View Full Version : 10 Warlocks: Quickest way to 60? (or 70)
burdock
10-09-2008, 10:36 PM
After listening to Hendrata and Tasty's suggestion:
rather go 10 warlocks just for the soc's lol :PI have decided to try 10 locks. After giving it some thought, 10 Felguards could tank long enough to drop most bosses pre WotLK, and even if a lock pulls aggro in expansion, Metamorphosis ('http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=59672') is sure to be a saving grace.
My new question is how would you go about leveling 10 warlocks if you were in my shoes. I'm looking for fastest 1-60(70). I'm going to try and explain my account setup as clear as possible as well as what i'm thinking.
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1605/set1tp9.jpg http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4305/set2yi9.jpg
Also, I have the following characters on Magtheridon:
70 Warlock 70 Mage 70 Rogue 70 Paladin 70 DruidI am thinking the quickest method would be:
Level 5 locks to 8 Take the 4 RAF locks into RFC / WC / SFK with 70 lock until about 28. Grant 20 levels to VET lock. Quest / Run SM with all 5 till about 40. Quest to 44. Run Zul'Farrak to 48. Quest to 50. Run Sunken Temple to 55. Run Blackrock Depths to 60. Repeat whole process with VET2 / RAF5 - RAF8 :(Would it just be quicker to level all 10 br grinding in a raid?
How would you do it?
=== POST UPDATED WITH TIMETABLE ===
My Timetable:
Group 1:
Level 10: /played = 1 hour 45 minutes
1-8 (questing): 1 hour 15 minutes
8-10 (4 RAF accounts in RFC with 70 warlock): 30 minutes
Level 20: /played = 7 hours 55 minutes
10-16 (4 RAF accounts in RFC with 70 warlock): 2 hours 20 minutes 16-20 (4 RAF accounts in WC with 70 warlock): 3 hours 50 minutes At this point, 3 levels were granted to the VET level 8 lock from each of the RAF accounts, bringing the VET from level 8 to level 20.
Tasty
10-09-2008, 10:46 PM
First you're awesome! Second 10 locks in demon form would look godly. Lastly, I'd prolly just raf two group of five then quest em. 2 days 10hours to 60 per group if you're a slow person like myself. 5 days and you have 10 60's then you just need to level em to 70. I was actually wondering the same thing for wotlk. Whether I'd be better off leveling one group at a time or having em both quest in separate groups at the same time... /boggle Maybe we should ask Prepared :P
Also nice chart :D
zhenyalix
10-09-2008, 11:33 PM
I raf'd my second set of 4 on follow to 60 in under a day /played... sadly didn't do a time trial or note on the first group but i'd bet its in the same timeline... this using a mage to boost them soley in instance (i'm alliance)
10-15 vc
15-20 ish stockades
20-43 SM arm/cath
43-45 ZF (hate AoE'ing here because of the polyfrog esp if u don't have a dispeller)
45-60 Strathome Undead back towards live... think i have a pic but def don't unlock barons gate that side isn't very aoe'able...
think in strath without looting i was able to keep in the 290k-310k range till i start getting tired (i only wow at work on the nighshift and sadly it does req a mind to boost)
blaugh guess i have to upload the pics somewhere in order to post them here >.<
zhenyalix
10-09-2008, 11:43 PM
wait... looking at your orig pic... are you linking all your raf accounts to vet 1 and two?
i'm not sure this would be the best way to go simply for the free ding 'gift lvl's' or whatever they call them... and the zhebra mounts if you care about them...
i linked Vet -> Raf1 and Raf1 -> Raf2 then made a second set Raf3 -> Raf4 though most importantly when i boost a team to 60 i use my main with Raf1-2 3-4 linked on follow Raf4 gifts 30 lvl's to Raf3 and Raf2 gifts 30 lvl's to Raf1 which i have Vet linked account partied with in the group while i do it which gives 15 lvl's more that Raf1 can gift Vet... I don't care much about the zhebras but for this gifting levels alone might want to reconcider how your refering... with this setup i'm already ending up with too many free gift lvl's to ever use up without moving toons off of my orig accounts :p
Edit:
Also note to get the tripple xp the toons your lvl'ing need to be linked in your pic that would mean using a lvl 1 on the vet account to lvl with the raf's which wouldn't work if you want to instance boost unless you leave a toon out and use vet2 to boost the first vet and raf1-3 though then u will end up with 8 locks >.< really think u should link:
Vet1 -> Raf1
Raf1 -> Raf2 -> Raf3 -> Raf4
Vet2 -> Raf5
Raf5 -> Raf6 -> Raf7 -> Raf8
burdock
10-10-2008, 12:14 AM
@ Tasty:
Hah, thanks! My mages were also 2 days 12 hours to 60. I'm interested to see if the warlocks level quicker... I just have to keep looking forward to the BGs!
