Anyone else feel guilty about a loss?

[Nmagrig]

So here is the deal. I will go into a bg with my 5 shaman. Normally I hold whatever node I take. However the majority of the time, the rest of my team is out doing whatever.

Then you guessed it....INC the big "L". Now will the loss is in progress, I am constantly getting people telling me we lost because I am being useless guarding x node by myself instead of out there doing idk wtf.

So my question would be.... Does anyone else feel guilty when a loss is handed to you like this? Like maybe you are being the weaklink in the squad?

I know I am not, but they sure make me feel like I am.

[Eric]

No way in hell man! If you have not noticed yet, anytime there is a lose, there will be those people that need to blame it on something simply because i guess it makes them feel better about it. And as a multi boxer you are just the easy target of blame. Just suck it up and keep Qing.

[Wide]

My shaman group is in full green gear with merc shield/mace. My win ratio in EOTS is 90% and close to 70% in AB.

First: Your not supposed to stand still doing nothing (guarding). If your at a base and got no time to drink because they are running to you non-stop then it's fine, otherwise always be on the move.

EOTS: Your not supposed to guard anything, you run from one base to another - nuke whatever guard it. Cap -> Continue.
Some of your team mates will follow you since "it looks funny", tell in the /bg chat to stop following you, since you can cap bases alone. Most times people tell others to stop following you around and start to do something usefull instead (like guarding the bases you get).

Also, sometimes the other team is hunting you like a bit*h, if they do that announce it in the /bg chat and stand in the middle of the map (where the flag is). That way all your enemies is within a short range, which mean they want to help eachtoher getting you down - you dont need to dps, if you can stay alive by healing yourself, then do so - you just want to buy time. Try to get a healer there to heal you. Whats the point? Aslong they are attacking you, they are not guading bases and you normaly end up winning with 3+ bases this way :p

AB: Same as EOTS, but here it depends on your team mates more than EOTS. I normaly run around capping bases but ALWAYS run to BS if they announce inc (and always run to it from start). BS, LM, GM - thats the bases i normaly want! after that i run around capping bases, just to make the enemy run around to re-cap them back. If your team is also capping bases, then prepare for a 4-5 base win - its a 100% win.

[Mokoi]

100% of my losses would hvae been lost without me, and in many cases much sooner.

PuG nubs in BGs are selfish finger-pointing idiots

[Wide]

Agree with Mokoi,

Was playing in an AV the other day and ended up playing with a prepade from another server, we lost and they blamed me (i was depending our towers, since no one else was). They where ~30-35 in that premade and i was... 5, and still they blamed me for there loose.

They want to point fingers and its just easier to do at a multiboxer :p

[FtGeno]

Hell no! I was in eots last night on my ally mage and we were losing all night long and playing just as piss poor as humanly possible. One game we had a quad boxing shaman and the leader tries to throw the blame on his shoulders completely ignoring the fact that this guy held DR all by himself freaking one-shotting people (I whispered him my appreciation and support). I pointed out the guy held DR all by himself but they still try to use the wasting spots excuse. I just rolled my eyes and hung out with the shaman crew and watched in safety (the word had spread and horde wouldn't touch DR after a few tries) as we lost the three remaining nodes. I suspect all boxers get similar treatment despite them being the single most effective player due to the focus fire. Don't play for them play for yourself.

[pixelimp]

If i loose a BG it's because of the 3-5 fanboys following me all the time.
Mounted ofc, so they aren't doing anything.

[Notes]

You can't blame it on yourself when mage's of the other faction run around with scorpid stings from the hunter of your side who's shouting you fail. Or when a rogue (rouge in his own world, seems to fit best with a name like rougeDK or twinkrouge) takes 3 seconds to turn around because he can only key-board turn...

Blame it on the people who can't play :thumbsup: And yes there are loooaaaddsss of those.

[merujo]

dont even think about it tbh.

[Wide]

As a multiboxer your using a huge amount of macros, binds and whatever - already here you have more kills than most of your team.
PuGs fail alot and they want to blame it on somebody - multiboxing isnt popular and most dont understand how it works, so its easy to blame it on something you have no clue about :)

[aNiMaL]

Don't feel guilty,

Marilyn Manson didn't feel guilty for the high school shooting either :D

[butta]

Here's a typical chain of events in the case of a BG loss:

" helplessplayer1: why can't i get a win today??
randomscrub1: well, it doesn't help that we have one guy using four slots
helplessplayer1: what?
me: All of my toons have more kills, damage, flag captures, flag returns and HKs than you.
randomscrub1: gj farming kills in mid
me: ...
"

I then press shift+spacebar and /sigh at the guy who has 0 kill 7 deaths and calls me out for using multiple slots.

People need excuses that don't include themselves so when they lose they don't ask what they could have done (besides increase their hp from 6500) they just point their finger at whatever looks different from usual.
/end_semirant

[zanthor]

I haven't done anything but AB on my shaman team, but I'm 9 wins, 0 losses there... every time I've had close to losses I've been able to convince people to quit being awed by me and actually go play... the worst one I had 3 followers, putting us @ 7 players at the node I was at... I'd move, they'd follow, they would sometimes kill who i fought, but most often people died fast enough without them...

I've got a 5th shaman now and I've vowed not to play again til 70, but all said and done, I don't see the 5 boxer as the weak point. Especially in AB if they will work with you that leaves 2 for each node of a 5 cap, and you to roll defense between the nodes as a mobile gank squad...

