TV!!"

[Tasty]

Fair enough but there is a difference between talking yourself up and trash talking/talking someone down.

Man I was on fire today, I totally owned that interview! I'm so pro. <--Fine :P
Man I was so much better than you at that interview, theres no way you're going to get it over me cause I'm pro <-- lol

and yes I have no idea how this fits into any of the conversation above I'm just rambling again.

Reminds me of back in high school there was a traineeship going and only four spots yet there were like 6-7 people that went for it. One of the guy applying knew one of the people who was on the board choosing the applicants and they were good friends. In the morning we were discussing it etc etc and he was like "Well I'm definitely going to get one and so its Person x, then you guys will have to fight for the last two" I kept my mouth shut and just smiled on the inside at how much of a douche the guy was. The next week came I got a call at home "congrats you got the traineeship etc etc" I was smiling and happy. The next day I went to school and the kid that was being an ass was gone. Apparently he didn't get ANY of the four spots. Also he Apparently decided to switch schools. The friend that he knew on the inside was upset that he had asked him for a reference knowing that he was going to be helping choose the applicants. I don't think that was the reason he switched schools but if I acted the way he did I probably would have moved as well. Anyways I'm done rambling just wanted to share :)

[oxxo]

Jesus this crappy one-way epeen self ego contest is still going on? crazy, id love to have that sort of money to waste spend - but i wouldnt want to be you :/
Single boxers say that about multiboxers all the time...see what I did there?
I've re-bolded the important part of his message.
This isnt about the fact that Sam is boxing 36 toons, (seen the totaly different reactions on Prepared' posts), it's about the epeen pseudo-contest Sam is trying to win.
I've re-bolded the hypocritical stab at Sam.
Reagrdless of the fact it is not the most important part of his post, it is still there, and it is still LOL.

Imo, people are too modest. I love it when a sports player or musician talks him/herself up. It's a nice change from the "well, it was a team effort, all the boys worked really hard for this result and hopefully we can have a repeat performance next week" which seems to be brainwashed into anyone who has the possibility of being interview post-match. WTB back the ol' "shit yea, I was on fire today, my opponent just couldn't keep up which allowed me to get some easy influence and really helped rip this game open." or even the ol' "g'day mum, dad, everyone back home, woohoo im on TV!!"That's fine but again he has done absolutely nothing.

Using your sports analogy... this would be like say... in the NBA if someone like Brian Scalabrine telling everyone how he's going to be MVP and have averages of 30/10/10.

[valkry]

OR, we could switch it around and use someone saying they didn't do something but in the end did...don't see it yet? Well...

"i did not have sexual relations with that woman"

What a juicy piece that was, loved seeing that one :)

Yes, there is a difference between talking yourself up and trash talking someone else. So far all I can see is Sam talking himself up (a lot), and everyone else hating on him. This is why I'm defending him. Even though I don't like him all that much, he is only bragging, you guys are insulting him though. Tbh, if I was St. Peter, I'd let him into heaven with a warning, you guys would be shown the trap door leading down...

He's bragged about how many accounts he has, that he is going to be the best (saying "i will be the best" is a bit different to "im going to be way better than you cos you suck"), he's bragged about his site getting hits (to which you all replied his site sucks), he's bragged about upgrades to his comps to handle lag (to which you all replied waste of money lolol, lame, stfu sam), and although he has bragged that he is better than prepared at EQ, in the same sentence he has always admitted prepared is better than him at wow (and this is different to saying, "im a faster runner cos ur fat, but you are a better weightlifter than me...only cos ur fat...fatty).

2 wrongs don't make a right, I think we learnt that in Primary School sometime.

PS: lol, i love my crazy analogies ;)

[Zub]

Imo, people are too modest. I love it when a sports player or musician talks him/herself up. It's a nice change from the "well, it was a team effort, all the boys worked really hard for this result and hopefully we can have a repeat performance next week" which seems to be brainwashed into anyone who has the possibility of being interview post-match. WTB back the ol' "shit yea, I was on fire today, my opponent just couldn't keep up which allowed me to get some easy influence and really helped rip this game open." or even the ol' "g'day mum, dad, everyone back home, woohoo im on TV!!"

i don't mind that kind of personality you describe because, well, they DID something and deserve the spotlight they got put in. Can't have that behavior every time tho.
But in Sam's case, well he hasn't achieved much in wow yet, and as was said above he's just throwing more money at a problem which doesn't require money to be fixed.
The whole "Shit yeah, i am an awesome boxer look at me i'm boxing 26/36/whatever" is just meh.
Sam is just throwing himself in the spotlight, he didnt get put in it.

