Well today is the day.. I start getting limited!

[Zite83]

Yeah.. alright.. this rocks... can't wait to see what happens.. are words that will not be coming out of my mouth... Today Oct 1st Comcast is now limiting me to 250GBs a month.. Yeah sounds like alot.. but when I download that in a week.. well it sucks... I canceled my Giganews and other monlthly subscription, they asked why..

I stated..
(other)
I can no longer afford the use of you unlimited service while Comcast will only allow me 250GBs a month. I've been with your service for over two years now and have love the quality of your content that you have provided, but I'm afraid Ill have to say good bye for good.

By the way its not (porn) I don't pay for that.. So anyways the last time I have had limited internet bandwidth was... ohh thats right never.. What are back in the 56k dial up days again..? Is conjecstion so bad that you have to limit what we do.. when for years you just took in the money and didn't feel the need to upgrade your lines to cope with the explosion in popularity of the Internet.. or was the Internet just a fad..? Why are we behind a generation in bandwidth while Japan and other Asin countries are starting to roll out 20MBs lines to its consumers... Yet we still sit in the 1-12MBs range... and now are stating we can only use so much a month..!?! Once I can get Verizon or At&t out to fix my phone line to my house.. I will be getting rid of your crappy service.. My rant is over... :cursing:

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Ya know, this will only create more opportunity for the companies that do NOT limit bandwidth. That is, if the gummint doesn't step in and screw everything up the way they're screwing up the US economy.

[thinus]

Today Oct 1st Comcast is now limiting me to 250GBs a month.. Yeah sounds like alot.. but when I download that in a week.. well it sucks...

You download 250GB a week. What in gods name do you download?

[Bot]

Today Oct 1st Comcast is now limiting me to 250GBs a month.. Yeah sounds like alot.. but when I download that in a week.. well it sucks...

You download 250GB a week. What in gods name do you download?from the looks of his avatar i think lots and lots of lake water in mason jars

[Zub]

i live on 4GB a month, never had a problem, obviously i don't download as much i guess, but i have 4 wow accounts playing on that line, manage 3 websites and listen to internet radio/youtube every now and again.
Do you even watch the 250GB/week you download? i had a friend who used to download and stockpile thousands and thousands of songs, and that was a few years back. He never used to listen to any..

over-consumption maybe? 250GB is quite a big chunk.

[Tasty]

I download heaps, problem is I'm stuck on 25gb lol :( /wrists hopefully that will be changing soon.

[Bradster]

I have Comcast but have not received any such notice. I use torrents daily, can't say I could use that amount in a month however. But I’m on board with your thinking it's the principle of the thing.

Eight years ago I tried out Direct; it was internet satellite since cable internet didn’t make it out here until 2003. I didn’t have the DirectPC service long. They limited you to 250MB a DAY. Please wait while we download windows updates. Opps sorry out of band width! Enjoy under 56k speeds for the next24 hours. To top it off it was $75 monthly JUST for internet.

it does suck how far behind we are, if I could be shown the reasons why there are restrictions then perhaps i could get on board, but with the track record they are just trying to hold power by controlling. The FCC allready spanked them once. Now it will be the Medias turn with this

[Zite83]

wow disconnected 9 times so far with in 5 hours.. My room mate is getting pissed lol.. hes trying to do a Sunwell raid with his guild.. and im just trying to level...... X(

[Fleecy]

Being in New Zealand I have to download everything I watch. New Zealand broadcast TV is so far behind the US it is appalling! I have two DSL connections one is dedicated for WoW (and other online games) and the other is dedicated to downloads (TV, movies etc). Both accounts combined can exceed 350Gb per month.

My ISP is different in that once you exceed the allocated data allowance you have the option to continue at modem speeds (no thanks) or purchase additional data blocks, the largest down the block we can purchase at a time is 50Gb. While this effectively gives us unlimited downloads a full bandwidth we are paying through the teeth for it. Personally, I would rather pay then be bandwidth limited. Hence our extremely high Internet bills each month.

[mmcookies]

broadband penetration in US is like 22nd in the world

[Blackguarde]

People complaining about 250gb a month are clueless, just to be blunt.

You are complaining about something that will not effect anyone other than abusers.

[mmcookies]

People complaining about 250gb a month are clueless, just to be blunt.

You are complaining about something that will not effect anyone other than abusers.sigh...

[zanthor]

16Mbit/s is 2MB/second...

250GB/Month is 8.3GB/Day

You could possibly download 86GB a day if you totally saturated your 16Mbit cable... which is 10 two hour DVD's a day... uncompressed. Or 20 hours of DVD quality video per day...

If you can totally saturate a 16Mbit shared connection yourself... Lets say you dont have to have a job but do need 6 hours sleep a night, that means that in a month, you'll have 60 additional hours of video to watch before you have watched all of last months downloads...

None of this is porn, so you won't have to do laundry as often as if it was...

Just seems to me that your complaints are hollow and that you can't actually use the bandwidth you claim... Or you are downloading shit just to have it... which is what I used to do when I was in the warez biz... back in the early 90's when telnet was the internet... and people knew how to use pine to get their e-mail.

[Marious]

Wow thats a whole lot of Gigs of data. Cant say I download even half of that in a month.

Sorry man but I can't feel your pain, 250G is a whole lot I dont think I even download this in 2-4 months sometimes I don't download anything for like weeks at a time and at the end of the month is less than 4G of data, MP3's I download rarely now I just listen to Pandora Radio at work and at home great service imho, sure they play some of the songs over and over but what can I say I like the ones they replay most times and then you can say I dont like that song and bam they dont play it again.

I actually use to be like you many years ago, have had cable internet for shoot maybe 10 years now, first couple of years I use to download a lot of crap most of it is gone I been through a whole lot of hard drives, the usual crap wipe from windows, I killed the PC in one way and screwed up my hard drive.

Shoot with one being able to watch half the crap you use to have to download or record to your DVR online there really is not a whole lot of reason to download a lot of the stuff, you can now go to most big TV station website and watch the show you missed in the last 2 weeks or go to one of the thrillion different internet radio stations and listen to what ever you want.

[Bradster]

People complaining about 250gb a month are clueless, just to be blunt.
Please do elaborate, this should be good. :D

[Ughmahedhurtz]

People complaining about 250gb a month are clueless, just to be blunt.
Please do elaborate, this should be good. :D

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On my Verizon FiOS, I can almost cap my 15mbit plan at about 13.8mbits/s using a good mirror from FileFront.com. Let's do a little math here to get a feel for the amount involved.

13.8 mbits/sec ~= 1.87mBytes/sec
Which is about 103.5mBytes/minute.
Which is about 6.2gigaBytes/hour.
Which is about 149gigaBytes/day.
Which is about 4.5teraBytes/month.