[Nmagrig]

Guess your right FtGeno lol. I have a habit now of kinda shutting people up now lol. They rant and rant in a game then I go whenever your done we can begin playing. And that usually shuts them up :D

I just find it funny how many idiots there are in this game that cant see the forest through the trees lol.

[suprafro]

If your multiboxing in a BG and your team is losing your going to end up getting blammed for it, it may or may not be your fault (usually it wont be as 99% of people in BGs are terrible) but just expect people to rail you for it and move on. No big deal

[Tehtsuo]

Your standard terribad battleground pugger expects to win 100% of the time. In their strange little world, WoW is designed to let every player win every game. Therefore, when they lose, it immediately creates a paradox - this poor guy's brain just doesn't understand the idea that he could lose a battleground. Therefore, the brain immediately searches for some reason to explain the phenomenon. Afk players, players with poor gear, multiboxers, poor battleground queueing system, and faction racial abilities all get thrown in the mix. If you weren't there, it'd be one of the other aforementioned reasons that these children would choose to start spamming /bg with instead of playing the game happily.

I've come to this conclusion after playing for years - most people who play WoW don't understand that anybody loses in battlegrounds. Sounds stupid, but there it is.

[Littleburst]

Your standard terribad battleground pugger expects to win 100% of the time. In their strange little world, WoW is designed to let every player win every game. Therefore, when they lose, it immediately creates a paradox - this poor guy's brain just doesn't understand the idea that he could lose a battleground. Therefore, the brain immediately searches for some reason to explain the phenomenon. Afk players, players with poor gear, multiboxers, poor battleground queueing system, and faction racial abilities all get thrown in the mix. If you weren't there, it'd be one of the other aforementioned reasons that these children would choose to start spamming /bg with instead of playing the game happily.

I've come to this conclusion after playing for years - most people who play WoW don't understand that anybody loses in battlegrounds. Sounds stupid, but there it is.Lol!

Wise words, maybe a bit blown up though :P

[Nmagrig]

Its funny, after watching people trash multiboxers when I was single boxing.....I never really paid much attention. Now that I am the multiboxer I am like damn, some of these people had it rough with the MB hate.

Between the MB hate and the MB followers, I cant catch a break lol.

People think that since I am lvl 70 now with 5 shamans I should be wtf pwning peeps and they dont know this takes time :(

[Nmagrig]

Oh on a side note....maybe its just me. But has anyone noticed that the opposing teams are getting smarter when playing against a multiboxer? For me like in EoTs for example, depending on the gear of some people, they will float with me. If I shift to DR, they shift to DR. This is where you go well then your team goes behind them and takes a base right? Nope.

Or the other strat they use is staying away from me all together. If I am playing D, they just dont come to me. When I go O, nobody covers the base I was at. So in effect, the opposing side neutralizes me in a way.

[Razman]

Im learning BGs as a multiboxer and getting better. My real focus though is PvE. However, I feel no guilt at all if anyone wants to blame me for a loss. If someone gives me grief I respond with something like QQ more I like the taste of your tears If I bother at all. Bottom line for me is screw them why would I possibly care what some person thinks of my play style. Just because you play WoW doesnt mean your brilliant--if only brilliant players were allowed into BGs then there would be 5 games a day.Its also as said taken as a given that a 5 boxer is as good or even better than 5 seperate organised people. This is the main problem because we most definitely are not.

I go in, I dont slack. I defend, I take posts, I respond to Incs and try my best to help my team and try my hardest to win. If someone wants to give me grief because of that then- 'to hell with them' (Conan).

As a new MBer (70 atm) I am getting a feeling from these forums that a lot if not most of the MBers posting here are quietly ashamed of their MB status. Its like some throw back to being a second class citizen where only good folks (thats not you) are allowed into the BGs, allowed to world PvP. Its like youre apologising that you MB or something. Proud and Loud brassy and classy :-)

[Tizer]

i see both sides of the picture. a multiboxer in AB taking up 5 slots cant be everywhere at once. Yes you are pretty tough and able to take down big groups and defend a node on your own but at the same time its still hard to do it. People follow you around, but sometimes you cant really blame them, watching a boxer is fun. God knows how many people i get sitting on mounts watching me while i kill people, they dont help, they just tit around. Annoying. The only BGs i go into a lot are AV and Eots and in both of them, people are grateful for the quick 3 marks they get :) If i go into others, i feel like a bit of a bastard as i dont always win. Probably why i only have 50 AB marks and 10 WSG marks on my toons while others are maxed. Its wsg weekend for me, so i might give it a go with another multiboxer and see how it goes :)

[Nmagrig]

Razman I am not ashamed, its just sometimes you get those thoughts of maybe its me ect. When I first started in the 60 bgs, it definetly was me lol...But I have finetuned that stuff. I am proud to do what I do no mistaking that. If I could talk my wife into letting me Deca-box then life would be lovely lol.

The people following me around...yah that sucks pretty bad lol. And as for the guy above me about only having 10 wsg marks....Amen to that man lol. Thats my bane, my yang to my yen lol.

[Aethon]

You can't blame it on yourself when mage's of the other faction run around with scorpid stings from the hunter of your side who's shouting you fail. Or when a rogue (rouge in his own world, seems to fit best with a name like rougeDK or twinkrouge) takes 3 seconds to turn around because he can only key-board turn...

Blame it on the people who can't play :thumbsup: And yes there are loooaaaddsss of those.So, as someone who keyboard turns, what's a better way? Is there a macro to turn you 180?

[Kaynin]

Feeling guilty about losing?

Mmmmmmmh. *ponders*

I'll have to cross that bridge when I come to it I suppose. *nod*