I personaly am not upset because he's spending/wasting money - who cares what he does with it, but because he indeed 'wastes' it by not taking advice, or even taking a logical approach on things (hurts my cartesian self), and is not even level 20 on his toons after 2 months+. what is worth bragging about?

Reminds me of my friend who bought a Porsche and keeps it in his garage, or my uncle who bought a (very) expensive painting, and keeps it in a safe. I see it as a waste of money, even though it might not be for them.

[Zub]

What a juicy piece that was
Was that pun intended ? :-)

[Sam DeathWalker]

You have to walk before you can run:

This is a perfect example of what new boxers have to do:

New boxer with status update ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=15313&')

Now the difference between most everyone and me is that I spends DAYS if NOT WEEKS to fix ANY problem that is going to bother me in the long run. He's just going to deal with the looting problem, I spent a long time resolving a solution and now I loot most everything. Thats why I am the slowest out of the gate but over the long run....

I'v spent 12 hours working on Lua programing to let me just copy my WTF file from my main account to the other 25, I got pitbull and dominos down but arkbags or whatever stores the bag contents so ... bleh. Sure I could spend 1 hour everytime I need to change my UI to do it by hand but thats not going to cut it over the next few years.

You just can't copy add on settings from one account to another and not load things or do something else before they work right.

[valkry]

2 wrongs don't make a right. It's funny cos it's true.

Why not just leave it at 1 wrong? Offer advice, if he doesn't take it, leave it.

[Tasty]

You have to walk before you can run:

What if you're a robot.

I'm a robot. I inject humour into conversations for your convenience.


Inject hehe :P

[valkry]

What a juicy piece that was
Was that pun intended ? :-)
Yea lol, you may have noticed I tend to do shit like that a lot in my posts. Mainly just crazy analogies that almost make no sense, kinda like those Dr. Phil take-offs lol. :P

[Tasty]

Yea, you may have noticed I do shit posts.

We noticed :P

[valkry]

Yea, you may have noticed I do shit posts.

We noticed :P



You have to walk before you can run:

What if you're a robot.

I'm a robot. I inject humour into conversations for your convenience.


Inject hehe :P
hai thar :rolleyes:

[Zub]

Why not just leave it at 1 wrong? Offer advice, if he doesn't take it, leave it.
You're right, you know. It's just frustrating to see the waste (of time/money/common sense/wow experience) in all of his posts.

Sam, you probably have no idea what you will need in terms of addons and such or even UI needs, at higher levels. Spending (too) much time on those 'for the long run' is very naive i think.
As far as i remember WoW comes with a default UI that works quite well, and most people usually try and play the game with it bit, and then change what they don't like or want to improve. They don't do the changes before hand because, well, they don't know.
ow well. good luck with your grinding. I hope you can get to 60 before your RAF ends, although i doubt it.

Ok i'm out. Later all.

[valkry]

Why not just leave it at 1 wrong? Offer advice, if he doesn't take it, leave it.
You're right, you know. It's just frustrating to see the waste (of time/money/common sense/wow experience) in all of his posts.

Sam, you probably have no idea what you will need in terms of addons and such or even UI needs, at higher levels. Spending (too) much time on those 'for the long run' is very naive i think.
As far as i remember WoW comes with a default UI that works quite well, and most people usually try and play the game with it bit, and then change what they don't like or want to improve. They don't do the changes before hand because, well, they don't know.
ow well. good luck with your grinding. I hope you can get to 60 before your RAF ends, although i doubt it.

Ok i'm out. Later all.
Hmm, you just gave me an idea for a new thread...check it :)

[Sam DeathWalker]

So I can't tell from reading forums that Pitbull is a good unit frame and Dominos is a good action bar replacement?

And I shouldn't download the 5 add-ons suggested by the OP in this thread so I can quest better?:

Horde Multi Boxing RAF 1-60 Leveling Guide ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=14471')

[Gomotron]

So I can't tell from reading forums that Pitbull is a good unit frame and Dominos is a good action bar replacement?