The average cable modem subscriber can pull a reasonable 5mbits/sec from decent sites, maybe not during prime time but most of the time. We'll just fudge and say 5mbits/sec 24/7 for math purposes.
That's 37megaBytes/minute.
Or 2.2gigaBytes/hour.
Or 54gigaBytes/day.
Or 1.62teraBytes/month.

For DSL guys on the typical 1.5mbit plans, they'll get about 1.3mbits/sec under ideal conditions assuming their local lines aren't complete crap.
Which is about 187k/sec.
Or 11.25mBytes/minute.
Or 675mBytes/hour.
Or 16.2gigaBytes/day.
Or 486gigaBytes/month.

Now that's all assuming you're sitting at your download cap 24/7, which is obviously impractical unless you're backing up entire newsgroup servers once per week. So, with that in mind, let's take a more reasonable case. Let's say your computer spends about 8 hours per day downloading stuff while you're actually home and online. We'll assume for this example that you're downloading what you can queue up in whatever downloader you use and it will cap your bandwidth for about 8 hours. I know it's not very realistic, but bear with me.

For 15mb fiber, that'd be about 1.48teraBytes/month.
For cable, that'd be about 528gigaBytes/month.
For 1.5mb DSL, that'd be about 162gigaBytes/month.

Now, for another example, let's say you actually use your computer about 12 hours per day every day doing interwebz-intensive tasks (nerd). While using that, you actually manage to cap your bandwidth for about 2 hours of that. The rest is spent just doing normal email, websurfing and some gaming and web radio. That would effectively give you something like about 4 hours of bandwidth cap per day of real data transfer.

For fiber, that'd be about 744GB/month.
For cable, that'd be about 264GB/month.
For DSL, that'd be about 81GB/month.

Now, the range we can observe from relatively high-end casual use to max bandwidth/month is 81GB-4500GB/month. Where in that range do YOU fall? I'd be willing to bet that most everyone here could not provide a real answer to how much bandwidth you use per month.

[Blackguarde]

People complaining about 250gb a month are clueless, just to be blunt.
Please do elaborate, this should be good. :D



Just to put things into perspetive, this is what 250GBs is:

• Send 50 million emails (at 0.05 KB/email)
• Download 62,500 4 MB songs (at 4 MB/song)
• Download 125 standard-definition movies (at 2 GB/movie)
• Upload 25,000 hi-resolution digital photos (at 10 MB/photo)

Online games transfer a few kb's at a time (Did a 4 hour session of WoW and it used like 4 mbs...)

Seriously, aside from a few rare cases of legitimate use, stop downloading pirated crap.

[Zite83]

I have been paying $44.95 a month for unlimited use for about 4 years now. Now if they are stating that I'm only allowed so much a month that I can download.. then my bill should be changed to something abit cheaper.. or.. Allow me unlimited and I pay more/same. For me.. I don't live alone.. I live with two other people in my house hold who's lives revolve around the Internet. Some peope just use the Internet to check their email and check up on the latest news.. My house hold uses it 24/7 I've gotten many phone calls/email notices for exsessive bandwidth use from Insight (now Comcast)


All and all here is why I am putting up such a fuss about it.. Comcast states that this limit will only effect %1 of its customers.. Why go to all this trouble for %1 of its customers? Those being and I quote "People who use home Internet service to run a business) I'm sorry.. but have you ever tried to host a website on a cable line..? Once you get more than 8 people on your server.. The line just boggs down.. I know I ran www.minnietheminx.net on my home server for about two years.. Once the guild got to big.. I transfered it to a pay service.. What comcast is trying to do is put a stop or damper File Sharing... They tried limiting torrent traffic and got sued for that.. So instead lets just put a cap on our service so those "1%" can only share 250GB a month...

By the way.. my mason jar is filled with a strong long island ice tea :thumbsup: not lake water :P

[Blackguarde]

I have been paying $44.95 a month for unlimited use for about 4 years now. Now if they are stating that I'm only allowed so much a month that I can download.. then my bill should be changed to something abit cheaper.. or.. Allow me unlimited and I pay more/same. For me.. I don't live alone.. I live with two other people in my house hold who's lives revolve around the Internet. Some peope just use the Internet to check their email and check up on the latest news.. My house hold uses it 24/7 I've gotten many phone calls/email notices for exsessive bandwidth use from Insight (now Comcast)

Well im an employee, so I cant argue the cost with you (free). What I can tell you is that you are more than welcome to go to another company for cheaper, at the expense of a slower connection of course.



All and all here is why I am putting up such a fuss about it.. Comcast states that this limit will only effect %1 of its customers.. Why go to all this trouble for %1 of its customers? Those being and I quote "People who use home Internet service to run a business) I'm sorry.. but have you ever tried to host a website on a cable line..? Once you get more than 8 people on your server.. The line just boggs down.. I know I ran www.minnietheminx.net on my home server for about two years.. Once the guild got to big.. I transfered it to a pay service.. What comcast is trying to do is put a stop or damper File Sharing... They tried limiting torrent traffic and got sued for that.. So instead lets just put a cap on our service so those "1%" can only share 250GB a month...

By the way.. my mason jar is filled with a strong long island ice tea :thumbsup: not lake water :P

You still come off as "the sky is falling!" attitude. Unless you are in that 1% then what do you care exactly? What exactly about this whole scenerio can you not get over?

1% of millions of customers is quite a bit if you want to get down to numbers. That ONE guy living on a street consuming 1000gb a month in warez and porn is screwing over everyone else on his cable card/node.

Tell you what. Come back when you've actually managed to break 250gb without downloading stuff you are not suppose to and then we can talk.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

You still come off as "the sky is falling!" attitude. Unless you are in that 1% then what do you care exactly? What exactly about this whole scenerio can you not get over?

1% of millions of customers is quite a bit if you want to get down to numbers. That ONE guy living on a street consuming 1000gb a month in warez and porn is screwing over everyone else on his cable card/node.

Tell you what. Come back when you've actually managed to break 250gb without downloading stuff you are not suppose to and then we can talk.I think this is what pisses off most consumers with regards to the broadband companies. If you're so sure people are downloading pr0n and warez and shit, put your money where your mouth is: filter pr0n/warez/etc. traffic only and quit whining about the 1%. I mean, pr0n/warez traffic gone = problem 100% solved, AMIRITE? Now don't go saying you can't filter it because you can't tell which traffic is warez/pr0n and which is valid -- you just said you KNOW people are "downloading stuff you are not suppose to," so you can't have it both ways.

Of course, the way I see it, screw everybody. Let everyone make their choices and live with the consequences. As long as no monopoly abuses arise in certain markets, no harm no foul. True, unregulated/unstifled competition WILL fix any inequities.