@ Zhenyalix:
Unfortunately, the accounts have already all been set up, several days ago for one set, and several weeks ago for the other. When i configured them, i was under the impression tripple experience wouldn't be granted if a mob or quest was gray to one of the party members. (So i had discarded boosting).
Also, i had wanted to be able to provide the gifted levels to the same account, this way, i can gift two characters to each vet account from 1 to 60, which will allow me to put a Tank and Healer on each vet account with minimal work. The Zhevrahs, I will probably not even collect.
I've just created one set of warlocks, i'll keep this thread updated with my times, just for those who are intersted, if any!
zhenyalix
10-10-2008, 12:23 AM
you can still boost... just use vet 2 to boost the first set of four and vet1 for your second group.... you are gonna end up with a ton of gifted toons on those two main accounts :p prepare to have lvl 30 bank toons hey at least then u can get them a pimp tuxedo set and mount to bling in ;)...
and for sanity sake i'd just lvl the last two locks your missing to 30 on the vet1 and vet2 accounts then free ding and move them over unless ur a glutton for punishment like me and plan on abusing the whole 90 day raf'ness :D (i'm currently on my 4'th and 5th set of toons)
Guild name One Man's Army... oh so fitting now lol
http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Thunderlord&n=One+Mans+Army&p=1
though sadly armory doesn't seem to update very quickly or maybe i need to keep the toons logged in a while to update - i have 12 60's and 2 @ 58 and thats just not showing up on armory lol oh well
(in case your curious though shammys or lock/priest seem to be the best boxing now... i figured as with all big updates and how blizz nurfs one class and makes the next the new best thing... best to just have as many options as possible on all 5 accounts)
oh and the best part about those free dings... lol i boosted two mages to 38 (one bubble from 39) in 8 hours /played then free ding'd them to 60... so nice screenshot of a mage at one bubble from 61 with 8 hours /played :p ((oh and if you haven't caught it elsewhere get your toons close as possible to ding'ing before u gift them - because if your at 99.9% of the lvl when you free gift it, you will be at 99.9% of the next lvl... so if your one kill away from 60 then use a free gift ding then you just did a crapload of xp (its a huge jump from 60-61) from memory like 400k something xp? its a RAF bug imo.. but a nice one half of my toons are one bubble away from 61 and never stepped foot into outlands... heck half of them still don't have training or even lvl 30 mounts! <3 <3 summon friend... make toons named "SummonSM" etc to park outside of every instance accordingly... then no need to constantly move alts around :D
zhenyalix
10-10-2008, 01:34 AM
Also, i had wanted to be able to provide the gifted levels to the same account, this way, i can gift two characters to each vet account from 1 to 60, which will allow me to put a Tank and Healer on each vet account with minimal work. The Zhevrahs, I will probably not even collect.
NOTE u can't gift a single toon more than 30 dings.... ie u can't lvl up a lvl 1 to 60 for free even if u have the dings avail.... its in the fine print that any single toon can't accept more than 30 free dings so basicly u still need to lvl up your tank and healer to 30 BEFORE gifting them (or at least one bubble from 31 imo :D) just giving a headsup before u find out that too late
valkry
10-10-2008, 02:50 AM
Well, I'd say personally watching someone gift their char from 1 to 60, that you can give more than 29 lvls to any single char...Tasty, you did this with your pally didn't you?
ZorbaTheGeek
10-10-2008, 03:03 AM
NOTE u can't gift a single toon more than 30 dings.... ie u can't lvl up a lvl 1 to 60 for free even if u have the dings avail.... its in the fine print that any single toon can't accept more than 30 free dings so basicly u still need to lvl up your tank and healer to 30 BEFORE gifting them (or at least one bubble from 31 imo :D) just giving a headsup before u find out that too late
Absolutely not true.