And I shouldn't download the 5 add-ons suggested by the OP in this thread so I can quest better?:

Horde Multi Boxing RAF 1-60 Leveling Guide ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=14471')Sam,

There is nothing that is universally good for everyone. Most of what people post is a matter of taste. In order to get a better appreciation of what a particular mod has to offer, it's important to compare it to the original setup. That's the only point trying to be made.

[zanthor]

As far as i remember WoW comes with a default UI that works quite well, and most people usually try and play the game with it bit, and then change what they don't like or want to improve. They don't do the changes before hand because, well, they don't know. Way back in the day... I was playing EQ and got an e-mail from Blizzard inviting me to join the WoW Closed Beta. I immediately got on the phone to a friend to see if he got in as well, and he sighed and said he had something he had to tell me... fucker had been playing F&F Alpha and already had a level 60 Rogue.

Anyhow, I downloaded the client and installed it, and before I even logged into the game my buddy said 'Hey, go check out www. cosmosui.org before you log in'... I did, installed it, and logged in for the first time, never having seen the default UI.

Time passed and I moved on from Cosmos to many of the other UI mods, never playing with the default when something better existed. Then I started multiboxing, and the UI REALLY does make a difference. I can't imagine playing without a good UI.

Anyhow, you gotta look at both sides of the UI arguement.

[Zub]

So, how is this team evolving?
I was surprised to see that there was no update in this awesome thread, and started thinking that Sam actually decided to give up the forums and start levelling.
i check the paly's armory and see level 20 (still), unplayed since October 14th. i check a couple of the shammies, all level 18-19, untouched since October 14.

I then check the soooo awesome website because maybe sam focused on that a bit.. nope still the shitty html display. ow well i guess you're busy with work then Sam, haven't given up have you?
Pity that RAF is ticking (1 month to go maybe?), and the cap wil get to 80 in 2 weeks.
Was there ever a competition going with Prepared? /lol

[valkry]

There were no new posts because we let this thread die...

[Tasty]

There were no new posts because we let this thread die...

Brai... Damn those zombies, they've migrated to the DB forums!

[Gomotron]

Don't trust the armory. It is having issues lately and my own gear is not updating properly. It shows that I am still level 64 and gear that I had on over a week ago.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I have not played for awhile.

Getting my 4 new computers up. My other 2 (6 total for gaming) dont need upgrading.

Cloning disks today. One works, 2 are passed bench test, building the 4th.
Moved to XP on these 4; On the one that works I got into wow but can't get into EQ lol ... oh well.

When done Ill have:

9550 main
6400, 6000, 6000 (1920X1200 Screens)
5600, 5600 (1680 X 1050 Screens)

All 4G 800speed ram.

All 9600 512GDDR3 video cards. (no fans)

All with WoW on Raptors.

4 will have XP not sure if I moving from Win2k on my main yet.

And if I need more Ill invest in SSD drives.

All motherboards are first quality and can take 140w Quad Core Athlons AM2+, if I need to upgrade. Either 570 sli or 8200 chipset. No fans. All computers have 600-700 Watt Thermaletake Power Supplies with all fans 120 or 140 size. CPU fan is 120 size. Case fan 120 size. All shark cases.

No more lag 4 me!

First Step to Victory is to have the best equipment. While others be lagging, I'll be bragging. While others lose autofollow, TeH MIGHTY DEATHWALKER will run around them in circles.


Iv spent a LOT of time trying to figure some way to edit Avchd video so I can put my exploits on my web site. You can't belive how hard it is. It seems that you have to reencode and it takes like 12 hours to do 1 hour. I don't know its a real mess right now. I might just play wait and see.

[valkry]

I don't lose follow :)

[Zub]

While others be lagging, I'll be bragging.
You've done plenty of bragging already. Actually let's put it another way, you've *ONLY* done bragging so far :-)


First Step to Victory is to have the best equipment.
how about the "Be there at the right place, at the right time" thingy? you're about to miss the WOTLK bus Sam, people will be killing bosses at 80 while you'll be bragging on your equipment at level 35 at this speed. Cmon already!


On the one that works I got into wow but can't get into EQ lol ... oh well.
oww does that mean you're letting your EQ toons go...? of course not! you just can't play them on that machine

[Sam DeathWalker]

My RAF time is unlimited, Ill just buy more accounts.