Gawd, we could go on all week about why the broadband companies have made their own bed with the way they did the infrastructure upgrades as a capital venture, but most folks won't care about that. They'll just see themselves being punished for the wrongs of others.

[Tasty]

Yeah.. alright.. this rocks... can't wait to see what happens.. are words that will not be coming out of my mouth... Today Oct 1st Comcast is now limiting me to 250GBs a month.. Yeah sounds like alot.. but when I download that in a week.. well it sucks... I canceled my Giganews and other monlthly subscription, they asked why..

I stated..
(other)
I can no longer afford the use of you unlimited service while Comcast will only allow me 250GBs a month. I've been with your service for over two years now and have love the quality of your content that you have provided, but I'm afraid Ill have to say good bye for good.

By the way its not (porn) I don't pay for that.. So anyways the last time I have had limited internet bandwidth was... ohh thats right never.. What are back in the 56k dial up days again..? Is conjecstion so bad that you have to limit what we do.. when for years you just took in the money and didn't feel the need to upgrade your lines to cope with the explosion in popularity of the Internet.. or was the Internet just a fad..? Why are we behind a generation in bandwidth while Japan and other Asin countries are starting to roll out 20MBs lines to its consumers... Yet we still sit in the 1-12MBs range... and now are stating we can only use so much a month..!?! Once I can get Verizon or At&t out to fix my phone line to my house.. I will be getting rid of your crappy service.. My rant is over... :cursing:I used up 10gb of my 25gb plan on the first day of getting uncapped so I imagine it would be easy enough to use up 250gb.

[Zite83]

I guess to say I am putting up to much of an "OMG" Im just mad cause I can't suck the life out of my Internet connection like I've been doing for sooo many years... :P You just get use to a life style.. and I like my life style.. Maybe I could only download the stuff I really need :thumbsup: '

I would switch, but Verizon wants to charge me to reinstall my phone line to my house which got knocked down by a storm a year back.. and I just always say to them.. Want my business..? Then do it for free and you have a consumer for life.. But I guess my life's money isn't worth much to them...

[Bradster]

Something to think about, there’s normally 4-6 sharing a house around here (college kids). That could potentially be an issue. If it's just "1%" why limit it? Why not target out of that 1% the issues they have with those heavy torrent users, oh that's right they tried and found it wasn't their place to play god with the internet.

I'm not really concerned the least bit about the limit if I even have one, as I know I don't download enough to reach it. But you have to stop and think, what’s next? Why?“Because we don’t like it”. That’s control, necessary? I can’t answer that question because I do not see the effects of the changes other then the fact it’s a company principle being forced on to the consumer.That's the part i'm uncool with.

If it was said, "We had to do this for reasons a,b,c this would improve you service because of x,y,z" with some data, at least that would of looked better. But at this point we would know the real truth anyway giving recent history it was a given.

[ObesAU]

I am sorry but I can't help but laugh at this thread.

I am on the largest plan offered by my ISP in Australia (and its no longer even offered) and its 70aud (about 50usd) for 20gig on peak and 40g off peak a month. Alot of our plans don't have download limits, they have transfer (upload and download combined) limits.

The unlimited DSL at work costs us around 2grand (1600usd) a month.

Not to mention I am not sure how on earth you could find 250gb of legal and worthwhile things to download every month unless you are running a linux iso mirror (I refer you to "worthwhile") ...

That said fight the machine because eventually you'll end up like us poor suckers.

[Tasty]

I am sorry but I can't help but laugh at this thread.

I am on the largest plan offered by my ISP in Australia (and its no longer even offered) and its 70aud (about 50usd) for 20gig on peak and 40g off peak a month. Alot of our plans don't have download limits, they have transfer (upload and download combined) limits.

The unlimited DSL at work costs us around 2grand (1600usd) a month.

Not to mention I am not sure how on earth you could find 250gb of legal and worthwhile things to download every month unless you are running a linux iso mirror (I refer you to "worthwhile") ...

That said fight the machine because eventually you'll end up like us poor suckers. I'm moving to TPGs unlimited internet plan soon. $160ish a month but worth it IMO

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Heh, it does get amusing in a twisted sorta way at times. All things considered, I think most of us consumer types become combative when the "you don't need that much bandwidth" moralists start preaching to us. Who the hell are you (I use "you" generically here) to tell me how much I "need" or care what I use it for? Just stick to the basics of "we have a few folks who use enough bandwidth that it starts cutting too deeply into our profit margins," and leave it at that. Fix your business model and don't get preachy on me. It's just business, after all, RIGHT? :P

[thinus]

Heh, it does get amusing in a twisted sorta way at times. All things considered, I think most of us consumer types become combative when the "you don't need that much bandwidth" moralists start preaching to us. Who the hell are you (I use "you" generically here) to tell me how much I "need" or care what I use it for? Just stick to the basics of "we have a few folks who use enough bandwidth that it starts cutting too deeply into our profit margins," and leave it at that. Fix your business model and don't get preachy on me. It's just business, after all, RIGHT? :P

So justify why you need that much bandwidth a month, what is your legitimate need? The people complaining are the people downloading 100s of gigs of illegal data every month. What are you preaching, protect my right to download tons of illegal stuff I don't want to pay for and will probably not even get around to listening to or watching or whatever it is you do with all that crap you download.

[Tasty]

Heh, it does get amusing in a twisted sorta way at times. All things considered, I think most of us consumer types become combative when the "you don't need that much bandwidth" moralists start preaching to us. Who the hell are you (I use "you" generically here) to tell me how much I "need" or care what I use it for? Just stick to the basics of "we have a few folks who use enough bandwidth that it starts cutting too deeply into our profit margins," and leave it at that. Fix your business model and don't get preachy on me. It's just business, after all, RIGHT? :P

So justify why you need that much bandwidth a month, what is your legitimate need? The people complaining are the people downloading 100s of gigs of illegal data every month. What are you preaching, protect my right to download tons of illegal stuff I don't want to pay for and will probably not even get around to listening to or watching or whatever it is you do with all that crap you download.Pssh downloading illegal stuff is a legitimate need :P

[Blackguarde]

Dont know what to say, if you are exceeding your limit, buy a bigger plan (like a commercial plan).

Everyone has to play by the rules, including you (edit: and incudling me). You are not a a shining icon of representation. Get over it.

[Stabface]

So you use 250G a month, 8+G per day... for what?

Really, it's almost impossible that you're actually using that much bandwidth on legitimate "stuff".
Even if you're pirating, its like 1-2 DVD's per day... uncompressed. Seriously. Do you actually use everything you download ?
Get help for your bandwidth addiction!