You get 29 gift levels per 60, and can gift from more than one recruit toon to a single vet. The last two toons on my original two accounts were just made to use the last bunch of gift levels, I played them to level 13 and gifted them all the way to 60, they have less than 90mins played.
zhenyalix
10-10-2008, 03:33 AM
doh well i stand corrected so much for believing blue posts :P i guess i should have known better than believing them as absolute truth as i also have a copy of one posting the toons have to be teh exact same lvl else only the lower of the two gets the tripple xp (this may be true if the higher toon is much much higher but i know for a fact they can be 3-4 lvls diff and still both get tripple xp... good to know thx guys now even more tempting to move a toon from my first account as i have more free dings than i'm going to be able to use >.<
zhenyalix
10-10-2008, 03:54 AM
to prove i'm not making crap up lol
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=5F7EC706B6D2FAED4B78797CAEE 68078.app11_05?topicId=8765628748&sid=1
about half way down
The maximum number of grantable levels that can be gained by a single character is 29.
to me that meant any alt i have on the vet account can't get free ding'd more than 29 times hence i'd have to make a lvl 30 eh 31 to get to 60.... oh nevermind i'm an idiot that obviously means the RAF account granter not the granted....eh granbtee? lol i'm a moron >.<
Jheusse
10-10-2008, 09:03 AM
You misunderstood what he was saying perhaps. (just realized you caught it yourself, reading the whole post 4tehwin Jheusse)
The maximum number of grantable levels a character can generate is 29 (at levels 3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27,29,31,33,35,37, 39,41,43,45,47,49, 51, 53,55,57,59)
The maximum number of levels a character can accept via granting is 59 (no I'm not typing them all out, 1-60 :) )
Either that or you understood him correctly and he's wrong for one reason or another.
With the way you have them set up, the idea of swapping the vets to boost for the "other team" will work very well. Running two teams to 60 on each group you'll generate 8*29= 232 levels available to grant to each veteran account. That's almost 4 free L 60s on each veteran account. And in general you want to avoid using those gift levels to grant low levels like 1-10 or 1-30, it's a waste of the resource, which makes those 232 levels go even further.
TLDR version, you're gonna have a ton of levels to grant and accept, since you obviousl yhave the money to afford 10 accounts and the relevant hardware, I think you're going to end up creating a bunch of additional 60s on the veteran accounts and account transfer them off to other accounts to make more room to level more toons with the gifting.
hendrata
10-10-2008, 11:11 AM
ZOMG 10 Warlocks in WSG would OWN
As for granting levels, I don't know exactly how your accounts are set up, but if you level 5 warlocks, say A B C D E, then B and C can gift the levels to new toon F, and D and E can gift to new toon G. Now, F and G can gift their levels as well to a new toon H and I. You just need to level H and I from 1 to 30.
Now, you have 9 toons ABCDEFGHI which are level 60.
And then, for toon J, just use your pre-existing level 70 warlock.
Of course this would mean that your accounts have to be linked properly :P
If not, then I'd say just doing instances with 2 groups of 5, you get good exp from quests that way. Don't do raids because you can't get credit for non-raid quests while in a Raid group.
burdock
10-10-2008, 01:45 PM
to prove i'm not making crap up lol
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=5F7EC706B6D2FAED4B78797CAEE 68078.app11_05?topicId=8765628748&sid=1
about half way down
The maximum number of grantable levels that can be gained by a single character is 29.
to me that meant any alt i have on the vet account can't get free ding'd more than 29 times hence i'd have to make a lvl 30 eh 31 to get to 60.... oh nevermind i'm an idiot that obviously means the RAF account granter not the granted....eh granbtee? lol i'm a moron >.<This blue post is a little misleading.
I know for a fact that you can grant a character from 1-60 though. When my 5 mages dinged 60, i created a priest (lvl 1) on the VET1 account. And then i gifted 29 levels from RAF1 (VET priest is now 30) then i gifted 29 levels from RAF2 (VET priest is now 59) then i figted 1 level from RAF3 (VET priest is now 60 and naked). Next time i do this however, i will definitly spen the 8 minutes involved leveling the character to level two (and a few exp from level 3 as a previous posted suggested) so that the character can be leveled to 60 with only the gifted levels from 2 accounts, providing a full 2 characters from 2-60 (just being short of 61).
The blue post:
The maximum number of grantable levels that can be gained by a single character is 29.
Should read:
The maximum number of grantable levels that can be gifted by a single character is 29.