No Im not losing my EQ guys just have to figure out the error, not really worried about EQ right now.

Look at all the posts here about a 70 pally boosting groups in no time. I mean what BS you can tag with a level 1 and kill with a level 70 and the level 1 gets exp ...


I can quest up 2 toons really fast then use those to PL everyone else if my time is short.

[Ifalna]

Paladin boosting means instances Sam.

Instances mean 4 characters and the pally at a time, and it is in no way quick enough to boost characters to 70 in instances to justify being able to get 7 groups done in any amount of time thats not obscene.
Unless you ofc want to have a 40 char raid outdoors and get a grand total of about 4 exp per kill, meaning you need 35 times the exp it would normally take while still only killing mobs at the speed of one Paladin.

Have you researched this at all? I mean Ive been giving you the benfit of the doubt, but the way your going means you have no chance of being even 50 before the expansion, especially with that plan.

[valkry]

Well, he has about 14 days before xpac. We all know he won't make it to 70 before release, but it's not really a big issue.

[Zub]

My RAF time is unlimited, Ill just buy more accounts.
To get the RAF triple xp, you'll then need to group your current toons with your new toons, and they will need to be in the same level range to get the bonus xp.. sure you thought all that through?
i'm pretty sure there is a way to do it with little downtime, but how do you expect to do it? what is your RAFing plan for those toons? just curious.


Look at all the posts here about a 70 pally boosting groups in no time. I mean what BS you can tag with a level 1 and kill with a level 70 and the level 1 gets exp ...
sure, but as was stated that's 4 toons at a time, as only party members get xp, and a party is max 5 toons.
Ow, and at the moment you don't have a high level paly (or high level anything for that matter). which brings us to the third quote below:


I can quest up 2 toons really fast then use those to PL everyone else if my time is short.
i'd like to know your idea of "really fast". also, what do you consider as "my time is short". because 2 weeks to level up a couple toons to 70 when you've never done it before is definitely short. And you would need to be "really fast", particularly on a pvp server. good luck though, seems like a fair plan.
Repetitively boosting the remaining 24 toons is going to be waaaaay mind-numbing tho.

funny you're saying you'll start with just a couple toons using quests.. it's exactly what half the people on this forum have been telling you to do for the last 45 days lol.
you've done half the job (accepting the idea) just have to do it now :)

Gluck!

[Sam DeathWalker]

Oh ye of little faith.

My plan is to finish my computers, and I got the 2nd one online tonight. 2 down 2 to go.

[valkry]

He doesn't have to be lvl 70 by the xpac date. There are plenty of people who were not 60 by the BC xpac.

[Tasty]

He doesn't 'Have' to do anything.

[valkry]

What he means by "buy new accounts" is he will buy half the accounts he has now, link them to half of his accounts, xfer over toons to the new accounts from the ones that aren't linked, ane enjoy his new zhevras and 3 months RAF playtime.

PS: This thread is now OVER NINE PAGES!!

[Zub]

He doesn't have to be lvl 70 by the xpac date. There are plenty of people who were not 60 by the BC xpac.

He doesn't 'Have' to do anything.
lol both correct :-) it's just that being 70 (or 30 for that matter) when everyone is 80 is no bragging matter, so in two weeks it will just postpone his work by 10 levels.



Oh ye of little faith.
My plan is to finish my computers, and I got the 2nd one online tonight. 2 down 2 to go.
Time will tell i guess :-) as i said, good luck.

[Zub]

What he means by "buy new accounts" is he will buy half the accounts he has now, link them to half of his accounts, xfer over toons to the new accounts from the ones that aren't linked, ane enjoy his new zhevras and 3 months RAF playtime.
ah yeah, that should work indeed.


9 PAGES? i don't know how many posts you display per page, but i'm just on page 4 :-)

[Anahka]

First Step to Victory is to have the best equipment. While others be lagging, I'll be bragging. While others lose autofollow, TeH MIGHTY DEATHWALKER will run around them in circles.


In Mulgore. With your lvl 3 toons. For over a month now.

You go girl.