[Zite83]

I thank everyone for their thoughts and opinions on the subject! Its help me move more toward a middle ground... I've been watching my bandwidth through my router daily.. and I've been sitting around around 2 - 3.5 GBs a day..
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Not bad.. that dosn't include any torrent traffic. So I take it watching TV shows all day can load up the numbers.. Anyways so my anger went down abit.. and I am some what normal now.. Well till today.. :P I got rid of alot of my unlimited services.. So I figure well I can't use my newsgroups anymore... So Ill just use Comcast.. they even limit me to 2GBs a month, so that way I don't have to worry about going over my bandwidth. Well it seems Comcast is discontinuing free newsgroup service starting, well, right now for new users. Existing customers will continue to be able to access the service until October 25th, after which, you're on your own.

The compete alert:
The Comcast Newsgroups service, powered by Giganews will be discontinued as of September 17th. Existing customers will continue to be able to access the service until October 25th. This decision is in alignment with other Internet Service Providers that have recently terminated their Newsgroups service due to the declining popularity of Newsgroups as customers chose other methods, such as RSS feeds and web browsing to access information. Now that boils my blood right there.. The whole reason I switch to giganews was because I was limited to 2GB by Comcast.. Now that I can't download unlimited from them with out being capped by Comcast I figure I just put up with the 2GB limit..(newsgroups are no longer just post and blogs the binaries sections contain lots of stuff to download movies/musics/games/software/porn all at insane speeds "1.5MBs not Mbs!" ) Nope not anymore.. When our cable service was Insight (had this service for 3 years) I only complained about a few disconnects here and there, I payed $34.99 a month for unlimited cable Internet and that also came with unlimited Newsgroups... Now I pay $10.00 more a month for alot less... Monday Verizon gets my call.. Sure I will get 1-6MBs connections, but whats the point of having the fastest service on the block when you will hit a wall at some point.. I also get a discount through Verizon I take it, as i work in their bankruptcy department.... huh... who would of known :P Sorry to throw fuel on the fire :whistling:

[sikerdebaard]

250 GB / week? Totally plausible.

10 GB for a standard 1080p Hi-def movie. 25 movies / week, gotta do something while leveling, right?

Besides, in my country its legal to download from an illegal source.

[Blackguarde]

I thank everyone for their thoughts and opinions on the subject! Its help me move more toward a middle ground... I've been watching my bandwidth through my router daily.. and I've been sitting around around 2 - 3.5 GBs a day..
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Not bad.. that dosn't include any torrent traffic. So I take it watching TV shows all day can load up the numbers.. Anyways so my anger went down abit.. and I am some what normal now.. Well till today.. :P I got rid of alot of my unlimited services.. So I figure well I can't use my newsgroups anymore... So Ill just use Comcast.. they even limit me to 2GBs a month, so that way I don't have to worry about going over my bandwidth. Well it seems Comcast is discontinuing free newsgroup service starting, well, right now for new users. Existing customers will continue to be able to access the service until October 25th, after which, you're on your own.

The compete alert:
The Comcast Newsgroups service, powered by Giganews will be discontinued as of September 17th. Existing customers will continue to be able to access the service until October 25th. This decision is in alignment with other Internet Service Providers that have recently terminated their Newsgroups service due to the declining popularity of Newsgroups as customers chose other methods, such as RSS feeds and web browsing to access information. Now that boils my blood right there.. The whole reason I switch to giganews was because I was limited to 2GB by Comcast.. Now that I can't download unlimited from them with out being capped by Comcast I figure I just put up with the 2GB limit..(newsgroups are no longer just post and blogs the binaries sections contain lots of stuff to download movies/musics/games/software/porn all at insane speeds "1.5MBs not Mbs!" ) Nope not anymore.. When our cable service was Insight (had this service for 3 years) I only complained about a few disconnects here and there, I payed $34.99 a month for unlimited cable Internet and that also came with unlimited Newsgroups... Now I pay $10.00 more a month for alot less... Monday Verizon gets my call.. Sure I will get 1-6MBs connections, but whats the point of having the fastest service on the block when you will hit a wall at some point.. I also get a discount through Verizon I take it, as i work in their bankruptcy department.... huh... who would of known :P Sorry to throw fuel on the fire :whistling:

So you are going to save yourself $10 a month ($120 a year) by paying installation/startup fees to move to another company?

[thinus]

250 GB / week? Totally plausible.

10 GB for a standard 1080p Hi-def movie. 25 movies / week, gotta do something while leveling, right?

Besides, in my country its legal to download from an illegal source.

I highly doubt that it is legal in your country to download illegal copyrighted material.

[Zub]

I highly doubt that it is legal in your country to download illegal copyrighted material.
legal or not legal, it's probably not appropriate

[Zseth]

So you are going to save yourself $10 a month ($120 a year) by paying installation/startup fees to move to another company?

Who is this guy and why is he on our forums?



He seems to be just another Comcast rep trying to defend an inferior service that has no desire nor inclination to improve.



I hate forum trolls for companies, frankly, if you don't stop trying to sell your wares on a forum dedicated to expressing views I feel an IP ban coming. Also, by stating what you have said and citing you are a comcast employee, and without clearly stating your views don't represent the company you are holding the company liable for everything you say. Frankly, I find Comcast's business practices loathing and am glad to be on an ISP not owned by them.



Also, he seems about as close to a multiboxer as I am to being a hippie.



Silence the fool.

[Physics101]

So you are going to save yourself $10 a month ($120 a year) by paying installation/startup fees to move to another company?

Hang on, your giving someone grief for saving 120 a month?! Oh and not all companies have startup fees.

[Blackguarde]

So you are going to save yourself $10 a month ($120 a year) by paying installation/startup fees to move to another company?

Who is this guy and why is he on our forums?



He seems to be just another Comcast rep trying to defend an inferior service that has no desire nor inclination to improve.



I hate forum trolls for companies, frankly, if you don't stop trying to sell your wares on a forum dedicated to expressing views I feel an IP ban coming. Also, by stating what you have said and citing you are a comcast employee, and without clearly stating your views don't represent the company you are holding the company liable for everything you say. Frankly, I find Comcast's business practices loathing and am glad to be on an ISP not owned by them.



Also, he seems about as close to a multiboxer as I am to being a hippie.



Silence the fool.

Heaven forbid an employee show loyalty to their company. Guess what? Ive had zero problems with my cable/internet/phone for the entire time Ive had Comcast as a customer and as an employee. Maybe I just get tired of you people trying to generalize my company as bad guys, when alot of the complaints in this thread are BASELESS WHINING. And "lol" at you pulling the "liability" card because Im voicing my opinion as a person, who just happens to work for Comcast.

Every complaint in this thread revolving around Comcast has been dispelled by simple logic and facts.