(but keep in mind that in order to gift a level, it has to first be gained; so if interpreted correctly, the original post does make sense)
cairnz
10-11-2008, 07:12 PM
i recently lvled up 2x2 chars using the recruit-a-friend - and a 70 warrior for dps'ing.
I might've gone a bit on the slow route when i did - anyhoo...
(this was horde side)
1-8ish - newbiequests - get out of zone
8-14 - rfc
14-19 wc (this could've done in sfk instead)
19-25 sfk
25-38 sm
38-46 zf
46-54 brd
54-60 brs
total time ~20 hours - the boosted characters were able to heal the 70 warr in brd and brs instances. the mobs start hurtin' there.
(the quests for BRS covers the whole 59-60 level when delivering, 40k per quest.)
burdock
10-11-2008, 10:32 PM
i recently lvled up 2x2 chars using the recruit-a-friend - and a 70 warrior for dps'ing.
I might've gone a bit on the slow route when i did - anyhoo...
....
total time ~20 hours - the boosted characters were able to heal the 70 warr in brd and brs instances. the mobs start hurtin' there.
(the quests for BRS covers the whole 59-60 level when delivering, 40k per quest.)Carinz, in an instance, when a warrior kills a mob, (say the 2 chars you are leveling are level 19) were the two characters still obtaining triple exp from the kill, since the mob was gray to the warrior?
If so, i've really screwed myself for boosting my characters. Since the VET char (see the graphic in first post) sits outside while a 70 boosts the other 4 (since once the 4 RAFs have been leveled, they can gift the VET account).
cairnz
10-12-2008, 04:52 AM
The char boosting is not a part of the RAF.
charW * unlinked
char1<-raflink->char2
char3<-raflink->char4
This was me running char1+char2 on the other monitor, no utils or anything - basically /afk following char3+char4 controlled by a friend - while i also used the 70 warr to kill everything.
all 4 chars receive the triple xp with the 70 in team, since the rules for the raf state that mob should not be grey for "either" of the two linked chars.
burdock
10-12-2008, 01:22 PM
charW * unlinked
char1<-raflink->char2
char3<-raflink->char4
all 4 chars receive the triple xp with the 70 in team, since the rules for the raf state that mob should not be grey for "either" of the two linked chars.Yea, mine were not configured like this. So boosting from 8 to 16 in RFC took 2 hours 20 minutes. And 16 - 20 in WC took almost 4 hours. (At about this point, boosting becomes inefficient and with the triple exp from questing, they are better off doing that.)
Maybe i should consider activating new accounts, or just suck it up and spend the 2 days to quest 'em to 60. :S
Ualaa
10-12-2008, 03:57 PM
*Edit*
Question answered via a subsequent post in the thread. Should have read to the end.
cairnz
10-12-2008, 06:27 PM
i took 4 chars from 8 to 12-13 in wc then straight to SFK where they're now 20-21 . the whole process didn't take more than 3-4 hours - including travel. This is with the 70 warrior doing all the juice.
i'll time tomorrow in SM - just need to upgrade the two new trial accounts to real ones.
I estimate i could do 20-35 in 5 hours.
burdock
10-12-2008, 07:58 PM
i took 4 chars from 8 to 12-13 in wc then straight to SFK where they're now 20-21 . the whole process didn't take more than 3-4 hours - including travel. This is with the 70 warrior doing all the juice.
i'll time tomorrow in SM - just need to upgrade the two new trial accounts to real ones.
I estimate i could do 20-35 in 5 hours.Hearing this really makes me think i should re-do all my accounts... Only thing i would regret is that i have 5 level 64 mages with epic mounts, and 20 characters with regular ground mounts and another 1,000g in bags throughout all the characters.
Maybe I will continue leveling the 5 locks that are currently 24, and only re-create accounts 6-10 with the same RAF settings as you have. If i figure I'm saving myself 24 hours of played time, then $50 is just slightly more than $2 an hour... well worth it imo).
cairnz
10-14-2008, 04:54 AM
Managed to hit 42-43 on the shamans yesterday. Patch tomorrow, hitting 60 today might be stretching it, but i'll try!
(Yesterday meaning yesterday afternoon from 5pm-ish -> not too late into the night)
Tasty
10-14-2008, 05:10 AM
I pray to god the xp reduction from 60-70 is implemented this patch
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