[Seldum]

Who says he should be lvl 70 for the expansion. I won't care about reaching lvl 80 for the first month. Im gonna levl my toons instead. The new area is going to be cluttered with gaylord 70's trying to reach lvl 80! Wow congratulation, you now reach the new highest lvl and you now have nothing to look forward to - again. lol

I play wow because I like the story of the quests, and in general just enjoying playing PvE and PvP, and I don't care at what level it is. O have just as much fun on a lvl 50 toon as on a lvl 70 toon (except boosting with the lvl 70 - thats nice.)

[aNiMaL]

6666 views on this thread O.o

Evil lurks

[Bigfish]

PS: This thread is now OVER NINE PAGES!!

What, nine pages?!?! No way!!!

[eqjoe]

As you all know I currently 24 BoX EQ:

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=133048

As you also know I 26 BoX WoW and Mr. Prepared is well ... slaughtering me badly to be honest.

Although I have 50 total MMO accounts to his 36.

So time to move up to 36 BoX to at least equal him in WoW accounts!

Reducing my Screen Resolutions now to 1024 X 786 on all but the main computer (1600 X 1200 so thats its also 4:3), and upgrading all secondary computers to AMD X2 5600's, Asus 8300 based AM2 motherboards, 3 gig ram on each (won't see any extra with 4G anyways), still will stay with Win2K, Hopefully I can run 7 accounts on 5 computers and 1 on the main for 36 total. Right now 4 of them are amd 3700 in a 939 soc MB.

Not sure how I will handle the RAF but probably be serial (a invite b invite c etc) again. Also I am working on moving to a quest based game as all here have suggested.

Ill post again here when the computers are all built, and on www.samdeathwalker.com ('http://www.samdeathwalker.com/') !

You sir, are freaking crazy!

[TheBigBB]

I don't use any UIs and I try not to use anything unless I have to. I use a healing mod for when I solobox raid which I couldn't live without. Other than that, I find that maintaining and updating custom UIs is nearly useless anymore with all the great built-in features of the default UI. It even tells you when you're having threat issues now.

[valkry]

What are these healing mods I keep hearing about? I have gone through everything including BT and some of Sunwell without using one, I just use a UI (x-perl) that shows every raid member's hp so i can heal them.

[maximusss]

Daaamn how can some people be so stubborn/ignorant...Sam could have already reached EASILY atleast lvl60 on all his toons, if he had listened peoples advice

My bet is...Sam will hit level80 next June or something :P

[Sajuuk]

What are these healing mods I keep hearing about? I have gone through everything including BT and some of Sunwell without using one, I just use a UI (x-perl) that shows every raid member's hp so i can heal them.Healbot is one of these abominations.

Healing with those mods is too easy. I use mouseover macros and grid (really compact raid frames).

[Sam DeathWalker]

http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/search.php

Just search for "heal" lots of addon come up.

Whats wrong with spending time to build computers so you can play without lag? Dang.....

[Youngceo]

The fact you talk about yourself in 3rd person and think your famous enough that everyone cares what you play or how many accounts you got just screams tool to me. sorry

[Sam DeathWalker]

My thoughts on SSD drives and system ram and super computers from another thread that is not being read much, I'm putting it here so we have more viewers of what seems a topic of concern to all multiboxers.

Lax and Not5150 suggest putting the windows page file on an SSD.

Not5150 and Lax showed links to drives that are 150MB/s read and 100MB/s write.

Aboron showed this link:

http://www.acard.com/english/fb01-product.jsp?idno_no=270&prod_no=ANS-9010&type1_title=%20Solid%20State%20Drive&type1_idno=13

My reply was:


Those are some really amazing SSD drives. My wow folder is 11G so I would guess 16G is the minimum you can get away with.

2G ram is like $25 so umm 16G is umm $200 plus you can get their $250 dive so you can saturate a SaTa2 buss for $450.

But for $450 shouldn’t you just go to 64 bit operating system and a motherboard that has 16G ram?

Well this can take 32G using the 2G $25 rams (16 of them or $400)

Dam this is $414 wholesale.