And then trying to claim I shouldn't be here, or even have an opinion on the matter, stating Im not even a multiboxer? An IP ban? Get over yourself.


Hang on, your giving someone grief for saving 120 a month?! Oh and not all companies have startup fees.

$120 for an entire year, to go through the hassle of exchanging services, possible start-up fees, a slower connection and all in name of 250gb limit a month. Im saying this as a person, not a company rep, that that is the most retarded thing ever.


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Edit: And for the record, the GB limit cap has ALWAYS been in place with Comcast, its just been made public. If you havent gotten a notice before Oct 1st about bandwidth consumption, you probably wont now either! rofl

[Physics101]

$120 for an entire year, to go through the hassle of exchanging services, possible start-up fees, a slower connection and all in name of 250gb limit a month. Im saying this as a person, not a company rep, that that is the most retarded thing ever.

What you just said is that you expect isps to give you problems when your getting signed up with them, that's actually kinda funny seeing how you work for one.

Gosh when I switched my new isp bent over backwards for me. I went from ATT dsl to timewarner cable roadrunner. All I had to do was stop by the RR office and pick up a modem, they activated everything else remotely. As for the hassle of returning the dsl box to ATT, they sent me a box to mail it back. Total time maybe two hours if you include all the post service surveys and crap ATT called me about. My time is well worth 60 dollars an hour in this case. (as for my actual savings, it was a bit less but my dsl service really really sucked but was cheap)

As for him downgrading to a slower connection even though he'd probably never hit the cap, well that's all about piece of mind. A lot of people don't like having to monitor their bandwidth, just like tons of people pay for unlimited cell phone minutes when they probably never hit their cap before. It's all about not wanting to have to police your time/bandwidth at all, and just not having to worry about it. So this caping existing before it was announced to customers doesn't mean diddly, out of sight out of mind. Now it's in mind and I'm pretty sure it bothers a lot of people that would never be able to hit it anyway.

Oh and as for a legitimate use of hitting 250gb a month, I've hit that before. I design images for many different lines of computers where I work, so pulling down 10-30 gig image on test machines at home to test new software, or new user policies, isn't uncommon. Telecommuting for me wouldn't be possible if the unlimited service I was paying for wasn't unlimited.

[Blackguarde]

Oh and as for a legitimate use of hitting 250gb a month, I've hit that before. I design images for many different lines of computers where I work, so pulling down 10-30 gig image on test machines at home to test new software, or new user policies, isn't uncommon. Telecommuting for me wouldn't be possible if the unlimited service I was paying for wasn't unlimited.

Then you are using a residential account for commercial use. That is not a legitimate use. Commercial accounts do not have limits.

As already stated, the limit has ALWAYS been place, its just been made public. You guys are fretting over something thats been there all along. Tin foil hats anyone?

edit: And before someone trys to pull the "why do commercial accounts get it better than us?" routine, use the same principals as someone buying a 1st class ticket for an airplane. You want the perks? You got to pay for them, this isnt something Comcast invented.

[Tehtsuo]

Oh and as for a legitimate use of hitting 250gb a month, I've hit that before. I design images for many different lines of computers where I work, so pulling down 10-30 gig image on test machines at home to test new software, or new user policies, isn't uncommon. Telecommuting for me wouldn't be possible if the unlimited service I was paying for wasn't unlimited.

Then you are using a residential account for commercial use. That is not a legitimate use. Commercial accounts do not have limits.

As already stated, the limit has ALWAYS been place, its just been made public. You guys are fretting over something thats been there all along. Tin foil hats anyone?

edit: And before someone trys to pull the "why do commercial accounts get it better than us?" routine, use the same principals as someone buying a 1st class ticket for an airplane. You want the perks? You got to pay for them, this isnt something Comcast invented.

Right or wrong, I wouldn't be interested in Comcast after reading your replies. Please peddle your wares elsewhere. I'll keep my unlimited unlimited internet service, thank you very much.

If you don't want disgruntled customers, don't give them reasons to be disgruntled. If you feel necessary to stand up for your company, at least put on your best PR voice. Don't argue with your customer, explain the situation to them and ask that they be reasonable - don't tell them their expectations are out of line.

Are you sure you don't work for a Comcast competitor?

[thinus]

If you don't want disgruntled customers, don't give them reasons to be disgruntled. If you feel necessary to stand up for your company, at least put on your best PR voice. Don't argue with your customer, explain the situation to them and ask that they be reasonable - don't tell them their expectations are out of line.

Expectations out of line = unreasonable
And now the OP is making a stink about it because he can't download 250GB of porn every week that he will never watch anyway.

What about the disgruntled customers on the same pipe as the OP whose traffic are affected by him flooding the line with his mass newsgroup downloads and p2p stealing? Don't you think all the other clients will benefit from better performance if the leeches who abuse the system 24/7 are removed or capped? Personally I think it is a good idea to try and piss the OP off as much as possible so he leaves your service and becomes some other ISPs nightmare.

[Tasty]

Don't offer plans you can't support

[Tehtsuo]

If you don't want disgruntled customers, don't give them reasons to be disgruntled. If you feel necessary to stand up for your company, at least put on your best PR voice. Don't argue with your customer, explain the situation to them and ask that they be reasonable - don't tell them their expectations are out of line.

Expectations out of line = unreasonable
And now the OP is making a stink about it because he can't download 250GB of porn every week that he will never watch anyway.

What about the disgruntled customers on the same pipe as the OP whose traffic are affected by him flooding the line with his mass newsgroup downloads and p2p stealing? Don't you think all the other clients will benefit from better performance if the leeches who abuse the system 24/7 are removed or capped? Personally I think it is a good idea to try and piss the OP off as much as possible so he leaves your service and becomes some other ISPs nightmare.

What's out of line about "Unlimited". If I was selling cars with 100k warranty, and then decided a year later I couldn't afford to support a 100k warranty so changed it to a 20k warranty, there would be words exchanged.

Don't advertise oranges if you're selling apples.

[Blackguarde]

Done with this thread.

Dont bother conveincing these people, they obviously cant see the forrest for the trees.

The ignorance is just to deep to wade through anymore.

:)

[Tasty]

The ignorance is just to deep to wade through anymore.

I'm so deeply hurt. I'm ignorant cause I don't agree with your point of view eh?

[thinus]

What's out of line about "Unlimited". If I was selling cars with 100k warranty, and then decided a year later I couldn't afford to support a 100k warranty so changed it to a 20k warranty, there would be words exchanged.

Don't advertise oranges if you're selling apples.

That's a pretty bad analogy incredibly skewed to suit your point of view. An ISP provides a service. It depends on the exact terminology used but I think most ISPs provide their service packages in such a way that it is only valid for the amount of time you subscribe to the package. If you have a fixed subscription for 1 year then that package should be valid for you for 1 year. If you are on a month to month rolling plan then that service is valid for one month. You do not have a magical lifetime subscription.

If I was running an ISP I would be more than happy to get rid of the top 1%- 2% bandwidth users on the residential plans especially if your residential bandwidth usage during residential peak times exceeds bandwidth usage during your commercial peak times. Cutting the bad apples benefits the majority of your clients.

Here is another analogy for you:
There is a bridge with 8 lanes, 4 one way and 4 the other way. Every piece of information you request is transported by a courier on a motorcycle across the bridge. The bridge supplies information to 10 customers and easily handles the load. Suddenly one of the customers starts sending back to back buses across the bridge 24/7 effectively using 2 lanes all by himself. So what are my options? Build a bigger bridge. That cost needs to be passed on to someone. If I pass it on to the single user that abuses the system I will take criticism for my pricing structures yet I do not have enough high volume users to justify the cost of a bigger bridge and be able to pass it on to those users only. So what if I make a bigger bridge and pass the cost on to all my users? Well, I won't be competitive in the market anymore and it hardly seems fair to pass the cost on to my favorite customers with low usage who I may very likely lose. So what about a limitation on the amount of traffic so I can maybe get those high volume users to leave for another service while not getting much negative publicity in turn? Hmmm, sounds like a plan.

[Tasty]

What's out of line about "Unlimited". If I was selling cars with 100k warranty, and then decided a year later I couldn't afford to support a 100k warranty so changed it to a 20k warranty, there would be words exchanged.

Don't advertise oranges if you're selling apples.

That's a pretty bad analogy incredibly skewed to suit your point of view. An ISP provides a service. It depends on the exact terminology used but I think most ISPs provide their service packages in such a way that it is only valid for the amount of time you subscribe to the package. If you have a fixed subscription for 1 year then that package should be valid for you for 1 year. If you are on a month to month rolling plan then that service is valid for one month. You do not have a magical lifetime subscription.

If I was running an ISP I would be more than happy to get rid of the top 1%- 2% bandwidth users on the residential plans especially if your residential bandwidth usage during residential peak times exceeds bandwidth usage during your commercial peak times. Cutting the bad apples benefits the majority of your clients.

Here is another analogy for you:
There is a bridge with 8 lanes, 4 one way and 4 the other way. Every piece of information you request is transported by a courier on a motorcycle across the bridge. The bridge supplies information to 10 customers and easily handles the load. Suddenly one of the customers starts sending back to back buses across the bridge 24/7 effectively using 2 lanes all by himself. So what are my options? Build a bigger bridge. That cost needs to be passed on to someone. If I pass it on to the single user that abuses the system I will take criticism for my pricing structures yet I do not have enough high volume users to justify the cost of a bigger bridge and be able to pass it on to those users only. So what if I make a bigger bridge and pass the cost on to all my users? Well, I won't be competitive in the market anymore and it hardly seems fair to pass the cost on to my favorite customers with low usage who I may very likely lose. So what about a limitation on the amount of traffic so I can maybe get those high volume users to leave for another service while not getting much negative publicity in turn? Hmmm, sounds like a plan.How are they abusing the system (in reference to the bridge) The bridge is available for everyone to use isn't it?

[thinus]

How are they abusing the system (in reference to the bridge) The bridge is available for everyone to use isn't it?

Yes, reasonable use. It works like that with any kind of resource. Initially it is offered unlimited with people being asked to be reasonable and to keep in mind that they are sharing the resource with a lot of other people. From a marketing and business policy point of view this is win win. You do not need to police clients and clients are happy with their "unlimited" service. Then you grow to a point where you get more and more people leeching the resource for as much as they can and *all* users are affected by this. Birth of the pay/use plans and you introduce all the tools to police these plans but you still offer an unlimited resource access to retain the people willing to pay for it and to keep that market share. Eventually you have too many leeches and while they are only 1%-2% of your client base they consume 10%-15% of the resource and they don't actually pay 10%-15% of your total income. You end up in a situation where it is better to get rid of these people than to try hanging on to them.

It is not quite as simple as that as your activities are not confined to your ISPs network. As networks around the world grow, exchanges are upgraded and the telecommunications infrastructure is improved data speeds will continue to grow. So where downloading 250GB a week would probably have been impossible on a non-specialized residential connection 10 years ago now it is suddenly a reality and ISPs are faced with network capacity problems.

Your only alternative as an ISP is to place a cap on the the speed of unlimited accounts which introduces its own set of headaches I suppose.

[valkry]

People complaining about 250gb a month are clueless, just to be blunt.
Please do elaborate, this should be good. :D


Internet in Australia is way shitter than most countries, stop complaining. Anyone in the US need not complain about their internet, ours doesn't even compare to yours.

And don't get me started on latency in wow...

[valkry]

What's out of line about "Unlimited". If I was selling cars with 100k warranty, and then decided a year later I couldn't afford to support a 100k warranty so changed it to a 20k warranty, there would be words exchanged.

Don't advertise oranges if you're selling apples.

That's a pretty bad analogy incredibly skewed to suit your point of view. An ISP provides a service. It depends on the exact terminology used but I think most ISPs provide their service packages in such a way that it is only valid for the amount of time you subscribe to the package. If you have a fixed subscription for 1 year then that package should be valid for you for 1 year. If you are on a month to month rolling plan then that service is valid for one month. You do not have a magical lifetime subscription.

If I was running an ISP I would be more than happy to get rid of the top 1%- 2% bandwidth users on the residential plans especially if your residential bandwidth usage during residential peak times exceeds bandwidth usage during your commercial peak times. Cutting the bad apples benefits the majority of your clients.

Here is another analogy for you:
There is a bridge with 8 lanes, 4 one way and 4 the other way. Every piece of information you request is transported by a courier on a motorcycle across the bridge. The bridge supplies information to 10 customers and easily handles the load. Suddenly one of the customers starts sending back to back buses across the bridge 24/7 effectively using 2 lanes all by himself. So what are my options? Build a bigger bridge. That cost needs to be passed on to someone. If I pass it on to the single user that abuses the system I will take criticism for my pricing structures yet I do not have enough high volume users to justify the cost of a bigger bridge and be able to pass it on to those users only. So what if I make a bigger bridge and pass the cost on to all my users? Well, I won't be competitive in the market anymore and it hardly seems fair to pass the cost on to my favorite customers with low usage who I may very likely lose. So what about a limitation on the amount of traffic so I can maybe get those high volume users to leave for another service while not getting much negative publicity in turn? Hmmm, sounds like a plan.
The point is though, that originally there had been a limit put on that bridge, and the guy with the buses was under it, now you are restricting the limit even more by going back on the original deal.