Tyan Thunder h2000M (S3992G3NR-E) Dual Opteron 2000/ DDR2/ RAID/ V&3L/ E-ATX Server Motherboard
Specification
Mfr Part Number: S3992G3NR-E
CPU: Dual uPGA 1207-pin ZIF Sockets Support AMD Opteron (Rev. F) 2000 Series Santa Rosa Dual-Core/ Barcelona Quad-Core Processors
Chipset: Broadcom BCM5780 (HT2000) & BCM5785 (HT1000)
Memory: 16x 240pin DDR2-667 DIMMs, Dual Channel, ECC/REG
Slots: 2x PCI-Express x16 Slots (Run on x8); 2x 133/100MHz PCI-X Slots; 1x 100MHz PCI-X Slot; 1x 32-bit/33MHz PCI Slot; 1x Tyan "TARO" SO-DIMM Socket
IDE/SATA: 1x ATA-133 Channel; 4x SATA Ports, Support RAID 0, 1, 5, and 10
Video: ATI ES1000 Graphics Controller w/ 32MB Video Memory
LAN: 2x 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Controllers (From BCM5780); 1x Intel i82551QM Fast Ethernet Controller
Ports: 4x USB 2.0 Ports (2 rear, 2 by header); 2x PS/2 Ports; 2x Serial Ports (1 rear, 1 by header); 1x VGA Port; 3x RJ45 LAN Ports
Power Connector: 1x 24pin main power, 1x 8pin CPU power
Form Factor: Extended ATX, 13 x 12 nich
Package: Retail
RoHS Compliant

Ok so for $800 you can get 32G ram motherboard and ram and dont need any SSD. Dam I wish I never read this lol ... $800 X 6 is umm ouch.

The cheapest optrons are: $144 each wholesale, doubt you need two but if you run tons of wows then ya.

AMD Opteron Dual-Core Processor Model 2212 1207pins, Retail w/o Heat sink Fan


So you can load your whole wow folder into the system ram and have 20G left over ....

And with 32G you dont need a page file ...

Ill bet you can get 30 wows on that kind of machine np, I think.

Well hummm ... ummm ok my brain is going to blow up heh ...


Ok the optron does not seem faster then a 6000 duel core I dont htink based on its price. So for about $1200 you get more ram then my 6 machines (32G to 24G) but about 1/2 the processor power. But you only need ONE video card ... but you only have ONE monitor ... but you only need ONE keyboard and mouse.

Ummm ...

If everything is in system ram how much processor power do you need for say 30 wows? And can you play 30 wows with only one screen, well you cant ... well if you are full screen in all and dont mind flipping though 30 times to get to a particular character. ummm ... well. Wonder how fast pip works if everything is in system ram ...

I want to stress that with this set up you can load your WHOLE WOW FOLDER into system ram and STILL have 20G of system ram left over ..... . I don't know if wow would do that or whatever but Im just saying that just think about that.


How would YOU run 30 wow's on a single computer, IF your computer could handle it?

[shaeman]

[EDIT: Removed post as it added nothing to the conversation]

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well computers are basically done. Only have 3 copies of XP so gonna have to get some more asap. But all six is up and running.

[Zub]

Well computers are basically done. Only have 3 copies of XP so gonna have to get some more asap. But all six is up and running.
Awesome. definitely something to celebrate

[Haruko]

Well computers are basically done. Only have 3 copies of XP so gonna have to get some more asap. But all six is up and running.

You run XP 8| Why not Vista x 64 ?

Just curious because with that many accounts It would be nice running 4GB of RAM & having Vista use it nicely.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Because programs are about 20 percent larger with 64 bit systems you don't gain anything if you only have 4G in your machine. If you had 8G ya vista X64 would be the way to go.

I don't think I need more ram for just 5 instances per computer but Ill find out.

I had many problems installing Vista from a win2k upgrade, maybe if I was installing clean it might be different. There is just no compelling reason to move to 64 bit, espically with the advent of SSD. If I move to the server mother boards then ya Ill have to use vista (or server software but vista would be better for home use). But thats in the far future.

[oxxo]

Because programs are about 20 percent larger with 64 bit systems you don't gain anything if you only have 4G in your machine. If you had 8G ya vista X64 would be the way to go.

I don't think I need more ram for just 5 instances per computer but Ill find out.

I had many problems installing Vista from a win2k upgrade, maybe if I was installing clean it might be different. There is just no compelling reason to move to 64 bit, espically with the advent of SSD. If I move to the server mother boards then ya Ill have to use vista (or server software but vista would be better for home use). But thats in the far future.