[Tasty]

What's out of line about "Unlimited". If I was selling cars with 100k warranty, and then decided a year later I couldn't afford to support a 100k warranty so changed it to a 20k warranty, there would be words exchanged.

Don't advertise oranges if you're selling apples.

That's a pretty bad analogy incredibly skewed to suit your point of view. An ISP provides a service. It depends on the exact terminology used but I think most ISPs provide their service packages in such a way that it is only valid for the amount of time you subscribe to the package. If you have a fixed subscription for 1 year then that package should be valid for you for 1 year. If you are on a month to month rolling plan then that service is valid for one month. You do not have a magical lifetime subscription.

If I was running an ISP I would be more than happy to get rid of the top 1%- 2% bandwidth users on the residential plans especially if your residential bandwidth usage during residential peak times exceeds bandwidth usage during your commercial peak times. Cutting the bad apples benefits the majority of your clients.

Here is another analogy for you:
There is a bridge with 8 lanes, 4 one way and 4 the other way. Every piece of information you request is transported by a courier on a motorcycle across the bridge. The bridge supplies information to 10 customers and easily handles the load. Suddenly one of the customers starts sending back to back buses across the bridge 24/7 effectively using 2 lanes all by himself. So what are my options? Build a bigger bridge. That cost needs to be passed on to someone. If I pass it on to the single user that abuses the system I will take criticism for my pricing structures yet I do not have enough high volume users to justify the cost of a bigger bridge and be able to pass it on to those users only. So what if I make a bigger bridge and pass the cost on to all my users? Well, I won't be competitive in the market anymore and it hardly seems fair to pass the cost on to my favorite customers with low usage who I may very likely lose. So what about a limitation on the amount of traffic so I can maybe get those high volume users to leave for another service while not getting much negative publicity in turn? Hmmm, sounds like a plan.
The point is though, that originally there had been a limit put on that bridge, and the guy with the buses was under it, now you are restricting the limit even more by going back on the original deal.Depends how long the deal was set for as well though. If it was for 24 months and they change it 2 months in thats pretty shabby but if you hit 25 months and they decide to change it well bad luck

[valkry]

^Yup

As it is, I have no symphathy for the OP at all seeing as I would probably see a cold day in hell before I can get 250gb a month internet, let alone downgraded to that much.

[Tasty]

^Yup

As it is, I have no symphathy for the OP at all seeing as I would probably see a cold day in hell before I can get 250gb a month internet, let alone downgraded to that much.Yeah stupid telstra

[Griznah]

I'm paying ~$80/mnth (well, half that first 6mnths) for 25mbit/2mbit unlimited. Sad part is, there's people that can get 100/100 for $100/mnth

[Gomotron]

The point is though, that originally there had been a limit put on that bridge, and the guy with the buses was under it, now you are restricting the limit even more by going back on the original deal.It's that kind of attitude that has lead to a number of different abuses on, say, Wall Street, although it's entirely applicable in many other situations. The deregulation of 1999 that allowed banks to leverage capital in risky ways was taken as de rigeur with the consequences now glaringly obvious.

I guess companies will now always have to assume their customers will abuse whatever privileges they are allowed, and act accordingly.

And for what it's worth, I was recently hit with this type of cap with my 3G EVDO modem from Verizon. They used to have no cap for monthly data usage and they switched it to a low usage and high usage plan, getting rid of any type of unlimited plan. I unfortunately only found this out after receiving my first bill (after my account had been set automatically to a low usage plan) and I ended getting stuck with a $400 bill (their low usage plan is something paltry like 250 MB a month, and the high limit plan is a more reasonable 5 GB a month). I was so angry that I nearly cancelled my plan completely, but I talked to a CSR for Verizon who changed my plan and made it retroactive to the current month (couldn't do anything for the month that was already billed, but as I was already over limit for the current month, it saved me money anyways).

This provided me the impetus to have a cable modem put into my office, as I did not want to have to worry about data limits. I don't download much but I'll sometimes patch WoW on the notebook computer at work, or download software patches that can be sizeable.

[Tehtsuo]

I guess companies will now always have to assume their customers will abuse whatever privileges they are allowed, and act accordingly.

"Abuse" or "Use"

Who decides that someone downloading 500gb in a month is abusing? For that matter, would it still be considered abuse a year from now? For that matter, with 25mb and 100mb lines becoming more prevalent, what do ISPs expect to be seeing? I'm sure they're hoping people will pay for a 100mb line and use it to download 5gb/month, but that's really not going to be the norm even on a 5mb line like mine.

Also, please keep legal/illegal out of the picture when you argue with me. People downloading truckloads of illegal content should be receiving a completely different letter in the mail rather than a "You're downloading too much" notice. I know a lot of gut instinct is to say "Stop downloading pr0n, pervert" but it sounds to me just like average forum troll saying "They're just levelling those characters to sell them on Ebay."

[aboron]

I'm sure most of the issues could be solved economically by just charging from a new "higher" service level where the old one theoretically was and charging an amount that makes is financially viable to have those 1% on it. Forcing out 1% of your customers can't be good word of mouth advertising, esp. if those power users probably like to brag to all their friends when their service is superior.


Personally I don't currently run any commercial services at home, nor do I use a particularly large amount of bandwidth as you can see here from my router: http://mrtg.ggxtech.net/snat.html ('http://mrtg.ggxtech.net/snat.html') (about 8k/sec continuous average).
But I am willing to pay for the commercial service on the off chance that static IPs and unlimited/unblocked connections might be useful to me at some time. I'd much rather have an SLA than a marketing promise any day.

[Tehtsuo]

I can't say I'm happy about the idea of charging a new price for a "higher" service level for something I'm paying a reasonable price for now, but that's just cause I'm a consumer looking for a golden goose that I can buy with a wooden nickel.

I believe the underlying problem is that companies are still using an archaic payment system where they try to "tie down" their customers with 1 and 2 year contracts. When you start doing that you lose the possibility of reducing your service level without an outcry. If customers have nothing forcing them to stay with a service provider, you can change your service as you please. It's the same thing with Cellular providers, and has resulted in a decent amount of regulation, specifically over the early-termination charges they like to try to enforce even when they try to rake consumers over the coals with plan changes.