SSD and 64 bit have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

[Sam DeathWalker]

The reason to move to 64 bit is so that you have more system ram to reduce the amount of time it takes to move data to the system ram when zoneing or when in "Sath". With more system ram you reduce the number of times you go to the hard disk for data and thus improve zoning (loading) times.

SSD is just a faster drive so that when you go to it for data you get that data faster, thus improving zoning (loading) times.

You use either one to have "less lag".

[Haruko]

Because programs are about 20 percent larger with 64 bit systems you don't gain anything if you only have 4G in your machine. If you had 8G ya vista X64 would be the way to go.

I don't think I need more ram for just 5 instances per computer but Ill find out.

I had many problems installing Vista from a win2k upgrade, maybe if I was installing clean it might be different. There is just no compelling reason to move to 64 bit, espically with the advent of SSD. If I move to the server mother boards then ya Ill have to use vista (or server software but vista would be better for home use). But thats in the far future.

Are you really sure about 4GB machines not gaining anything? Might be more suited on machines with 2GB as Vista is a slug, but when I went to Vista with 4GB vs XP with 3.25GB Vista showed better use of the RAM overall. I guess when it comes to WoW yeah it wouldn't matter until you hit those big towns. 4GB is Vista's sweet spot 8GB is heaven once you configure right. Don't get me wrong, you can do whatever you like, I was just curious with the choice of RAM & CPU / OS mainly.

So 60 anytime soon :D

edit: post below

BTW, I was gonna say 64-bit & SSD are like different things btw as once poster stated. Not sure why you took the more expensive route with getting better load times & overall performance. ah well.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well you dont gain ram by going from 32bit OS to 64bit OS if you only have 4G of ram. 64 bit OS has to store everything in 64 bits. So programs written in 32 bit become 10-20 percent LARGER when ran on a 64 bit system simply because the addresses are longer as is the data. So if you see 2.8 G out of 4 in 32 bit OS you might get more ram avaialable wiht 64 bit operating system but all your programs take more space so you dont gain much. And Vista64 vs. XP32 well Vista is going to run more junk in the background anyways so again no gain.

Now if you go to 8G then ya you sure will get improvment from a 64 bit OS.

Ya I know you can have a SSD with a 32 bit or 64 bit OS. And i kinda figured that one is made up of physical nand gates on silicon and the other is binary code in software. So ya they are kinda two different things wouldnt you say?

They are both methods to increase frame rates and are similar in that respect.


Im taking a basic method. Raptors and 4G with 32 bit OS, not the best for sure but the cheapest by far. If I need more to run more then 5 clients then Ill move to SSD or RamDisk or ServerMotherboard as needed.

[Gomotron]

Now I'm getting a little bit confused here.

Sam, are you talking about SSD or a RAMDisk? I mean, SSD is fast but I don't think it would be nearly fast enough to run 30 WoW's on one computer. If you are talking about running a 64-bit OS and then maxxing ram out to 16GB or even 32GB and setting up a RAMDisk with, say, 10GB (on the 16 GB configuration), I think that might be fast enough to possibly handle the load. You could run the main OS off of an SSD drive, then with each boot-up, autostart a RAMDisk and copy the WoW files from the SSD to the RAMDisk.

Booting would be a pain each time, but I would venture to guess that the RAMDisk would be fast as lightning!

[Sam DeathWalker]

I dont think you need either a ramdisk (seperate addon board) or SSD drive if you have the system ram.

Here are the 4 choices:

HDD vs. SSD vs. RamDrive vs. ServerMBSystemRam

ServerMB with 32G system Ram and 64 Bit operating system is the best solution (about $1000) 800+MB/s

http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=163

All the rest will work in 32 bit OS:

Next up is RamDrive 16G (about $800) [thanks to Aboron] 400MB/sec

http://www.acard.com/english/fb01-produc…e&type1_idno=13

Then we have SSD, there are many posts in this forum for links. About $100-$300 150MB/sec

And finally HDD $190 for 1.5TB 120MB/sec?

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1347084



I understand where you are coming from; by ramdisk I ment a seperate product, not setting up a ram disk in system ram. Im not really sure how you would set things up with a 32G system ram system. Maybe you would make part of it a ram disk maybe not. And you are correct you will not run 30 wow's with a SSD or even the add on ram disk, only the server motherboard with 32G system ram will let you get 30 wow's.
At any rate there are only 4 choices to make, and the faster you want the more you pay.