[Bradster]

Every complaint in this thread revolving around Comcast has been dispelled by simple logic and facts by me. I like to hear myself talk. I may not listen nor care that others may not agree with my own opinion but they are foolish. For my word is law and that’s all that matters. Curse you all I’m running out of this thread for you cannot understand my superior intellect on how you all are fools! You MUST agree with me damnit! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:



I'm so deeply hurt. I'm ignorant cause I don't agree with your point of view eh?Fixed 8o

[Tasty]

Every complaint in this thread revolving around Comcast has been dispelled by simple logic and facts by me. I like to hear myself talk. I may not listen nor care that others may not agree with my own opinion but they are foolish. For my word is law and that’s all that matters. Curse you all I’m running out of this thread for you cannot understand my superior intellect on how you all are fools! You MUST agree with me damnit! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:



I'm so deeply hurt. I'm ignorant cause I don't agree with your point of view eh?Fixed 8oI usually don't laugh out loud but I'm the only one in the room atm... made my day hehe :D

[Bradster]

Every complaint in this thread revolving around Comcast has been dispelled by simple logic and facts by me. I like to hear myself talk. I may not listen nor care that others may not agree with my own opinion but they are foolish. For my word is law and that’s all that matters. Curse you all I’m running out of this thread for you cannot understand my superior intellect on how you all are fools! You MUST agree with me damnit! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:



I'm so deeply hurt. I'm ignorant cause I don't agree with your point of view eh?Fixed 8oI usually don't laugh out loud but I'm the only one in the room atm... made my day hehe :DXD I have my momments hehe

[Blackguarde]

Every complaint in this thread revolving around Comcast has been dispelled by simple logic and facts by me. I like to hear myself talk. I may not listen nor care that others may not agree with my own opinion but they are foolish. For my word is law and that’s all that matters. Curse you all I’m running out of this thread for you cannot understand my superior intellect on how you all are fools! You MUST agree with me damnit! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:



I'm so deeply hurt. I'm ignorant cause I don't agree with your point of view eh?Fixed 8o

At first I was going to respond with a witty retort... then realized the following picture was the person insulting me and it kind of lost its thunder at that point.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u171/bradster__/me1.jpg

[Bradster]

In before Skuggomann's photoshop :D

[Zite83]

OMG what did I start?! Ehhh I'm still switching over to Verizon.. but I have come to terms with myself... The first step to recovery is to admit I'm an Internet Junkie... My habbitts include, but not limited to... Downloading useless stuff for no reason.. downloading stuff I don't need, downloading stuff that I may need later but will never use, and uploading all that stuff to other people who need to download it for the same reason...

My names Zite and I'm an Internet Junkie ;(

[Bradster]

OMG what did I start?! You stated your opinion…. Over the internet!

On a good note it’s gotten better, Blackguard and I made up, he clearly can’t be mad after observing my picture. I may not swing that way but I am flattered. Who am I to pry at this point. It was just a game anyway for the lol factor. So at least we got some entertainment value out of the thread.

[thinus]

OMG what did I start?! You stated your opinion…. Over the internet!

On a good note it’s gotten better, Blackguard and I made up, he clearly can’t be mad after observing my picture. I may not swing that way but I am flattered. Who am I to pry at this point. It was just a game anyway for the lol factor. So at least we got some entertainment value out of the thread.

So you were just trolling? Well done, have a cookie.

Maybe someone will be merciful and lock this thread.

[Qlimax]

Done with this thread.

Dont bother conveincing these people, they obviously cant see the forrest for the trees.

The ignorance is just to deep to wade through anymore.

:)Sorry to be late to post, but looks like someone is doing damage control now. You should really respect your customers and potential customers more if you have any plan to continue being successful. Youre not proving anything other than verbally retiliating on an internet forum where I'd say (hasty generalization) 40% of the people here do use the full potential of the internet, the only result of your comments is going to be disgust with your company, youre not winning anyone over, so if I were your boss, I would tell you to hush! unless he already has ^.

EDIT: Why are you flooding your argument with Ad Hominem (abusive) fallacies? Youre making your argument even more unsound, if possible given its invalidity.

[Blackguarde]

Done with this thread.

Dont bother conveincing these people, they obviously cant see the forrest for the trees.

The ignorance is just to deep to wade through anymore.

:)Sorry to be late to post, but looks like someone is doing damage control now. You should really respect your customers and potential customers more if you have any plan to continue being successful. Youre not proving anything other than verbally retiliating on an internet forum where I'd say (hasty generalization) 40% of the people here do use the full potential of the internet, the only result of your comments is going to be disgust with your company, youre not winning anyone over, so if I were your boss, I would tell you to hush! unless he already has ^.

EDIT: Why are you flooding your argument with Ad Hominem (abusive) fallacies? Youre making your argument even more unsound, if possible given its invalidity.

Do you feel better now?

Last time I checked, Im not on the clock getting paid, so Ill say whatever I want in regards to Comcast. Get over it. I could seriously give two craps if some of you like the company I work for or not. I do technical work, Im not in marketing or PR.

With that being said, it wouldnt matter if I did NOT work for Comcast, if I defended it from a customer standpoint you will still have the same people whining. As stated before these goobers are stuck in some sort of "rage against the machine" high school thing. And they always will be. They will always find something to complain about in the world of commercial products.

[Qlimax]

Do you feel better now?

Last time I checked, Im not on the clock getting paid, so Ill say whatever I want in regards to Comcast. Get over it. I could seriously give two craps if some of you like the company I work for or not. I do technical work, Im not in marketing or PR.

With that being said, it wouldnt matter if I did NOT work for Comcast, if I defended it from a customer standpoint you will still have the same people whining. As stated before these goobers are stuck in some sort of "rage against the machine" high school thing. And they always will be. They will always find something to complain about in the world of commercial products.Easy now, I dont want to get into an internet fight with ya! Calm down, not everyone on here is out to provoke you. I'm just trying to point out that the OP's intention wasnt to persuade a comcast employee to raise the cap. His intention was to share his story with others, see if they dealt with the same thing and see how they resolved it, in hopes for NOT changing, but getting around or living with this limit. No need to provoke arguments, they just create stress, and evidently there are far greater things in this world that can do the same and which we have no control over.

[Blackguarde]

Sorry, Im just being blunt. Beleive me its nothing personal.

After years of being on the internet, trying to hold someones hand and walk them through something is pointless. Id rather be blunt and just say what I need to say.

[aboron]

If there's one rule I like to judge my own posts by is that nothing I write ever needs to be said to anyone else. If it's something i needed to say for myself, it's enough for me to just say it to myself. If I can think of even 1 reason not to post before I finish typing, then I just cancel it and move on.


(This is a short one and I haven't had enough coffee yet, so it's gonna slip past the filter ;) )

[Tasty]

If there's one rule I like to judge my own posts by is that nothing I write ever needs to be said to anyone else. If it's something i needed to say for myself, it's enough for me to just say it to myself. If I can think of even 1 reason not to post before I finish typing, then I just cancel it and move on.


(This is a short one and I haven't had enough coffee yet, so it's gonna slip past the filter ;) )I type up heaps of posts then just hit cancel... for different reasons I think but still.